Looks like next generation plans, quite nice

Or just get a 3-2-1 sim from 3 and buy an add-on when abroad. I then put voicemail on my main number saying I'm out of the country and to dial my other number. 90% of friends and family have the other number anyway.

Are you saying you have to port in your number from Three Network for Wuntu to work?

Can confirm as long as you signed into Wuntu using a 3 number originally, it continues working with SMARTY. :sunglasses:

Tried doesnt work

Using a Samsung Galaxy S7 - works on all UK 4G frequencies.
The problem was most definitely EE's oversaturated 4G network.

I believe that, also the network calls quality are suffering for data transmission, Three does not suffer it, speeds on Three are way better for me.

Today outside my door via a Three MiFi

Now, indoors:

Three (100 miles server V 50 miles for EE)

EE

Anyone tested with Wuntu app yet?

Just ordered going test it out before I port out from my current network

Nice pop-up SIM card packaging!

Three network was down too till around an hour ago.

Sim arrived this morning. I have activated the sim without issues. Everything was fine until around 2ish when mobile internet went down. I reported via online chat and was informed that they have data outage at the moment and calls/texts were fine. Everything went back to normal at 21:15hrs....Hope this is not a regular thing.

One time I was getting data speed of around 30mbps

As with O2 Priority just activate it on a PAYG SIM then swap yours in later on, I have Wuntu running on both phones this way. It's nowhere near as good as O2 Priority (though they're removing good things from that weekly - £1 Monday lunches axed) but things like free Cineworld cinema tickets and Hotel Chocolat ice cream is worthwhile

Also anyone tested with Wuntu app yet? Assuming it will work but would be a bonus as had some good freebies of late.

Gonna give them a try - after the lack of empathy with 3 retentions team. The loss of Feel at home is the only issue but gonna go the local sim route. Getting locked to 3G speeds abroad is a joke.

*3001#12345#* - you have poor 4G or a phone that does not work on all EE 4G frequencies or both, but 3G coverage or handset dependent you are solid. I had a issue with EE when Orange roaming was still in place - it chose poor signal Orange 2/3G3G over the nearest EE/T-Mobile 3/4G base station as it was closer and less saturated than the 4G transmission - not that EE staff had a clue about any of it, trial and error worked it out, EE kept throwing me to poor signal Orange, I had to lock down manually to T-Mobile, when they integrated the phone not to roam I was threw on Orange constantly and it was very poor, at least the T-MobilEE base station was marginally better with less signal.

Eventually recently the EE tower at my old mans went 4G so he has great signal - they definitely have not put 4G on my local old Orange tower, they must assume the T-MobilEE one is enough, it's certainly not.

The *cough* 'full' integration of Orange sites has not added 4G to every site that EE didn't close down of old Orange stock as only EE 3G is served off my local EE transmitter but 4G
800mhz/1800mhz/2100mhz is available at home/in the area from Three from that old Orange base station since it was rolled into EE/Three backhaul MBNL.

EE is still a mess frankly, expect it to be more so since BT bought it.

I was with Vodafone, went to Three on my primary phone (which was so bad I disconnected in 8 days). I ended up on O2 and EE (for personal and business respectively, I found EE the best of those two in terms of speed and reliability - I know everyone has different experiences but EE has also got very efficient UK call centres, that's a big bonus for me, only had to call them once but it's better than repeating yourself 3 times over to someone who doesn't understand what you're asking...

You've used EE '4G' network then - it frequently has no data throughput.

Apparently, I had multiple 'faulty sim cards' and a 'faulty phone' :thinking:
The 'faulty phone' mysteriously works fine on other networks and even in EE on 3G mode :skull_crossbones:

Looks good, will certainly have a think about this when my contract is up with EE.

999/112 is still acceptable for those who are on payg, just tell the operator you have no credit.

Its worth noting that a 999/112 call will use any signal from any network so if you have no signal do still try call 999/112 as it may pick up one of the other 3 UK networks and process the call as if you had a 'home' network signal - also bear in mind emergency services cannot call you back - emergency 'roaming' calls only works for outgoing calls not incoming, so always call back 999/112 if you have to.

Replace the 8 with 3... 0345, most organisations took up the right to reserve the same number with the 8 to 3 digit change.

Handset dependent also, any 2100mhz (Three starting point in 2003) 3G signal has poor indoor penetration, a 900mhz/2100mhz 3/4G handset on Three is pointless for indoor as the 4G spectrum it bought was 800mhz and EE were forced to sell part of its 1800mhz spectrum for the Orange/T-Mobile merger which of course it sold to Three (Ofcom should have put it outside the other big 5).

People throw a sim in a phone from another network and expect it to perform like it did on the network it was purchased from and most 3G in the U.K. is in 2100mhz so it will work on the poorer indoor coverage 2100mhz but miss lower spectrum 3/4G.

Higher spectrum which is great for built up areas but not indoor penetration. 800/850/900Mhz is what you want for indoor - that's the reason UK iPhones work so well on all UK networks, and iPhone 5 suffered jumping networks from the providing network, access was limited to 3/4G networks like most other network supplied phones. Even buying sim free people don't look at the spectrum use bands on a phone, because all UK networks have 3G on 2100mhz - the poor signal for indoors.

In the US and AU networks and many other countries telcos openly tell customers what handsets work best where... rural/urban.


On a 4G/LTE iPhone dial *3001#12345#* it will open Field Test, open Serving Cell Info, Freq Band Indicator will show a number (3G will show UMTS not LTE on the field test page)


I jump between Band 20 800mhz and Band 3 180mhz indoors at home, generally I only get Band 1/2100mhz outdoors, and 1800mhz in built up areas - in the sticks Three generally connects to Band 20 as the signal travels further from city edges/rural base station transmissions.

Try a 3 payg sim ?

I don't know of any operator who asks you to buy an add-on to make calls to 0845, they all let you make them and charge you extra.

Unless you've got an old virgin deal that was unlimited everything including 0845/0870/0800 etc for £5 a month.

Wife has 2000mins, unlimited texts, 2gb data & 500 0845/0870 mins for £6 but doesn't use any of it.


Which again brings me to the question, how many people use their mobile now to call 0845 etc when you can use apps for free.


The only concern is 111 or 101 which you'd have to buy this add on for sale to call.

yes - my brother recently signed up and ported his number from 3

Tagging this for myself to sign up later. Seems a cracking deal for £10

I'm from Cumbria, says coverage is good. Just tried checking out with the sim. But it wants my card details. I wanted to check coverage before making payment but not taking the risk.

....... & London.. & Kent

Going to go with the one which is with ID (which uses 3 network) I reckon. Less minutes, less texts, same data, £6.

Sounds great but according to 3's website there's no coverage where I live. I'm only a few miles from Bolton and Wigan, surprised they don't reach me.

Well I've just taken a punt and ordered a £7.50 bundle just to try out and see if the signal is decent in SE London. Thought I would try before I help my parents port their numbers over etc and finding out it was utter garbage.

Ditto here in east east London (Havering)
Worst signal ever @ home

So tired that you're also very touchy?

Here is the cheapest handset I find for using on 3 Linky

Ffs just signed three £12/mth few weeks back.

70 down and 60 up in Brighton

North West WHAT! I live in this magical place called Scotland and even in countryside Three has been fine, like ANY network they have their not spots but I always found the ones people boast about having the best coverage having the worst where I needed it even in big city areas, or it had a reasonable signal but terrible congestion.

Point is theres no set thing for personal coverage.

I signed up for this over the weekend. Slick process and the speed and coverage is great so far! No hidden costs on sign up

You could get a free PAYG sim from three and see what it's like :smile:

Great deal will consider when my 3 contract is up

So is Three signal coverage improved in East London?


I used to always get weak signals or complete drop outs

EE here seem to manage capacity poorly, Three share the same base stations but speed and call quality seem to be better in Scotland, although the EE 2/3/4G coverage is better in the sticks but I've seen poor 2G EE and good Three 3G just off Scotlands motorways.

The the only en masse exceptions I find EE are much better than Three is Glasgow & Edinburgh where obviously there is a lot of money to be made by ensuring the network is superb in such built up populated area$

i might consider this when my three deal is up in november ...

I read up on capping... It's impossible to go over without logging in and buying a top-up. Just ordered one for my daughter :-)

I just read one of their support articles and you can use the SIM in any 3G/4G device

Says they don't! Loving this

Interesting....When did Google start that ?

I think you can now do do something with iPhones on a shared account - they mentioned it to me in support chat when I queried something.

Fair point with an iPhone, though u can password lock settings menu on an android phone

:grin:
Kids ain't stupid, if they are there is Google to find out how to change settings.

UK education is poor standard but not that poor, now as long as kids can read & write to fill out DWP forms the jobs a good ane, teaching others is to inspire regardless of family unit background - allegedly ??? :grin:

Care to point us towards the mobile operator who includes 0845 numbers in their £5/month package? I do note that they only charge 3ppm for their Access Charge for these numbers though, which is around a tenth of their rivals. Not bad at all.

Your phone?

Good deal, what could you use this with to make a car/hotel/tent hot-spot?

Really good offer, can see the £7.50 package being taken up by lots of parents for their children , gives them everything they would need , just be sure to cap the data as 2gb should be enough provided they are not watching YouTube videos on the go

Here's the other part of the conversation

I've just had an online chat conversation with their CS (which was answered very quickly by the way), to clarify the unused data. I've attached a screen shot of the conversation

Just been on the chat about the data.


You get a refund on any data you don't use in your plan off next months bill.


you DON'T get a refund on any data bought as an add-on BUT any unused data rolls over forever!!!!



This is brilliant!!!

The only concern is the Three network.

Other networks still have some OK retention deals BUT you have to pay for more than you need as the cost of going over is a extortionate!!

It is certainly worth some serious though.

£5 for unlimited calls & txt

£1.25 per gb of data.


If they gave you £5 credit for 0845, 111 etc. then I think they have a winning deal!

I gather they didn't build their own network so which network do they use

Better value than ID, hopefully we'll see some good offers from them to stir up the competition even more.

A good deal, unlimited texts & calls for £5 - I wonder if you can switch data off for young kids and throw the sim in a cheap 3/4G mobile.

Vodafone are launching a new MVNO called VOXI on September 8th with free data for the following social media apps: Facebook and Facebook Messenger, Instagram, WhatsApp, Pinterest, Snapchat, Twitter and Viber. So you may want to wait.

Ok. So why would you sign up for the £15 tariff and get a refund on the un-used data when it cost the same to buy the data from the lowest plan.

Unless you don't get a refund on the additional data you've bought and then don't use.

I'm that case you'd always be better off getting more data than you need and getting the refund than getting the cheapest and buying the extra.


Either way it's a brilliant concept!


I pay £13.55 for 20gb from virgin. Normally only use 1gb but there are occasions when I've used much more, so I'm paying for those odd occasions.

This sounds brilliant, would only be £7.50 or less a month but worst case £15 on a heavy month.

So it doesn't matter if I select the 2GB plan I can still just buy addons? This is brill

Sounds tempting coming from Three 321 PAYG user here... :nerd:

I will also give it a go

3, ID mobile,now this SMARTY

best data allowance, most minutes use abroad etc -
BUT poorest and weakest network coverage - especially in the North West - Lancs, Yorkshire, Cumbria - shame

sticking to BT

I wonder if you can port your number if you're already on Three?

Tethering is allowed.

Is tethering allowed with this? If so, these plans are better than the 'proper' 3 essential tariffs.

I'm very tempted to switch from Plusnet to this network. Even their £10 bundle might work out better value for me as the chances are that I'll not use up all 4GB of data.

Someone must be worried about the hurt from plusnet more competition can only be good.

Looks like Three own it, I guess in that sense it probably won't randomly shutdown any time soon :smile: Good deal.

I wonder if Three’s WiFi calling would work? I need it at home.

do they do credit check?

Interesting to know what the speeds are like, being the Three network. I find that they are usually the fastest for me; was faster than EE last time I was on the network.

If it is decent, then I'll make sure I let my friends and family know who are struggling with giffgaff's speeds

Sounds like a good deal.

Looks good

Thanks

Looks very clear, decent and honest deal..... very very interesting..... :thumbsup: