A heads-up that JDW will be knocking off 7.5% from all food and drink prices on Wednesday 20th September 2017 as part of their campaign on fairer VAT pricing.
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reindeer333
7 Sep 17#1
HUKD politics :face_with_monocle:
m5rcc to reindeer333
7 Sep 17#2
Aren't most posts political?! Enter any lease deal!
reindeer333 to m5rcc
7 Sep 17#3
True! This one more than most though :wink:
On another note, I wonder how many people will be taking the 21st off work?
Greene King have great promotions running including BOGOF on drinks and a regular 40% off mains. Not worth cooking with the 40% offer. Large mixed grill for under £6 and two pints for under £2.50.
dudea729 to backinstock
7 Sep 17#34
When did they last do that offer?
backinstock to dudea729
7 Sep 17#35
The BOGOF has been going on for a while (Hungry Horse and some Flaming Grill pubs at least) and is still going strong. Different times at different pubs - 5pm - 7pm or 8pm - 11pm for example.
Sign up for the email offers and 40% off mains is regular.
Best of luck asking any flavor of Government to be fair on anything......not just TAX the lower down the food chain you are..... the more your WILL be shafted :cry:
m5rcc to cburns
7 Sep 17#7
We should really be aiming to pay more tax, in general, rather than less. The majority of the countries with low tax rates are also some of the most unhappiest.
thrustmaster to m5rcc
7 Sep 17#10
That's not entirely true though is it? There are various types of tax of course however looking at many of the countries in this example it's a mixed bag.. uk.businessinsider.com/wef…10/
Heard a few people say in the past they'd like to pay more tax, should really be some sort of scheme whereby do-gooders can voluntarily increase their tax contributions for that extra feel good factor. I don't personally believe our tax money is well spent as things stand, perhaps if that changed I could agree to tax increases but at the moment the justification is just not there.
m5rcc to thrustmaster
7 Sep 17#11
Many of the countries on that list aren't exactly glowing example. Quite a few despot nations.
People often complain about a poor NHS, for example, and despite all UK governments past and present are poor managers of tax revenue, we still spend a hell of lot less than other nations on healthcare. Ask anyone "Do you want a better NHS" and they'll say yes. Ask them if they want to pay five pence in the Pound more, and they'll say no. Whilst the UK will never replicate a Scandinavian model, the UK at the moment, looks hell-bent at making it a tiny tax-haven island off mainland Europe that sells weapons of mass destruction to those willing to pay for it.
bonzobanana to m5rcc
7 Sep 17#17
The main issue is we have become a poorer country that has a trading deficit and is haemorrhaging money. Just taxing people more of their borrowed money isn't going to help as a population we need to vote for a party with proper economic policies and stop getting them to spend more money they haven't got. Something like £30,000 of debt for every person and with the EU wanting to add about £2,000 on top of that we need to start paying back the money we owe and start running a trading surplus. We should be taxing goods that are mainly imported more like electronics and perhaps removing tax from the service sector to influence how people spend their money. So I would agree with wetherspoons stance on tax it would be good for the economy as long as tax's were increased elsewhere. We just need to tackle the attitude of people that think they can buy a huge amount of imported goods without consequences. People seem to be disconnected from reality when it comes to economics. If you keep borrowing and sending that money abroad then obviously services in this country will suffer.
m5rcc to bonzobanana
7 Sep 17#26
And much poorer as a result of leaving (or attempting to leave) the EU. Pound Sterling is down 16.51% against the Euro since the EU Referendum and down 11.46% against the US Dollar.
It's worse than that I'm afraid. The UK is the most indebted country in the world. My point was that if people want better services then there is no other option that to charge higher taxes for it and/or charge a PAYG service for it.
People do not wish start paying back debt because they find money to be cheap and moral hazard in the UK allows them to splurge with little consequence due to weak bankruptcy laws.
A lot of things are taxed and maybe by leaving the EU we will have to pay an import tariff on everything anyhow if the UK relies on WTO rules (which by the way, does not cover services).
There will always be a trade deficit because this country no longer produces anything (other than those weapons of amss destruction we like to sell to our mates the Saudis)
flaxdoctor to m5rcc
7 Sep 17#13
Go ahead, you can pay as much tax as you like. Send them a cheque - they'll accept it, and you'll be ecstatic.
Governments know far better than we do how to spend the money we earn, after all.
m5rcc to flaxdoctor
7 Sep 17#16
You are missing the point.
And it is laughable if you think Governments know how spend money better than others!
Van1973 to flaxdoctor
7 Sep 17#18
That is exactly what should be said to all these "Celebs" who hark on about more pay for nurses etc!
The Government should set up a formal system to enable those who wish to "opt-in" to pay more tax - then we'd see how many of those so called celebs would put their money where their mouths are! The Tax rates should be seen as a minimum.
Apologies for the political rant - good deal, heat added!
jayonline85 to m5rcc
7 Sep 17#28
Happiness is a perception, we assume those people are unhappy. This is how we are conditioned to think. We can have a big car, a great job with lots of money but don't see much of family or friends but think we are still happy because we have lots of material things. Then there is the person who lives in a country that has lower tax rates, let's say Singapore, this person doesn't have as much money but has family and friends around him and they think they're happy too. So who's the happy one? What you see as unhappy may not seem that to someone else. Happiness is an inner perception not a reality :raised_hand:
Rastafari to jayonline85
7 Sep 17#30
It's very hard to be happy, living in Singapore. Too much pressure.
jcluk to cburns
7 Sep 17#32
Hardly! Those of us on lower incomes pay less tax now than we did 5 years ago as we get £4,500 more of our income tax free.
Zardoz
7 Sep 17#8
Do not a lot of other European countries have far lower VAT rates for hotels and restaurants. e.g. I believe Spain has a main VAT equivalent rate of 21% but only 10% for hotels and restaurants.
Cold, wetherspoons have got greedy this year and put their price up markedly.
Boycott.
MrMoneySavingExpert
7 Sep 17#14
Such a shame the food in there is only worth 7.5% of the price. Have a some heat though #microwaveheat :grin:
GGMI to MrMoneySavingExpert
7 Sep 17#15
To be fair, you have to take it for what it is, a lot of their food was good value for money (price comparable if not better than Mcdonalds with better layout) It's a shame they put their prices up so much in one go though.
cf15
7 Sep 17#19
love the chips here
soapyd
7 Sep 17#20
Wow... This thread got political as f*$k! This is a decent offer by the way. Heat
msharif911
7 Sep 17#21
I like Wetherspoons. As long as your expectations are realistic then no problem. I was there with my partner last night actually and we spoke about it. It is basically the McDonalds/Poundland of Pubs. If you keep that in mind then you wont be disappointed. We had a meal each with a drink (wine for her and Guinness for me) and it came to a bit over £12. Now I thought we were people who liked a bargain, if that is only going to get cheaper then its a thumbs up from me.
ovenables
7 Sep 17#22
Instead of a load of armchair political correspondants maybe keep the subject to the deal. Cheaper food and drink... Heat added.
jamesWHUFC
7 Sep 17#23
£1.84 for Bud Light. Bargain.
wildecat
7 Sep 17#24
It's stuff is horrid bar the drinks.
Thought I'd try again recently, coffee (latte) was horrible and roll/bap with sausage (wasn't even the type i'd ordered) tasted like plastic, not massively cheap either.
The same in Greggs is £2 but coffee is nice and breakfast roll fresh. McDonalds is about the same price as Wetherspoons but coffee is nice and food is ok.
cri
7 Sep 17#25
So if usually you spend £20 in wetherspoons, then on Wednesday you'll spend £1.50 less??? I understand how this is a political statement, but don't understand how is this a good deal
m5rcc to cri
7 Sep 17#27
Thank you for your contribution!
premierfella
7 Sep 17#29
Any price cut (even for one day) is of course good news, so heat added.
The political case doesn't make a lot of sense as i) VAT cut = increased demand is hardly something that only applies to hospitality and ii) given the national debt there is a stronger argument for "Tax Equality" being achieved by raising the 0% rate on supermarket food that they are comparing against! (not that I am suggesting that should happen either)
distroyinthemasses
7 Sep 17#31
Might not be so screwed had JD not bribed employees to vote leave.
Rastafari
7 Sep 17#33
Wetherspoons matched it's political stance on Brexit with it's clientele. Smart move.
stirling171295
7 Sep 17#36
Not Scotland though? Alright.
Ritchievalens
7 Sep 17#37
Wow 7.5%
ollie07
8 Sep 17#39
Should keep all the local day drinkers happy ! I myself will be working as many of the UK population will and won't be able to take up the amazing 1 day offer
I agree, The UK would be a better place if we had higher taxes. None of us really like paying taxes however its obvious we need more spending in the UK with things like the NHS. Things like VAT though should be lower as it affects all people including those on low incomes.
m5rcc
8 Sep 17#43
Depends how you see it. I see VAT to be progressive as consumers who spend more, pay more VAT.
jrandrews72
8 Sep 17#44
Obviously the more you spend the more you pay. However its an unfair tax for those on the lowest incomes as they pay a higher percentage of their income in VAT.
m5rcc
8 Sep 17#45
As I said, depends how you want to see VAT. Poorer people will state it's regressive, naturally.
soldierboy001
8 Sep 17#46
Spain has lower VAT rates for several commodities, but has VAT on food.
soldierboy001
8 Sep 17#47
Unfortunatly any offer always excludes some people because of their circumstances, but at least you will be earning and therefore able to take up their offer on a day you are not working at 7.5% or thereabouts more. what about the people in prison? they won't be able to take up this offer either.
soldierboy001
8 Sep 17#48
Yes I agrre and my thinking is that we should not pay tax on our earnings and only on VAT. VAT should be graded were essencials should be at a low rate and other items at a scaled up rate until you get to super luxury items at say 40%. This way tax dodgers would be a thing of the past. This along with impot duties on TV's, laptops, mobiles etc.would perhaps see the disappearance of must have for all and see us start spending sensably. cut down our personal dept. I remember a time that the wife ande mother of the family stayed at home and did things like cooking and housework and sent the kids off to school and welcomed them back and they all sat around theb table at night and at their meal together because TV if they had one did not start until 7.00PM. Ludo and snakes and ladder were the order of the day for entertainment unlessyou were well off enough to have Monopoly. Then things started to go bad and next door had a foreign holiday and you wanted one so the wife had to go out to work so you could have one. once the holiday was paid for you had some left over so you bought that TV that the Jones' had and next you had a phone etc. and that's how we got on that " Stairway to Heaven " we are all on today.
Oh I forgot, high earners would spend lot's and get taxed lot's because they spend more but it would be relevant to their spend. £100,000 for a Range Rover including VAT, what a winner for the government.
credington
9 Sep 17#49
Income tax is theft
bonzobanana
9 Sep 17#50
I voted to remain in the EU by the way but can see the long term benefit of leaving just the short term is not so good. The process of change is rarely smooth. There is no point just paying more taxes if the economy has a huge trading deficit. Just think of your own finances if you spend most of your money on imported goods and that money goes out of the economy it doesn't help much if you pay £50 extra a month in income taxes which the government also sends abroad too.
If you are going to increase taxes surely it makes more sense to make it taxes that also change how people spend their money so more money remains in the economy. Taxing people more drives up wages but we want to make it cheaper to produce goods and services in this country. Taxing goods and services wisely means you can still gain more tax revenue but actually have a positive effect on the economy. It's one of the benefits of leaving the EU will give us greater control of taxes.
We just need to make sure we do it wisely in order to repair our economy. We simply can't continue paying huge sums to Europe and also running a large trading deficit with them much of which goes to Germany where our main trading deficit is. If we do whether in or out of Europe we will become much poorer and with huge debts. In or out of Europe are both hugely negative for the British economy in the short term but leaving at least may have benefits in the long term. However the transition period may be rocky which is why I voted to remain.
We may not have the capacity to reinvent our economy and stay at the same wealth level in which case better to at least live within our means rather than build up huge debts which will be even harder to pay back if we become a poorer nation. You can't use income tax on its own to solve a huge trading deficit. Even if you use income tax to pay back national debt without tackling the trading deficit the British economy will contract and be heavily damaged.
ollie07
10 Sep 17#51
Myself used to work in a prison and they have many more privileges than just a 7.5% off !! And why talk so ridiculous regarding someone in prison ??? They've given up their right to have an evening out !! Their life choice at the time you fool !!!!
Mr.cool
11 Sep 17#52
Brewers Fayre , Now that is poor , the price is double and the so called food worse even then JD W! Oh and the beer is even worse ...
soldierboy001
11 Sep 17#53
Lighten up Ollie, and don't take life and posts to seriously.
XCAR2012
12 Sep 17#54
At least the offer doesn't coincide with 'Dole Day', that way the most of the 'locals' will have spent my taxes long before Wednesday comes around, giving the Income tax paying customers at bit back :raised_hand: Tax equality day ....yeah :sunglasses:
Zardoz
12 Sep 17#55
Yes, I know that, I meant that it was at a lower rate than their standard when eating out.
Calldean
20 Sep 17#56
You do know that drinks promotions in Scotland are illegal?
warlockuk
20 Sep 17#57
Same company that filled their pubs with pro-Brexit propaganda, presumably because they want to get around the pesky laws relating to employees. Now the currency's in the toilet they want to have a little cry about VAT.
schnide
20 Sep 17#58
Do-gooders? Are you able to explain to me why doing good in the world is worthy of a pithy, negative nickname? I've never really understood that.
Why do you think doing good is a bad thing? What kind of a person does it really take to say that?
Those kind of people seem to be the first to complain, and the last who actually want to do anything about it.
JamieD2016
20 Sep 17#59
Let me guess, you don't think we should be paying anything?
m5rcc
20 Sep 17#60
Probably the kinda of person who would happily have a member of their own family lose their job in order to get Brexit through...
jimbo23
20 Sep 17#61
As opposed to the Remainer clientele?
jimbo23
20 Sep 17#62
What pesky laws are they?
Lets look at current laws:
The minimum wage that discriminates against age... A 25 year old is entitled to £7.50 per hour, as where his/hers fellow 24 year old colleague is only entitled to £7.05, and a 20 year old £5.60. Zero hour contracts?
PsychoSonny
20 Sep 17#63
Not really. The top 10% of earners pay around 90% of the tax.
If you earn £50 k a year you pay a higher percentage of tax than someone earning £25k a year.
The higher up you are the more your taxed.
Rudess
20 Sep 17#64
Not spending a penny at a business whose owner is an enthusiastic Brexit supporter. Boycott them, Charles Tyrwhitt , Next and the insurance companies of Aaron Banks
ffa1
20 Sep 17#65
Scotland is included in the deal too. I've seen the signs up here.
jimbo23
20 Sep 17#66
90%+ Fishermen voted leave 58% of farmers polled voted leave
Are you going to boycott food too?
m5rcc
20 Sep 17#67
Really odd that statistic given the majority of famers rely on the EUs CAP
jimbo23
20 Sep 17#68
Think you'll find it killed most of the industry (especially Fishing). We had our own policy before which served us well.
m5rcc
20 Sep 17#69
Supermarkets killed the farmers by selling their products as loss leaders. Nothing to do with the EU.
The fishing industry could do better by actually marketing itself to the public and reducing prices. Who the hell pays £20/kg for cod?!
jimbo23
20 Sep 17#70
Not talking about the Supermarkets, that's a whole other subject. The post was relating to the referendum.
I'm guessing the huge majority of Fisherman voted leave due to the nonsense regulations. IE: Limitations on fishing in our own waters. Size limitations of fish, that once caught get thrown back dead anyway. Ridiculous.
m5rcc
20 Sep 17#71
Guessing would be about right: the UK’s share of the overall EU fishing catch has grown in the past decade and it now has the second largest catch of any country in the EU. Even if the UK left the EU, it wouldn’t necessarily mean that the situation would improve as many of the underlying issues that affect fisheries management would remain unchanged.
Rudess
20 Sep 17#72
Who will leavers blame when we are outside the EU? they need start looking for new scapegoats, clock is ticking
jimbo23
20 Sep 17#73
Well, yourself and I are merely speculating the reasons.
At the end of the day, the people whom are actually working in that environment and know the business inside out voted massively in favour of leave.
m5rcc
20 Sep 17#74
I have not speculated anything. I've relayed facts. (I do know the UK (and Brexiteers) are no longer interested in facts from experts).
As I said previously, the EU benefits both farmers and fisherman. In this case, the UK has signed up to the UN Law of the Sea Convention which allows countries to establish an Exclusive Economic Zone of up to 200 nautical miles from their coast. If the UK were to leave the EU, sure it can have control of all the fish which were within this zone. However, the same laws also require countries to ensure that fish stocks are conserved and that the allowable catch is specified and where necessary shared with other countries.
Going for say the Norway model, post-Brexit, won't work either as Norway already have this 200 nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone in place, they also have agreements with a number of countries, and with the EU to allow fishing in those waters.
jimbo23
20 Sep 17#75
The remainers for signing away so much of this country, and it taking 40 years for us to get a vote on the matter? A flag (planted on almost everything), a currency, a parliament, an anthem, an un-elected president (corrupt at that), forthcoming EU army? The remainer who lead the most ridiculous referendum campaign? Or the Remainer, who decided to not be a remainer anymore and suddenly turn to hard Brexit?
m5rcc
20 Sep 17#76
An unelected president? A factually incorrect statement.
Well obvioulsy it doesnt does it, otherwise they wouldnt have voted 90%+ in favour of leaving!?
Harry_Krishna
20 Sep 17#78
Wetherspoons are drab, soulless drinking pits which are killing off traditional community pubs, and this is another right-wing PR stunt by their fat-faced, mullet-headed cretin of an owner. That said, I'll be passing one later and a cheap pint is a cheap pint, so thanks for the heads-up!
m5rcc
20 Sep 17#79
Doesn't mean they are right, though. Does it?
jimbo23
20 Sep 17#80
Well I didn't get a chance to vote for him... He was ransacked from this own country due to corruption allegations.
No EU army here...
m5rcc
20 Sep 17#81
You voted him indirectly by voting in a General Election in the UK.
Nice Photoshop work! :raised_hand:
Rudess
20 Sep 17#82
Facts? experts? Leavers not interested in anything that gets in the way of their fantasies ;-)
robbrown4891
20 Sep 17#83
Remoaners everywhere
jimbo23 to robbrown4891
20 Sep 17#84
Yep. Funny how they high jack stuff like this, yet when fantastic deals strike, they remain silent :smile:
jimbo23 to jimbo23
20 Sep 17#85
No Photoshop here as much as you want to believe it is.
luvsadealdealdeal to jimbo23
20 Sep 17#86
7.5% is just the head on my real ale :disappointed:
Rudess to jimbo23
20 Sep 17#89
Is that the same money tree used by Tories to bribe the DUP with over £1bn ? I thought so
truffle6969
20 Sep 17#87
???
DingIs to truffle6969
20 Sep 17#95
Lol, loads of whining about brexit, tax, despots and WMD...
Anyone fancy a pint?
muckspreader1
20 Sep 17#88
Comrade corbyn will rescue us all with his free money tree and houses for all apart from those who want to work for it.
luvsadealdealdeal to muckspreader1
20 Sep 17#92
Since all Scotch drink like fish, you'd have thought that means any promotion would still be OK
Bushes to luvsadealdealdeal
20 Sep 17#94
I'll be honest, I love spoons. Usually great ale at affordable prices. But Tim Martin can stick his hard done by moaning up his jacksey. Ever since his whingeing about spoons were being picked on after his staff were serving alcohol to the under age I have had little respect for him. He has successfully cornered a market, and it's never enough for the greedy barsteward.
Spoons staff are great (the ones who don't sell alcohol to kids), pay them more you sod.
rkingphoto
20 Sep 17#90
Only multi drinks promotions are illegal, this one wouldn't be, it's simply a price decrease.
Calldean
20 Sep 17#91
Nope. Any drinks promotion.
Which includes temporary price reductions, happy hours etc and minimum prices. Basically, anything that encourages you to drink more than "normal".
johnsmith1997
20 Sep 17#93
flavor?? or flavour??
This is HotUKDeals not HotUSDeals,UK spellings plz. :stuck_out_tongue:
muckspreader1
21 Sep 17#96
Not a bad price for keeping loony liebour out of power before he can take us back to the 70s with a crippled country.
m5rcc
21 Sep 17#97
Again - refer to the link I posted earlier.
rkingphoto
21 Sep 17#98
72 hoiurs is the the tineline between drinks pricing so this wouldn't be OK in Scotland, apparently. Mimimum pricing only applies to off sales multi packs.
schnide to rkingphoto
21 Sep 17#103
Are you really saying that with a straight face?
Did you miss the part where I ridiculed you for cherrypicking, and yet you do exactly that directly again in your reply?
schnide
21 Sep 17#99
Ooh, fun with cherrypicking! Can you get some photos from the same event and show me another person who looks just like that?
If you want to play the same game and have people pick out stereotypical Brexiteers, I'm pretty sure we both know who's going to come out worse.
jimbo23 to schnide
21 Sep 17#101
Have a look on Youtube at the remainer protests in London. It doesn't take long to find them.
You will see many who can't even answer simply questions about the EU when interviewed.
It seems to be a common theme with you lot, you think you are high and mighty and a cut above the rest. I know people who can speak several languages, lawyers, BDM's whom voted leave.
schnide
21 Sep 17#100
Nah, sorry. I'm spending less at the moment because our economy might be down the sh*tter in a few years.
Dull that politics, isn't it? Except when it has a real effect on your life.
You know, like.. every single day.
jimbo23
21 Sep 17#102
So, you're looking into a crystal ball too?
- Unemployment is the lowest it has been in 40 years. The likes of Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy are floating around 22%+ unemployment, with youth unemployment at a staggering ~50%.... - Retail spending is up - Record levels of investment - Lower value pound (even though it's climbed considerably since the referendum) boosts manufacturing and export. In fact the pound-dollar exchange rate was at $1.50 prior to the referendum. Yet $1.70 the year before, so being a full member of the EU - it still was dropping, be it slowly.
We have not seen the doom and gloom you lot predicted, even HSBC has had to retract is valuations, stating that they got it completely wrong.
Do carry on though...
schnide
21 Sep 17#104
Dude (aside from the fact that you are cherrypicking yet again), this is going to blow your mind, but..
We haven't left the EU and Brexit hasn't happened yet.
If you get stuck on how to come back on this one, keep going back to that sentence in bold until you get it.
jimbo23
21 Sep 17#105
Aww bless, getting your knickers in a twist..
If you paid attention, I was focusing more on the exchange rate side of things.
schnide to jimbo23
21 Sep 17#107
Could you avoid the ad hominems instead of ignoring the questions?
You can focus on the exchange rate if you like, but you have to focus on both sides of it unless you're deliberately trying to be misleading. Imports are, of course, far more expensive.
I don't remember you responding to my post that was made prior to today either, but.. in the meantime, do you know what's happened to existing staff in the NHS from the EU and the number of applications made since the vote? And that's just something I already knew about rather than rushing to Google to find things to counter your bullet points.
Let's pretend you'd usually trust those employments figures if you weren't trying to (ahem) employ them in an argument for Brexit. Let's also pretend that zero hour contracts aren't helping to prop them up, that they're good for people on the ground and that they didn't hit record numbers this year.
How are you going to replace the staff in the NHS which no-one is saying is in fantastic (ahem, again) health?
(Note: I must have a crystal ball because I was one of the "Remoaners" who wanted to stay in to help protect our NHS, which money alone cannot and will not save.. even before you pull out that ridiculous £350m a week figure which so many people fell for).
DingIs to schnide
21 Sep 17#108
How about this....
IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT BREXIT!!!!
Too subtle?
m5rcc to DingIs
22 Sep 17#109
How ironic for you to say that when you yourself have no idea how the concept works!
schnide to m5rcc
22 Sep 17#110
In case this helps, you're arguing with someone whose avatar is a lion and the Union Jack sitting majestically together.
It's hard to debate on facts with someone who insists on living in a fictional version of reality, on what this country really is and where they think they can take us to.
schnide to schnide
23 Sep 17#111
Hey, you remember those glowing export figures you mentioned?
More of your fantasy, I'm afraid. Is there any fact that would help you realise how dangerous and reckless this whole endeavour is, or is the power of jingoism just too darn strong for you?
These aren't stories I'm looking for to try and argue with you on by the way, it's just me reading the news. Is the reality setting in yet?
jimbo23
21 Sep 17#106
You lot are constantly ridiculing people, writing Anti-Brexit related comments on non-relevant posts (like on this topic) - it's getting REALLY boring. I even read a woman blaming Brexit for the death of her dog the other day (no joke).
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On another note, I wonder how many people will be taking the 21st off work?
Greene King have great promotions running including BOGOF on drinks and a regular 40% off mains. Not worth cooking with the 40% offer. Large mixed grill for under £6 and two pints for under £2.50.
Sign up for the email offers and 40% off mains is regular.
Check out your locals...........
greeneking.co.uk/
For example - Hungry Horse.
hungryhorse.co.uk/signup
Flaming Grill.
flaminggrillpubs.com/ema…up/
etc.
the lower down the food chain you are..... the more your WILL be shafted :cry:
There are various types of tax of course however looking at many of the countries in this example it's a mixed bag..
uk.businessinsider.com/wef…10/
Heard a few people say in the past they'd like to pay more tax, should really be some sort of scheme whereby do-gooders can voluntarily increase their tax contributions for that extra feel good factor. I don't personally believe our tax money is well spent as things stand, perhaps if that changed I could agree to tax increases but at the moment the justification is just not there.
People often complain about a poor NHS, for example, and despite all UK governments past and present are poor managers of tax revenue, we still spend a hell of lot less than other nations on healthcare. Ask anyone "Do you want a better NHS" and they'll say yes. Ask them if they want to pay five pence in the Pound more, and they'll say no. Whilst the UK will never replicate a Scandinavian model, the UK at the moment, looks hell-bent at making it a tiny tax-haven island off mainland Europe that sells weapons of mass destruction to those willing to pay for it.
It's worse than that I'm afraid. The UK is the most indebted country in the world. My point was that if people want better services then there is no other option that to charge higher taxes for it and/or charge a PAYG service for it.
People do not wish start paying back debt because they find money to be cheap and moral hazard in the UK allows them to splurge with little consequence due to weak bankruptcy laws.
A lot of things are taxed and maybe by leaving the EU we will have to pay an import tariff on everything anyhow if the UK relies on WTO rules (which by the way, does not cover services).
There will always be a trade deficit because this country no longer produces anything (other than those weapons of amss destruction we like to sell to our mates the Saudis)
Governments know far better than we do how to spend the money we earn, after all.
And it is laughable if you think Governments know how spend money better than others!
The Government should set up a formal system to enable those who wish to "opt-in" to pay more tax - then we'd see how many of those so called celebs would put their money where their mouths are! The Tax rates should be seen as a minimum.
Apologies for the political rant - good deal, heat added!
e.g. I believe Spain has a main VAT equivalent rate of 21% but only 10% for hotels and restaurants.
Boycott.
Thought I'd try again recently, coffee (latte) was horrible and roll/bap with sausage (wasn't even the type i'd ordered) tasted like plastic, not massively cheap either.
The same in Greggs is £2 but coffee is nice and breakfast roll fresh.
McDonalds is about the same price as Wetherspoons but coffee is nice and food is ok.
The political case doesn't make a lot of sense as i) VAT cut = increased demand is hardly something that only applies to hospitality and ii) given the national debt there is a stronger argument for "Tax Equality" being achieved by raising the 0% rate on supermarket food that they are comparing against! (not that I am suggesting that should happen either)
I remember a time that the wife ande mother of the family stayed at home and did things like cooking and housework and sent the kids off to school and welcomed them back and they all sat around theb table at night and at their meal together because TV if they had one did not start until 7.00PM. Ludo and snakes and ladder were the order of the day for entertainment unlessyou were well off enough to have Monopoly. Then things started to go bad and next door had a foreign holiday and you wanted one so the wife had to go out to work so you could have one. once the holiday was paid for you had some left over so you bought that TV that the Jones' had and next you had a phone etc. and that's how we got on that " Stairway to Heaven " we are all on today.
Oh I forgot, high earners would spend lot's and get taxed lot's because they spend more but it would be relevant to their spend. £100,000 for a Range Rover including VAT, what a winner for the government.
If you are going to increase taxes surely it makes more sense to make it taxes that also change how people spend their money so more money remains in the economy. Taxing people more drives up wages but we want to make it cheaper to produce goods and services in this country. Taxing goods and services wisely means you can still gain more tax revenue but actually have a positive effect on the economy. It's one of the benefits of leaving the EU will give us greater control of taxes.
We just need to make sure we do it wisely in order to repair our economy. We simply can't continue paying huge sums to Europe and also running a large trading deficit with them much of which goes to Germany where our main trading deficit is. If we do whether in or out of Europe we will become much poorer and with huge debts. In or out of Europe are both hugely negative for the British economy in the short term but leaving at least may have benefits in the long term. However the transition period may be rocky which is why I voted to remain.
We may not have the capacity to reinvent our economy and stay at the same wealth level in which case better to at least live within our means rather than build up huge debts which will be even harder to pay back if we become a poorer nation. You can't use income tax on its own to solve a huge trading deficit. Even if you use income tax to pay back national debt without tackling the trading deficit the British economy will contract and be heavily damaged.
And why talk so ridiculous regarding someone in prison ??? They've given up their right to have an evening out !! Their life choice at the time you fool !!!!
Oh and the beer is even worse ...
Why do you think doing good is a bad thing? What kind of a person does it really take to say that?
Those kind of people seem to be the first to complain, and the last who actually want to do anything about it.
Lets look at current laws:
The minimum wage that discriminates against age...
A 25 year old is entitled to £7.50 per hour, as where his/hers fellow 24 year old colleague is only entitled to £7.05, and a 20 year old £5.60.
Zero hour contracts?
If you earn £50 k a year you pay a higher percentage of tax than someone earning £25k a year.
The higher up you are the more your taxed.
58% of farmers polled voted leave
Are you going to boycott food too?
The fishing industry could do better by actually marketing itself to the public and reducing prices. Who the hell pays £20/kg for cod?!
I'm guessing the huge majority of Fisherman voted leave due to the nonsense regulations. IE: Limitations on fishing in our own waters. Size limitations of fish, that once caught get thrown back dead anyway. Ridiculous.
At the end of the day, the people whom are actually working in that environment and know the business inside out voted massively in favour of leave.
As I said previously, the EU benefits both farmers and fisherman. In this case, the UK has signed up to the UN Law of the Sea Convention which allows countries to establish an Exclusive Economic Zone of up to 200 nautical miles from their coast. If the UK were to leave the EU, sure it can have control of all the fish which were within this zone. However, the same laws also require countries to ensure that fish stocks are conserved and that the allowable catch is specified and where necessary shared with other countries.
Going for say the Norway model, post-Brexit, won't work either as Norway already have this 200 nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone in place, they also have agreements with a number of countries, and with the EU to allow fishing in those waters.
A flag (planted on almost everything), a currency, a parliament, an anthem, an un-elected president (corrupt at that), forthcoming EU army?
The remainer who lead the most ridiculous referendum campaign?
Or the Remainer, who decided to not be a remainer anymore and suddenly turn to hard Brexit?
There will be no EU army.
No EU army here...
Nice Photoshop work! :raised_hand:
Anyone fancy a pint?
Spoons staff are great (the ones who don't sell alcohol to kids), pay them more you sod.
Which includes temporary price reductions, happy hours etc and minimum prices. Basically, anything that encourages you to drink more than "normal".
This is HotUKDeals not HotUSDeals,UK spellings plz. :stuck_out_tongue:
Did you miss the part where I ridiculed you for cherrypicking, and yet you do exactly that directly again in your reply?
If you want to play the same game and have people pick out stereotypical Brexiteers, I'm pretty sure we both know who's going to come out worse.
You will see many who can't even answer simply questions about the EU when interviewed.
It seems to be a common theme with you lot, you think you are high and mighty and a cut above the rest. I know people who can speak several languages, lawyers, BDM's whom voted leave.
Dull that politics, isn't it? Except when it has a real effect on your life.
You know, like.. every single day.
- Unemployment is the lowest it has been in 40 years. The likes of Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy are floating around 22%+ unemployment, with youth unemployment at a staggering ~50%....
- Retail spending is up
- Record levels of investment
- Lower value pound (even though it's climbed considerably since the referendum) boosts manufacturing and export.
In fact the pound-dollar exchange rate was at $1.50 prior to the referendum. Yet $1.70 the year before, so being a full member of the EU - it still was dropping, be it slowly.
We have not seen the doom and gloom you lot predicted, even HSBC has had to retract is valuations, stating that they got it completely wrong.
Do carry on though...
We haven't left the EU and Brexit hasn't happened yet.
If you get stuck on how to come back on this one, keep going back to that sentence in bold until you get it.
If you paid attention, I was focusing more on the exchange rate side of things.
Could you avoid the ad hominems instead of ignoring the questions?
You can focus on the exchange rate if you like, but you have to focus on both sides of it unless you're deliberately trying to be misleading. Imports are, of course, far more expensive.
I don't remember you responding to my post that was made prior to today either, but.. in the meantime, do you know what's happened to existing staff in the NHS from the EU and the number of applications made since the vote? And that's just something I already knew about rather than rushing to Google to find things to counter your bullet points.
Let's pretend you'd usually trust those employments figures if you weren't trying to (ahem) employ them in an argument for Brexit. Let's also pretend that zero hour contracts aren't helping to prop them up, that they're good for people on the ground and that they didn't hit record numbers this year.
How are you going to replace the staff in the NHS which no-one is saying is in fantastic (ahem, again) health?
(Note: I must have a crystal ball because I was one of the "Remoaners" who wanted to stay in to help protect our NHS, which money alone cannot and will not save.. even before you pull out that ridiculous £350m a week figure which so many people fell for).
IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT BREXIT!!!!
Too subtle?
It's hard to debate on facts with someone who insists on living in a fictional version of reality, on what this country really is and where they think they can take us to.
UK exports outside EU fall despite weak pound
More of your fantasy, I'm afraid. Is there any fact that would help you realise how dangerous and reckless this whole endeavour is, or is the power of jingoism just too darn strong for you?
UK's credit rating downgraded by Moody's
Almost 10,000 EU health workers have quit NHS since Brexit vote
These aren't stories I'm looking for to try and argue with you on by the way, it's just me reading the news. Is the reality setting in yet?