BBC Sport will broadcast live coverage of the US PGA Championship in August across TV, radio and online. The 2017 event, the year's final major, takes place from 10-13 August at the Quail Hollow Club in North Carolina. Live coverage begins on iPlayer, online and the red button, with the conclusion of each day's play shown on BBC Two
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mistameena
27 Jul 1714#1
Free ? You mean after we pay the licence fee every month which we don't actually have any choice over...
pmadden86
27 Jul 176#2
Cold - you need to pay your Chris Evans tax to watch this.
FloraNordin
27 Jul 174#4
BBC can feck off.
sJohnson23
28 Jul 173#20
Yeah, nobody here remembers any Sky commentators make inappropriate comments.
Or if they did it was just banter.
Latest comments (35)
mark6226
30 Jul 17#35
BBC coverage of golf is awful. The commentary these days borders on the farcical. Peter Alliss drones on continually about anything but golf. He's inculcated his other commentators with the same diatribe. Sky do a much better job of covering all sports.
collectorcol
30 Jul 17#34
Must of been moved then because it was originally in 'Deals' :wink:
FloraNordin
30 Jul 17#33
You can also watch it just with a dish.
cheekyangus
29 Jul 17#32
Good. Don't like Sky golf coverage, amazed people don't get mad that they get that and pay for it, it doesn't show in my opinion. I know some people much prefer it but I'm not one of them, and I know others who are the same. Everyone's taste is different though, so fair enough.
thomasleep
29 Jul 17#31
have some heat thanks for the heads up :smiley:
collectorcol
28 Jul 171#18
This is a deal site...
COLD!
thomasleep to collectorcol
29 Jul 17#30
and this the free section within that site, as most sport is now pay per view, this post has enough validity to be here as is proven by the heat.
mistameena
27 Jul 1714#1
Free ? You mean after we pay the licence fee every month which we don't actually have any choice over...
alexanderthenotsogreat to mistameena
28 Jul 17#11
Well, you do. Just don't use any televisual broadcast receiver equipment and read books / play videogames / play golf in real life
UKPokemonMaster to mistameena
29 Jul 17#28
Free-to-air, just not free to watch!
thomasleep to mistameena
29 Jul 17#29
Just curious how they actually get anyone for not paying for a license nowadays, as the old detector vans are redundant as nobody will fall for that anymore. I get ip address etc if you are online is easy to trace, but just watching a tv in particular via a communal aerial ??
dealer101
29 Jul 17#27
Great news. Voted hot.
darksideby182
29 Jul 17#26
Heat to combat although morons in here.
Also what kind of mug likes to see adverts.
sJohnson23
28 Jul 17#25
But Alliss simply is the voice of golf - a rich white man who doesn't relate to the modern world any more and is almost certainly doomed in the not too distant future. If it wasn't for Tiger Woods, golf would have faded into the obscurity of darts and bowls. Now that he's out of the picture, it can disappear happily from the mainstream.
EN1GMA
28 Jul 17#24
oh come on, the kitchen comment is just something and nothing. don't think its offensive and not to be taken literally.
TP2
28 Jul 171#23
It's impossible to please some people
JoeKerr12345
28 Jul 17#22
Hopefully the sporting bodies will realise that although the sky cash was good, if they want to grow the game they will have to make the sport available on terrestrial tv, Atleast more live coverage anyway.
KevClark1985
28 Jul 17#21
Well I think there is a difference in the scenario you are referring to...
I don't think (happy to be corrected if I am wrong) sky golf staff have ever made innapropriate comments on air?
The Keys/Gray incident (football, not golf), although obviously wrong, was thought to be off air, they never intentionally said it in open broadcast, and ultimately lost their jobs because of it. Peter Alliss does this in normal commentary and is still in a job with the BBC....
Once he commented on Garcia's other half's short skirt, and another time said when Zach Johnson was about to putt to win The Open, that if he holed it his wife would be thinking "if that goes in I can get a new kitchen". These are common comments in live broadcast, have no place in the sport, or life in general, and I don't think it should be allowed by the BBC, by allowing it, it becomes the norm. So back to my original point, these are archaic dinosaurs who should not be presenting or representing the sport, I would much prefer Sky coverage. It's not even remotely a contest in my opinion.
sJohnson23
28 Jul 173#20
Yeah, nobody here remembers any Sky commentators make inappropriate comments.
Or if they did it was just banter.
KevClark1985
28 Jul 171#19
Probably worth having a read of this to see a view from R&A, I think it makes some valid points:
With it all being on the red button, and potentially missed by casual viewers, I would predict that actual viewing figures will be lower on BBC than they were on Sky last year, thereby actually reaching less people (and less children who may take up the sport). Also in response to the view of children watching it, most of the coverage is late at night, so most kids might also miss it because of this - surely selling BBC a comprehensive highlights package would of been a better idea if this is your view?
I think you missed my point about these particular BBC presenters being dinosaurs, this was not having go at them for being old, it was for being archaic. Peter Alliss and Ken Brown are part of the old guard of golf, the archaic, stiff upper lip, unpolitically correct, and misogynist crowd. Peter Alliss has been criticised numerous times for making innappropriate/sexist comments - can't think of one time a sky golf commentator or presenter has done this? Personally I think parents should pay for sky to watch it, so their children don't have to hear this sort of thing and think its the norm in the sport.
KevClark1985
28 Jul 173#10
Terrible decision to give this to the BBC. Almost all of it is on the red button until stupid o'clock at night (about 1030pm Thurs/Fri and 1230am Sat/Sun), BBC presenters/commentators are terrible and/or dinosaurs (Peter & Ken - seriously...), even the argument about no adverts is irrelevant as this is a US tv feed so will be gaps in coverage (BBC usually put up the leaderboard instead of adverts).
Hate on sky all you want, but their coverage is superb with quality presenters and commentators, they dedicate channels to it, they show adverts which I actually like to see (its the only time you ever see golf adverts tbh). For 90% of golf fans, they will still need sky for other majors and/or PGA & European Tour golf, so are not saving any money. If you only watch the majors, I would rather it was on sky and just buy a weeks sport pass for Now TV. Would happily pay the equivalent of £2-3 a day to see it on sky than BBC, and I am sure many feel the same.
5lugger to KevClark1985
28 Jul 17#17
Not sure the US PGA will agree it is a terrible decision, though I suspect Sky felt terrible when US PGA decided to dispense with Sky.
Good to see major golf back on free to air, who know's one child might watch, and he, or she might end up with a golf career as a result.
As for liking adverts, turn on to Sky Sports Golf, when the BBC show 2 minutes of leaderboards ; )
BTW Butch Harmon is 73....
FatherTed
28 Jul 171#15
No Butch. Cold.
KevClark1985 to FatherTed
28 Jul 17#16
I sometimes fantasise about Butch being like a surrogate Grandfather to me, taking me out on the course and teaching me about golf, and life in general #PapaButch
ssc1
28 Jul 172#14
not a deal.
0762
28 Jul 17#13
Detest the BBC in general & much prefer Sky golf coverage with Butch, Beemer & the gang but this is better than nothing.
_b1ff
28 Jul 17#12
hot - was gonna buy a 1 week sports pass to watch it. saved me a tenner cheers!
v5535
28 Jul 17#9
Seems like the PGA are taking a swipe at R&A who sold rights to Sky ...
Graham1979
27 Jul 17#8
FREE? BUT I DON'T HAVE ONE OF THEIR LICENCES TO WATCH THE SKY NEWS ON TV THAT I OWN!
Pootled
27 Jul 172#7
Thanks yorxman.
Good to know I can watch the golf without having to pay sky sports subscription.
damonb1
27 Jul 172#6
Hot because you have to pay licence fee anyway and its nice to get full coverage of the only "sport" I care about anymore. Refuse to upgrade to sports channels on sky and my broadband is too slow for now tv to enjoy a weeks sports pass
pmadden86
27 Jul 176#2
Cold - you need to pay your Chris Evans tax to watch this.
FloraNordin to pmadden86
27 Jul 171#5
You forget the Claudia Winkeldoodie and the likes.
Opening post
The 2017 event, the year's final major, takes place from 10-13 August at the Quail Hollow Club in North Carolina.
Live coverage begins on iPlayer, online and the red button, with the conclusion of each day's play shown on BBC Two
Top comments
Or if they did it was just banter.
Latest comments (35)
COLD!
Also what kind of mug likes to see adverts.
I don't think (happy to be corrected if I am wrong) sky golf staff have ever made innapropriate comments on air?
The Keys/Gray incident (football, not golf), although obviously wrong, was thought to be off air, they never intentionally said it in open broadcast, and ultimately lost their jobs because of it. Peter Alliss does this in normal commentary and is still in a job with the BBC....
Once he commented on Garcia's other half's short skirt, and another time said when Zach Johnson was about to putt to win The Open, that if he holed it his wife would be thinking "if that goes in I can get a new kitchen". These are common comments in live broadcast, have no place in the sport, or life in general, and I don't think it should be allowed by the BBC, by allowing it, it becomes the norm. So back to my original point, these are archaic dinosaurs who should not be presenting or representing the sport, I would much prefer Sky coverage. It's not even remotely a contest in my opinion.
Or if they did it was just banter.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/18/us-pga-championship-bbc
With it all being on the red button, and potentially missed by casual viewers, I would predict that actual viewing figures will be lower on BBC than they were on Sky last year, thereby actually reaching less people (and less children who may take up the sport). Also in response to the view of children watching it, most of the coverage is late at night, so most kids might also miss it because of this - surely selling BBC a comprehensive highlights package would of been a better idea if this is your view?
I think you missed my point about these particular BBC presenters being dinosaurs, this was not having go at them for being old, it was for being archaic. Peter Alliss and Ken Brown are part of the old guard of golf, the archaic, stiff upper lip, unpolitically correct, and misogynist crowd. Peter Alliss has been criticised numerous times for making innappropriate/sexist comments - can't think of one time a sky golf commentator or presenter has done this? Personally I think parents should pay for sky to watch it, so their children don't have to hear this sort of thing and think its the norm in the sport.
Hate on sky all you want, but their coverage is superb with quality presenters and commentators, they dedicate channels to it, they show adverts which I actually like to see (its the only time you ever see golf adverts tbh). For 90% of golf fans, they will still need sky for other majors and/or PGA & European Tour golf, so are not saving any money. If you only watch the majors, I would rather it was on sky and just buy a weeks sport pass for Now TV. Would happily pay the equivalent of £2-3 a day to see it on sky than BBC, and I am sure many feel the same.
Good to see major golf back on free to air, who know's one child might watch, and he, or she might end up with a golf career as a result.
As for liking adverts, turn on to Sky Sports Golf, when the BBC show 2 minutes of leaderboards ; )
BTW Butch Harmon is 73....
Good to know I can watch the golf without having to pay sky sports subscription.