Use meat5 to get another £5 off the meat pack with del to store. tem details 2 x Sirloin Steak (381g) 2 x Fillet Steak (300g) 4 x Aberdeen Angus Burger (454g) 2 x Aberdeen Angus Lean Mince (800g) 4 x Lamb Loin (360g) 12 x Rosé Veal Meatballs (300g) 1 x Beef Stirfry Strips (250g) 2 x Pork Saltimbocca (287g) Weight: 2218 g Suitable for Freezing: Yes Diet suitability: Gluten Free Please contact customer services on 0333 014 8555 for further product specific information including ingredients, allergens and nutrition declaration
Latest comments (45)
tek-monkey
25 Sep 17#37
How would you eliminate veal though? What would we do with all the male calves?
daytonaant to tek-monkey
29 Sep 17#42
Still "render" them through the food industry eventually but pay more for them as more matured animals meat - i.e. given more of a chance to live out a bit more natural life even if its minimum 2 years ? i.e. be less financially driven and more driven on basis of animal welfare.
Difficult concept I know since mankind despite wearing the occasional "animal lover" badge as requried, isn't really is it. Oh well never mind, wallet comes first.
LeeMunns to daytonaant
2 Oct 17#43
Two years makes all the difference???
daytonaant to LeeMunns
9 Oct 17#45
Im not sure if you are commenting on this from the animal welfair perspective its not long enough, or just in a negative dismissal fashion (which its easy for people to do and factor the wallet as the lowest common denominator.
But any movement towards better animal welfare is better than nothing at all, surely?
Perhaps look at it on the basis of your own life and after watching "Never let me go" too.....would you rather 2 years or being slaughtered immediately I wonder your answer. Ho hum.
snappycat
3 Oct 17#44
I would pay full price for this next time. The steak alone came to £20/going y packaging prices and it was gorgeous!
Jane2005
29 Sep 17#41
Just picked mine up. It’s seems fine. Not really a big meat eater, so it’s in the freezer. Should keep me going till next year. Thanks for posting this.
julie11
29 Sep 17#40
Husband just went to pick our box up, but there'd been a problem and the boxes hadn't arrived at the store. However, they gave him the (almost) equivalent items which they'd taken off their shelves, and gave him a full refund as well! Great service M&S! The only difference was that the meatballs were not rose veal, just the regular Aberdeen Angus ones. :sunglasses:
ericsson_10
28 Sep 17#39
food5 no longer works.
GazW1888
28 Sep 17#38
Pick my box up on Friday. Anyone picked theirs up yet?happy with the content?
lucas
23 Sep 17#1
Shame about the veal, too cruel even by my standards
luvsadealdealdeal to lucas
23 Sep 17#4
those meat balls sound a bit cruel as well
how many animals suffered?
tek-monkey to luvsadealdealdeal
23 Sep 17#8
6?
tek-monkey to lucas
23 Sep 17#7
Depends if its British, if so then TBH eating veal is a good thing as those calves would have simply been executed at birth otherwise. If it's not UK standards then no, wouldn't touch it. Especially if from the USA.
daytonaant to tek-monkey
25 Sep 17#33
Is veal predominately male calves then ? Even so, 26 weeks old when slaughtered, that truly is disgusting to think about, glad I'm not the one having to hold the gun and I just went a bit more towards vegitarianism. Voted stone cold for the veal.
tek-monkey to daytonaant
25 Sep 17#34
Well, yeah. Male cows are pointless to the dairy industry, if you consume dairy then you are responsible for half of all calves born getting executed immediately as they are useless to the farmers. Some get exported to be used as veal, they get awful lives as most countries have terrible welfare standards for veal (look at the USA as an example, and google veal crates). UK veal has better welfare standards, but British people don't eat veal so they are simply killed.
Being a vegetarian doesn't help whatsoever, you have to cut out dairy completely or you are part of the problem. If you eat veal they live to 26 weeks, if you don't then they get killed at birth or suffer abroad.
daytonaant to tek-monkey
25 Sep 17#36
Yes. Being pragmatic about it, a lot of animals are only bred because of the industry so exist because of it. On a parr with what you say about milk - I instantly realised when someone mentioned it me years ago when I was experimenting with vegitarianism, being vegetarian serves no part in animal welfair whatsoever, they wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for such an industry.
Sure, if you are vegie you should really drink goats milk or something too, if this has any impact. But who are we deluded ourselves, this is massive underinvested industry where change can only come about by funding and by regulations and its not popular to want to fund for better welfair is it ?
In that sense I'd rather be an ethical meat eater, ( and eat less meat where possible), and want to pay more to sustain that - and yes I would pay more to eliminate the veal from the industry and improve conditions, if I knew I was contributing somehow to somehow improving welfare ( not just marketing BS by supermarkets either, something real and tangible is important).
Pity we don't have a more direct purchasing from a freedom farm type initiative with interests of animals at heart, I would go for that ?
Sadly most people are too shallow to consider animal welfare the same way as they do humans though sadly, the price in the basket comes first, despite a large disposable incomes for lots of other things.
Hence buying meat in bulk / at a "deal" just isn't my prime concern and shouldn't be for others IMO, I think certain minimum welfare standards should be obligatory. Sad deal bro.
snappycat
24 Sep 17#27
The veal was an issue for me as well so I did a bit of research. To be fair if you drink milk you probably need to man up and acknowledge that boy calf's are a by-product and something has to happen to them. M&S only seem to sell rose veal which I'm assuming has to do with the colour - the meat has colour because they are not kept in darkness. The alternatives for all you milk drinkers are the calves are shipped abroad, where standards are not as high, or destroyed at birth. Personally I'm rethinking my aversion to veal because for me rose veal seems to be the most ethical alternative to the fact I can't, am unwilling to, give up milk.
tek-monkey to snappycat
25 Sep 17#35
I believe white veal is fed with a lack of some nutrients, which along with the inability to move makes their muscles very soft and pale?
Paulwhite69
24 Sep 17#31
I'm not desputing the fact dog food is a viable way to use the meat from baby boy cows but it makes more financial sense to the industry to use the meat for more of a premium product that we can eat without the stigma attached with veal.As snappy cat said if you drink milk we should probably man up to the facts. I include my self as I have never eaten veal but may try the rose veal one of the days.
takethatfan1978 to Paulwhite69
24 Sep 17#32
It’s down to the individual person if they want to worry about any stigma attached to it. :smile:
I buy veal regularly for my dogs along with lots of other varieties of meat. I have never eaten veal but thatssimply because it doesn’t appeal to me
Paulwhite69
24 Sep 17#26
Rose veal is British I think which uses the baby male calfs which are a by product of the milk industry as stated earlier which are killed within a few days of birth.At least they are not wasting them in dog food or such.From what I have seen there are no veal creates used in the process and that is why it is called Rose veal because it has had chance to see the light of day and move around in a pen.I have not tried any my self but would have that any day before the cruel white veal they have abroad. Is lamb not a baby sheep which can be the slaughted around the same age as veal?
takethatfan1978 to Paulwhite69
24 Sep 17#30
My dogs are raw fed and love veal!
bojangles
24 Sep 17#28
3kg of meat for £30? Think Ill stick to my local butcher
Gavin01 to bojangles
24 Sep 17#29
Was also thinking this is no way cheap
kjfrazer
24 Sep 17#19
What's the saving here?
Trane to kjfrazer
24 Sep 17#20
From £40 down to £30? I'm gonna guess it's roughly a £10 saving.
kjfrazer to Trane
24 Sep 17#25
10/10 for pedantry.
How much is this stuff individually?
paypeanuts
24 Sep 17#24
Ordered. Worth a try for £30. M&S meat is probably better than most supermarkets.
Opening post
tem details
2 x Sirloin Steak (381g)
2 x Fillet Steak (300g)
4 x Aberdeen Angus Burger (454g)
2 x Aberdeen Angus Lean Mince (800g)
4 x Lamb Loin (360g)
12 x Rosé Veal Meatballs (300g)
1 x Beef Stirfry Strips (250g)
2 x Pork Saltimbocca (287g)
Weight: 2218 g
Suitable for Freezing: Yes
Diet suitability: Gluten Free
Please contact customer services on 0333 014 8555 for further product specific information including ingredients, allergens and nutrition declaration
Latest comments (45)
Difficult concept I know since mankind despite wearing the occasional "animal lover" badge as requried, isn't really is it. Oh well never mind, wallet comes first.
But any movement towards better animal welfare is better than nothing at all, surely?
Perhaps look at it on the basis of your own life and after watching "Never let me go" too.....would you rather 2 years or being slaughtered immediately I wonder your answer. Ho hum.
how many animals suffered?
Being a vegetarian doesn't help whatsoever, you have to cut out dairy completely or you are part of the problem. If you eat veal they live to 26 weeks, if you don't then they get killed at birth or suffer abroad.
On a parr with what you say about milk - I instantly realised when someone mentioned it me years ago when I was experimenting with vegitarianism, being vegetarian serves no part in animal welfair whatsoever, they wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for such an industry.
Sure, if you are vegie you should really drink goats milk or something too, if this has any impact.
But who are we deluded ourselves, this is massive underinvested industry where change can only come about by funding and by regulations and its not popular to want to fund for better welfair is it ?
In that sense I'd rather be an ethical meat eater, ( and eat less meat where possible), and want to pay more to sustain that -
and yes I would pay more to eliminate the veal from the industry and improve conditions, if I knew I was contributing somehow to somehow improving welfare ( not just marketing BS by supermarkets either, something real and tangible is important).
Pity we don't have a more direct purchasing from a freedom farm type initiative with interests of animals at heart, I would go for that ?
Sadly most people are too shallow to consider animal welfare the same way as they do humans though sadly, the price in the basket comes first, despite a large disposable incomes for lots of other things.
Hence buying meat in bulk / at a "deal" just isn't my prime concern and shouldn't be for others IMO, I think certain minimum welfare standards should be obligatory. Sad deal bro.
I buy veal regularly for my dogs along with lots of other varieties of meat. I have never eaten veal but thatssimply because it doesn’t appeal to me
Think Ill stick to my local butcher
How much is this stuff individually?
Does anyone realise that veal in the UK is kept in the same miserable conditions as all other farm animals?