amazing now just need to buy a range rover.

Free 7 Year with Ferrari. Cold.

and therein lies the dilemma and source of frustration for many owners. Land Rover refuse to give their diagnostic software to independent garages to protect their outrageously extortionist practice. This means you are servicing independently at some risk. In fact, because of this your dashboard continues to display the message 'Needs Service' after an independent unrecognised service. I think this protectionist practice is outrageous and I'm surprised it is legal in the UK

Putting aside your subjective view on aesthetics just for the moment, I don't suppose anyone would pay several thousand pounds on a vehicle just for a badge.

You can get these from the parts department for just a few quid, for pretty much any marque. :man:

To add to my own list, since then have also experienced:

- crackling noise when phone connected via bluetooth
- rear view camera permanently fogged up
- tailgate close button no longer works
- Range Rover lettering on bonnet has lost all its chrome

The Range Rover Evoque is the biggest loads of carp I've ever had the misfortune to own and the after-sales service is shameful.

Good deal .
I never use range Rover for anything thats gone on my Range Rover as they charge over £200 an hour labour plus VAT.
I had a BECM that needed resetting. Range Rover quoted £1000 to replace it. I got it done for £60 .
Just had rear air suspension replaced. range Rover quote £1400 . I got it done for £490.

Im in France right now and I had water poring out of the water pump. Unfortunately I wasnt given a choice by RAC whom took it to Range Rover. RAC called me as Range Rover couldnt diagnose the problem despite the fact that you put coolant in one end and it **** out the Water pump .

It has taken Range Rover a week to replace the Water Pump and has just cost me 1400 euros for what should have been a 2 hour job. I just hope when I collect it they have at least valeted the car :disappointed:

You are a very wise person... I salute you. I can now take a dump from my window whilst hogging the outside lane with complete peace of mind.

Bearing in mind that this is one of our spare cars so low mileage, problems in the first year were:

- Repeatedly failing to start due to flat battery
- Several times losing power while travelling at 60mph (so car would rapidly slow to around 20mph on the dual carriageway!)
- Fuel leak in engine compartment
- Regularly warnings of Low Coolant Level
- Tail light leaked from day one - rear light always full of condensation
- Sat nav regularly crashed losing all memory locations and defaulting back to Belgium addresses(!)
- Squealing noise from rear nearside wheel

Range Rover service was poor and it took repeated attempts to get these rectified. "No-one else is having these problems", "You're not using it enough". Only later did it transpire on forums that these are fairly common problems with the Evoque.

I rarely drive it but when I do my pet annoyance is the ridiculous amount of time it takes for the rear view camera to kick in after putting it in reverse. Oh and the radio/TV reception is pants. As I said, worst new car I've ever owned and the combination of problems and poor service means I'll never buy a Range Rover again.

Interesting. 3 of the guys at work have one each for almost two years now and aside from a service it has been nowhere near a garage!

Thanks for that Kevin.

No need for you to be defensive.

Here is the correct link to the document you refer to: http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN05060.pdf

It's enshrined in the current EU 'Block Exemption' rules for the motor industry - the same ones which state that anyone who meets the manufacturer's standards can insist on becoming a service dealer (though not a sales dealer - manufacturers still have control over the appointment of sales outlets). In reality most non-franchised dealers buy a generic diagnostic kit from someone like Sun which may not give them all the data.

Here's a link to summary of a massive piece of legislation in just 10 pages for you doubters:

http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN05060.pdf

And here's a relevant piece from it:

"How will access to technical information for independent repairers be ensured
under the new legal framework?
Independent repairers are important because they increase choice for consumers and
keep the price of repairs competitive by put putting pressure on car manufacturers'
authorised repair networks. But for this to happen it is essential that they can get the
technical information necessary to do the repairs on increasingly sophisticated cars.
Withholding "technical information" will be dealt with directly under Treaty rules on
restrictive business practices (Article 101) since, as said previously, the manufacturers,
their spare parts and repair shops generally have a market share in excess of 30%. In
addition, Guidelines also being adopted contain detailed clarifications as to the notion
of technical information, cross-referring to Regulation 715/2007 on type approval of
certain cars and all subsequent implementing regulations. The new rules assure
access to technical information for models which are type-approved after 1 September
2009. By making a clear link with the 2007 car type-approval Regulation, the
Commission will ensure both consistency as regards access to technical information
for cars put in circulation before that date and allow the notion of technical information
to evolve in line with technical progress.
The Commission remains committed to vigorously enforce the rules on access to
technical information, as demonstrated in four cases brought in 2007 to ensure that
Daimler/Chrysler, Fiat, Toyota and General Motors disclose the necessary information
to independent repairers (see IP/07/1332)."

Whether you're pro or anti EU I'd still believe their rules in preference to what someone told you down the pub! To be a savvy consumer you need to start by understanding the legal framework within which your (service) supplier is operating.

OK? :smiley:

Link to the (EU law) please

Just collected car from land rover and they didn't have the decency to clean it after charging me more than €1400 for repairs

You just don't get it do you! It's a LEGAL requirement (EU law) that they share the diagnostic data - otherwise there's no way they would. FACT.

Rhinopaul
Hi. Would be interested to know how you got the BECM sorted for £60

Mini had it first.

Can't remember if they already ones in place for BMWs and this was a revision, or whether they were designed from scratch, but the ones you see now started then.

Surely they've been involved with service packs longer than a couple of years. The Mini TLC pack was launched around 2001.

An Automotive data firm, we supply the systems to the OEMs (including the ones mentioned in this thread). We were also hired by BMW to assess the service packs before they were launched in the UK, around 4 years ago.

It's all good, you just need to ignore some of the less helpful comments in these threads. It's the same as kids arguing which console they should buy, or which mobile phone is better. Some people have beliefs, and much like kids they won't change them, even when you try and prove something with facts.

Like our friend above who seems to be claiming a car assembled in India/China wouldn't require servicing as frequently, despite them using the same parts and source for the oil...

You need this when car is made here in uk. When there move it to India and china be made by professional people

Good to know! Out of interest when you say "we actually advised them..." - who are we? :wink:

Pfft, I just chop mine in when they need a service! You scum actually pay to have yours serviced?

BMW have an amazing range of service packs, they were one of the front runners to introduce good value packages a couple of years ago, and we actually advised them they were too cheap (they are/were priced centrally from Munich).

You clearly didn't read any of our comments :smirk:

I didn't call anything nonsense... Manufacturers do "share" diagnostics software (albeit modified) unlike Land Rover so it's not illegal or nonsense. They make money from licensing because they know there are ALWAYS going to be people who avoid them and use Independents - so why not dip their hand in theat pot too. In turn the Independent will "probably" charge a little more for using manufacturer spec diagnostics and cover their cost for licensing thereby closing the gap between manufacturer and those independents' servicing prices... therefore causing some people to think "I may aswell pay a little more and go to the dealer" and for those who don't think that they'll probably hike their licensing fees anually above inflation and so the gap closes to lure more people or cause the independent to back out from using their software and causing their customers to redistribute between other independents and the manufacturer!

Now THAT^^^ qualifies as being called nonsense :smiley:

+1 to this. I bought my girlfriend an Evoque (top of the range Dynamic) a couple of years ago, worst car I've ever bought - I've never had a new car where anything has gone wrong before but with the Range Rover it was one problem after another. I feel sorry for the OP as I wouldn't recommend this car to anyone - it was my first and last ever Range Rover.

Fair point, I was just pointing out the change that happened several years ago with regards to warranties.

Always worth going dealers for at least the first few years.

True, but in the event of a warranty claim the onus is then on you to prove that manufacturer specs were met. Don't expect any 'goodwill' help either and that could be worth a lot of money on a RR (maybe not on a Vauxhall).

No - he said it's nonsense that 'Range Rover' won't give their diagnostics data to independents - that would be illegal and it IS nonsense.

Read and understand the comment before calling it "nonsense". :stuck_out_tongue:

He's criticising Land Rover, not Independent garages... read and understand the comment before calling it "nonsense"

Completey untrue,local specialist to me ,Rovertune ,has bang up-to-date diagnostics.
Don't post nonsense like this.

PHEW! I got scared when I saw "BENEFITS - All this from £499" in the above photo... thought Govt are giving away the car and people on benefits just have to pay £499 for servicing :confused:

Have I stumbled onto poshukdeals by accident? Good deal for servicing especially if you have to go official to maintain any guarantees.

I love the look of these. The rear lights make it look like a decepticon from transformers.
great deal on servicing. I own 2 vauxhall & pay £20 per month each to get 3 years servicing and 1st mot.
2 major services and one minor as the first was done when I bought the cars.

Agreed, and the car don't look great either............

I wouldn't like the judge :wink:

There would have been a 'tourist tax' associated with it I would guess, who knows.

Oh dear such a lot of jealous p****s posting on this site .
Nice car hopefully all the doom n gloom comments won't come true and you will be happy with your car

Will servicing an evoque address the two standard faults on these cars;

1. Being able to look out of your left window so you would drive at 65 miles in the outside lane for hours when the other two lanes are empty.
2. Make use of the ashtray instead of flicking out cancerous ash and filthy dog ends

Why are people so selfish and inconsiderate?

Nobbled - or being a little economical with the truth? We all know people who won't let the facts get in the way of a good story. Probably an old banger - the Range Rover nameplate has been out there since 1970!

Water Pump on an Evoque is either 1.3h (petrol) or 2.9h Diesel, and 2.9 is the highest of any Range Rover, sounds like you got nobbled.
(that's current models obviously, not anything historic)

Yup, and the Pollen isn't generally done annually either, so I guess that makes this an even better deal.

Strange air and fuel filter are on that list, I would have thought they would need at least double that mileage before changing

Out of interest what do they service on these new cars? Arent the oil changes between much longer periods then cars of old?

Just trying to help should anyone need an opinion from an actual owner. Cheers

Good deal. However I cannot believe someone said that a Skoda Yeti gives you 'street cred'

You don't know how to tell a joke, do you?

that should help those tough mornings taking the kids to school

i cant decide if i prefer this to the black editon m6

Better off spending £499 on an old banger that is reliable to use while your Ranger Rover has broken down!

Cracking deal regardless of marque. However, not much of a fan of any vehicle posh spice has had a hand in designing.

I got the mrs an evoque and my opinions so far : looks wise best looking small 4x4 by far ( my opinion ) , price wise it is expensive when you add on the options ( pan roof a must if you dont go for the lux pack . Build qaulity however is poor. Panels are no where near assembled as well as any audi ive ever owned. Driver and owner of 3 audis over the years. Germans win that round hands down. We have already had 2 minor electrical faults. I dont have the confidence that i have with my audi on reliability. best colour option is orkney grey. This service pack offer was available when we purchased the car but we didnt opt for it. I regret that now. Ps anyone want advice on options etc drop me a pm. Cheers.

Made in Liverpool so hot from me

For those that have a Range Rover and want to keep the car for longer than the warranty and thinking of this deal just make sure its not a long life oil scheme - normally 2 years /20k like most manufactures are going. 20k servicing is only suitable for motorway miles and has a huge impact on engine and turbo life later on in life. All cars no matter what the manufactures trys to say need a oil change every 10k. Ask any mechanic that knows his stuff.

Need the air freshner to balance out the aroma of the s*** servicing prices.....

Skoda yeti, streetcred??! lol. you on crack bruv.

With a bill like that would need a heart shock machine not an air freshener!

Street cred?! I've just asked the 8 blokes in this room if they would rather an evoque or a skoda yeti... Unsurprisingly all 8 of them said evoque...

Except that the Skoda Yeti is taken off-road just as often, cost a fraction of the price, has a hell of a lot more street cred, and beats the Range Rover hands down for reliability.

I'm letting my range river go on Tuesday 2nd apetember, fantastic bargain and even more a fantastic car!!! Hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine

Never mind the servicing - how about a warranty extension? Range Rovers are amongst the most unreliable cars on the road - beats me why anybody in their right mind would buy anything so incredibly unreliable!

family member brought a new one a few months ago will check if she has this

10k from new. i would expect any car to be ok at that mileage

Would definitely increase value of 3 yr car with 2 years of servicing still valid Hot

I got 3 years servicing for £350 on my year old BMW 330d. We had it on my daughters Mini as well. Saved a fortune on both cars. Highly recommended .

Ignore all the blatant jealousy. I have 10k faultless miles on mine and it's a fantastic car. That's the reason they've been such a great success around the world. This one followed several Freelander 2s (basically the same platform) over 7 years and had only one unsheduled dealer visit, which cost me nothing. The latest JLR products are a massive improvement over the earlier ones. Dealers are too expensive, though they're not all poor.

People on here knocking the product don't even seem to know the company name and are probably tooling around in some high mileage old model they can't really afford to run.

voting hot cos it's my favourite car.

Not legal and not true. You speak through your lower orifice, sir! Your 'service light' comment suggests you're confusing them with BMW too.

What if i have 5 range rovers? can I get them all serviced once for £500?

... I wish i hadnt bought all these range rovers.

The car for the "look at me everybody" school run mum or Katie Price......

and therein lies the dilemma and source of frustration for many owners. Land Rover refuse to give their diagnostic software to independent garages to protect their outrageously extortionist practice. This means you are servicing independently at some risk. In fact, because of this your dashboard continues to display the message 'Needs Service' after an independent unrecognised service. I think this protectionist practice is outrageous and I'm surprised it is legal in the UK

I was going to get a Range Rover but then I read this joke >

What's the difference between a hedgehog and a Range Rover?

The Range Rover has all the pr**ks on the inside

Anyway I voted this hot as no need to be jealous :smiley:

I was quoted 28k at kia for the all singing all dancing model. I should add that I'm getting an 11% military discount which takes it down to that figure. I don't find it all that 'fugly' myself but each to their own!

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My top spec Kia Sport age (first edition diesel 4wd) was 21k. I'm pretty sure i can't get an evoque 4wd for that price. I'm off to look though.

Free 7 Year with Ferrari. Cold.

Following one yesterday and the opinion of myself and my passengers was why would someone buy such a Fugly vehicle just to get a Range Rover badge...........

You`ll be lucky to get a :smiley: from them never mind good service.

This is available for "free" (included by default in the deal) on new Evoques ordered at Stratstone Land Rover Newport (& presumably other Stratstone LR dealers).

amazing now just need to buy a range rover.