£480 Went Super HOT from eGlobal :rage: Or you got eGlobalcentral £462.99 :stuck_out_tongue: Never Purchased from these guys so i can see this deal going possible extremely freezing cold yet people trust eglobal so you probably should try Toby.
- Octa-core Processor - 64 GB, 4 GB RAM, microSD - 5.8" Quad HD+ Super AMOLED (2960x1440) 570 ppi - 12 MP Rear Camera - 8MP Front Camera - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (2.4/5GHz),VHT80 MU-MIMO,1024QAM - Bluetooth® v 5.0 (LE up to 2Mbps), ANT+, USB Type-C, NFC, Location (GPS, Galileo, Glonass, BeiDou) - UHQ 32-bit &DSD support (PCM: Up to 32 bits; DSD: DSD64/128) - 3000mAh - Android 7.0 (Nougat)
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Latest comments (58)
sam_of_london
5 Oct 17#58
Thieves. Cancelled my order but would not refund money. Stay away from these crooks.
sumpter
23 Sep 17#20
I would seriously recommend considering a Xiaomi phone for anyone who is in the habit of 2 year contracts on the latest android device. I went from an LG G6 to a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (£98) and I'm blown away. Has been on par with the G6 in every aspect other than camera. Sure you lose some functionality like NFC but I had never used this on the G6 anyway. Bearing in mind you can pick up £5/£10 month SIM contracts I will never be going back to a newly released phone!
Kensirstagwaff to sumpter
23 Sep 17#22
I have been espousing this to those around me for quite some time- for what most people want/need there's no reason to spend the amounts required on ' flagships ' , as good as they undoubtedly are . But users are on that renewal treadmill , advertising and peer pressure works (xiaomi isn't good enough for my teenagers ,bar one ) ,and then there's the distrust of imports . Your redmi spanks the similar priced offerings from the ' big ' brands ( as if Xiaomi isn't big ) as do several other makes .
justonemorepie to sumpter
23 Sep 17#26
Yep I agree with that. I'm currently using a Xiaomi Redmi Pro which has performed brilliantly for the last 9 months. Much better battery life than my other phone, a Nexus 6p, and dual SIM too. I won't be buying the latest flavour phone again. I'll stick to Chinese phones from now on and more likely Xiaomi.
sam_of_london to justonemorepie
2 Oct 17#57
Xioami have best UK 4G B20 band missing from most of their phones. I like Mi Mix 2 but currently it's too expensive. MI6 does not come with B20.
metronome
29 Sep 17#56
Hello I'd like to chime in here with some S75 facts:
1) Under MasterCard agreements, the buyer is responsible for making the goods 'Available for collection', i.e it's the retailer's responsibility to come and get them. After a reasonable time frame, eg a week you will consider them disposed of.
2) Where things get complicated, the Bank will usually require third party written evidence to prove that the item is faulty / counterfeit. A regular phone shop will not touch anything, so you will need to find an independent phone shop who will be willing to verify that the phone is suspect or suffering from a manufacturing problem.
3) You have 6 years to make a claim under S75.
4) You are better off never receiving the item under 'Goods not received' so you don't have the immense faff of point 2.
5) If you can claim a charge back route your 120 days to contest the goods don't start until 'Services have commenced' i.e when you have received the item by post. This is default route for banks and usual for debit card payments.
Misc. When importing phones make sure it's a global version otherwise you will have ROM issues where by it may not connect to the network correctly or may not receive updates...
topazz
22 Sep 17#13
Geez. As the months go by, HUKD is steadily going down in my estimation. These sort of 'deals' should not be allowed IMO. At the very least there needs to be a health warning outlining the potential risks in spending large amounts of cash purchasing goods from half way across the world. But money talks eh...??
AndyRoyd to topazz
23 Sep 17#14
Assuming the buyer can pay the merchant directly via UK credit card (like at EGC) then the supplier obligations are inherited by the UK credit card company; examples being no import VAT to pay, plus the indicated 12m warranty. This is true of any £100+ purchase paid directly to a merchant via UK credit card no matter where in the world the supplier is located, including UK. In this case: UK credit card S75 protection talks.
hottoast to AndyRoyd
23 Sep 17#15
Even if that is the case, it could take months to sort an issue out via your credit card company.
Additionally if you buy a phone that is subsequently faulty, the supplier will be entitled to it back for warranty work... Could be at least weeks before you get it back from a foreign supplier.
There are issues surrounding phone returns to China.
What if it gets lost in the post.... who do you claim from then? Royal Mail? Dhl? China post?
AndyRoyd to hottoast
23 Sep 17#16
To repeat / expand: the UK credit card co assumes all the merchant responsibilities from supply (inc lost in post) to warranty (manufacturing defect). There is also no need nor obligation to ever contact the merchant again once the credit card payment has been made. S75 claims are straightforward. CC companies often scratch heads with S75 claims, but the CC companies know that they are obliged to fulfill the legal obligations of S75 and it is unlikely the UK credit card companies would want to be seen to be dragging their feet and expose themselves to regulatory intervention.
jesper10 to AndyRoyd
23 Sep 17#21
To be fair, I had a hellish time returning a faulty S8 to Amazon.it (very few courier companies will touch a phone with a sealed battery, RM wouldn't even entertain it) and that's within the EU, I'd hate to try and get back to HK.
Eventually cost £63 to return (although this got refunded by Amazon) and hours of emails, so S75 protection or not...if things go wrong, the £100 saving may not be worth it.
rtd to jesper10
23 Sep 17#33
A Did you return phone to Amazon.it for a refund or repair?
jesper10 to rtd
24 Sep 17#52
Refund and replacement.
schnide to jesper10
23 Sep 17#41
Every time I've ever asked RM to post a phone with a battery that can't be removed and asking them to put a hazard label on it, I've been told it's fine as long as it's turned off. Different post offices, different staff too - always the same.
Had no issues returning a faulty 3DS to Amazon.es, but admittedly that may be like comparing chalk and cheese (or paella and pasta :joy: ).
RaiKush to jesper10
28 Sep 17#55
Really? I am surprised, I didn't have issues with FedEx
topazz to AndyRoyd
23 Sep 17#19
What you state is true. This and other factual guidance should be provided to potential buyers before they decide to go ahead and purchase from Chinese sellers.
Let's not avoid the fact there are other losers with these deals. Firstly, someone ultimately has to pick up the tab for credit card refunds caused by Chinese sellers saving costs by avoiding their responsibilities - and it isn't the credit card companies. Secondly, Chinese sellers and UK customers collude in avoiding having to pay import duties. It is one of the reasons why their low prices are so tempting. Honest UK based traders are losing out, as is the British taxpayer. The whole business is a legal and moral mess IMO and reflects badly on any organisation that makes money actively promoting it.
AndyRoyd to topazz
23 Sep 17#27
I understand CC companies reclaim the majority of S75 costs from the merchant via some terms in the merchant card processing agreement; obviously won't apply if the merchant ceases trading where the CC company may take the hit. Note example of EGC who typically state the customer has "no further import costs to pay." This is usually because the item is shipped to an intermediary in the UK prior to onward shuffle to the actual buyer - it is the intermediary who is liable for any import fees such as VAT, should HMRC decide fees are due, and presumably EGC has an arrangement with the intermediary.
topazz to AndyRoyd
23 Sep 17#38
I now understand that this seller will not accept direct payment by credit card. Only accepts via a third party like PayPal and Worldpay. I understand that protection from s75 is unclear at best but probably doesn't apply.
AndyRoyd to topazz
23 Sep 17#40
Direct CC payment to merchant is mandatory for S75 eligibility, so if direct CC payment is not an option via TD then obvsly S75 is not applicable. This is different to EGC who do accept direct CC payment (unless EGC systems have changed within the last 4 wks).
greenant to topazz
23 Sep 17#46
A HUKD mod deleted a deal I submitted for a well known legitimate UK-based company for bogus reasons and flagged my account, then they go and allow this. I'm thankful for those who do post deals but I havent the patience with them anymore.
abdi12346
25 Sep 17#54
But i do agree with some of these comments about HUKD being flooded with chinese site deals, Most of the Mods are providing deals from these sites on a regular basis i do not know if they are getting voucher codes or they are getting improved affiliate commision rates and been told to promote deals for them by management who knows.
westernise
24 Sep 17#51
I got stung with courier handling fees and tax last time I used eglobal central - so it worked out a lot more expensive than purchasing from UK. Live and learn.
brooklynbrawler to westernise
24 Sep 17#53
I have bought a few things from eGlobal and there has never, ever been a tax charge or courier handling fee. Most things ship directly from UK warehouse and ship with dpd. Either youre making this up or to give you the benefit of the doubt; it is not a case of 'live and learn' - their own sales terms state that you will not be charged import duty for any items they sell; so if you have indeed paid any, contact them; complain and make sure you get a refund;
Section 75. Suspect the truth is being stretched rather far in some posters' interpretation. Taken from Which? (and backed up by other sources) "Section 75 gives you the same rights against the card company as you have against the retailer.". This does not give a 12mth warranty if the retailer wasn't obliged to give one or refund import VAT (unless the seller claimed they would). Try and get it right people, stop spreading mistruths!
dreadzone101 to adam.mt
23 Sep 17#45
Can you point out the comment which is "spreading mistruths" and suggesting the opposite of what you're stating?
I can only see one comment that mentions S75, 12 month warranty and import VAT together, which says: "Assuming the buyer can pay the merchant directly via UK credit card (like at EGC) then the supplier obligations are inherited by the UK credit card company; examples being no import VAT to pay, plus the indicated 12m warranty. "
They're giving import VAT and 12m warranty as examples of "supplier obligations", because in this case these are things mentioned on their site. They're not suggesting S75 gives these things regardless of stated obligations.
adam.mt to dreadzone101
24 Sep 17#49
"Some posters" and that wasn't clear hence my comment. Fair point.
Do check that they take credit card directly and not through an intermediary.
Update: EGC (currently, according to their website) use PayPal so I suspect card providers are entitled to deny S75 claims.
crazy_b
22 Sep 17#9
Same company , there’s about 3 of them. No way would I spend near £500 on a phone with no warranty you must be mental if you do to save about £100. Sounds like a good price until something goes wrong with it.
asiot to crazy_b
23 Sep 17#18
if you have decent phone insurance then it shouldn't be a problem, my S7 i bought last year is a dual sim import and that broke and i just got it repaired on my phone insurance i have included with bank no problem at all
crazy_b to asiot
23 Sep 17#48
How much was the excess on bank insurance? Mines £50. So might as well paid the extra to start with
abdi12346
23 Sep 17#47
Sorry this deal was not meant to hurt anyone i just came across it and thought I’ll share, as per description
ebaysniper
22 Sep 17#11
hotHKdeal :grin:
seaniboy to ebaysniper
22 Sep 17#12
HotuKdeals
Wait till 2019, Amazon will have “Brexit” Warehouse Clearance - no returns on EU dispatched goods and import tax :grin: fools!
Aquaslim to seaniboy
23 Sep 17#44
Maybe that will happen in 2021 as it seems we gonna a transitional period for some 20 billion euros... :smile:
adam.mt
23 Sep 17#43
If anyone can prove me wrong please, please do. I'm not infallible...but do provide your proof.
You are legally required to pay VAT and duty on this purchase. Assuming this is not included (and there is no indication that it is, and no requirement), there is not much of deal left once you have paid those.
AndyRoyd to MrPuddington
23 Sep 17#39
If not pre-paid, the initial receiver may cover the import VAT, where the initial receiver is usually the UK-based intermediary who subsequently forwards the goods to TDs customer. Toby describes the effect to the end-recipient (customer) as "...By
purchasing a product through our site, customers outside Hong Kong
authorise Toby Deals to make arrangements of clearance of customs on
their behalf for the products they have ordered.
Our prices on our site are final and there won’t be any additional fees to pay when the product arrives..." Item 1.9 at tobydeals.com/en_…ns/
Rambojambo21
23 Sep 17#37
I bought my LG G Watch Sport for £350 from Eglobal and had no issues.
misterleoni
23 Sep 17#36
Seems irresponsible of HUKD to let these on here yet outright ban other things IMO. The only reason these deals are so cheap is because the companies are avoiding tax by mislabelling the goods. They usually offer their own ‘warranty’ to make up for the fact that Grey imports usually have none but these warranties seem to involve your device taking a trip overseas and a stupidly long wait that may or may not end up with your device being fixed or replaced.
Seems odd that HUKD should be so hot on banning some things but so slack when it comes to others.
kazimierzkozlowski1
23 Sep 17#34
I am not directing to anyone but somebody sent me message on fb offering me to put the Chinese deals on HUKD in return they would offer some discount codes. I think that's the reason we are seeing many Chinese deals on here.
abdi12346 to kazimierzkozlowski1
23 Sep 17#35
Definitely nothing like that offered to me yet :sunglasses:
BigBuds
23 Sep 17#29
has anyone read the reviews of this company? i would never spend this kind of money with a company like this. why hduk allow this company to advertise is beyond me.
AndyRoyd to BigBuds
23 Sep 17#31
One reason this may be "allowed" on HUKD is because most people are aware of S75 to benefit from the duplication of the merchant's supply and warranty obligations effected from UK at no additional cost to the buyer, regardless of the perception / location of the supplier.
alltaken123
23 Sep 17#30
If the link makes money for HUKD.....
pareshdc
23 Sep 17#28
No way buying from Chinese companies. They don't answer emails and have any warranties. Even when they sell from places like amazon!
tomhood98
23 Sep 17#25
Tobydeals has prepaid vat, I've used them before for a v20, no extra fees
philjstephenson
23 Sep 17#23
no
Kensirstagwaff to philjstephenson
23 Sep 17#24
To everything or something in particular?
abdi12346
23 Sep 17#17
Any Toby Deals customers here??
Gyre8
22 Sep 17#2
Ships from Hong Kong? Probably have Tax and Duty on top of that price.
japes to Gyre8
22 Sep 17#3
Put " RMA return £0 value" in your shopping address
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Opening post
Or you got eGlobalcentral £462.99 :stuck_out_tongue:
Never Purchased from these guys so i can see this deal going possible extremely freezing cold yet people trust eglobal so you probably should try Toby.
- 64 GB, 4 GB RAM, microSD
- 5.8" Quad HD+ Super AMOLED (2960x1440) 570 ppi
- 12 MP Rear Camera
- 8MP Front Camera
- Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (2.4/5GHz),VHT80 MU-MIMO,1024QAM
- Bluetooth® v 5.0 (LE up to 2Mbps), ANT+, USB Type-C, NFC, Location (GPS, Galileo, Glonass, BeiDou)
- UHQ 32-bit &DSD support (PCM: Up to 32 bits; DSD: DSD64/128)
- 3000mAh
- Android 7.0 (Nougat)
Latest comments (58)
1) Under MasterCard agreements, the buyer is responsible for making the goods 'Available for collection', i.e it's the retailer's responsibility to come and get them. After a reasonable time frame, eg a week you will consider them disposed of.
2) Where things get complicated, the Bank will usually require third party written evidence to prove that the item is faulty / counterfeit. A regular phone shop will not touch anything, so you will need to find an independent phone shop who will be willing to verify that the phone is suspect or suffering from a manufacturing problem.
3) You have 6 years to make a claim under S75.
4) You are better off never receiving the item under 'Goods not received' so you don't have the immense faff of point 2.
5) If you can claim a charge back route your 120 days to contest the goods don't start until 'Services have commenced' i.e when you have received the item by post. This is default route for banks and usual for debit card payments.
Misc. When importing phones make sure it's a global version otherwise you will have ROM issues where by it may not connect to the network correctly or may not receive updates...
Additionally if you buy a phone that is subsequently faulty, the supplier will be entitled to it back for warranty work... Could be at least weeks before you get it back from a foreign supplier.
There are issues surrounding phone returns to China.
What if it gets lost in the post.... who do you claim from then? Royal Mail? Dhl? China post?
Eventually cost £63 to return (although this got refunded by Amazon) and hours of emails, so S75 protection or not...if things go wrong, the £100 saving may not be worth it.
Did you return phone to Amazon.it for a refund or repair?
Had no issues returning a faulty 3DS to Amazon.es, but admittedly that may be like comparing chalk and cheese (or paella and pasta :joy: ).
Let's not avoid the fact there are other losers with these deals. Firstly, someone ultimately has to pick up the tab for credit card refunds caused by Chinese sellers saving costs by avoiding their responsibilities - and it isn't the credit card companies. Secondly, Chinese sellers and UK customers collude in avoiding having to pay import duties. It is one of the reasons why their low prices are so tempting. Honest UK based traders are losing out, as is the British taxpayer. The whole business is a legal and moral mess IMO and reflects badly on any organisation that makes money actively promoting it.
Note example of EGC who typically state the customer has "no further import costs to pay." This is usually because the item is shipped to an intermediary in the UK prior to onward shuffle to the actual buyer - it is the intermediary who is liable for any import fees such as VAT, should HMRC decide fees are due, and presumably EGC has an arrangement with the intermediary.
eglobalcentral.co.uk/ter…tml
See 17.1
I can only see one comment that mentions S75, 12 month warranty and import VAT together, which says: "Assuming the buyer can pay the merchant directly via UK credit card (like at EGC) then the supplier obligations are inherited by the UK credit card company; examples being no import VAT to pay, plus the indicated 12m warranty. "
They're giving import VAT and 12m warranty as examples of "supplier obligations", because in this case these are things mentioned on their site. They're not suggesting S75 gives these things regardless of stated obligations.
Do check that they take credit card directly and not through an intermediary.
Update: EGC (currently, according to their website) use PayPal so I suspect card providers are entitled to deny S75 claims.
Wait till 2019, Amazon will have “Brexit” Warehouse Clearance - no returns on EU dispatched goods and import tax :grin: fools!
which.co.uk/con…act
Item 1.9 at tobydeals.com/en_…ns/
Seems odd that HUKD should be so hot on banning some things but so slack when it comes to others.
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