Why not just use your phone?

Never buy a tomtom product. I followed their instructions to the letter on a recommended update and it killed my satnav - they refused to repair so I will do what i promised them I would do and warn people at every opportunity.

Just saw this link and as my geriatric Start 25 could do with replacing I've just looked for reviews of this model - GULP - Too many negative reviews for it, you expect a few negative reviews but there's hundreds of dissatisfied customers for the 5100 .... Will give this one a miss!

I've had this model for few months last year but it had to go because of slow start from cold, it takes over a minute to fully load. Now I use LG G2 with Tom Tom app and 3 SIM loaded , attached to a magnetic mount and works well, only need to find matte screen protector and that will be it..

smart phone + waze :smile:

Halfords is the same price.

Would avoid looking at the most recent reviews they are nearly all 1 star.

Do yerself a favor and use Waze

Agree avoid Tom Tom. I've always used them and now stick with Google maps or waze

For me, this has the most accurate traffic updates and re routing then any smart phone map.

I think it's fair to say some people like using the phone, others would prefer a dedicated sat nav. Neither opinion is wrong. Just because one option works better for one person, doesn't mean it works for everyone. My great uncle for instance is much happier with a dedicated sat nav because he knows how to use it. There is no point confusing him by adding it to his phone, which he uses solely as a phone.

I have no real preference personally, as I use Google maps on my phone, but also have a sat nav in the car, so can choose what's best for me at the time. We are all free to make our own choices.....

Interesting comments. Have to say I have a TomTom 6 inch version of this with the traffic updates and its been one of my best purchases ever. Got fed up of using Waze on my phone ( massive battery drain too) and the hassle of putting it in the cradle etc every time.

Sat navs are so cheap now too that I leave mine permanently attached - no hassle of taking it off the window each time. Just get in and go.

Does this model have all of the same features as a Tom Tom 6200 apart from being 1" smaller in screen size?

I have a tom tom go 510 and it's taken me round spain, france, portugal twice, luxembourg, italy and a few more - never a problem - tried my phone a few times worked ok till signal dropped off

I got my niece a "basic" TomTom Start 25 (UK/Ireland Maps) and she absolutely loves it. Bit concerning about the updates killing the sat-nav though - these things update so regularly - once a week or more from what I can remember (I'm usually tasked with updating it for her as she's too busy/or can't be bothered).

As she's a typical teenager she likes to have her iphone free (and she tends to music via Bluetooth anyway), and of course there's the problems with phone battery drain.

I use both, google quite good now but what about data cost ?
Yes its ok in europe but what about rest of world
I know you can pre load mapping for 21 days but its
not as good as having it all there all time

Although my cars got inbuilt satnav, its just not up to my Tomtoms standards - the 'Go 600' with lifetime map updates, which I rely on for longer journeys.
Ive tried many different types of satnav over the years, but keep coming back to tomtom

BTW - Just updated the tomtom maps last week - a faultless procedure & nothing went wrong!
To update my cars mapping would cost £169!!

About 5 years ago I had a tomtom which had 1 years of data free with it - it was brilliant - at least for the 1st year, so this version with unlimted data seems an amazing deal.
Ive tried coupling my phone up with the Go 600 for the 'real time' traffic updates but its such a faff to do as well as quickly draining the phones battery

I also tried just using tomtom on the phone for a while which was fine if walking with it, but when driving its just so much easier if all the road info is presented on a bigger screen.
....well it is with my eyesight anyways :wink:


.... and I didnt realise you could use Google Maps to navigate with - that would probably use up all my monthly data across 1 journey

Had my tom tom xl for years,its been brilliant.As for google maps !!!! You drive through central london like i have to, its useless.

i use HERE maps and that can use offline downloaded maps, worked great in Florida but im sure theres ups and downs to every maps service out there

Will be interesting how companies like Tomtom et al adapt with Android Auto becoming common place now

I have this model and its rubbish. I have had a few Tom Toms and this model is the worst ever. Dont buy it.

For the most part yes you can use your phone as a sat nav but the only sat nav app that includes speed cameras, speed limits etc is Waze but that has annoying intrusive ads now. Apple maps has the speed limit but not the cameras...

My TomTom is slow and a bit cumbersome to use but no sat nav app comes close really. I use Apple maps for short journeys, sat nav for longer ones.

My TomTom failed when updating and now it's unusable. And the best thing TomTom wiped their hands and refused to either repair or replace it. Never again will I buy a TomTom product I just use Google maps on my mobile now.

Mine just arrived and also came with a tomtom hard case in the box, no mention of it in the order but nice little extra - just hope i dont have any of the issues mentjoned by the naysayers

Has this expired.