I've had a LX100, compared to a Ricoh GR (which is 16mp), the Ricoh was way better. I was quite disappointed with the LX100, thought it might have been a one off, so brought another but this was the same. It was fine for most things, macros were very good, but landscapes were noticeably poor, a bit grainy and lacking in dynamic range. I didn't need to pixel peep but was surprised as sample shots on reviews seemed ok.
brilly to TK42
28 Aug 17#37
prime vs zoom lens? ok.... :dizzy_face: not that the lx100 had any place being brought up in this thread anyway
TK42 to brilly
28 Aug 17#38
The kit zoom lens on the Sony A7 will knock spots off both the LX100 and the GR (prime or not). Comes down to a good match of lens and resolution.
brilly to TK42
28 Aug 17#39
ah that again is a good like for like comparison.... :dizzy_face:
H0THEAD
23 Aug 17#8
Panasonic LX100 is probably a better buy. £499 from JL and £50 cashback
gr8h8me to H0THEAD
23 Aug 17#13
I'm after a camera for vlogging. Is the panny any good for that and why is it better. Thanks in advance
TK42 to gr8h8me
23 Aug 17#16
There's a link which compares the two from a image quality perspective. dxomark.com/Cam…916
For vlogging the LX100 will be fine though.
icstm to H0THEAD
23 Aug 17#17
This too is a little old and oddly does not have a replacement. Shame as I quite like it. There is a strange issue in that is does not use the whole 4/3s sensor, be careful when comparing to other MFT systems.
H0THEAD to icstm
23 Aug 17#19
Fair point
robwdavies to icstm
26 Aug 17#31
It's not an 'issue' that it doesn't use the whole sensor, that's exactly how it was designed.
TK42 to robwdavies
26 Aug 17#32
It's not an issue but you do only get 12.8mp instead of the usual 16.8mp.
robwdavies to TK42
26 Aug 17#33
True, but I'd take the MP drop for the quality of the glass. To get a similar quality and focal range in an interchangeable M4/3 set up you'd be spending a lot more.
TK42 to robwdavies
26 Aug 17#34
The lens is good but you will notice a difference in image quality, especially for landscapes.
robwdavies to TK42
26 Aug 17#35
You'll notice more of a difference on bigger print sizes and extreme crops. Landscapes at normal viewing sizes, the differences are unlikely to be perceptible to the human eye, if you pixel peep it's a different matter, but I'm no pixel peeper.
rodman to H0THEAD
23 Aug 17#21
Nothing beats Sony A7. Anyway lx100 is better buy from WEX you get free Manfrotto Tripod + Sandisk 32GB Memory Card. camerapricebuster.co.uk/Pan…100
niron_ev
23 Aug 17#7
Are the len's expensive for this camera?xx
SClub to niron_ev
23 Aug 17#11
Yes :disappointed:
AndySX to niron_ev
23 Aug 17#12
Mostly ... yes. There are a decent amount of first and third party E mount lenses now, but the A7 is full frame so uses Sony FE lenses which puts you at the pricier end of the market.
As @WhiteNoiseMaker mentioned, the A7 is fairly old now. I'm holding out for the A7ii to show up at a decent price.
djeyewater to niron_ev
23 Aug 17#22
If you want autofocus - yes. If you don't mind using old manual focus lenses on adapters, then you get them very cheaply.
toaster to niron_ev
23 Aug 17#23
This AF Samyang 35mm F2.8 FE lens will be a great option for this body, really light and compact great sharpness and full Sony AF, gets excellent reviews. Very reasonably priced at £279. I'll be getting one when they get stock. Other options are the Sony 28mm F2 FE, at £399 - £300 or less also gets very good reviews.
TK42 to niron_ev
23 Aug 17#24
If you buy at the same time as the camera you can get the Sony FE 50mm f1.8 for £199.
hcc27 to niron_ev
24 Aug 17#29
Lenses, not lens's.
pheyshunt1 to niron_ev
24 Aug 17#30
yeah if you want sony lenses. FE lenses are what you need. Super expensive compared to canon.
tom_g
24 Aug 17#28
Why does it matter that it's old? The Canon 5d Mark III and Canon 6D came out more than a year before this and haven't long since been replaced once.
It still has Wifi, NFC and other modern features, can have apps on it, and can still take as good of an image as it always has been able to. IBIS of the new one is great but mainly only more helpful at longer focal lengths, where native lenses are unbelievably expensive.
The speed, yeah it's not the fastest camera in the world but for daytime shooting it's not too bad. For a landscape photographer it's a brilliant camera. For motorsport, it's not really for you.
Night time high ISO performance will blow most cameras out of the park.
PulisOut
23 Aug 17#3
Nice camera, don't know about the price as these have been around for a few years now. If it's a good deal you can't go wrong with this one. I couldn't afford this when it over £1000 so went for a Fujifilm so for me it'll be too old a version to trade for.
fish323 to PulisOut
24 Aug 17#25
Which fuji did you buy. I have an original X100 and want the XT20 when it drops?
Throttle to fish323
24 Aug 17#26
Allthough you wasnt asking me i have the XT20 :smile: and i have a XE2, In the past ive had X100S, X70, XE1, XT1 and even the posted deal a A7 ( plus loads others ! lol ) How the deal is about the A7 it does produce some nice images yet i like it yet found the autofocus a little slow and lenses was similar sized and priced ( more at times ) to my Canon 5D gear :thinking: Id still consider the A7 II when that drops.
PulisOut to fish323
24 Aug 17#27
I think it's the XT-10 it's been in the storage for 3 months now as I move house. I collect old lenses, have about 30 vintage and I love the fun of finding a new lens and playing around. Problem is that takes a hell of a lot of time compared to just going out to take shots hence I've stagnated :-)
WBRacing
23 Aug 17#5
Looking at 3camels, it very briefly dipped lower to £799 some time back. Even at £899 though, that's a great price. Sadly I have too many Nikon lenses to make the move.
I'm worse, I have Sony A mount., so , so close :smile: I can get an adapter but a buky adapter takes away some of the size advantage of being mirrorless...
Does not stop me considering the 7S in camera shops even though I know I dont need it...
MrPuddington to WBRacing
23 Aug 17#18
You can use Nikon lenses with an adapter, but you will lose the automatic functions. Of course they are still great lenses.
This is a great price for a full format camera, most of the alternatives are significantly more expensive. (Not that I am unhappy with my APS-C camera - I think that apart from the angle of view the difference is marginal in normal use.)
Christopher.Halcrow
23 Aug 17#14
I was lucky enough to nab this on prime day for £729, then with the £100 cashback also so paid £629.
This is too much money now if you ask me. I am an a7ii owner which I bought two years ago for £1020 so this is way too much in comparison with depreciation from new models and age etc. The a7iii is expected imminently too.
If you can stretch for the a7ii it’s worth the extra speed and definitely for the built in 5 axis stabilisation. It’s a cracking camera it really is
WhiteNoiseMaker
23 Aug 17#4
Good price I guess but the A7 is really old now. I'm holding out for the A7ii to come down to around £1000, when the A7iii is released later this year ...Unless the A7iii has some amazing features and is a reasonable price.
niron_ev
23 Aug 17#1
Why did you have to put this on when I have just picked up a £500 bill for my car :rage: :rage: .
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dxomark.com/Cam…100
Sony A7
dxomark.com/Cam…/A7
not that the lx100 had any place being brought up in this thread anyway
There's a link which compares the two from a image quality perspective.
dxomark.com/Cam…916
For vlogging the LX100 will be fine though.
Shame as I quite like it.
There is a strange issue in that is does not use the whole 4/3s sensor, be careful when comparing to other MFT systems.
camerapricebuster.co.uk/Pan…100
As @WhiteNoiseMaker mentioned, the A7 is fairly old now. I'm holding out for the A7ii to show up at a decent price.
It still has Wifi, NFC and other modern features, can have apps on it, and can still take as good of an image as it always has been able to. IBIS of the new one is great but mainly only more helpful at longer focal lengths, where native lenses are unbelievably expensive.
The speed, yeah it's not the fastest camera in the world but for daytime shooting it's not too bad. For a landscape photographer it's a brilliant camera. For motorsport, it's not really for you.
Night time high ISO performance will blow most cameras out of the park.
Does not stop me considering the 7S in camera shops even though I know I dont need it...
This is a great price for a full format camera, most of the alternatives are significantly more expensive. (Not that I am unhappy with my APS-C camera - I think that apart from the angle of view the difference is marginal in normal use.)
I never would've bought it otherwise
amazon.co.uk/Son…+a7
If you can stretch for the a7ii it’s worth the extra speed and definitely for the built in 5 axis stabilisation. It’s a cracking camera it really is
Heat reluctantly added.....xx