I’m a fully paid up member of the misprice lottery. I’m also fully versed on in it to win it but knowing I might not.
However I’m pretty cheesed they took 2 weeks to acknowledge this.
rodrigeso
3 Oct 17#60
same with me, lol
beard7
3 Oct 17#59
Yup cancelled my order too
jamesallankynes
3 Oct 17#58
Just had an e-mail from Amazon.
"The price for `Sapphire 11265-01-20G Radeon NITRO+ RX 580 8GB GDDR5 DUAL HDMI / DVI-D / DUAL DP with backplate (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card' (ASIN: B071Y7CKM2) was displayed incorrectly when you placed your order..."
And it has now been cancelled. :disappointed:
Alza77
3 Oct 17#56
Any news on this? I preordered it on the 21st September and still no word from Amazon or Sapphire about when stock is due. Would hate to cancel it and lose out on the deal.
ckweston22 to Alza77
3 Oct 17#57
Well, for mine, I checked the order through the customer services link on the android app - it gave me an estimated delivery date of around Nov 29th :disappointed:
I ordered mine on 21/09 too so I would expect you'd get the same date. TBH I don't know whether to just cancel this and just get something cheaper for the time being... but then £208 is a decent price for this card... if it EVER turns up.
ckweston22
27 Sep 17#55
Well, here we are at the 27th Sept (one of the dates being rumoured) and still no news on this or the ridiculously cheap 580 Pulse so I guess on we go to the next rumoured availability date - mid-October.
Maybe I'm making a bit of a nuisance of myself but I've contacted Amazon who were unable to give me even a rough date so I've fired off a (polite) message to Sapphire to see if they know. Someone must know - its not like they're mining the raw materials, is it!
As you can tell, I'm quickly losing my patience...! :angry:
ccwjames
21 Sep 17#35
there is a rig for sale a few mins from me but wants over £2k and using 6gb cards. you should get money back if you sold in parts if worse comes to it i think my rig ( if cards come at price ) will be good price
just need to get risers and ram later that should be a max of £70
so under £1k for a rig
hopefully will be doing about 174-180m/h on eth. i dont pay for power as included in my rent and worked out at 16p and a guess of 1000w for the whole unit. will cost £115 a month to run.
should make 12-17 eth a year
Nate1492 to ccwjames
21 Sep 17#40
I mean, do you really think you can get 6x580 cards for the mistaken price of 105 quid? That's just wishful thinking at this point.
ccwjames to Nate1492
22 Sep 17#52
its not a mistake, its a confirmed pre order price and confirmed by amazon, if you read my post, but i do know what you mean :smile: remember its only 1 card per order (account)
i should make $3k a year from eth
Domislice to ccwjames
22 Sep 17#53
The chance of the £105 RX580 being delivered is small. It's not impossible but it's not very likely either.
1) The price is crazy low, particularly because of the type of product. It's obviously a mis-price.
2) Stock is non-existent everywhere and demand is very high. These cards are selling way above RRP in the marketplace, which of course you know. Why would Amazon be selling them hugely below that?
3) Being a "pre-order price" is no guarantee. If anything the delay in fulfilment gives Amazon more time to cancel orders, which is probably why they're not panic-cancelling.
4) Amazon customer services reps do not have in depth knowledge of products and their status, they only know what is on the system. The product may be due in at some point, but that doesn't mean the order can't be cancelled before then.
Nate1492 to ccwjames
22 Sep 17#54
Is this your first mis-price rodeo with Amazon?
I've jumped on probably 30 deals that were clearly mis-prices and I think I've only actually received 1 of them.
You seem to be under a couple dangerous thoughts....
1) You will not only get 1 of these cards at 102.50, but 6 of them (from different people you have buying?).
2) Crypto mining will not go up at all.
I'd suggest caution.
slyboy to ccwjames
21 Sep 17#48
Good luck finding 6 x 8gb gpus for anything less than 300 each. That is if they are in stock. It's a gamble to mine but I have built a cheap 4 gpu rig but only have two cards at the moment. As I said I am still waiting for the two other 570 4gb cards to show from amazon. I plan on mining eth and hopefully see the return in a few years. There are loads of calculators on the web to enter your setup.
pidgin
22 Sep 17#51
vega 11 apparently coming very soon, maybe thats why 580 has been unavailable. Clearing inventory.
gummby
22 Sep 17#49
Yeah looks like pretty much all RX580 are out of stock or above £300 with only 1-2 left.
1060 Nvida cards are just as over priced. Albeit some places seem to have good stock level. If your willing to pay £280-£320 for a 1060 card. Overclockers seem to have stock of many of them.
CoumbBarr2000 to gummby
22 Sep 17#50
OverclockersUK is a complete rip-off. Nearly everything on there is overpriced.
gummby
21 Sep 17#47
These amazon pre orders seem like ghost chase. I have not cancelled my order yet in case they are crazy enough to send it out at that price. It's RRP in US is over twice that.
I do think AMD will still be making these cards. Question of stock and supplying their main stockists so stock lasts more than 1-2 hours.
GamerJack95
21 Sep 17#15
How do these compare to their Nvidia equivalent?
CoumbBarr2000 to GamerJack95
21 Sep 17#46
Slightly faster in newer games and will very likely 'age' better i.e improve slightly in performance as time goes on.
silverhawk
21 Sep 17#21
Is it worth upgrading my Msi 980ti for this card?
dreamager to silverhawk
21 Sep 17#22
Great price for this card :grin: hope it turns up for you all
1070 Ti coming soon, perhaps price drops for regular 1070
I'm hoping the pulse order goes through in november.
taras to pidgin
21 Sep 17#42
offset by graphics memory hike :disappointed: soz
chapchap to pidgin
21 Sep 17#44
Really? What's going to happen to the 1080... it will be left out in the cold I guess.
batman15
21 Sep 17#43
whya all the mining crap ....if its that great why are so many e??t ????? selling them get a job ...:))))
polarbaba
21 Sep 17#41
Can buy direct from antminer for example... Remember to add customs!. Wait times are still many months and warranty is still pitiful.
genericjim101
21 Sep 17#39
Deal has expired.
polarbaba
21 Sep 17#37
Card 8 GB and over should be fine for mining but adjust your expectations accordingly. Eth and monero are profitable on AMD. Zcash/lbry/kekkak on Nvidia currently. Per card depending .. after electric bills you will make around 1 quid a day. Nvidia will make more. But also costs more to buy so it's not that simple. So there is money but it's very small and.you.have to play the long game. This will not make you rich. Yes ASIC miners make way more money but are specialised, cost way more (thousands )and have a 2-3 month wait and come with around 3 month warranty. And sound like a plane taking off! ....
zayf to polarbaba
21 Sep 17#38
When i was looking at them 2 years ago i could never find a trusted asic miner manufacturer that could give exact wait time for miners to deliver and i couldnt trust them anyway. There was one manufacturer in Manchester who made his custmers wait around an year and then i think refunded them money. Whats market like now. Any trusted sellers now ?
zayf
21 Sep 17#36
Wat coins can u mine with them ?. I thought only asics can mine now not graphic cards.
taras
21 Sep 17#34
the 470/570s will take longer to produce as they will be duff polaris chips
batman15
21 Sep 17#33
i have seen loads of mining rigs for sale just no dollar in it bloke on shpock tryin to sell 6 rx580 at 300 a pop haha...
Discente
21 Sep 17#32
£32.40 cheaper than my 18th Aug. pre-order...now I'm thinking, I'll never get this card. :poop: :angry:
slyboy
21 Sep 17#28
I have had two 570 on order with amazon for three months. No sign of them yet which really disappointing from amazon. If you do get the cards at the steal price then fair play. I have a mining rig with a 570 and a 480 running at around 50 MHs. Etherium is up and down at the moment.
jimbo001 to slyboy
21 Sep 17#31
Is it financially worthwhile having regards to set up costs/continuing bills?
How soon did you hit profit?
Joshm74
21 Sep 17#29
Joined the pre-order list as a hedge against my Pulse order not going through, thanks OP!
polarbaba
21 Sep 17#16
My theory is this Since miners are hoovering up all the cards and lower end cards are getting less and less profitable, they are becoming less desirable and even possibly selling like the 4gb cards. Also AMD want to push Vega cards so it doesn't look like much incentive for AMD to make such a effort for 4/5 series cards. Again.. just guessing
adam0812 to polarbaba
21 Sep 17#17
Vega cards are over twice as expensive as this, people in the market for a 580/1060 aren't gonna shell out that much more. Vega release has been an absolute hash, with AIB cards supposedly not coming until November now.
7777777 to polarbaba
21 Sep 17#27
I do not think AMD would be that stupid and failed to realise that keeping the gaming market dissatisfied for a long is going to cost them dearly. AMD is not selling graphic chips only , but also motherboard chipsets, cpu and other modules that are directly linked to the computer industry.
'Miners' are highly volatile customers as once the bubble is over there will be suddenly ZERO demand . At the same time, disgruntled gamers will seek other options (consoles ? ) and the AMD - neglected partners (such as motherboard manufacturers) will try to team up with competition, switch to other markets or shut down their businesses.
Miners do not buy AMD cpus or motherboards with their chipsests, they also won't buy that many hdd, sdds, monitors, cases,psus, memory chips etc. as the gamers do. The entire industry suffer because of this unexplained (well ,maybe speculators can give some explanations) craze.
ccwjames
21 Sep 17#25
you cant pre order any more pulse ones as they have reached their pre order limit i was told. if you doing mining ( im just started but 2 weeks watching you tube ) you need a min 4-6gb on some coins so i went straight for the 8gb to be good for 2-3 years. loads of videos about hash rates ect and some coins you can not mine now with 2gb cards. YES i hope i get all 6 ordered, thats £650 for 6 cards, when on pre order was £1400 . i dont mine waiting in a way but eth is up at present
my start
orig to ccwjames
21 Sep 17#26
all you need now is a hard hat and davy lamp :thumbsup:
mattd938
21 Sep 17#6
How does this compare to a 290 vapour x?
Joshimitsu91 to mattd938
21 Sep 17#24
Probably better but not £200 better, I would suggest reading some reviews and benchmarks.
LewisDowns
21 Sep 17#18
How does this compare to a rx470 4gb?? Thinking of upgrading to this just don't know if it's entirely worth it Ahaha! Thanks anyone who can help.
Lahn to LewisDowns
21 Sep 17#20
If you have a 470, there's not a big upgrade in getting a 480/580 - you need at least vega 56 / geforce 1070, and their prices are still quite inflated.
ccwjames
21 Sep 17#14
i have some of them cards coming via friends to build a mining rig. The pulse one. was £238 and then went silly down in price. I called amazon and was told cant pre order any more and the price is right BUT you cant get the card to NOVEMBER!
quote from live chat
Amit: I will be true with you, the reason, you are not able to order a new card is because it is out of stock. This product will be available in the month of November. That's the reason, you have been not charged for it,as Amazon charges the order, when it's ships. The amount that will be charged for it is GBP 102.50, as we have waived the shipping charges for it.
see my photo
janner66 to ccwjames
21 Sep 17#19
Are these cards still available to buy on Amazon? I can't see them.
ST3123
21 Sep 17#3
pretty good, but still not as good as the SAPPHIRE Pulse Radeon RX 580 8G for £102 they had the other day. About the same chance of getting it either way. Pre-ordered anyway.
Still don't fully understand why these cards are in such short supply even now though? I know miners have been buying them up but why don't the manufacturers up production to match? Can't be all that hard to produce since they are essentially rebadged RX480s. Seems stupid to me when they are in the business of selling them, yet they seem to have no interest in producing more of what is obviously an extremely popular and in demand item, they must be leaving tonnes of money on the table for eBay / Amazon resellers.
Come to think of it, they should go work at Nintendo :stuck_out_tongue: (NES Mini fiasco)....
taras to ST3123
21 Sep 17#7
it takes about 3 to 4 months to produce a chip from start to end .. plusif you want to increase production you have to fight for it .
ST3123 to taras
21 Sep 17#9
Still don't know why they aren't pushing harder though, some of them are big companies that surely must have some clout in their field. The fact is they have a hot property with the RX580, yet they just let it languish out of stock for months on end. Crappy way to treat their (and potential) customers IMHO...
thomps121 to ST3123
21 Sep 17#13
I might be wrong but i think they are sought after due to being the cards that come with the Apple Developer eGPU kit, so will be natively support by MAC OS High Sierra, after watching some youtube videos, if purchased with the correct case (wait until the higher voltage case is released this month, as that will allow you to charge a macbook at the same time).
1gratefulgraham
21 Sep 17#8
had this and the pulse on pre order since August 16th, not holding my breath and at the moment running on integrated graphics :disappointed:
pidgin to 1gratefulgraham
21 Sep 17#10
Same. I only play bad company 2 and trackmania 2 on PC (even when I had a gpu) and HD4600 plays both beautifully on 1600*900.
cynelic to 1gratefulgraham
21 Sep 17#12
I'm in the same position, my 280x died probably close to 5 weeks ago now, and just been waiting for something to grab. :cry:
ckweston22
21 Sep 17#11
Well I guess I'm in on this pre-order too then as I doubt they'll deliver on the Pulse for £102.50 that ive had on pre-order since Aug 16th! This Nitro+ has a better cooling solution than the Pulse as well as a higher clock speed but realistically there's probably only a couple of FPS in it.
As I've said before, I don't understand Amazon's strategy "selling" these cards. They get thousands of people pre-ordering just for them to sit and wait with no communication whatsoever. That doesn't strike me as good business practice but hey, I'm no expert, but I think it reflects badly on both parties (Amazon & AMD)
plewis00
21 Sep 17#2
This is the same card that was £102.50 the other day isn't it? I had it on back order since August
blueflash to plewis00
21 Sep 17#4
No that was pulse card, and now stuck not available due to pricing error
plewis00 to blueflash
21 Sep 17#5
I must've happened to order both by accident then. I couldn't see easily from my past orders but they look similar in the photos. Still not holding my breath.
darynquinn
21 Sep 17#1
£23 quid cheaper than they have the 4gb 570 on pre-order for
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3rd card Amazon has messed me about on.
I’m a fully paid up member of the misprice lottery. I’m also fully versed on in it to win it but knowing I might not.
However I’m pretty cheesed they took 2 weeks to acknowledge this.
"The price for `Sapphire 11265-01-20G Radeon NITRO+ RX 580 8GB GDDR5 DUAL HDMI / DVI-D / DUAL DP with backplate (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card' (ASIN: B071Y7CKM2) was displayed incorrectly when you placed your order..."
And it has now been cancelled. :disappointed:
I ordered mine on 21/09 too so I would expect you'd get the same date.
TBH I don't know whether to just cancel this and just get something cheaper for the time being... but then £208 is a decent price for this card... if it EVER turns up.
Maybe I'm making a bit of a nuisance of myself but I've contacted Amazon who were unable to give me even a rough date so I've fired off a (polite) message to Sapphire to see if they know. Someone must know - its not like they're mining the raw materials, is it!
As you can tell, I'm quickly losing my patience...! :angry:
you should get money back if you sold in parts if worse comes to it
i think my rig ( if cards come at price ) will be good price
so far shopping list is
Rig £38.77 (ebay) ( could of built for half that )
ATX PC Compute Motherboard Power Cable 2 Switch On/Off £0.99p
Msi Z270-A PRO Motherboard £94.99
Intel PentDC G4400 s1151 £44.99
1600watt psu £82.99
5 120cm fans were about £17.99
OLD 500gb sata drive free ( not going to buy a ssd as not needed)
6x pulse 8gb cards are about £642
£922.72
just need to get risers and ram later that should be a max of £70
so under £1k for a rig
hopefully will be doing about 174-180m/h on eth. i dont pay for power as included in my rent and worked out at 16p and a guess of 1000w for the whole unit. will cost £115 a month to run.
should make 12-17 eth a year
i should make $3k a year from eth
1) The price is crazy low, particularly because of the type of product. It's obviously a mis-price.
2) Stock is non-existent everywhere and demand is very high. These cards are selling way above RRP in the marketplace, which of course you know. Why would Amazon be selling them hugely below that?
3) Being a "pre-order price" is no guarantee. If anything the delay in fulfilment gives Amazon more time to cancel orders, which is probably why they're not panic-cancelling.
4) Amazon customer services reps do not have in depth knowledge of products and their status, they only know what is on the system. The product may be due in at some point, but that doesn't mean the order can't be cancelled before then.
I've jumped on probably 30 deals that were clearly mis-prices and I think I've only actually received 1 of them.
You seem to be under a couple dangerous thoughts....
1) You will not only get 1 of these cards at 102.50, but 6 of them (from different people you have buying?).
2) Crypto mining will not go up at all.
I'd suggest caution.
1060 Nvida cards are just as over priced. Albeit some places seem to have good stock level. If your willing to pay £280-£320 for a 1060 card. Overclockers seem to have stock of many of them.
I do think AMD will still be making these cards. Question of stock and supplying their main stockists so stock lasts more than 1-2 hours.
probs not gpu.userbenchmark.com/Com…923
I'm hoping the pulse order goes through in november.
Zcash/lbry/kekkak on Nvidia currently.
Per card depending .. after electric bills you will make around 1 quid a day. Nvidia will make more. But also costs more to buy so it's not that simple.
So there is money but it's very small and.you.have to play the long game.
This will not make you rich.
Yes ASIC miners make way more money but are specialised, cost way more (thousands )and have a 2-3 month wait and come with around 3 month warranty. And sound like a plane taking off! ....
There was one manufacturer in Manchester who made his custmers wait around an year and then i think refunded them money.
Whats market like now. Any trusted sellers now ?
I thought only asics can mine now not graphic cards.
How soon did you hit profit?
Since miners are hoovering up all the cards and lower end cards are getting less and less profitable, they are becoming less desirable and even possibly selling like the 4gb cards.
Also AMD want to push Vega cards so it doesn't look like much incentive for AMD to make such a effort for 4/5 series cards.
Again.. just guessing
'Miners' are highly volatile customers as once the bubble is over there will be suddenly ZERO demand . At the same time, disgruntled gamers will seek other options (consoles ? ) and the AMD - neglected partners (such as motherboard manufacturers) will try to team up with competition, switch to other markets or shut down their businesses.
Miners do not buy AMD cpus or motherboards with their chipsests, they also won't buy that many hdd, sdds, monitors, cases,psus, memory chips etc. as the gamers do. The entire industry suffer because of this unexplained (well ,maybe speculators can give some explanations) craze.
if you doing mining ( im just started but 2 weeks watching you tube ) you need a min 4-6gb on some coins so i went straight for the 8gb to be good for 2-3 years. loads of videos about hash rates ect and some coins you can not mine now with 2gb cards. YES i hope i get all 6 ordered, thats £650 for 6 cards, when on pre order was £1400 . i dont mine waiting in a way but eth is up at present
my start
The pulse one. was £238 and then went silly down in price. I called amazon and was told cant pre order any more and the price is right BUT you cant get the card to NOVEMBER!
quote from live chat
Amit: I will be true with you, the reason, you are not able to order a new card is because it is out of stock. This product will be available in the month of November. That's the reason, you have been not charged for it,as Amazon charges the order, when it's ships. The amount that will be charged for it is GBP 102.50, as we have waived the shipping charges for it.
see my photo
Still don't fully understand why these cards are in such short supply even now though? I know miners have been buying them up but why don't the manufacturers up production to match? Can't be all that hard to produce since they are essentially rebadged RX480s. Seems stupid to me when they are in the business of selling them, yet they seem to have no interest in producing more of what is obviously an extremely popular and in demand item, they must be leaving tonnes of money on the table for eBay / Amazon resellers.
Come to think of it, they should go work at Nintendo :stuck_out_tongue: (NES Mini fiasco)....
As I've said before, I don't understand Amazon's strategy "selling" these cards. They get thousands of people pre-ordering just for them to sit and wait with no communication whatsoever. That doesn't strike me as good business practice but hey, I'm no expert, but I think it reflects badly on both parties (Amazon & AMD)
amazon.co.uk/Sap…VDZ
I'm totally sure this won't get cancelled at all due to "stock" issues...