Scan have this MSI motherboard for sale. Was £90.49 now £49.99!
Looks a decent price considering it`s around £100 on Ebuyer, Amazon and CCL.
MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK, Intel Z170, S 1151, DDR4, SATA3 6Gbps, M.2 (PCIe/SATA), 2-Way CrossFire, GbE LAN, USB 3.1 Gen2, ATX.
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FloatingWilson
7 Oct 17#1
Heat added. :thumbsup:
Chanchi32
7 Oct 17#2
:thumbsup:
vassy1
7 Oct 17#3
Heat added :smile:
nazmanchester
7 Oct 17#4
great find op! especially as I'm looking for parts for a new biuld
coventgamer to nazmanchester
7 Oct 17#14
Better to go down the ryzen route
Ev0lution to coventgamer
7 Oct 17#20
Not if you put a 7700K in it isn't.
xepa to Ev0lution
7 Oct 17#21
You can get a Ryzen 7 1700X which has double cores/threads for less, why would it be better to get a 7700K? I'm genuinely interested if there's something I'm missing apart from the clock speed, which I believe the Ryzen can be OC'd to 4.2GHz.
montana78 to xepa
7 Oct 17#22
I had the fx 8350 which is much better than i5. But i had to downgrade to i5-4670k as amd chip gave jerky gameplay. It would handle games well but there would be drop in framerate roughly every 5 seconds. It was very annoying. I'm an amd fanboy but now I've moves to intel. My next upgrade would be the i9
bankbandit to xepa
8 Oct 17#24
You are right, it makes no sense to buy into 7700K just for this mobo. There are wiser ways to spend your hard-earned 350 quid (7700K + this mobo) these days. Ryzen 7 1700X (or just Ryzen 7 1700, OC it and save some money) is a better alternative, not to mention the future proofing that comes with the AM4 platform.
Besides, any motherboard that limits you to a max of 4 core/8 threads is simply yesterday's news.
Ev0lution to bankbandit
8 Oct 17#25
Or you could buy an 8700K which exceeds every ryzen CPU at £350 plus whatever Z370 mobo you choose to buy.
Ryzen is simply old news now. In gaming AND multi-core performance. The reviews have an 8700k running at 5.1GHz with a simple slight voltage increase.
Although AMD have to take huge credit. They have forced Intel to respond and respond they have.
The real CPU to watch for gamerswill be the i5 8600K for price/performance ratios.
sion22 to Ev0lution
8 Oct 17#29
There is a big different between getting both cpu and mobo at £350 and getting a cpu at £350 with £120+ for the cheapest z370 mobo. also 8700K is Top performance but performance per dollar wise, Ryzen is still better than 8700K.
Currently running a 2500K but i probably upgrade to a 8600K since i only use it for games
davem to Ev0lution
8 Oct 17#33
All aboard the paper launch hype train - choo choo!
Lets see your total system build cost and silicon lottery 8700 running at 5.1Ghz . Check out the Gamer Nexus review of his chip which only managed 4.9 stable. If you're building budget, good luch finding a cheap z370 and just when you think you've been hard done by, Intel are releasing another new chipset to replease z370 early next year. Intel know how to please shareholders.
Ryzen is stlill a top contender choice given it's widely available with cheaper motherboards. More and more games will be suited to multicores which means those extra cores/threads will keey your system going longer.
nazmanchester
7 Oct 17#5
used very good at Amazon £46.81 prime or new £59.10 with free delivery
ro888
7 Oct 17#6
Not sure if it is still worth to invest on such old platform. For the same price, ZEN + B350 seems more future proof.
dxx to ro888
7 Oct 17#7
Such an old platform? The Z170 supports up to Intel's 7700K, which was their flagship consumer CPU until two days ago. Despite being two days out of date, that combination will still maul comparable Ryzen setups in most real-world applications.
f_a_b_i_o_48 to dxx
7 Oct 17#18
But it doenst support the new 8700k.. also, the z170 is at least 2years old.. get your facts right before talking sh***
Ev0lution to f_a_b_i_o_48
7 Oct 17#19
It doesn't support AM4 either so what is your point?
Its a £50 mobo with a feature set you would normally only get on a mobo double that price.
FloatingWilson to f_a_b_i_o_48
7 Oct 17#23
Well that was rude!
vardx to dxx
8 Oct 17#27
I bought an MSI Z170 board, to use with a G4560, to find out that it needed a bios update in order to support the chipset. So I had to buy an additional older compatible CPU just to update the bios. Worth keeping in mind.
Rabmac1
7 Oct 17#8
Very tempted at this price, although I am finding it hard to justify the spend as my current setup is running everything fine.
Heat added though.
xp3200
7 Oct 17#9
very good deal HOT
Dogpitt
7 Oct 17#10
Voted hot. I nearly bought this same motherboard from Amazon for £80+ as a replacement for a faulty Asrock one. Went for a Gigabyte z3 gaming in the end for similar money...
summerof76
7 Oct 17#11
Heat added Frank :raised_hand:
Tei
7 Oct 17#12
what ram/cpu would people recommend to go with this? I think its finally about time i upgraded from my trusted 2500k
codnan
7 Oct 17#13
Thanks op , couldn’t resist this
daieye
7 Oct 17#15
Would someone who knows please list a selection of cheap cases power supply and processor please would be very grateful all comparable with this board building a system for my 10 year old
Rabmac1 to daieye
7 Oct 17#16
What is your budget? What will your child be using the PC for? What components do you already have?
daieye to Rabmac1
8 Oct 17#30
Hi budget is simple to start £300. He does want to be able to play some games on it and so a gaming type rig is what I am after
jomay to daieye
8 Oct 17#34
Not sure you are in the right thread, mate. There's a Ryzen vs. Intel fight going on here and you clearly want a very low budget option. I might even be so bold to suggest the HP Proliant Server with cashback for £125. hotukdeals.com/dea…831 I think the power supply doesn't have a 6pin PCI-e power connectors, so you can only put in graphics cards without a separate power connector. I believe there are Nvidia GTX 1050 (Ti) without power connectors and they start at £110.
Spend the rest on a HDD/SSD, Windows 10, or add more memory (beware! this may need ECC). I hope you have a monitor?
This build will be very good value for money but it does require some skills and research from your side. The motherboard has a server chipset, which may not like normal customer components.
Going the route you initally wanted will be very tight imho: a case is >40-50, a psu >25-35, memory 50-80, cpu >50, mobo >50, hdd >50 => 270£ without graphics and all low quality components.
Alternative: if he doesn't play 3D intense games skip the graphics card and rely on the internal graphics card (I think AMD is better there). There should be prebuilt systems for £300 that would be suitable. They are certainly NOT listed as "gaming" computer.
daieye to jomay
8 Oct 17#36
Thanks for that plenty to think about
Rabmac1 to daieye
8 Oct 17#35
This build does not have a graphics card and would need to use onboard graphics: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…zJV
Personally I would recommend getting a graphics card and you could probably pick up a decent 2nd hand one on Ebay for about £50. I have included RAM & HDD in this build but you can remove them if you already have those components. This build has a budget case but the other components are pretty decent and will run most things with a decent graphics card. You also have great options for upgrading later due to the motherboard.
daieye to Rabmac1
9 Oct 17#43
Budget is £300 graphics card will be bought for him from grandparents. So £300 for board. Processor ram case hard drive and power supply. Thanks
Put in a list of the components you want to use and it'll tell if they're compatible or put just the parts you have and then search for other components based on what would work with it.
That said if you don't even know what kind of processor to be looking for I'd suggest doing a little research yourself before going into a build. It's not an overly complicated thing to pull off but it's pretty important to have an understanding of the components, what they do, and what's currently on the market before you start buying parts.
Completely new to all this and I will be doing my own research of course, but what are people's thoughts on the best value CPU + motherboard + GPU for around 600 together (for those parts) for gaming. Also when's the best/worst time to buy and what are the best sites to use? Thanks
jomay to Headless96
8 Oct 17#32
I'm not an expert on gaming stuff but I'd think this is a great deal for you.
Pair it with an i5-7600k (£191), that leaves you with £350 for a very good GPU. A Ryzen 1700X will set you back £290 already, that won't leave enough for the GPU. Maybe a lower spec Ryzen could be interesting for you. 8 cores aren't that important for gaming anyways.
Make no mistake - all this "Intel/Ryzen is better" talk is a bit irrelevant. The GPU matters so much more for gaming, at least if we are talking about a "low cost" £600 build.
Edit: As someone else mentioned, BEWARE if this motherboard does not support an i5-7600k without a bios update.
gowf
8 Oct 17#38
Jeez, the bickering on these threads....
Yes it's an older z board but heck it's as cheap as I've seen it.
For a pure gamer the intel chips are better full stop. And I say this as a ryzen owner. I would see if you could find an used 6600k on eBay or something similar.
It's a hot deal.
Szabster to gowf
8 Oct 17#40
Gotta agree with you. It's an excellent deal for someone who wants a 1151 mobo and 5, maybe 6 pci-e slots including the m.2 slot... Hmm...
FamGuy
8 Oct 17#39
A sub-par motherboard.
kelly78
8 Oct 17#41
Msi z170a
cigbunt
8 Oct 17#42
hot if you need/want a z170...
not worth building a "new" , old build with this unless you can get a cheap used cpu..
overall best bang for buck cpu on the market is the ryzen 1600 (£180) pair with a b350 board (£70/80)
mudisoft
10 Oct 17#44
This mobo will support 7700K, which can output more FPS in games than any Ryzen at this price point.
cigbunt to mudisoft
10 Oct 17#45
Yea in the non taxing areas.. dead upgraded path for minimal gain
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Opening post
Looks a decent price considering it`s around £100 on Ebuyer, Amazon and CCL.
MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK, Intel Z170, S 1151, DDR4, SATA3 6Gbps, M.2 (PCIe/SATA), 2-Way CrossFire, GbE LAN, USB 3.1 Gen2, ATX.
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Besides, any motherboard that limits you to a max of 4 core/8 threads is simply yesterday's news.
Ryzen is simply old news now. In gaming AND multi-core performance. The reviews have an 8700k running at 5.1GHz with a simple slight voltage increase.
Although AMD have to take huge credit. They have forced Intel to respond and respond they have.
The real CPU to watch for gamerswill be the i5 8600K for price/performance ratios.
Currently running a 2500K but i probably upgrade to a 8600K since i only use it for games
Lets see your total system build cost and silicon lottery 8700 running at 5.1Ghz . Check out the Gamer Nexus review of his chip which only managed 4.9 stable. If you're building budget, good luch finding a cheap z370 and just when you think you've been hard done by, Intel are releasing another new chipset to replease z370 early next year. Intel know how to please shareholders.
Ryzen is stlill a top contender choice given it's widely available with cheaper motherboards. More and more games will be suited to multicores which means those extra cores/threads will keey your system going longer.
Its a £50 mobo with a feature set you would normally only get on a mobo double that price.
Heat added though.
hotukdeals.com/dea…831
I think the power supply doesn't have a 6pin PCI-e power connectors, so you can only put in graphics cards without a separate power connector. I believe there are Nvidia GTX 1050 (Ti) without power connectors and they start at £110.
Spend the rest on a HDD/SSD, Windows 10, or add more memory (beware! this may need ECC). I hope you have a monitor?
This build will be very good value for money but it does require some skills and research from your side. The motherboard has a server chipset, which may not like normal customer components.
Going the route you initally wanted will be very tight imho: a case is >40-50, a psu >25-35, memory 50-80, cpu >50, mobo >50, hdd >50 => 270£ without graphics and all low quality components.
Alternative: if he doesn't play 3D intense games skip the graphics card and rely on the internal graphics card (I think AMD is better there). There should be prebuilt systems for £300 that would be suitable. They are certainly NOT listed as "gaming" computer.
Personally I would recommend getting a graphics card and you could probably pick up a decent 2nd hand one on Ebay for about £50. I have included RAM & HDD in this build but you can remove them if you already have those components. This build has a budget case but the other components are pretty decent and will run most things with a decent graphics card. You also have great options for upgrading later due to the motherboard.
Put in a list of the components you want to use and it'll tell if they're compatible or put just the parts you have and then search for other components based on what would work with it.
That said if you don't even know what kind of processor to be looking for I'd suggest doing a little research yourself before going into a build. It's not an overly complicated thing to pull off but it's pretty important to have an understanding of the components, what they do, and what's currently on the market before you start buying parts.
Pair it with an i5-7600k (£191), that leaves you with £350 for a very good GPU. A Ryzen 1700X will set you back £290 already, that won't leave enough for the GPU. Maybe a lower spec Ryzen could be interesting for you. 8 cores aren't that important for gaming anyways.
Make no mistake - all this "Intel/Ryzen is better" talk is a bit irrelevant. The GPU matters so much more for gaming, at least if we are talking about a "low cost" £600 build.
Edit: As someone else mentioned, BEWARE if this motherboard does not support an i5-7600k without a bios update.
Yes it's an older z board but heck it's as cheap as I've seen it.
For a pure gamer the intel chips are better full stop. And I say this as a ryzen owner. I would see if you could find an used 6600k on eBay or something similar.
It's a hot deal.
not worth building a "new" , old build with this unless you can get a cheap used cpu..
overall best bang for buck cpu on the market is the ryzen 1600 (£180) pair with a b350 board (£70/80)