Use code 'LSTV5DD100' (valid until Tuesday, in-store or online) to get £100 off. Was £999 - £899 with promo cod). Best price i've seen this model:
Product features
4K Ultra HD HDR
Catch-up & 4K Streaming with Android
Picture quality: Motionflow XR 400 Hz
Tuner: Twin Freeview HD with YouView
Connectivity: HDMI 2.0 x 4
10 bit (8 bit + FRC)
All comments (35)
andrewt1
1 Oct 17#1
How does this compare to Samsung UE55MU7000?
strong1
1 Oct 17#2
Where are these comments! I’m still waiting for the ‘not true hdr’ and not ‘cheap model’!
All serious though, is this 10-bit hdr? Good for gaming?
EndlessWaves to strong1
1 Oct 17#3
I'd wait for the XE85 to come down in price personally, I'm sure that'll be £900 within a month, or two at most. The XE8 models seem oddly overpriced right now given the deals we've seen on the XE70 and XE90 lately.
It is, but it's not a not a TV to buy if HDR is a priority as there's no local dimming system at all. You need to go two models up to the XE90 before you start to see the beginning of that.
jayjayuk1234
1 Oct 17#4
8 bit + FRC does not equal 10 bit
EndlessWaves to jayjayuk1234
1 Oct 17#5
Prove it.
All practical tests seem to show otherwise. For example rtings banding tests have them mixed together: rtings.com/tv/…ent
Obviously on an OLED where the brightness is expressed directly by the panel then you'll want lots of brightness steps, but on an LCD much of the brightness range isn't even handled by the panel!
jayjayuk1234 to EndlessWaves
1 Oct 17#20
Regardless of any tests.....or panel technology differences. 8 bit plus FRC doesn't equal 10 bit.... never ever ever will, so should not be advertised as such.
nate1980
1 Oct 17#6
Careful people buying anything from curry/CPW
The guarantee won't cover you for an abandoned building, when you have a fault and go and return :joy:
NomiKaay
1 Oct 17#7
These are subpar TVs. If you really want to experience the best 4K, go with anything from Samsung or LG.
fiestasteve44 to NomiKaay
1 Oct 17#8
Pmsl
CaiGuy to NomiKaay
1 Oct 17#9
I can't tell if this is serious or not....
NomiKaay to CaiGuy
1 Oct 17#11
Well, I'm serious. Rather than a snarky remark, please enlighten me with a counterargument.
CaiGuy to NomiKaay
1 Oct 17#13
Well Samsung fair enough but at this price point the majority of LG TV's have RGBW panels... So not better than Sony bravia
GreenCalx1971 to NomiKaay
1 Oct 17#14
Top trolling! Had me going for a moment there.
jimbo001 to NomiKaay
1 Oct 17#15
That's a disappointingly ignorant comment
Spacevsgravity to NomiKaay
1 Oct 17#16
Ever seen the local dimming on dear Samsung's sets? Choose any set, no matter what the price.
greenant to NomiKaay
2 Oct 17#31
LG then, because I much prefer WebOS. And Samsung is a shady company. Wish Sony used WebOS too.
jacko791
1 Oct 17#10
Was in Currys a few days ago looking at TVs. Just off a subjective look at the picture, this one seemed way ahead of anything else in the £800-1200 range. Obviously not as good as the £1500+ oled/qled ones but I was surprised how close it was. Not generally a Sony fan boy as my current TV is a Sony and picture quality is terrible
anchor44
1 Oct 17#12
Considering getting the 49” version of this to replace my 2013 Samsung. Saw it in the shop and it’s a really nice tv. This one is 400hz motion refresh rate as well compared to the xe80 which is 100hz
DeafCassette
1 Oct 17#17
I'm considering getting a replacement for my 2004 "HD ready" (no hdmi ports!!!) 40" Philips plasma screen. I'm going to wait until January next year. Just doing some preliminary research now so I can track prices.
Any recommendations for a 50 - 55inch for under 800 gratefully received. (Gotta buy surround soundand a PS4 pro too)
Amarjit1 to DeafCassette
2 Oct 17#26
Your best bet is a 55" Samsung MU7000 which meets all the requirements for HDR (wide colour gamut, true 10-bit) etc. Slightly outside of your budget at £1000 though. The 49" is on offer for £850.
DeafCassette to Amarjit1
2 Oct 17#35
appreciate e recommendatio
DeafCassette
1 Oct 17#18
Reading the comments here and in other threads there seems to be real debate (confusion..?) around who is the best manufacturer.
Is it it right to say there is no one "best" manufacturer and it depend solely on models etc?
I would think think there would be one best at each price point, but I mean finding it difficult to establish who that actually might be...
samsung / LG debate above seems to illustrate this poin
EndlessWaves to DeafCassette
1 Oct 17#22
Absolutely.
TV prices drop throughout the year and the entire range is replaced yearly, so any lists for a given price point aren't valid for long, and it often takes most of the year for a sufficient quantity of reviews to come out to make a rounded picture.
Which definition of 'equal' do you feel is more important to most TV buyers - the same technical gubbins or the same image output?
The minor distinctions are an engineering discussion. For shopping advice it's the bits of hardware with significant influence on the resulting picture that we want to be discussing, and trivial differences should be glossed over.
jayjayuk1234 to EndlessWaves
2 Oct 17#33
Your whole point is moot.
Customers think they're buying a true 10bit TV, when it isn't, and none of your comments will change this fact
If due to LCD these differences are negligible or not isn't the point at all, 8bit TV should not be advertised as being 10 bit. end of story.
Arguments about who can see differences between the two, or which panel can accurately display 10 bit are irrelevant, i am merely pointing out that the specs are misleading
I have not gone into any engineering discussion here as i have done so on numerous previous threads,
EndlessWaves to jayjayuk1234
2 Oct 17#34
I suppose I agree with you in principle, in practice though how do you assign a bit depth to a TV? You can't use the bit depth of the LCD panel as that's dealing with a different range to HDR content's bit depth.
It's easier just to smile and nod, and those few who have a reason for specifically wanting a 10-bit LCD panel will have sufficient technical knowledge to make their requirements known.
Masteryates to DeafCassette
2 Oct 17#29
I would say, only believe what is most important to you, (i.e. your own eyes.)
Spend a ton of time in store having a look at a real variety of material with all the processing settings turned off. Don't just focus on the Demo 4K material as in reality you may also be watching really poor quality channels like ITV4.
If the salesman isn't prepared to let you do this, buy from somewhere that will.
Sharpharp
1 Oct 17#19
Only buy if you enjoy having the TV for 6 months at a time and sony having it in for repair the 2 months after. like the X D models, XE fails 6-12 down the line.
josephallen
1 Oct 17#21
Not proper HDR then. :joy:
Uridium
2 Oct 17#23
I'd pay the extra £100 and buy from richer sounds if this is the model you want. At least If you have a problem the guarantee will be worth having and you won't have to deal with Currys god awful customer service
EndlessWaves to Uridium
2 Oct 17#27
The 55" XE80/XE83 is a Currys exclusive, at least outside of the more expensive FW business variant designed for continuous operation.
I guess you're talking about the XE85 which is the next model up and notably different in several respects. Most of them are improvements, but it is likely to have narrower viewing angles.
marshaal5
2 Oct 17#24
Currys are an abysmal company. Buy elsewhere
greenant to marshaal5
2 Oct 17#32
Can't agree with this comment more. I could try, but I would fail. They cocked up my previous two purchases and they behaved terribly afterwards. 10+ phone calls to resolve Never again.
musical
2 Oct 17#25
I wouldn't buy a television from any current manufacturer without Freeview Play if you watch terrestrial broadcasts.
EndlessWaves to musical
2 Oct 17#28
Sony have Youview which is very similar.
musical to EndlessWaves
2 Oct 17#30
Apart from the fact that the YouView programme guide is completely swamped with NowTV, etc. and there is no way to avoid it, unless things have changed.
I just checked and it hasn't changed. You're forced to wade through pay movies, etc. in the guide and in the last few months YouView has even taken away the ability to hide channels in the guide.
People have been asking for an ability to filter out pay tv and other channels for years but YouView doesn't really care about user experience but rather its commercial paymasters at TalkTalk, BT and NowTV. Which is why it will fail.
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All serious though, is this 10-bit hdr? Good for gaming?
It is, but it's not a not a TV to buy if HDR is a priority as there's no local dimming system at all. You need to go two models up to the XE90 before you start to see the beginning of that.
All practical tests seem to show otherwise. For example rtings banding tests have them mixed together:
rtings.com/tv/…ent
Obviously on an OLED where the brightness is expressed directly by the panel then you'll want lots of brightness steps, but on an LCD much of the brightness range isn't even handled by the panel!
The guarantee won't cover you for an abandoned building, when you have a fault and go and return :joy:
Obviously not as good as the £1500+ oled/qled ones but I was surprised how close it was.
Not generally a Sony fan boy as my current TV is a Sony and picture quality is terrible
Any recommendations for a 50 - 55inch for under 800 gratefully received. (Gotta buy surround soundand a PS4 pro too)
Is it it right to say there is no one "best" manufacturer and it depend solely on models etc?
I would think think there would be one best at each price point, but I mean finding it difficult to establish who that actually might be...
samsung / LG debate above seems to illustrate this poin
TV prices drop throughout the year and the entire range is replaced yearly, so any lists for a given price point aren't valid for long, and it often takes most of the year for a sufficient quantity of reviews to come out to make a rounded picture.
Which definition of 'equal' do you feel is more important to most TV buyers - the same technical gubbins or the same image output?
The minor distinctions are an engineering discussion. For shopping advice it's the bits of hardware with significant influence on the resulting picture that we want to be discussing, and trivial differences should be glossed over.
Customers think they're buying a true 10bit TV, when it isn't, and none of your comments will change this fact
If due to LCD these differences are negligible or not isn't the point at all, 8bit TV should not be advertised as being 10 bit. end of story.
Arguments about who can see differences between the two, or which panel can accurately display 10 bit are irrelevant, i am merely pointing out that the specs are misleading
I have not gone into any engineering discussion here as i have done so on numerous previous threads,
It's easier just to smile and nod, and those few who have a reason for specifically wanting a 10-bit LCD panel will have sufficient technical knowledge to make their requirements known.
Spend a ton of time in store having a look at a real variety of material with all the processing settings turned off. Don't just focus on the Demo 4K material as in reality you may also be watching really poor quality channels like ITV4.
If the salesman isn't prepared to let you do this, buy from somewhere that will.
like the X D models, XE fails 6-12 down the line.
I guess you're talking about the XE85 which is the next model up and notably different in several respects. Most of them are improvements, but it is likely to have narrower viewing angles.
Buy elsewhere
I just checked and it hasn't changed. You're forced to wade through pay movies, etc. in the guide and in the last few months YouView has even taken away the ability to hide channels in the guide.
People have been asking for an ability to filter out pay tv and other channels for years but YouView doesn't really care about user experience but rather its commercial paymasters at TalkTalk, BT and NowTV. Which is why it will fail.