A bit of a specialist market here but if your on the look out for this sort of thing I think this is a bit of a bargain. At least a tenner cheaper than Ebay for the same kit (some are 4 times this price). I bought a single wind back tool from Eurocarparts for more and this kit has both left and right handed winders.
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othen
13 Sep 17#1
Wonderful - but of course almost no one will need a kit this good. I have the single wind back tool (it fits several common sizes) and have not found any cars that it does not fit so far.
I really can't imagine that anyone on this forum will need this item, but I'll vote hot anyway as it would be a good price in the hypothetical case that someone did need it.
thefinest1 to othen
14 Sep 17#35
is it the "cube" tool you have?
othen to thefinest1
14 Sep 17#37
I don't think so. Mine looks just like the winder part of this one, but it only has a couple of the slotted discs. In practice the two common sized have fitted every car I have worked on with the parking brake on the rear discs, so it is always always adequate. It cost about a fiver from eBay.
As I said above, this is a good tool at a cheap price, but hardly anyone will need it. I even thought of getting it myself until I realised that I would be unlikely to need it in the next decade (and I work on quite a few cars, my own and for friends).
Typey1
13 Sep 17#2
Bargain for what you get! This will sort my Saab rear brakes, cheers op
othen to Typey1
13 Sep 17#4
You may well find that your Saab has drum parking brakes built in to the rear discs, so you will not need a wind back tool at all (you can just push the calipers back for the discs and wind the drums back with a screwdriver).
Infiltrator to othen
13 Sep 17#19
With a screwdriver with great difficulty - working out which way to turn the adjuster is the first challenge. Just another one of those simple jobs on a saab made difficult - oil pressure sensor - aarghhh.....
othen to Infiltrator
14 Sep 17#33
But this kit would not help one iota with Typey1's Saab rear brakes - it is only for cars with parking brakes that operate on the discs.
This is a cheap price, but hardly anyone will need it.
ScoobyZ
13 Sep 17#3
Yep ideal for rear disc as they have to be wound back in certain directions.
barneyonion
13 Sep 17#5
I have this kit and its a lot better than mucking around with g clamps. Worth 15quid.
BargainMad
13 Sep 17#6
Cracking deal op. A comprehensive kit for less than the cost of singular specific item. Cheers, the missus will be pleased with this birthday present!
rhinopaul
13 Sep 17#7
I think I paid about £28 for an identical kit and well worth it especially if you have multiple cars in the household as I do.
MrRee
13 Sep 17#8
This is a bargain ,,,,,, I have 4 cars to look after and these are a must.
I don't understand the G Clamp comment above, these are where G Clamps are an absolute NO NO unless you want to destroy your wind back pistons and calipers!
berisford to MrRee
13 Sep 17#11
I might go for this kit though I've used a G clamp to wind back pistons for 25 years, never had any trouble apart from the usual balancing act getting the clamp just right......
geoffreyt to berisford
13 Sep 17#12
G clamps for push back cylinders, this for wind back!
berisford to geoffreyt
14 Sep 17#34
No, wind back, that's the point of using the G clamp, the head on the clamp spins as you apply force....
barneyonion to MrRee
14 Sep 17#29
Just to clarify these kits also work on caliper pistons with no rotation like on my corolla. The attachment is a circular lip that pushes them back in straight. Better than g clamp as it cant slip.
N42
13 Sep 17#9
Excellent price. I paid approx £15 for my laser tool. Which only fits a handful of cars.
Honestly can't see much, is any difference other than the layout in the case and the price. I was trying to compare like for like with Ebay when i found the one I mentioned here.
hubcms
13 Sep 17#14
Just bought one. Thank you very much.
mrtumble
13 Sep 17#15
Sounds a good price & item but how easy is it to change your own disc brakes ?
Infiltrator to mrtumble
13 Sep 17#21
Ridiculously easy, although I do have a mechie background, as long as you understand the basics and follow a guide you'll be fine. Biggest hassle is usually removing the caliper, generally only two bolts, usually needs a 4 lb lump hammer and spanner or 18" breaker bar to undo them
Oneday77 to Infiltrator
13 Sep 17#24
Don't forget a barrow load of swearing too.
Wowhats to mrtumble
13 Sep 17#22
I changed the front discs and pads on my Rover 75 for first time ever this year just before the MOT, and it passed! My biggest friend was Youtube theres load of informative videos out there, saved me a fortune in garage bills. If you have the confidence and take it steady you will find it's not that difficult and more of a rewarding challenge. Doing it yourself makes you feel good inside and also better off in the pocket. Invest in some good tools, I also learnt watching videos how to do a thorough service and even more than what the garage used to do for ahigh price. Using Eurocarparts/Carparts4less ordering parts was a doddle, overall its saved me £100s, so more to spend on myself and the wife and kids.
phiras to mrtumble
13 Sep 17#23
Relatively easy if you have some understanding of cars and good with your hands and tools. First time can seem daunting, but really is quite straightforward. YouTube is your friend. If you're lucky, you'll find one specific for your car. If you can't find one, then look at several videos of the nearest similar car. That should give you a good understanding of the basics. Or you could take it to a willstep mechanic to show you the step by step process.
whitman_the_cat
13 Sep 17#16
I bought a similar one from eBay last month. They may have subtle differences in description, or say different ways of counting the number of pieces, but in practice they are all almost identical. You might as well but the cheapest available like the one linked by the OP.
As with anyone doing one car, only a few pieces from the set are needed. But including the cost of tools, I saved £170 over what the dealer wanted to change the pads, and that was fitting uprated pads.
I planned to.do my wife's car at some point as well, except at the service that dealer said the pads needed changing and she said yes for them to do it. In practice they probably had another year's use in them. Rear pads can be a nice earner for a garage.
suppose it depends what your garage is going to charge, I can do discs and pads myself, but the garage I use only wanted £30 to do them (front not back) so just paid them instead :grin:
Proveright
14 Sep 17#30
Good price. I have this set, remember to oil or cover parts in WD 40 as they go rusty. Some of the parts fall out of the case if you open it the wrong way. Would help if on all plastic cases they put top and bottom, or this way up.
Take the cap off the master cylinder, and any sliding adjustable wrench will push the brake caliper cylinder in just as well as these sets. You will never use all the circular discs in the set either, but it is nice to have the proper tools for the job, even if you rarely, or dont use them. Bit like a sandwich maker that stays at the back of the cupboard.
jimm1364
14 Sep 17#31
Try doing the rear calipers on a Focus without it
ses6jwg
14 Sep 17#32
I'm not very mechanical and have changed discs and pads on a variety of cars. Sometimes the most difficult.thing can be working out how to jack and support them safely.
I use the laser wind back tool which works well and has 2 different sizes.
One of the major problems for me once was the grub screw holding the discs in place rusting in place. Had to call my old man out with a drill to drill them out. Was a right pita.
thefinest1
14 Sep 17#36
I think this is a good post. yes, some might not know what it is and how to use it, but this site is about saving money and getting value. if you can learn to change your brakes pads and discs, think how much you will save on mechanic costs. I've seen my mechanic do my car in minutes. he has even said to me many times "you can do this yourself!"
could be a good xmas present for someone too
simes
14 Sep 17#38
The problem with the single winder tools is they are either left hand or right hand threaded . Most cars need both as its usually different thread on the driver side to the passenger side. They are more than a fiver now - i was looking and to get a pair was going to be about £15 , so i bought the full kit . With the kit you get both left hand and right hand winders as well as all the adaptor plates.
othen to simes
14 Sep 17#44
I think you may be mistaken about this.
thefinest1
14 Sep 17#39
thanks guys, I ordered it! combination of my brother in law (2 car household) mine and my dads should work out cost effective, that's 4 cars.
buckm
14 Sep 17#40
Thanks,ordered You mustn't be able to use Flubit now to get Amazon items cheaper?
bobo53
14 Sep 17#41
what general purpose grease do I need if I want to use it for everything?? when I say everything I also mean rubber . What about the litium grease I already got?? is any good for rubber or could rot it ? Do I need different types for these 2 different purposes??Which one would do both? Thanks
666FU
14 Sep 17#42
Last time I changed brake pads we just used a G Cramp.
buckm to 666FU
14 Sep 17#45
That's fine (G Clamp cramp) if the piston doesn't need to rotate as it's pushed back in
benmorgan3344913
14 Sep 17#43
I have this, great bit of kit .. plenty on ebay for the same price if not a bit cheaper. paid £12 for mine (new on ebay) in feburary
afellows19871
15 Sep 17#46
I have a VW Polo how do I need two seperate tools for each rear brake? this is confusing
h8ten to afellows19871
15 Sep 17#47
On some cars, don't know about the Polo, the pistons need to be rotated in opposite directions to retract according to the side of the car you are doing, one side clockwise the other anti-clockwise.
berisford
21 Sep 17#48
Delivery on these is poor, ordered when this deal was posted on the 13th and despite Amazon suggesting they'll be here by the 21st at the latest, nothing!
h8ten
21 Sep 17#49
Aye, third party delivery, Yodel, in my case, mine arrived yesterday.
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I really can't imagine that anyone on this forum will need this item, but I'll vote hot anyway as it would be a good price in the hypothetical case that someone did need it.
As I said above, this is a good tool at a cheap price, but hardly anyone will need it. I even thought of getting it myself until I realised that I would be unlikely to need it in the next decade (and I work on quite a few cars, my own and for friends).
This is a cheap price, but hardly anyone will need it.
I don't understand the G Clamp comment above, these are where G Clamps are an absolute NO NO unless you want to destroy your wind back pistons and calipers!
As with anyone doing one car, only a few pieces from the set are needed. But including the cost of tools, I saved £170 over what the dealer wanted to change the pads, and that was fitting uprated pads.
I planned to.do my wife's car at some point as well, except at the service that dealer said the pads needed changing and she said yes for them to do it. In practice they probably had another year's use in them. Rear pads can be a nice earner for a garage.
i might just just treat myself
eurocarparts.com/ecp…390
Take the cap off the master cylinder, and any sliding adjustable wrench will push the brake caliper cylinder in just as well as these sets. You will never use all the circular discs in the set either, but it is nice to have the proper tools for the job, even if you rarely, or dont use them. Bit like a sandwich maker that stays at the back of the cupboard.
I use the laser wind back tool which works well and has 2 different sizes.
One of the major problems for me once was the grub screw holding the discs in place rusting in place. Had to call my old man out with a drill to drill them out. Was a right pita.
could be a good xmas present for someone too
With the kit you get both left hand and right hand winders as well as all the adaptor plates.
You mustn't be able to use Flubit now to get Amazon items cheaper?
Do I need different types for these 2 different purposes??Which one would do both? Thanks
lampcramp) if the piston doesn't need to rotate as it's pushed back in