Intel are still screwed strategically, flapping around with no consistent message.

I'm a techie and even I find it confusing reading their strategy, it's a mess. An expensive mess.

Intel really need to stop reinventing their chipsets. The new chipsets won't work for Kabylake. So anyone who bought a Kabylake chip will have limited upgrade options 12-24 months later.

Wait and see on these new Intel 8th ed chips. How much more can they really squeeze out of this 14nm process? Most gains coming from increase in core counts. Judging from their pricing it will be a costly upgrade. Will there be initial issues with new chipsets and CPU? AMD will have their Ryzen refresh in new year.

Bang for buck 10% here or there matters little these days. As performance of most modern PC's will comfortably run most application quickly. Most games are GPU bound. Albeit at present cheaper to spennd more money on a CPU than a GPU.

Getting 6-8 cores will future proof most PCs. Most games are designed for 4 cores as that is where most PCs are likely to be. 10 year old pcs were dual core. More cores was one of main reasons for my upgrade. That and fact my pc was 10 years old. So large performance jump.

Yes officers your right i'll take it under advisement, straight from the mouths of losers that having nothing else to do or add productively but have to bitch and moan about grammar, full stops and commas, lol n who wants to work in IT omg rofl, maybe try adding something of note to the comments section, something that can help others maybe? is that too much to ask, perhaps you could go on and save the internet world from grammar oh, oh while your at it teach everybody to speak full English, no more FAIK or lol or rofl or omg or anything else that is current today on social media hey you guys could join teams rule the world correcting every last word, god knows you've nothing else to do with your life or contribute to the world as a whole.

We look forward to your influence, keep up the good work Nazi morons. :raised_hand: heil.

A union that's what you need, form a union on policing the internets grammar, oh ye now were talking.

Nothing new on the single core only looks good cause its clocked higher out of box, so 5ghz kaby vs 5ghz CFL = all the same but ye 6c/12t vs 4c/8t its gonna fly there.

Tough choice to make since for gamers it won't really offer an upgrade were not capping out a 7700k at 4.8-5.0ghz so no real improvement to be gained but still a high cost to pay out not only for a cpu but a half cut overpriced z370 board with a z390 coming in months, really silly and more n more reason not to buy CFL.

Expensive and no return in current gaming for that money plus a whole new platform out dated in 8 months and that's after only a 9 month z270, so then the argument will be well core/thread count ? sure but a 1700 still has more threads, it's cheaper as is the platform and with a longer life, so this for me is the worst intel release to date and anybody thinking with a clear head has to look at there options here, it's not good, unless maybe coming from haswell or earlier but again dated in 8 months with the z390 that is sickening, maybe worth a punt had the price matched amd, maybe.

Still holding out for Coffee Lake atm. 8700K will be more expensive but I saw a report today pegging it's multi core at least as good as this with just 6 cores, monstrously fast single core speeds, and huge OC potential. 5GHz plus. Wowsers.

You're better buying these chips locally, in case you're sent one of the faulty chips. Google the segfault issue for more info.

I find it exactly the same as using Amazon.co.uk, since you log in using the same account, then I just select the Halifax Clarity card, which is saved in my account, then click the buy button. Oh, then it arrives, usually a couple of days later if it is in stock. :smile:

Not sure it cold be much simpler.

Ultra hot. Though a uk based retailer is easier perhaps

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