Average Joe does not even buy this phone. There are so many articles on internet about this issue and how to connect the phone to the TV ,that most owners I guess care about this issue and were caught ungaurded. It is better to make an informed choice.

Ok but I don't think average Joe will be connecting his phone up to screens on a regular basis will they- I have never seen anyone connect a phone to a screen- not in business or anything. I am sure some people will, but it is not the usual use of a phone so I doubt the loss of this feature will register with most.

To connect it to various screens available every where and watch picture , photos , videos in high resolution. Also can be used as Android computer. No need to to carry laptop / tablet when your phone will just do.

This is what I'll be doing too. Just waiting for my Pixel 2 XL to arrive before sending Nexus back to Huawei. Originally purchased it from CPW.

Dammit, displayport alternate mode is always the number 1 requirement. I'm out as the Dragons say.
Why would I want Displayport alternate mode again?

im assuming you don't get a replacement phone in the meantime? Got my pixel 2 pre ordered now. Mazuma mobile says it will give £130 for nexus 6p too.

Bought this as soon as it was released in October last year. Sitting in the drawer with Spigen case and screen protector. Great Phone but have not much used as I use Samsung Note 4 for day to day work.

Crazy that this is currently cheaper than the standard version in cpw !!

Ordered last night through TCB but haven't received confirmation email yet and not tracked. This always happens with CPW & TCB have to ring them and then of course no cash back. Anyone else have this problem?

Hi @shaun442k I got it through mobiles.co.uk whose warranty is only a year, but I've checked on the Huawei website and they do a 2 year warranty on their products and I'm (just!) within the 2 years. So hopefully I can send it back and they'll either chuck a new battery in for me to last until I upgrade or (fingers crossed, potentially wishful thinking) might replace it with their own equivalent current device.

My Pixel XL just got delivered today, but after laughing in the face of the proposed pricing of the Pixel 2 XL, I'm now seriously considering returning and going for the upgrade... I guess I'm sucker for a keynote :blush:

Through a work scheme I get 9% off at Currys, so I'd be looking at £727 for a Pixel 2 XL with Google Home Mini. Very tempting...

In other news, Huawei screwed up the 'repair' of my Nexus 6P and introduced some debris over the camera lens. So I'll also have to go through the rigmarole of another CPW warranty repair :unamused:

No displayport alternate mode . So does not connect to directly TV or monitor like S8 , Note 8 or LG V30 . S8 and Note 8 can be used as computer with dex dock and Andronimium screen.

You know, few years ago was different. Today even midrange Snapdragon 625 is great for everything and only lacks for gaming, so you can't really compare.

Probably a scam mate, no shortage of those dudes on Gumtree. That’s certainly not a typical price for one.

This. But new Pixels are very tempting...

It has official Android update support until at least october 2018, with security updates until at least October 2019 :smile:

Hmm this or OnePlus5? I imagine this has the better camera but for £50 more OP5 has twice the storage and will probably be supported for longer. Does anyone know the last Android update the Pixel will get?

In the HIGHLY unlikely event that you have an iPhone 7, OnePlus 5, Pixel and Note 8, why?

I literally can’t get my head around the points you are attempting to make, 60fps in Chrome?

They forgot to cut the opening for the sd card. so not much good for storing things like gps maps of Luton.
or looking at your photos of Luton Airport stewardesses offline. But im sure its good for using messenger lite.

Looks like the Pixel 2 has the contract controlling esim and a user controlled sim slot.
The user friendly 3.5mm analogue headphone socket has gone now.

This is half the cost of the 2.

Fascinates me that you can come to that conclusion from a rational argument based on factual evidence.

I've had every iPhone, and with every release of iOS Apple became more intent on crippling those with older devices, forcing an upgrade. For me personally, thats not an issue, as I've bought every iPhone every year until the 8. My issue is with the form over function approach they've been taking since Steve Jobs passed. For anyone who actually uses their devices as more than a fancy facebook toy to show to friends, iOS is crippled when it comes to productivity. Heck, the screens keep getting larger yet you still can't multitask outside of the iPad. When I try to multitask I have to double click, wait for the animations to catch up, then scroll sideways and hope that the momentum animation stops like its supposed to, on the app that I want. Yet it rarely does so.

Baffled as to why so many people go on the defensive on the internet. I'm open minded and have no allegiances to corporations that have nothing to do with me, and only value people for their money and nothing more.

For the sake of balance:

iPhone sucks at productivity, and software has been a buggy mess since iOS 9/10. No customisation options. That's about all I have against it. The latter isnt even really an issue unless you stare at your home screen all day.

OnePlus 5 lags like hell yet has the best non-Apple hardware going currently, cant maintain anywhere near 60fps in apps like chrome, yet the Google Pixel and the Note 8 I have manage just fine. Camera is garbage. Software is similarly buggy, but still better than iOS and probably Oreo as far as stability goes. The speaker is awful. Earpiece sound for calls is average at best, painful at worst.

Pixel 2 = £629 for 64GB

lol. Google heard your voice! £799.99 for pixel xl 64gb is NOT BAD!

Where did you buy it from?

If you got it from the google store, get in contact with them and you'll almost certainly get a Pixel XL for free. I did.

the only two minor complaints are the battery and the storage.
with around 4 hours screen time only.

outdated yet finally with reasonable price tag.

I've had a Nexus 4, 5 and currently 6P. It's a shame that the days of £400 Nexus devices are long gone. The 4 was around £270 and my 6P was £430 new the day it came out from what I remember. The Pixel was something like £720 despite only releasing a year after the 6P with a £300 price increase.

I'm holding out for the Pixel 2 XL today and hoping that it costs £720-£750...maybe £799 as an absolute limit.

£800 seems massively high but it's not really any different than a Galaxy or iPhone price which is the kind of phone they designed it to compete against.

If it's £850 or £899 or something insane I'll pick up one of these old models from Carphone Warehouse this evening.

Performance isn't even that different between them all. I took my 6P into Argos where they had a Pixel XL and Note 8 demo unit and the Pixel XL was fastest, then my 2 year old 6P was practically the same speed as the Note 8, maybe marginally slower.

This was a 2 year old £430 phone vs a brand new £870 one.

I'm more than confident that the XL could get another year and a half of solid use out of it - or 2 years at a stretch even if you bought it now.

Practically nothing is wrong with my 6P and it's still fantastically fast, but the battery is failing and I can't deal with the 32gb storage. I could probably run it for a 3rd year if I tried.

That's what people need to understand; the best hardware in the world won't help if Samsung decides to plaster their heavy overlay on top that can slow everything down. Benchmarks are a terrible, terrible way of gauging how a phone behaves in real life.

Do you know how much the Pixel 2 range is going to cost?

A lot. It is going to cost a lot.

Hot for outdated £400 32GB phone? It was well overpriced since it came out and wont get any heat from me. £400 should be its price from start.

You dont seem to be able to buy the 32gb STD pixel anywhere anymore - can anyone confirm ?

Checked various places for latest price and can't even find one !

I am an Android phone user, have been since the dawn of smartphones (currently using an HTC U11).

I have thousands of pounds worth of other Apple kit, but really don't rate iPhone at all.

So, whereas I could have the latest iPhone if I wanted to, you sound very much like you'd love to, but budget won't allow.

It's almost embarrassing how someone can call someone else a child before resorting to nonsensical insults

Neither of you know what you're talking about, and i question if you even digested my previous post properly.

I shouldn't even bother explaining it to you, but I will.

The iPhone has a very slow animation speed compared to the oneplus 5.

This means that the moment you tap on an app, the iPhone is automatically slower than the oneplus 5 at opening that app. The animation speed on the oneplus 5 is quick enough that it takes half the time to open an app. We're talking about something small, like a second or so if that, but in day to day usage that makes everything seem quicker.

Its not even about the processor, the nvme SSD in the iPhone is significantly faster than the UFS storage in most high end android phones, but what's the point if they cripple the OS speed on purpose for what they perceive as being fancy animations?

But anyway, disagree with facts all you want, you're not exactly alone on the internet when it comes to that. The butthurt is real. I can't quite fathom how people are so offended by one single aspect (and probably the only aspect) of a random android phone being better than the almighty iPhone.

@cmpaterson How did you go about claiming? Did you take out a separate warranty originally or does the warranty come with the handset regardless? The battery has been driving me mad for months so I've been carrying a 10,000mAh power bank with me everywhere!

So if you are offered the same phone with a memory card slot or without what would you take?I can guarantee everytime a memory card slot.Fact is 32gb isn't enough for most and cloud storage is as good as the signal on YOUR phone.People are allowed to have an opinion without being shouted down or vilified .Decent deal no doubt but the fact remains it's let down with lack of memory no water proofing or wireless charging and the look of the phone is so old fashioned with the front screen having so much wasted bezel

New one, rumours have it, might be just an esim phone. ESIM is code for 'permanently locked to EE'. At least until other networks sign contracts to use Apple as a CPW like agent.
That could mean that these more useful phones keep their value.

Wrong....I'm no apple fanboi but the software is where they are competitive. A macbook air can run 12 hrs almost with Mac OS, same laptop in Windows gets maybe 6-8 if lucky.

Same goes for iOS, it's much better optimised..... because they control the hardware.

Rant and be an android fanboi all you want. You're just perpetuating the reasons why everyone hates you fanbois on both sides of the fence.

Grow up

Thanks for your feedback.
I knew CPW are 'Ds corp' was being subtle.

You can always find your own reason.
You just need some imagination.

That primarily affects products and services sold "off-premises" or at distance. For in-store purchase no retailer is compelled to offer a refund on an unwanted purchase unless it is part of their published policy which forms part of the original sale contract. Should other reasons necessitate the return of a purchase then different rules apply.

No just Pixel 2 . Hope it fits in my pocket

i hope they dont make a 32GB model of p2. if they do they will have a lot of stock left over

I’m not an iPhone man at all, but that comment is utterly wrong and almost silly.

Modern phones can run graphically intensive games, an animation (not really sure what you are referring to specifically) would not slow one down

Technically CPW no longer exists. Dixons and CPW merged to form Dixons Carphone. A larger, profit making, UK multinational.

To answer your second point a product warranty would still be valid in the event the retailer ceased trading. Rather than the retailer manage the return of the device to the UK supplier for repair you would need to do so yourself.

They do if purchased online under Consumer Contacts regulations.

Then you thought wrong. Check the Consumer Rights Act. No company has to offer a refund on unwanted goods.

Ok, but Pixel 2 XL 64gb will cost You  more than £800.

Yep, pixels were the first devices to get Oreo.

Not really

Apple clutter their OS by having stupidly slow and unnecessary animations, where as oneplus have fast and snappy animations. This in turn makes usage of the phone a lot quicker.

Throw all the specs you want at an iPhone, Apples poor software decisions are the deciding factor.

I purchased my nexus 4 through the Google play store never had any problems with it. Wouldn't have mattered were i bought it. Still going strong :popcorn:

I sold my 3 month old S6 Edge for N6P. Arguably worse hardware but software is SOOO much better. Stock Android over Touchwiz any day.

Yes purchased direct from Google 18 months ago so still under two year warranty.

Pity the Google store not doing it at this price, would be much better dealing directly if any warranty issues

I just ordered.. however the confirmation email is showing a different phone :fearful: Has anyone who ordered experienced this?

Not true ...not all phones support WiFi calling on EE sadly my p9 lite didn't yet my old nexus5x did !!! Got a p10 lite now and it does support WiFi calling :grin:

I bought the p10 lite I'm on EE and it supports WiFi calling , cost me £199 SIM free from cpw last week 4gb ram 32gb ROM and emui 5.1 (android 7 nougat ) worth a look ! Needs a case as the back is very slippery to hold hope this helps you

$699 Pixel 2

U11 is brilliant, but I don't think you'll find one for £300 for a while.

Haha, I need both, but budget only allows for one up to £500, so looking at either a Hisense or a phone..

Great phone..built quality of HTC.

My thoughts exactly. Decisions decisions.

To carry around in your pocket? This. To wall-mount in your lounge? A TV. :thumbsup:

I miss my Lg g3 camera when phone broke, got an Lenovo P2 as was good price. How good is this camera?

This or a new TV??

can this take the bokeh pics that iphone7s can...? my vodafone amrt ultra6 is starting to have phantom touch issues on the screen.. about 2.5yrs old so out of warranty... recently saw the bokeh photos on a friend's iphone 7s and they looked as good as the ones taken by a slr.... does pixel xl take those as well? camera'ss really the only reason i've got iphone on my list to replace the current mobile with..

Even Iphone 7 much better :smile:

"You're" not going to be backing up all your content in one go on 4G anyway so I don't believe the job is knackered.

The terms and conditions mention you have to be a German resident:
samsung.com/de/…pdf

Even without the freebies it's a great deal for a new S8 with EU warranty though.

It's a Samsung offer in Germany, linked to the Amazon page. No mention of any geographical restrictions and so should be ok. Have to buy before 12 October and register by 26 October.

Indeed, I often find myself in a dire situation in which I've exceeded my on board 32GB memory and it's imperative to watch 4k content in an area where there's no 4G or WiFi :smile:

And if your in an area with no 4g then jobs knackered.Still no thanks

How do you get the charger and memory card for free?

I bought one online last Friday when it was £449. It arrived yesterday and sat on my desk unopened. I ordered another this morning at £399 and returned the first order in store for a full refund at lunchtime! No problems at all. Both orders tracked on Quidco, although I expect the first to get declined now.

Fair enough. I stream Apple Music for free with EE so I don't need to store it really

Spotify.

I'm off a similar view but have been stung on refurbished phones and so am left trying to find bargain flagships. Had it been a week ago, I may have gone for this. However, I'm taking delivery of a Samsung S8 later on this week. It's £475 (from Amazon Germany) and so quite a bit more expensive but the bigger and better screen, faster processor and bezel less design should compensate. If I'm lucky, I might also get a free wireless charger and 64gb memory card.

how is the op5 faster than the 8/x ? that is impossible.

Was in the same situation a good few years ago. Decided to step down to a mid range phone thinking it would suit me fine. Regretted it big time. Now, I'll only buy flagship phones. But of course, I'm not going to spend £400+, so I buy last years like you're thinking about - refurbished to save some more cash. Now I upgrade every 2 years or so.

Having just lost my OP3 I was going to go for the Pixel or XL. The thing that swayed me back to One Plus was the amount of £ I will save by it being Dual Sim. I would also struggle to get used to having to turn off the screen with the button on the side. (as opposed to the excellent double tap on the FP sensor on the OP.)

yep

Okay bit more complex. I bought the phone for £450 online. I took the phone to the store, I gave them the phone. They then sold me a new phone and gave me £50 back

I had to give them my old one, they had to give me a new one.
I got home, had my new phone back to oreo and all set up with 130 apps within half hour.

Most manufacturers don't care after a year...

I'd pay more for the 128 version

Even if phone is unopened?

£400 for a phone that will be unsupported in a year.

Cold.

Also just to add that the pixel 2 XL won't be out until mid November, at a cost of >£800 for the 64gb version.

Friend has had the XL since day 1, and its still hair as smooth as it was.

Its obviously not as fast as any current phone, and it was slower than every other phone when it was released too, but no one cares because of the 60fps animations.

Case in point, the oneplus 5 I'm using is easily the fastest phone in day to day use, even beating the iPhone 8/X. Downside is all that power yet everything stutters, especially chrome. On the pixel XL, even the poor chrome app runs smoothly and with ads (I have AdAway on OP5).

Bottom line is, if you think £400 is still too expensive, you should probably just get a cheap oneplus 3T or an LG G6 for less.

So you took it back to store, and they refunded you the £50 difference and you kept the phone?

No way I'm paying £700-800 for a phone! So I will not hold out for new one. Maybe in a year's time when it drops to £400-500.

I'm rather light user, have few apps and very few photos/videos and have around 6GB left on 32GB phone. But make a few more videos, download couple of episodes/movies from Netflix and this could fill up very quickly. And I like to carry on my photos from previous phones to new ones so that's more of a futureproofing.

I'm on 6P nearly two years now and really struggling to find a replacement... I'm not going to spend £700 on new phone, that's crazy, so I'm considering something from midrange, like Moto Z Play/ G5S Plus or used galaxy S7 Edge/ HTC U11 for around £300.

Unlimited 4k cloud storage for pics and videos with this... might be an issue for some but I'm happy to have everything backed up in the Google cloud

The poster is talking about "wifi calling", not wifi. Wifi calling is when your cellphone calls are routed through your home wifi. It's useful for when you have a very weak cell phone signal in your house .

Plenty of third party ROMs for that which are made from AOSP. Is this getting an Oreo update?

I find 32gb no problems at all. Take photos, dump to cloud. Free unlimited storage so it's never a problem.

I bought this phone 10 days ago. I went to the shop to see if they'd knock a tenner off due to quidco only being for online purchases. They said no. I bought online, saved a tenner, kept it for over a week and today I took it back about got a £50 refund.

winner. thanks.

Pictures,videos in 4k? films, flac files.Using an S8 with 64gb internal and 200gb and I've already filled 160gb.Good phone good price but 32gb no way I would feel to restricted.

Im still on my nexus 4. But this might just tempt me if it drops any lower. But then again nexus 4 still going strong. The decisions the decisions. .....nexus 4 until it dies :thumbsup:

Contact Huawei directly. I have had my 6P since last February and the battery has gone kaput but I managed to get them to repair it for me yesterday. Get in touch with Huawei through their website, tell them it's the well known battery fault with your 6P and they shouldn't give you too much hassle about repairing it.

Yes there's a two year warranty. My 6p has just come back from Huawei it's as good as new, only took a week. Just give them a call, they send you a prepaid jiffy bag.

Because this is Android in it's purest form. Immediate updates from Google, and no 3rd party skinning or bloatware.

Meh. Snapdragon 821 was a bit crummy when new, but we didn't have anything better on the Android side. But compared to what we get now? £400 is still too much, especially given Goog's record on supporting Nexus phones past their best.

I don't understand why you would pay £400 for this phone considering other phones that you can get for very similar prices.

Did you do this in store or over the phone? If in store, which store did you go to?

All I can say is good luck if you're gonna wait longer. They're clearing all the stock and once they do, you'll never see this phone available brand new outside of eBay.

Bought one of these last week online for £449.99. Asked customer services if they would refund me £50 instead of me 14 day returning it and buying a new one at £399.99. They refused, so will now have an open box to get rid of instead of brand new stock. Talk about backward :-/

ive had my nexus 5x 32gb for 2 years and i still got 9gb free

Had no issues with mine

The Google Pixel's have a horrible design, like a fat iPhone 6, the camera was the best until the HTC U11 came out and now the iPhone 8/S have the best cameras.

tbh i bought a phone from cpw few years ago. phone broke 2 months before 24m contracted ended. phone was sent off and then replaced for brand new one.
depends how you approach customer services. and i didn't have any additional covers etc

don't think god has a say in the google device pricing?

Definitely go for the Pixel 2 then if its HTC built, far better quality and design than Huwaei or LG

I went for the standard Pixel 128GB recently, decided the 128GB model was of more use to me than the slightly bigger screen and battery of the XL for the same price. Really love this phone, Oreo is slick, updates every month, camera is just fantastic.

Will be interesting to see what v2 brings, but it won't be cheap. These are flagship phone to compete with the iPhone, so £600-£700 or maybe more for higher memory models is likely.

Except for the poor build quality

I could just order online to click and collect, and then return for a refund if something better comes out after the Pixel 2's launch?

Hmm...while benchmarks are a good indicator, I read recently a review on the Iphone8 and it said although the benchmarks blew everything way, it still start lagging with certain apps.

For those of you worried about 32GB storage. This is my Pixel after 10 months usage (I have 11GB worth of apps and System takes up 7.7GB). I've got smart storage setup so pics/videos over 30 days are deleted off the device as they are backed up full resolution to the cloud and easy to retrieve when you need them.

Sorry it was the S7 Edge I returned, not S8. Looking at benchmark scores, Pixel is better than S7 with Antutu, Vellamo, GFXBench and Basemark. S7 is only better on the GeekBench scores.

Either way, it's the software that makes the Pixel even faster and smoother without the trash on it that Samsung give.

I thought about that when I was first offered it but was surprised to find the 6P selling for higher prices on eBay. I just checked again and that's still the case.

Placed my order for the Pixel XL. If tomorrow's announcement does wow me I can always return. Thanks OP.

I don't think you should compare 6p with pixel.
nexus 6p was manufactured by Huawei, who doesn't agree well with google at the time, huawei had quite limited their contribution to 6p.
pixel would be a totally different story, with google taking over the business unit from HTC,
I can see the possibility of them reducing the price for pixel 1 while releasing pixel 2.
like apple is doing.

wut? that is terrible. i thought they have to accept full refund in 2 week by law

32GB should be fine for the vast majority of users with the unlimited photo back up that's included.

I think 32gb is enough for most people, especially with no storage needed for photos.

Saying that I recently downgraded from a 64Gb S6 edge to a 32gb S7 edge. £15 spent on gearbest and hey presto now have an extra 64Gb for netflix downloads etc. Still think SD cards for 'unnecessary storage' like that are the way to go.

Good buy.
But sceptical about CPW
If anything went wrong.

There losing money hand over fist ,
Stores are like the Mary Celeste!

Shouldn't joke,
But seriously, we're would one stand if they went into Administration, and there was an issue with handset?

Very tempted, though it's not very portable, pocket wise.

Been looking to get this one for sometime now, ordered and £10 Quidco has just tracked. Will see what Google brings out tomorrow and can always return if I change my mind.

Pixel XL 2 is made by LG and will likely have same screen as V30. Pixel 2 is made by HTC.

Google just bought HTC's smartphone design team so going forward will be pulling more resources inhouse, heading in the direction of how Apple makes the iPhone which can only be a good thing imo.

Amazing price for this but 32gb will be used up quickly. If the 128gb came down in price I might get that.

Just ordered as a surprised for other half eeek he wanted one for ages :smile:

dude get the s7... sell it and buy the pixel xl

I have a 6P also and battery issue is driving me up the wall. Would like to know where I stand with this. originally I have purchased this from CPW. I know there is a lawsuit in the US for this, but not sure where I stand.

Or Xmas sales...or Jan sales..or...or...

Every single benchmark (CPU, GPU and Storage) shows that it is worse than devices with the same SoC (SD 821)

I just received this as a warranty replacement for my Nexus 6P with dodgy battery. A lot slicker but what a let down to go back to a piddly single speaker.

If the Pixel 2 forgoes a proper headphone jack, I might have to pick up either one of these or an LG V30

Holding out for Pixel 2 , praying it's not going to cost an arm and a leg , otherwise I'll be considering my options, this being one of them

This is a better deal than a oneplus 5 (which I can get for about the same price, after student discount)?

I am looking mobile phone for WiFi calling as I do not get proper signal. Can someone help me any china or other mobile costing up to £200. Please help me as I cannot afford more than this. Thanks.

I'd be all over the Pixel if the price range was this when it first came out.

A bit lg'ish thought Google were making there own phones now?

Gonna wait and see what Google brings tomorrow all I need from then is to reduce those top and bottom bezels and I'd be happy

So tempted by this. Just wish it had a bit more storage. I know you get unlimited Google storage for photos and video's...but still.

Now it's a good price, heated but don't need (sidenote, this phone underperforms)

BARGAIN!! I've got the Pixel and Nexus 6P (personal + work) patiently waiting for the Pixel 2 XL to replace my Nexus.

Has this been a poor seller? Reason I ask is there isn't one user review on the CPW site...

What Users Say

venturebeat.com/201…xl/




Hold out for this..

Must.... Resist ..... :muscle:‌ :persevere:

Has anyone been in store yet to see if the price is different?

You could always keep it in the box for a week and return it should there be a further drop... as they only have 32GB in black left, I was concerned whatever stock is left might start shifting at this price pretty quickly.

Yes, you have 14 days to return an online purchase if you change your mind.

Waiting for Pixel 2 . Releasing tomorrow.32gb is very less so not sure. If it was 128gb model . Still voted hot due to regular updates from Google

Link doesn't work?

I've got this phone,go for it,can't fault it.

Hot, but i'm thinkinkg in black friday will be hotter.

I'm tempted as I want a phone mainly for the camera and for no more then £400 but I think waiting a week or so may see bigger price cuts with the new versions imminent..

New pixel announcement tomorrow. So these phone s would drop more on price