​Congratulations on your brain washing process, I see by your comments you have had a succesful treatment. With neanderthals like you still walking around, no wonder people doubt the theory of evolution.

I still don't get what you mean

I'm not going to use the gym for the next month

if I just maintain my usual membership, it's £9.99

if I "freeze" membership for that month, it's £5.99

currently rather than £5.99 it's free

if I just cancel & rejoin I'd have to repay the joining fee

More evidence of constructive Islamification in Britain.

You think they'll do the same in December for Christmas? That's usually the month I can't move from the sofa, let alone get down to the gym.

Strange policy for a gym that opens 24/7

My point is, why do the reduction in the first place?

I still don't get what you mean

I'm not going to use the gym for the next month

if I just maintain my usual membership, it's £9.99

if I "freeze" membership for that month, it's £5.99

currently rather than £5.99 it's free

if I just cancel & rejoin I'd have to repay the joining fee

Good to know, heat added. :smiley:

To be totally inclusive surely there should be an option for any member to freeze their subscription for any 1 month of the year. That way if you want/need it to be June no problem, if others choose another month not an issue, everyone wins.... apart from the gyms who count on limited attendance to ensure kit availability!!!

More evidence of constructive Islamification in Britain.

You want Britain to be about British. No Muslamic ray guns? LOOL!

It's a great deal I'll get to it, thanks for the information.

You think they'll do the same in December for Christmas? That's usually the month I can't move from the sofa, let alone get down to the gym.

I don't get idea why it's during ramadan it's a promotion when muslims are forbidden to go gym due to sexism issues.

​obviously you're upset because you own the country! I understand!

Lol what ?

We live in a capitalist society, makes perfect business sense.

I wonder if they will do the same deal for Easter or Christmas?

thanks a lot

lol

Not really a fair policy if your from another religious faith...
A bit like Subway removing pork products from some of their stores, it means the rest of us have to miss out too.

How? It's not just aimed at the Muslim community it's also beneficial to all those who wish not to attend this month or if they going on holiday or for whatever reason. Cmon use that big brain of yours!!

Don't you know? some HUK'ers don't really use their noggins much anymore. They just want a reason to be upset.

Why should they offer a whole month of reduced rates / free for only a couple days? Thats pretty dumb. Considering that most people are gorging themselves during easter/christmas and not fasting.

I'm all for it though if it means free / reduced rates for freezing membership.

Erm.. We have brains, we use them. We are obviously just expressing our thoughts based on the title of this thread (Ramadam). Let me just ask, do you think a gym in Saudi Arabia would allow 1 month freeze for Easter or Christmas, doubt it.

So using that brain of yours, you've concluded that you want a UK business to use Saudi as its benchmark for economic activity and business decisions?

they must have done it due to queries from the Muslim Clientele which is fair enough. To be fair, its the reason ive delayed signing up as I felt the month membership would be wasted as I wouldn't be able to use it. will be signing up hopefully after Ramadan.

thanks OP for posting!!

surprised no one has said they will be cancelling their membership or picketing pure gym for their stance :smirk:

Why can't people go to the gym during Ramadan? (srs)

think it's to do with fasting for over 18 hours per day, must get difficult to have a decent workout without fluids..

I think there has been a miscommunication here, I am merely providing a realistic example for comparison. This is not a debate of economic activity or business decisions, it's deeper, this is a debate of ethics and fairness. Do you honestly think by adopting religious excuses for offering deals is ethical? Or does it further segregate people by dividing opinions as it has done so in this thread. As someone mentioned above , it would be great to offer freeze for any month of the year to any religion or race free of charge, do you not agree?

I think there has been a miscommunication here, I am merely providing a realistic example for comparison. This is not a debate of economic activity or business decisions, it's deeper, this is a debate of ethics and fairness. Do you honestly think by adopting religious excuses for offering deals is ethical? Or does it further segregate people by dividing opinions as it has done so in this thread. As someone mentioned above , it would be great to offer freeze for any month of the year to any religion or race free of charge, do you not agree?

Hm I see. Wait does fasting apply to beverages as well as food?

It looks like this ramadam is going to caused a dingdong!:confused:

dont they usually count on people joining up during that period?

foods and water. its a month of all round increased dicipline of the self.

Wow, that sucks!

yes couldn't freeze it for lent or any other faiths! agree! they even wanted to move all kids exams from june for the same reason! so they have 3 a day in july to fit them in! thought we are a christian country.

My apologies if I misunderstood, or if my comment came across as unduly rude.

However, I think my point still stands. As you mention, you are providing an example as a "comparison", as a debate for "ethics and fairness" - to say that should a UK business really be offering this discount as a gesture of goodwill to its customers because Saudi would not do the same, is problematic on a number of levels:

1. On what basis do you know a Saudi business would not do the same? Because you haven't heard of it (it’s not particularly newsworthy stuff) or based on a preconception of what all Saudi people in all walks of life are like? That said, I won't preclude from the possibility that you may have lived there or know someone who has, and so you speak from experience, in which case that would be good to know.

2. What has Saudi go to do with this anyway? As per my original point, why should we use Saudi as a benchmark? If it’s a point of ethics and fairness, then it can be done independent of comparison - unless you bring in a comparison to argue that we should be better than that. But here it seems as though you're using Saudi as example to say that they would not do it, so why should we.

As for do I honestly think that “by adopting religious excuses for offering deals is ethical” – I don’t believe ethics comes into it. Case in point, Christmas, do we label retailers who think ‘Xmas is a time for giving gifts, therefore let me offer sales to entice people’ as being unethical? No, they are doing what businesses do, maximising revenue by taking advantage of societal trends. Furthermore, the gym here is not even “offering a deal” – they are merely taking a policy (being discounted membership fee for a month), and for a limited time increasing that discount to 100%. I wouldn’t class that as a deal, in the normal sense of the word.

As for your “any religion or race” point – the offer is to any religion or race, the gym is in no way limiting it to any particular group. To say they should do all year round, is like saying Xmas discounts should be offered to any religion or race all year round at their choosing, and not limited to / associated with the xmas period.

So, apologies for long reply, but I fail to see the validity of your point.

And finally, HUKD is rife with divided opinions. That is not in itself a bad thing, and nor does it lead to segragating people. Yes, I disagree with you, for the reasons stated above, but that doesn't mean I therefore label you as an "other", if anything I thank you for the stimulating discussion.

I usually find one question helps in debates of these kinds....

How would said faith/race/etc feel had they been the only one to be excluded from said offer?

Rather than the only faith/race/etc to be included.

Muslims are fasting from dawn till dusk that's no good or drink from 3am to 9.30pm. this is a fantastic gesture ignorant comments from a brainless minority aside.

why will you be fasting?

that's called gluttony.

with ignorant comments like these no wonder there's no community cohesion.

what a stupid question!

best comment of the thread.

I fully doubt the theory of evolution too mind you, as there's less proof for evolution, than there is again it?, etc, etc, etc. :-(

But that's just me anyway .....

And that's got nothing to do with Malabus's inappropriate comment either.

I agree entirely. Hare Krishna brother.

Good question, but not sure of relevance here? Although the trigger / timing of the discount may be due to "said faith", the actual discount is open to all faiths and no faiths. Bit like Xmas - sales are linked to a Christian celebration, but the discounts are not restricted to Christians only.

I hope you feel better and stop feeling so sick.

Yours faithfully - A Muslim HUKD'er :smiley:

I think someone is missing the point here. There is indeed some sort of unfairness and the suggestion of having one month of choice as "free freeze" would only be a fair practice.

I'd also like to point out something:
- Sales on Christmas: these are not religious at all, as materialistic elements are not part of the Christian religion for example.

- Brain washing comments and the likes: I personally do not agree. The opinions expressed have a lot of sense. Let's not forget that other religions also have fasting. For example, Christians have lent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lent), and I doubt they can go to the gym having eaten just one meal on specific days.

No opinion is to be discarded. Being fair and equal should be the main objective of every society. I respect you, you respect me. Simple.

Cheers :smiley:

How does any of that actually tangibly effect you?

This offer and even the schools thing benefits a portion of society and doesnt make the slightest difference to your life.

Seriously people complaining about something that has zero effect on them, how many commentors are member of puregym just out of curiosity.

It was relevant to the ongoing debate proceeding and following my post. Not the offer itself.

t seems PureGym must have a high number of Muslim clientele and they must have noticed a pattern in similar queries with regards to a break of a month in the membership. so they are tailoring their service to a particular clientele but also offering it to everyone else.

it probably affects a very small amount but that wont stop them jumping on the bandwagon.

Sorry, not sure I still see the link. The ongoing debate preceding and following your post was linked to the offer. The whole discussion here is around the offer, the specifics of it, reasons behind, effects of it etc.

I begin by 'liking' the final line of your comment - mutual respect is the way forward.

re Xmas, my point was not that Xmas sales are part of Christian tradition, just as in the same way that gym discounts are not part of the Islamic faith. Neither religion or its followers are demanding these discounts / sales.

The point was that the retailer is offering a discount at a specific time of the year due to a Christian religious festival (eventhough Christianity does not in any way request / demand it from them, it would be dubious to say that the December sales have nothing to do with it being Xmas) - there's two points here: 1) Reason / Cause, 2) Effect / Audience - 1) the reason for December sales / discounts is linked to it being Xmas, a Christian celebration, 2) The effect is that for that short period of time we all benefit from the discount. In this case, no one claims foul play, or unfairness.

Similarly, in this case, 1) the reason behind the gym discount may be Ramadhan, a muslim tradition; 2) The effect is that for that one month, we all benefit from the discount / free holiday period.

So, why is latter case unfair, but the former is fine?

I completely agree, this is Great Britain!!

No they are not analysing trends and patterns at all, they hired a marketing intern who had this great idea to offer a free freeze for Ramadan, and they all nodded like donuts.

it's not Ramadan it's peoples ignorance.

yes Great Britain not Nazi Germany!

you have evidence for this I take it?

Whether you agree or disagree your point doesn't make sense. There's nothing in the bible that commands you don't eat whilst the sun is in the sky for a month and by virtue, there is nothing in the bible that would make you going to the gym particularly difficult.

If anything them having to cram 3 exams into a day in July would be worse for them, surely...

They wouldn't cram them into one day.

Why can't people just vote for the deal? All this stupid arguing and "debating" is pointless. It's a nice gesture from a company - maybe they can do the same for other faiths in the future.

You said "they have 3 a day in July". OK then...

There is, it's called lent.

Of course, I was there : http://www.vccpa.org/uploads/6/1/4/9/61497653/3687792.jpg?340

Course you were mate :smirk:

It's obvious, like all the deals that have anything to do with islam/Muslims. Whether it's halal food, or Ramadan deals or this, Muslims/Islam equals people voting/commenting based not on the value of the deal but their prejudices.

I find it hilarious the people who constantly say this is a Christian country yet the people attending church has been decreasing every year.

I don't drink but I don't go around commenting or voting cold on alcohol deals. Does not affect me so why get bothered.

Yet you'll have people here, who aren't even members of pure gym yet because it has something to do with Muslims, they will stick their oar in.

So you think eating no meat but fish on a Friday and one Wednesday in month does the same to your body as not eating or drinking from sunrise to sunset?

Everyone's body is different

Oh I get it now, you rare a troll.