Fair point, but you're also doing your bit for the environment by not receiving any junkmail...

I voted hot but people need to remember this is a bit of a vicious circle....
Royal Mail get paid by the advertisers to post the leaflets.
If we all stop receiving them, the advertisers stop paying Royal Mail.
Royal Mail then put postage costs up to compensate.
We all pay more for sending the fewer and fewer letters we do send....

I used to just save up my junk mail and post it back to whomever sent me an envelope first.

Job done, Royal Mail get paid twice. :wink:

I get more addressed junk mail than unaddressed - barclaycard are the worse and must write to me once a fortnight offering cards even tho ive no barclays accounts ever

I voted hot but people need to remember this is a bit of a vicious circle....
Royal Mail get paid by the advertisers to post the leaflets.
If we all stop receiving them, the advertisers stop paying Royal Mail.
Royal Mail then put postage costs up to compensate.
We all pay more for sending the fewer and fewer letters we do send....

I get more addressed junk mail than unaddressed - barclaycard are the worse and must write to me once a fortnight offering cards even tho ive no barclays accounts ever

Heat added and Done
Thank you.

Just what I needed.. Heat

Not bad. :-)

Royal Mail are ridiculous, you have to use their mail service just to opt out of their junk mail.
It's 2016 I should be able to opt out online!

just pop it in the recycling bin

Cheers

I'm a postman we probably get more addressed junk mail now than the unaddressed. Virgin do it at least once a month a lot of the big companies do it now to get round the fact a lot of people don't want the junk mail

This relates to unaddressed mail only. If you need spam eradicated completely, never sign up-to anything online that uses your address. Always unsubscribe to mailing lists as well.

or email your name and address to us at: [email protected]
We will then send an opt-out form to your address, which you must sign and return. We do this for security reasons - to verify that those resident at the address have requested the ‘opt out’.

Every which way you look at this, you have to use some form of snail mail I am afraid.

Thanks OP for the info... Sick of the amount of junk I have to incinerate.... yes incinerate as the council do not make it easy for me to recycle paper or cardboard and I need the space in my black bin....

Cheers

Phill

Like frostbite xlll says collect all your junk mail,then send all the different mail to other companies in their paid envelopes,they soon get sick.

Not quite the same as Royal Mail junk mail, but I've noticed that since I've stuck a sticker on my letterbox saying No takeaway menus/Junk Mail etc, it's virtually stopped all that kind of junk door-to-door leafleting. Best £1.50 I've spent in a while.

LOL :smile:
Most junk mail is printed on recycled material nowadays.... :wink:

So they are delivering junk mail now, addressed and unaddressed - this isn't something new they are planning to do.
Is that delivering value in your eyes?

I put a 'NO JUNK MAIL' sign on my letterbox, I still receive iceland and farmfood catalogues, I can never catch the guy doing it! lol Sneaky begger!

Nice OP :-) Hope you're not a Postman though!

"A postman who advised people how to stop junk mail being delivered to their home could lose his job after bosses suspended him for misconduct. Roger Annies composed and circulated a leaflet about the Royal Mail's opt-out clause for unsolicited mail during his rounds in Barry, south Wales. "

Probably lives on the cut down portions Iceland sell in their freezers - as a result fast as a gazelle due to a lean mean BMI.

If only he'd paid the postage....

"Royal" Mail make it as hard as hell to opt out, even losing your printed, signed & posted form.

..ignoring said form when re-sent. continually.

As for "the prices will go up if we don't accept this junk" ..well they are a privatised company who will put the prices up regardess to protect the pay out EXPECTED by major investors (lots of politicians etc, via their family members obviously).

The only way to have a hope of slowing the flow is to ring the damn depot manager (early & always before mid-day) to chew the balls off the people who fail to comply).

You can also inform verbally that the manager takes note of the fact that there is no assumed right of access to the property except for the purpose of delivering "named" post to your address, & get them to write a confirmation, that is pretty much binding & can be used when there is failure to comply & give them a hard time.

RM is great at avoiding compliance AND liability you need to adopt a hard stance with the a-hole management (sadly).

Thanks for the tip OP

I am not sure why Royal Mail are being spoken of as the bad guy here, as far as I know Royal Mail do not get a choice in the matter. A company approaches them and asks them to send people letters/ leaflets etc .... Royal Mail have to say ok...... look at the alternative, you go to the post office to send a letter and they say no, we do not fancy sending your letter find another way to get it to where ever.... I think I am right in saying that the law of the land dictates that they have to send the mail if asked to and it has been paid for.

Happy to be corrected.

Cold - they deliver my Domino's Pizza menu

be warned it takes several attempts to get them to actually stop - I ended up having to lodge a compliant after reqesting without success 3 x

I previously registered, but they still put the junk through anyway (including the government's EU-in propaganda one).

Cheers op. Sick of crap leaflets being delivered by postie.

I put all the junk mail back into the post box. If everyone were to do this, the privatised Post Office would go bust and the government would be forced to renationalise, hopefully it at a drop down price.

I agree with you and i also get the bloody Sun Alliance life insurance every month talk about waste paper.

how would that work the post office just charge the sender of the mail to return it back to them so royal mail get paid anyway. I put all my junk mail back with return to sender written on it royal mail get paid by the sender and the sender stops sending out to you as they dont like paying for returned post.

I used to deliver leaflets privately, I'm sorry guys but I must admit, I used to ignore all of the no leaflet signs, I found some people were still interested in what was being posted, anyhow, I receive the leaflets because it's keeping people in a job or alternatively keeping postage down! ;-)

Understand that there's no such thing as a free lunch, we pay advertisers (through the products/sevices we buy) to pursue their pointless and wasteful activity.

thanx

Download the form here

http://s000.tinyupload.com/download.php?file_id=27408282644758145797&t=2740828264475814579746858

I've opted out for more than 2 without reapplying.

​I wouldn't have thought that was the case. Surely they have the right to refuse, unless the junk mail provider sticks a stamp on each envelope and posts a whole load in a postbox.

They do have a right to refuse any business, but why would they? If they did refuse, all the company would do is approach other companies like Whistl who have their post delivered via Royal Mail but then Royal Mail wouldn't earn as much!

royal mail is going to put it's prices up regardless. heat from me.

They ARE the bad guy IF & WHEN they fail to comply.
They DO have the right to refuse to carry mail (look up the law) ...ever been asked by counter staff what you are sending, that's why, there is a big old list in statute as to what they can / cannot , will / will not carry.

Are people really that bothered about junk mail? I can understand junk phone calls but how much anguish can a bit of mail cause you?

People still send letters? :man:

Let's go one step further and make it illegal for royal mail to put so much junk mail through peoples letterbox.

The opt-out has never worked for me, despite trying 3 times.

Pop it all back in the post return to sender for free win win

Just put a big warning sign on ur door, saying if u post unaddressed mail I will come out and have a go at you. and please don't walk on my lovely grass.

superb. just registered. thanks. heat given

And then they email you the exact same same to print out and send back by... Royal Mail.. :/

Write "Not Known At This Address: Return To Sender" on it and put it back in a post box...even if it is your name, you don't have to be honest to these people you know?

Thank you OP

We get at least 2 large pieces of mail from Virgin per week..I used to send it back but they still sent stuff out. I now just put in recycling but this is really wasteful.

Thanks OP should stop at least some of the rubbish. What really makes me laugh is the amount of mail/leaflets generated by the Green party for today's election in Scotland. A really sinister outfit who want to smother ambition and seem to have forgotten their origins

You can Opt out all you want BUT the actual postman will IGNORE that and deliver it anyway as he gets paid extra to do so..

This! Brilliant! I'm now going to do this.

How did i not know this was a thing?

Thanks OP! Heat Heat Heat! :innocent:

Don't forget as far as Royal Mail is concerned
"To the householder"
Means mail is addressed and gets delivered!

Absolute Nonsense!

Or do your bit for the enviroment and chuck it straight into the recycling bin :stuck_out_tongue:

Heres my solution take all your junk mail collect it up for about a week or so, then go and find the nearest post box and post it back to royal mail. If Royal mail really enjoy handling junk mail then why should we deprive them of this privilege.

I would personally be happy to pay a bit more for postage and not have to put up with endless mountains of junk mail we have to endure. Royal postage is not too bad value overall. Heat OP

Well if that is nonsense why do folk who opt out still get advertising **** via royal mail hand delivered, marketing A4's etc etc!?

Because the system used is very basic and prone to error, and the Postie does not get paid extra to deliver these items

Or the "DND" on the letters is simply ignored, just the other week we received 2 pieces of junk marketing & one envelope which had the note on it as opted out.

not for the first time either.