18:9 screen, 5.99" Full screen display 12% reduced chin size Hidden speaker & proximity sensor Snapdragon 835, 6GB RAM Sony IMX386 sensor, 1.25μm large pixels 4-axis optical image stabilization Four-sided curved ceramic body 7-series aluminum alloy frame Global LTE support, 6 modes 43 bands
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Latest comments (61)
Krinkle
19 Sep 17#11
I thought Xiaomi were s'posed to be cheap Chinese phones showing up the likes of Samsung and Apple...seems the price is creeping up to join them :disappointed:
CaptainSocks to Krinkle
19 Sep 17#14
To be fair, a lot of these price increases aren't anything to do with the companies themselves.
The pound is in the toilet. Exchange rate has been pap since... well... you know. :wink:
dz1 to CaptainSocks
19 Sep 17#26
Yes, I know. Exchange rate has been terrible since the financial crisis ten years ago.
CaptainSocks to dz1
19 Sep 17#32
We've literally just crept back to the lowest point we hit in 2008.
I was getting 1.55 to 1.6 dollars to the pound right up until Wrexit.
friar_chris to dz1
19 Sep 17#44
You may as well have said Black Wednesday. The pound had greatly strengthened against most major currencies (except USD) by the Brexit vote.
dz1 to friar_chris
19 Sep 17#50
I know it suits some people to blame brexit for expensive phones but it's just fake news, because the relevant currency here is the Chinese yuan. Most of the Pound's weakness against the yuan is down to the financial crisis of ten years ago. Brexit, not so much.
totalrecall1 to dz1
4 Oct 17#61
Sorry to burst your bubble but the yuan is pegged to the USD and Chinese products usually sold in USD, just like petrol. GBP crashed after the vote result. The impact will show when hedges run out and sellers can't absorb the cost anymore.
pgilc1 to Krinkle
19 Sep 17#20
You are paying for the quality of the product. That can't be done at a fraction of the price.
They are cheaper and high quality just not "very cheap"
dz1 to pgilc1
19 Sep 17#25
Xiaomi used to be better value. A few years ago they were doing well but recently their share of the market in China has dropped significantly. They have definitely become more expensive lately but quality has stayed about they same.
This is a nice phone but not that much better than the £180 bezel-less elephone S8 and that one has a beautiful quad HD display and a much bigger battery.
pgilc1 to dz1
19 Sep 17#28
The Mi Mix was a cut above anything else i've seen by Xiaomi in terms of quality and spec. Its a real flagship phone for them rather than a cheap clone of something else that was mid range to begin with.
I suspect the Mi Mix 2 is of the same vein - premium products mean premium costs too. Not helped of course by a weak pound
Its like Hyundai and KIA. Cheap as chips cars when its an average car with an average build quality. Once they started building good cars to a good quality then suddenly their prices are much closer to the class leaders.
RahulMacwan
23 Sep 17#60
If it's ceramic than its brittle watch verge on YouTube
deathtrap3000
21 Sep 17#58
Is this much improvement over the original mi mix? which can be had for about £380. That has a bigger screen and 256gb ROM.
pgilc1 to deathtrap3000
21 Sep 17#59
I've a Mi Mix and wouldnt upgrade to this personally. The Mi Mix has a ceramic shell which is a work of art frankly, and the 6.4 inch screen is amazing.
To me, a Mi Mix @ £380 is the better phone. I love mine. First Xiaomi i've had, having previously ran Samsungs
The nearest in size / capability to a Mi Mix is a Note 8 at twice the price.
Lowtrawler
21 Sep 17#57
In terms of tax and duty. I do believe that if you use non priority mail, you will be unlucky if you are charged. However, you need to be prepared for the eventuality. If you are still happy to buy from China with £100 of extra cost, go for it. With black Friday and Cyber Monday coming up, I would expect some of the flagship phone prices in the UK to be around £500 and so is this really such a good deal?
CaptainSocks
19 Sep 17#7
If this is stopped by customs (likely these days tbh) then:
VAT = £87
And the delivery company will also charge a fee for clearing this on top (be between £8-£13 usually).
So price is realistically £535.87.
Still cheap for the specs. But then no (realistic) warranty and no idea of build quality etc...
badboyofrock to CaptainSocks
19 Sep 17#8
Unlikely, in my experience and the experience of lots of others. According to the gov.uk website, it would be nowhere near your estimate.
I don't get how you think that government link says it will be less. The link says VAT and Duty will be payable. VAT is 20%.
badboyofrock to Lowtrawler
19 Sep 17#10
Again, from experience. The only time I've been charged was for a tablet that was approx £175. 2.5% plus the fee that you correctly state DHL will charge, is roughly equal to the £16 fee I incurred.
4Real2016 to badboyofrock
19 Sep 17#15
You got lucky, 2.5% is the charge for gifts over £135, the limit for goods over £135 is set by the type of goods being imported.
The total value of everything including import duty is added together and then charged VAT.
badboyofrock to 4Real2016
19 Sep 17#16
I guess I was lucky then. I recall the value being correct, but it could have been marked as a gift. It's a while ago to be honest.
CaptainSocks to Lowtrawler
19 Sep 17#13
Yep. Sounds like he's bang out of date or just got lucky.
This past couple of years absolutely everything I've imported from outside the EU has had 20% VAT applied. And that's a lot of stuff!
Looking forward to (eventually) paying VAT on goods imported from the EU soon and all!
Junaid26 to CaptainSocks
19 Sep 17#19
What delivery method have you been using on the imports?
pgilc1 to Junaid26
19 Sep 17#21
The wrong one clearly.
I imported a mi mix three months ago, just used standard mail, got it in less than 3 weeks, no import duty paid.
Junaid26 to pgilc1
19 Sep 17#52
Similar experiences here!
CaptainSocks to Junaid26
19 Sep 17#29
Tried them all now tbh.
You're not getting anything with a battery through customs in the UK from outside the EU without paying VAT on it these days regardless of delivery method.
If it's coming from inside the EU you're obviously all good (for now).
pgilc1 to CaptainSocks
19 Sep 17#33
Thats not my recent experience. Brought a Mi Mix in via banggood. No issues at all and no duty payable.
SClub to CaptainSocks
19 Sep 17#46
Simply not true in my experience.
Junaid26 to CaptainSocks
19 Sep 17#51
Weird. I brought a oneplus 3T from gearbest about a month ago and didn't get any charges.
dz1 to CaptainSocks
19 Sep 17#40
That's only true if they declare the true value of the phone on the packaging. I have never seen that happen. In my experience it's declared something low like $50 gift.
CaptainSocks to dz1
20 Sep 17#56
Good luck returning that if owt goes wrong...
alexus
19 Sep 17#39
Out of interest credit cards give more protection if any issues that I understand but wondered if pay via credit card via PayPal is that weakening my legal rights?
pgilc1 to alexus
19 Sep 17#43
It does weaken your legal rights, yes.
Pay with credit card if you can. Paypal will assist if there are issues but they arent liable per se. Also, if you do have to ship it back, google the guides on how to do it safely and with least risk and cost (and trackable)
4Real2016 to alexus
19 Sep 17#47
I don't use paypal for anything over £100, they do have their own protection but that's exactly what it is, once they say no its game over. With a credit card your basically getting another warranty backed by law, you don't even need to deal with the retailer, although its best practice to do so. If your section 75 claim gets denied by the credit card company you can pass it on to the financial ombudsman and they will make the decision.
Neilscoutb to alexus
19 Sep 17#54
Yep it weakens it as your contract is with PayPal not the seller
FREEZIN_WOLF to Neilscoutb
20 Sep 17#55
The question was, does using PayPal weaken the position of the consumer in comparison to using the protection that you get using a credit card.
Having an easily accessible credit card company effectively warrantying your goods is arguably much BETTER than dealing with the seller. But the question was about how comprehensive PayPals intervention is.
rdecoratorUK
19 Sep 17#36
no headphone jack - cold
pgilc1 to rdecoratorUK
19 Sep 17#37
So you're voting on the function of the phone, not the deal itself??
rdecoratorUK to pgilc1
19 Sep 17#53
on everything if its proorphone or something no matter how cheap its etc :smile:
retrend
19 Sep 17#48
Sad they made it smaller and worried about how long it will last after having my xiaomi phone radio die to a common bug after 10months.
pgilc1 to retrend
19 Sep 17#49
Yes, me too. :disappointed:
I'd have consider an upgrade to one at some point from my Mi Mix, but its 6.4 inches so dont want to go smaller
SCOUSEKEVIN
19 Sep 17#45
I Bought an Xiaomi phone last year,
battery packed up after 9 Months, trying to get it sorted was a long and
lengthy process which took Months.
Scary really if you are paying Hundreds of
Pounds to a Chinese based company makes it a lot more difficult to deal with
repairs refund etc
danflorin3
19 Sep 17#23
Better than S8?
pgilc1 to danflorin3
19 Sep 17#24
Better is subjective. Comparable, yes.
Its up to an individual as to what features appeal most and at what price.
danflorin3 to pgilc1
19 Sep 17#42
I mean, you can top up with 50£ and buy Samsung..warranty etc..
Eez1
19 Sep 17#41
Customs fees would be worth it for this badboy
Would need to have confidence in any warranty they provide though
dunc360
19 Sep 17#35
I got my Mi Max from Banggood in December for not much more than £120, how has the price of the new version more than doubled?
Hopefully the price will drop over time, no need to change phones any time soon
pgilc1 to dunc360
19 Sep 17#38
Because this is a Mi Mix 2, not a Mi MAX 2
Wholly different phone range.
humadoon
19 Sep 17#27
What will happen if something goes wrong with the phone?
CaptainSocks to humadoon
19 Sep 17#30
In my experience of buying from overseas - paperweight.
This is a decent Chinese brand though.
Tafkawac to CaptainSocks
19 Sep 17#34
As mentioned above. It'll be an expensive paperweight. Importing is great and there are terrific savings to be made, but it's a gamble. I've yet to hear of anyone who had a satisfactory return. "Yous pays your money, yous takes your chances"
pgilc1 to humadoon
19 Sep 17#31
Assuming its not been dropped and its an actual fault then if you bought it with a credit card, then your credit card company provide the warranty, if you bought via Paypal you will have some assistance from them but ultimately you arrange to return it to china, they repair or replace, and they send it back.
There are many guides online on how to do this safely and effectively, and trackable.
Its not risk free and its a lot more hassle than just returning it to your o2 shop or wherever locally.
Buckyball
19 Sep 17#18
Way to expensive for a phone that basically comes with no warranty,.
pgilc1 to Buckyball
19 Sep 17#22
No UK warranty but it still has a warranty. Also if you pay by credit card your credit card company become liable for the UK warranty.
Also most phones get dropped rather than go faulty themselves and no UK warranty covers that anyway.
RadiantDuck
19 Sep 17#17
If only it had a headphone jack, I'd have one.
drnkbeer
19 Sep 17#12
Hmmm it looks like a cracking phone, Band 20 as well meaning it supports 02/ GiffGaff 4G. Tempting.
saucymonk
19 Sep 17#5
Bargin! I like a reduced chin size....
badboyofrock to saucymonk
19 Sep 17#6
The best kind of chin size, in my opinion.
powerbrick
19 Sep 17#4
Warranty?
finnmaccool
19 Sep 17#3
Stealing Sam's glory.
gold3n_dragon
19 Sep 17#2
My next phone
badboyofrock
19 Sep 17#1
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12% reduced chin size
Hidden speaker & proximity sensor
Snapdragon 835, 6GB RAM
Sony IMX386 sensor, 1.25μm large pixels
4-axis optical image stabilization
Four-sided curved ceramic body
7-series aluminum alloy frame
Global LTE support, 6 modes 43 bands
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Latest comments (61)
The pound is in the toilet. Exchange rate has been pap since... well... you know. :wink:
I was getting 1.55 to 1.6 dollars to the pound right up until Wrexit.
The pound had greatly strengthened against most major currencies (except USD) by the Brexit vote.
They are cheaper and high quality just not "very cheap"
This is a nice phone but not that much better than the £180 bezel-less elephone S8 and that one has a beautiful quad HD display and a much bigger battery.
I suspect the Mi Mix 2 is of the same vein - premium products mean premium costs too. Not helped of course by a weak pound
Its like Hyundai and KIA. Cheap as chips cars when its an average car with an average build quality. Once they started building good cars to a good quality then suddenly their prices are much closer to the class leaders.
To me, a Mi Mix @ £380 is the better phone. I love mine. First Xiaomi i've had, having previously ran Samsungs
The nearest in size / capability to a Mi Mix is a Note 8 at twice the price.
VAT = £87
And the delivery company will also charge a fee for clearing this on top (be between £8-£13 usually).
So price is realistically £535.87.
Still cheap for the specs. But then no (realistic) warranty and no idea of build quality etc...
gov.uk/goo…uty
The total value of everything including import duty is added together and then charged VAT.
This past couple of years absolutely everything I've imported from outside the EU has had 20% VAT applied. And that's a lot of stuff!
Looking forward to (eventually) paying VAT on goods imported from the EU soon and all!
I imported a mi mix three months ago, just used standard mail, got it in less than 3 weeks, no import duty paid.
You're not getting anything with a battery through customs in the UK from outside the EU without paying VAT on it these days regardless of delivery method.
If it's coming from inside the EU you're obviously all good (for now).
Pay with credit card if you can. Paypal will assist if there are issues but they arent liable per se. Also, if you do have to ship it back, google the guides on how to do it safely and with least risk and cost (and trackable)
Having an easily accessible credit card company effectively warrantying your goods is arguably much BETTER than dealing with the seller. But the question was about how comprehensive PayPals intervention is.
I'd have consider an upgrade to one at some point from my Mi Mix, but its 6.4 inches so dont want to go smaller
Scary really if you are paying Hundreds of Pounds to a Chinese based company makes it a lot more difficult to deal with repairs refund etc
Its up to an individual as to what features appeal most and at what price.
Would need to have confidence in any warranty they provide though
Hopefully the price will drop over time, no need to change phones any time soon
Wholly different phone range.
This is a decent Chinese brand though.
As mentioned above. It'll be an expensive paperweight. Importing is great and there are terrific savings to be made, but it's a gamble. I've yet to hear of anyone who had a satisfactory return. "Yous pays your money, yous takes your chances"
There are many guides online on how to do this safely and effectively, and trackable.
Its not risk free and its a lot more hassle than just returning it to your o2 shop or wherever locally.
Also most phones get dropped rather than go faulty themselves and no UK warranty covers that anyway.
Tempting.
12% reduced chin size
Hidden speaker & proximity sensor
Snapdragon 835, 6GB RAM
Sony IMX386 sensor, 1.25μm large pixels
4-axis optical image stabilization
Four-sided curved ceramic body
7-series aluminum alloy frame
Global LTE support, 6 modes 43 bands
Use code BGMIX264 when logged in to get this price.