This is another 4 day test drive people may not be aware about, you don't need a business to secure this car, and much like the Seat one I posted ( if it was approved ) there's no costs and you simply pick the car up for the dealership.
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speculatrix
11 Sep 17#46
Unfortunately micro wind turbines just aren't efficient, it's just basic physics.
The great thing about a solar power plant is that worst case, it simply stops feeding power. you don't need to worry about a massive sunshine slick polluting the countryside! Or for a wind farm, the wind might leak out ;-)
swoosh007
9 Sep 17#13
Nuclear is "green" in that there is no carbon released whilst generating electricity. You just have to deal with the waste. We are using renewable energy more and more this is preferred. The emissions created at generation go up into the atmosphere. The emissions from vehicles are in our streets and affect our health. Electric motors are more efficient at converting energy into motion so do use less energy than a combustion engine. So yes, leccy cars are better for the environment.
Jimdabod to swoosh007
9 Sep 17#19
I'm sorry by suggesting nuclear is better to use is completely crazy...carbon free, yes, but radioactive waste is just as bad. I wouldnt want that stuff leeching out into our oceans or land...just because its not in the air its not bad. Cutting feeder rates on houses having solar panels etc is the government goin "green" they should be actively encouraging people to generate there own electric to charge there new "green" electric cars. Every new build house, should, by law have to have solar panels, But heaven forbid we upset the large power corporations less demand less profit!
JJ69 to Jimdabod
9 Sep 17#22
Where do you think the original fuel comes from? In time tech advances will allow us to reprocess so less and less is dumped ... like the landfill sites that are now being considered for 'remining' for their contents.
swoosh007 to Jimdabod
9 Sep 17#45
Just to bite the cherry presented...
Could you please compare the figures between the number of people who die every year in this country from radiation poisoning and those from traffic pollution. Exactly which one is causes more deaths?
You are fighting the wrong bit if the argument. Nuclear is preferred to fossil fuels at present, mainly because of the flick a switch demand/supply it offers. Obviously renewables are preferred, but seeing as an ICE is burning fossil fuels, then the electric car as an alternative is better.
I agree with solar panels in roofs, I also think micro wind turbines etc. Should be explored more, as should battery storage for homes.
villageidiotdan
9 Sep 17#44
I just worry about the environmental cost of disposing of my current ICE vehicle.
I don't think I could justify keeping it
darthvader666uk
9 Sep 17#3
I really want to swap out my diesel for an electric car. Got a few charge points near me. Tried to get on the scrappage scheme but my car is 4 months newer than the scheme allows! damn! have to wait 2 years until my finance is up.
hot from me OP, everyone should be dumping thier fossil fuel cars!
freebiehunter to darthvader666uk
9 Sep 17#6
You can always part-ex or VT and get out of your finance, there's always a way
darthvader666uk to freebiehunter
9 Sep 17#9
well the issue is my car is worth just under 2k and I have just under 4k finance so i will already start in negative equity. I want to at least "break even" or I will be paying more than i can afford :thinking:
Jimdabod to darthvader666uk
9 Sep 17#12
Replacing there fossil fuel cars... for fossil fuel generated electric, 1's. See my issue, if we really wanna start being green we should be pushing for wind hydro and solar electric rather than nuclear and coal! Phasing diesel cuts the immisions from the engine but the higher demand in electric means more power needing to be generated. Unless someone can enlighten me whose more clued up.
ndk82 to Jimdabod
9 Sep 17#18
Nearly all the power point providers generate the electricity usong renewable sources. For example ecotricity which supplies the supercharges along motorways use 100% green energy. ecotricity.co.uk/our…rgy
Jimdabod to ndk82
9 Sep 17#20
Thanks for clearing that up.... I didn't claim to be clued up on it I just hope it stays this way.... at the moment where I'm from there's not many charge points when everyone goes electric I just hope we keep our renewals in par with the rate of people changing to electric. Then I will admit it's definantly a good idea :smile:
darthvader666uk to Jimdabod
9 Sep 17#25
well i guess...though the government need to push wind / hydro / solar panels more. I have enquired about adding solar to my house but apparently my roof was too small :thinking: I 100% behind getting rid of coal and nuclear power but unfortunatly, theres too much moiney to be had by someone :disappointed:
Zameen to Jimdabod
9 Sep 17#29
Yep maybe if they put holes in the floor so you could push or run Fred Flintstone style when in traffic or maybe even pedal.
Uns to Jimdabod
9 Sep 17#39
Electricity in the UK is currently about 25% renewable and 25% nuclear so only 50% of electricity comes from fossil fuels, compared to a diesel/petrol engine which is 100%.
speculatrix to Uns
9 Sep 17#43
There have been a few days this year when renewables have been producing so much electricity that no conventional power stations were needed and the grid wholesale price became negative, ie you'd be paid to use electricity! Now, it's becoming cost effective for people to have a battery attached to their solar electricity panel array, and thus power their homes even after the sun goes down.
JSmooth to Jimdabod
9 Sep 17#40
Sure diesel cars pollute the atmosphere and cause death, electric cars don't. Electric cars are a step in the right direction clearly as pretty much all car manufacturers are creating them including small companies like morgan.
It's the governments job to ensure that we get more green fuels there is not much we can do here on Hot UK deals.
The argument of "well all energy has to come from somewhere" is getting a bit old now as that's obvious, but the transfer to greener energy is not going to be instant and all consumers moving to electric is also not going to be instant but it's all happening. So I guess we can be part of positive change for humanity or be against it.
Manny50
9 Sep 17#42
How do you book? Would I need to call, doubt they do it in leeds
Anna.Jones
9 Sep 17#41
It's still available.Just booked for next long weekend :thumbsup:
terriclarkfan
9 Sep 17#1
I expect this'll go cold, but that's fine - fewer people at the free rapid chargers near me. :wink:
fireman1 to terriclarkfan
9 Sep 17#34
The last thing you want is more people clogging up the 2 rapid chargers in your city. 3 electric car owners within a hundred square miles and the infrastructure crumbles! Sterling effort by a government that has vowed to be electric only in 20 years.
miaas to fireman1
9 Sep 17#38
Hybrids are still going to be allowed I thought, so won't need as many sockets
miaas
9 Sep 17#27
What happens to all the "green" cars when the batteries are knackered in 5 or whatever years time? The people that can afford new cars will just buy a new car and those that can only afford used cars will be walking as the batteries will be too expensive lol can these batteries be recycled? Theres talk of cheap servicing vs petrol/diesel but not if you factor in the cost of a battery surely?
welshblob to miaas
9 Sep 17#32
Generally these EV batteries are actually lasting much longer than was originally expected (not sure about the Leaf directly) and is much different from the incorrect public perception which is normally based on their mobile phone. Manufacturers are using active cooling/heating to ensure batteries are maintained at the right environmental conditions. Some don't necessarily allow for a full discharge / charge as they have found batteries perform better used within a 20% to 85% charge window and allows for some degradation to be masked from the end user. There are also warranties being issued on the powertrains which includes the batteries, for example 8 years / 100k. Of course after that is up there is still a big question as to their long term life and what that does to a used EV value. I expect in the longer term EV cars may be able to have a much longer usable life than ICE cars with proper maintenance. As for recycling batteries, there are companies being launched off the back of this in which they are looking to reuse them for power walls to be installed within people's homes and to compliment roadside EV chargers which allow them to be trickle charged constantly using a lower amperage supply and then provide a much higher amperage charge locally to a vehicle when connected. You should check out Robert LLewellyn's Fully Charged channel on youtube as he is covering all of this as we transition to EVs and its quite fascinating the effort going into the technology so expect newer more environmentally friendly battery tech to be introduced in the next few years.
miaas to welshblob
9 Sep 17#37
Thanks very much for the in depth explanation, much appreciated
cikki100
9 Sep 17#35
What is a ice car
TeamMCS to cikki100
9 Sep 17#36
internal combustion engine. Just an accronym someone cooked up for regular cars.
GDB2222
9 Sep 17#4
How practical is it to charge this car from a standard 13 amp socket?
terriclarkfan to GDB2222
9 Sep 17#5
Overnight. When we first got ours, we charged it from our outside lawn mower socket, until our home charger unit was installed. We've also charged it in a caravan site by running the supplied cable (about 8 metres long IIRC) out of the window overnight.
You aren't supposed to use a domestic reel extension cable as these often aren't designed to supply a high amp flow from a long period.
Zameen to terriclarkfan
9 Sep 17#31
What is your honest verdict of the car ?
terriclarkfan to Zameen
9 Sep 17#33
We've just bought/PCPed our second Leaf. I do typically 60 miles a day and the car suits our needs fine. We still have an ice car, but it barely moves.
The positive points of EVs are well rehearsed on other threads.
packard
9 Sep 17#30
Just get ready for a very very long sales pitch...
jbecker
9 Sep 17#7
This is for the old model not the new one in the picture. And I don't know about your local dealership but you'd be lucky to borrow a Leaf from Nissan Slough for a day let a lone four ! When we borrowed one a few years ago, head office had to request the loan, even then the manager had someone call us every day asking us to bring it back.
Zameen to jbecker
9 Sep 17#28
Lol sounds about right
terriclarkfan
9 Sep 17#10
@darthvader666uk Just to make the maths even more complicated, don't forget to take into account what you'll save in petrol and road tax and servicing with an electric car.
darthvader666uk to terriclarkfan
9 Sep 17#26
yes.................tbh i dont pay road tax now so a bonus and your right, service the current car has become crazy. Maybe ill pop into a dealer when i pass one...see what can be done :smile:
Rastafari
9 Sep 17#21
Being as the car in the picture was only announced 3 days ago, it'll be the old model you're test driving, not that one.
pelaquin to Rastafari
9 Sep 17#23
I just googled nissan leaf and used the first photo that came up, It wasn't added to mislead.
Rastafari to pelaquin
9 Sep 17#24
This is the existing model:
The model pictured in the OP has only just been announced and is expected to hit the UK in March 2018.
princessnataliefariss
9 Sep 17#14
After you have test drive the car do you have to buy it? Or can you give it back?. X
pelaquin to princessnataliefariss
9 Sep 17#15
You just give it back, no need to part with any money, you drop it off and that's literally it.
lumsdot to princessnataliefariss
9 Sep 17#17
neither , just say you cant remember where you parked it, and you can have it for free
HUX1
9 Sep 17#16
It was a week until about a year ago, not really a deal it's heavily advertised
SFconvert
9 Sep 17#11
Well worth trying one of these out, they are great to drive, more fun than the performance figures suggest. The silent running and instant torgue mean a quick blip of the accelerator and you are off, no fuss, no revving. These are the future. New leaf performance should be better too, as the motor is about 50% more powerful, so may be approaching hot hatch territory?
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The great thing about a solar power plant is that worst case, it simply stops feeding power. you don't need to worry about a massive sunshine slick polluting the countryside! Or for a wind farm, the wind might leak out ;-)
Could you please compare the figures between the number of people who die every year in this country from radiation poisoning and those from traffic pollution. Exactly which one is causes more deaths?
You are fighting the wrong bit if the argument. Nuclear is preferred to fossil fuels at present, mainly because of the flick a switch demand/supply it offers. Obviously renewables are preferred, but seeing as an ICE is burning fossil fuels, then the electric car as an alternative is better.
I agree with solar panels in roofs, I also think micro wind turbines etc. Should be explored more, as should battery storage for homes.
I don't think I could justify keeping it
hot from me OP, everyone should be dumping thier fossil fuel cars!
For example ecotricity which supplies the supercharges along motorways use 100% green energy.
ecotricity.co.uk/our…rgy
Now, it's becoming cost effective for people to have a battery attached to their solar electricity panel array, and thus power their homes even after the sun goes down.
It's the governments job to ensure that we get more green fuels there is not much we can do here on Hot UK deals.
The argument of "well all energy has to come from somewhere" is getting a bit old now as that's obvious, but the transfer to greener energy is not going to be instant and all consumers moving to electric is also not going to be instant but it's all happening. So I guess we can be part of positive change for humanity or be against it.
As for recycling batteries, there are companies being launched off the back of this in which they are looking to reuse them for power walls to be installed within people's homes and to compliment roadside EV chargers which allow them to be trickle charged constantly using a lower amperage supply and then provide a much higher amperage charge locally to a vehicle when connected.
You should check out Robert LLewellyn's Fully Charged channel on youtube as he is covering all of this as we transition to EVs and its quite fascinating the effort going into the technology so expect newer more environmentally friendly battery tech to be introduced in the next few years.
You aren't supposed to use a domestic reel extension cable as these often aren't designed to supply a high amp flow from a long period.
The positive points of EVs are well rehearsed on other threads.
The model pictured in the OP has only just been announced and is expected to hit the UK in March 2018.