Veeery tempted by this

Just been looking into this - biggest killer for me is the lack on fast charge :disappointed: Plus the camera could be better. Still seems great at the price point, but not for me...

Bought 3GB/32GB version of this a couple of weeks ago. Really nice phone. Good performance and battery lasts 2 days. Extra £20-30 is worth it for the extras.

gearbest.com/cel…tml

It's a bit cheaper on Gearbest for international model 4GB memory 64GB storage
I bought one a few days ago for £123 with a discount code I found
It has the faster Helio X20 processor rather than the Snapdragon 625

read about the differences here gizmochina.com/201…ed/





Helio X20

Only gold available for this price. I'm looking for the black or grey version. Wheres the cheapest and best place to buy this?

This is a great phone. I bought it for a family member and they love it. Does everything smoothly. Great camera too. Amazing value for under £150. Not sure how much I trust AliExpress tho.

very tempted. it does not have NFC which is a pain. does this have the correct band for 3 and EE networks? need to upgrade my one+1..LOL...yeah I know, old but still going strong. this does not have a sd card slot does it though? the global version gets updates via OTA?

basicvally what I want to know is can I use this out of the box or will I have to upload a custom rom or something?

thanks

Very decent phone all round but the killer for me was the quality of the camera, i found it very poor, after the reviews i read of the camera i expected it to be somewhat decent

i have an iphone 5s and it wasnt even near the quality of that.....

also make sure to use a screen protector... screen... smash... sad :disappointed:

Can anyone recommend something in the similar range with a better camera?

Bought from AliExpress almost 40 business days ago, equivalent to 2 months. Not received. I can apply for a refund on Thursday so hopefully it will be a trouble free process! Ended up getting an s7 edge instead due the £27 pm 8gb deal on here.

I do however, now have 2 really nice looking cases for this Xiaomi phone, and 2 screen protectors. If anyone would like them, free of charge, I will post them for you. I'll cover postage. Throw a bit of good Karma back out there to someone.

P.M me. *offer now taken up by one lucky forum user!*

SO Sad,


Mine got pickpocketed yesterday from Notting hill carnival.

And i managed to get it for £125 a few months back. -- Now everywhere i look its £150 minimum (Black version) - So i decided id buy the 3gb/32gb for £115 from Gearbest (With voucher)


still.. i feel like i'm giving up 4gb ram and a bit of storage, - Will i notice a difference?


+ also my sd card was worth nearly £65 because it was 200gb.!!!!! SIGH!!!! SIlly carnival theives.

What is the best delivery and payment method if i wanted to purchase this without any hassle.. I'm a noob when it comes to these sites -_- lol.

Thanks for the updates guys.

If getting cases and screen protectors for this phone, look for "Redmi Note 4X" instead. Don't get any that just say "Redmi Note 4" unless it specifies Global Version. Redmi Note 4 Global Version is Snapdragon with an updated housing but searching for "Redmi Note 4" will bring up original China version results which is Mediatek with slightly different housing, therefore won't be the correct fit for Global Version RN4

For added confusion, the Redmi Note 4X 64GB can be either Mediatek or Snapdragon. If any listings happen to have separate options for 32GB Note 4X and 64GB Note 4X, then it means the 64GB is Mediatek, therefore choose 32GB Note 4X even though this is the 64GB Global Version. In most cases though, Redmi Note 4X means Snapdragon fitment, therefore correct for this phone. These images may help explain:

Xiaomi? What's that?!

Dithering here. This was posted by sandy in July at £128 and I just missed out.

The new Note 5 is supposedly due out in October - will the price of this one drop again nearer the time I wonder - hmmmmmm?

Anyone know of a decent guide to put a ROM on it?

Here we are again discussing pros and cons of this great value phone :smile:
I though I will contribute too.

I wasn't convinced at the beginning, but I went ahead and replaced my Nexus with Note 4 3GB/32GB Global version.
I got it from Aliexpress, Xiaomi store, standard free shipping, no tax.

My impressions from day to day medium to heavy use:
Build quality - nothing to complain about. Nicely finished matt metal body. Great colours and sharpness on neutrally calibrated 1080p screen. Buttons and ports feel solid. I don't use screen protector and after 3 months of normal handling i have no scratches on the glass.

Processing speed - I haven't noticed any slowness and I've thrown a lot on it. It can handle Football Manager 2017 with good speed and that requires a lot of processing power. Remember, this is £130 phone we're talking about

Battery - normal use = 2 days. I charge it overnight and when in the car. It's the first smartphone I ever had that doesn't put me in panic mode when battery saver switches on. This just means that you have half a day left.

Camera - it's average. Good results in good light. I found that with OpenCamera app on Google Play, with jpeg set to highest quality, the results seem to be better than from stock camera app.

MIUI - really nice version of Android, with extra features on top of stock operating system. So far I've only found them useful and I haven't found anything that I regret it's there.

Things that you won't get:
NFC - really annoying as I've used this a lot with Nexus. Can't have everything for £130 though
Fast updates - Xiaomi takes time to update their phones, but Nougat is here and I'm using it. No issues to report.

Word of advice:
If you get one, I strongly recommend adjusting default aggressive power management.
it will kill apps in the background and clear cache when phone is locked.
I found it an issue when using Spotify in the car.

Settings / Battery / Power/ Cog wheel /
Set Clear Cache when locked to Never

Settings / Battery / Manage apps battery usage
Set to Off

Hopefully you find some of it useful.

Thanks for the deal OP..Does anyone know how i can change the payment to GBP

Don't want to pay in USD as my card issuer will hit me with transaction fees

What's the battery life like on these? I've currently got a lenovo p2 and that can last me 3 days

I bought this in black for £128 from Geekbuying (may have been a misprice), To be honest, I still prefer the old Lenovo K3 Note, which is a shame, as I was encouraged to buy because of the children's good reviews of the 3S and 3 note global versions.

It really just doesn't feel right for some reason......... I'll wait until MIUI 9 comes out and decide if I should go back to the K3 Note (as none 4G, even with HSPA+ I was getting 17-20 Mbs)

Thanks a lot for that post. I have the exact phone on it's way to me now and am upgrading from a finally deceased Nexus 5. I was looking forward to it but after reading your post I'm even more excited/assured.

I stupidly paid for express shipping though. Customs Tax here I come.

Love the phone but has anyone else had issues when using an EE sim??

I got the following case
ebay.co.uk/itm…649

and screen cover
ebay.co.uk/itm…649

Near top right corner, next to Language, click on 'Ship to' and then change Currency to GBP.
It took me a while to find it.

Got one. Its ACE

Tempted but I'm a practical guy and my 2yr old oneplus one still does what I want it to do. But if it should accidentally fall and maybe get stepped on and then get chewed by a dog anytime soon then I'm sure to get one of these.

I'm on EE, what sort of problem. I've found the best cases are made by MOFI. Quite cheap off AliExpress too.

does the extra gig ram justify £24 for non gaming use?

I think the extra 32 gb of storage is the main thing

Redmi note 3 pro with snapdragon 650 version is better and cheaper and best of all you can root easily on XDA and install latest custom ROM which is running super smooth in my case. I sold Pixel XL . It was not worth just paying too much money simply for camera


gsmarena.com/xia…php

I can't use an EE sim in the phone. I get signal but can't make/receive calls or use data. Stuck a Vodafone sim and was all good so know it's not the phone.

No problem. Nothing to worry about. I loved every nexus I had and it took me very little time to adjust to Xiaomi. You will get a lot for the money. Fingers crossed for fast delivery with no extra charges :smile:

Have you played Hearthstone on it? If not would you be able to download it and give it a quick test and review for me? It's the only game I play and not super intensive but someone said their phone wasn't that good for gaming.

Is there a version that does updates via OTA. Don't fancy the palaver with custom roms.

I guess for the price of the Pixel XL your better of with the note 3 and just getting a sony rx100 or g7x as a camera if you need one, thought it wont have the same convenience as being a integrated phone camera.

Cheaper where? Pretty much nowhere sells it anymore apart from maybe some eBay stores with old stock. This is also a B20 Global Version. The B20 Redmi Note 3 Pro is "Special Edition", which is even more difficult to find. There's plenty of custom ROM support on XDA for RN4 Snapdragon too: forum.xda-developers.com/red…ent

Seriously thinking of getting this, but I'm on EE.

What is the issue with this phone and EE?,

Some says it does have band 20 support and some say it does not.

Can anyone explain to me why Band 20 is so important and will i need it running Three as i do right now?

All1

The phone is the dogs b's! Get it. Forget the tempered screen protector I had one for 3 months decided to take it off and admire the curved glass on the phone and the feel.of the screen is better without protector.

Its £100 if it smashes then I'd buy another for £100.

Beautiful phone.

It just looks like a A+phone. However when u use it, u will found that not work as good as it said

hi any offers on the Mi Max 2?

Looks a lot of phone for the money, but ordering from AliExpress (like any other Chinese importer) doesn't fill me with confidence if there is a problem.

No NFC makes Android Pay out of the question as well as tapped pairing with my other NFC devices.

But I could forgive all that if the Camera and Video capture were good as these are vital. And I'm not seeing stellar reviews for those.

Also GPS issues after Nougat update and call quality issues are a concern as people have mentioned on other threads.

With all that missing....why do people rave about these so much ?

Redmi note 3 Pro get OTA update and it will even get latest android 8 Oreo

gsmarena.com/miu…php

But since i prefer pure android experience aka less bloatware and same experience as nexus/Pixel thats why i flashed custom AOSP ROMs

If I don't veg a stonking S7 deal from Vodafone even I ring them, I may get this and a sim only contract. Would be probably cheaper than the £20-25 a month I'd give them!

You are right. I actually have DSLR camera but this camera in Pixel XL was probably the best camera in smart phone for still photography and i am saying this after using many latest smart phones i.e s7 edge, s8, HTC 10. I was hesitant to sell it only for camera . Battery is as good as i was getting on s7 edge and redmi note 3 ..But then pixel has no sdcard, no mircacast support to cast mobile screen on tv, no IR blaster and redmi screen is very bright even at 40 percent brightness so overall redmi note 3/4 are great budget phones with exception of average or rather poor camera

I purchased two redmi note 3 pro from ebay in almost new condition ..one for £110 and the other £120 which was 32gb/3GB RAM using them on three and 4g work fine ..All Redmi notes are actually coming from china though they have chinese and global versions. I am not saying redmi note 4 is poor device. Its probably same with slightly lower processor/GPU and since redmi note 3 snapdragon is here for a while thats why there are plenty of Custom ROMs to choose from if you get bore with stock

here is benchmark performance reviews


gsmarena.com/xia…php

Have you tried turning phone off putting the sim in then rebooting? If that doesn't work you might need a new sim card.

I bought myself one of these then ended up buying another 2 of the 3gb versions for family members. The camera wasn't great until I realised you press the targeted person or object on screen and it moves focus to that area this brightening up that person or object.

Three use following bands

800MHz (4G) ( Band 20)

1800MHz (4G) (Band 3)

2100MHz (3G) (Band 1)


My redmi note 3 pro has no band 20 but it has band 3 and LTE is fine

Dave, it's less than 140 quid. Try buying what you require from a UK-sourced phone for twice the price if you can. There was recently a deal posted on here for a Sony Xperia X Compact for 270 quid that had a spec that was basically embarrassing compared to the Redmi Note 4 (4.6 inch 720P screen anyone??)..horses for courses.

Sell the oneplus on facebook. Way better than ebay and free as well! My wife *after I got her the Redmi Note 4) sold her Huawei P8 (2 yrs old, lovely phone but 16GB internal was proving far too conservative) for 80 quid - bloke came to our house and after a quick inspection handed over the cash. Ebay has competition at last!!

I know, and the Black is less than £150. I know it's 4GB, 64GB storage etc etc and I own Xiomi headphones that are brilliant, but but ...

Ok, here's a question. Would you choose this @ £150, or a new full size, 5" Xperia X from John Lewis that I could get tomorrow with a 2 year guarantee for £229 (pricematched but still £80 more)

I need a new phone and that is the dilemma I'm in.

I'm probably not the best person to ask this question as I'm a rabid anti-Sony mobiles poster due to their rip-off prices. So, clearly i would choose the Redni Note 4 every day of the week. The warranty is a good talking point, though. I genuinely can't list all the mobiles I've owned since their inception but it would be a crazy number. NOT ONE has malfunctioned whilst I had it. Fact.

Very tempted by this thanks op

Lol, I've never had a problem with any of my previous phones, but my Xperia Z2 after 3 years of service and the application of a new screen protector (now removed) suddenly doesn't like the last 4mm of rh side of the screen being touched, so typing is a pain, especially when a 'p' is required.

"Almost new condition"? So you bought two 2nd hand non B20 RN3 Pro's from eBay for around the standard price of a brand new 3/32GB B20 Redmi Note 4 Global Version? How does that mean it's cheaper? Even when they were readily in stock, £110 would have been the standard price for the 2/16GB RN3 Pro.

The Global Versions are not made for China Market. They will have different packaging, bands, charger etc and will be factory sealed with with Global ROM pre-installed. The Indian RN4 isn't even made in China. Printed on the back of India RN4 retail box<. Similarly the Redmi Note 4 Global Version is made for Singapore/Malaysia/Indonesia markets. The Redmi Note 3 Special Edition was specifically a Taiwan Market release. Not all Redmi Notes are coming from China.

You took my comment on your heart. I dont mind second hand if they look like new with all accessories and work as attended . It will be much cheaper now if someone could get it and band 3 is working fine for me on 3 ..You are free to pick redmi note 4 if you love it with this passion :smile:

Your initial comment said Redmi Note 3 is "better and cheaper". Notice how I didn't dispute which is better? That is subjective. I was asking where it is cheaper. You are misinterpreting why I am mentioning B20. I was trying to compare like for like. The equivalent to RN4 Global Version is the RN3 Special Edition, which as I said is difficult to find. A 2nd hand non B20 RN3 Pro isn't necessarily a cheaper and 'better' alternative. Also see here< I am using an older RN2 which also lacks B20 and I'm on Three so I'm aware it would work fine. "It will be much cheaper now if someone could get it" That's not really the case though? That's the point I'm trying to make...

en.miui.com/thr…tml

Easy way of putting MIUI developers ROM which is based on Android Nougat 7.0 (a much better than official one).

Alternatively,if you are looking to install other non Mi ROM check XDA website forum.xda-developers.com/red…ent , plenty of guides how to do it .You will have to request the bootloader to be unlocked first via Xiaomi web, then install recovery (twrp or red wolf recovery project), then ROM and other things like gapps, root or whatever else you may need.

I do really recommend installing the developer ROM as all custom ROMs are still in beta stage too and are far from being perfect(yellowish flashlight, random reboots etc.)The developers ROM also have its issues but does not require unlock, it's officially supported and updated on a weekly basis.

It is a seriously good handset, well worth the money. Xiaomi's ambissions to conquer the massive Indian market helps to keep the prices low.Also, unlike many other Chinese manufacturers they seem to understand that aftermarket support is important and must be provided.
Even though Xiaomi is not the quickest to address the issues but they clearly do work on it and constantly improve.

Hearthstone runs well on it. I don't play it much any more but it was one of the first games I tried. No issues at all.

Thanks for that! I think you just saved me from ordering the wrong case. So, if the thing I ordered is Global Version Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm 4GB 64GB Snapdragon 625 Octa Core Smartphone 5.5'' 1080P, then HATOLY Cover Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Case Hard Rubber Silicone Case for Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X Cover for Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Pro would probably work (looks rugged, currently £2.60 on Ali), but Hybrid Shockproof Armor Rubber Hard Stand Case Cover for XiaoMi RedMi Note4 would probably not fit?

Or should I just wait for the phone to arrive? The thing is, the way I drop phones, I don't want it to be unprotected for too long, and I stupidly ordered the flip-case bundle.

Tried all that and thought the last update might solve the issue. The sim works in every other phone I have tried, BBZ30, Nokia Lumia, Huawei P8 etc so know the sim is fine.

Slightly cheaper today from a different store

Eternal Team

Because it's £100? What u can't purchase things in a shop? Use your card. Camera is OK, video is bad. But look at the price. Buy a camera with the £500 your saving...
Issues with GPS? Which issues? Non with mine. And never had a problem with the call quality.

is the original link dead? Can't seem to find it

May sound daft . if I was to open up a new phone ,stick in my gift gaff sim would it be in English or would I have to download stuff to make it work

I don't think that even the AliExpress case link would fit either. Sometimes sellers will put a number of devices in the title and then have multiple selectable options in the listing itself. That listing appears to be for Redmi Note 4 only. So maybe at one point there was Redmi Note 4X option or else the title is incorrect. The thing to look out for is to top edge. If it has a hole in the middle, it's for the Redmi Note 4. That's where the IR blaster used to be, but it moved over to the right side, in the Snapdragon model.

If you want a rugged case then perhaps this: aliexpress.com/ite…tml If you scroll down to the description, the first image will show that top edge doesn't have hole in the centre and the selectable options are only for Redmi Note 4X. Sometimes for multiple options listings, it'll just use images for one model, even though it has options for other models so images aren't always enough to go by. For example this listing: aliexpress.com/ite…tml shows that it has the hole in the centre but has separate selectable options for Redmi Note 4X and even 'Note 4 Global', which *should* be a different fitment than what is depicted in the listing itself.

Is the redmi 3 global version on ali express?

I have had this phone for around 3 months now.

For the price it is very good, on one proviso, you don't get a phone with the "noise cancellation microphone" bug. My partner didn't and hers is spot on.

I did. It means when you make a phone call your voice sounds muffled/underwater to the person on the other end. There are two fixes for it. 1 is to adjust the 'google ok' settings on the phone and reboot daily (this didn't work on mine). The other is to place a bit of tape over the noise can. mic. (top left of phone) - this did work. They have been meant to fix it with each subsequent release of the MIUI version; I'm on the latest (8.5.4.0) and it's still not fixed.

Just google: "redmi note 4 noise cancellation microphone" or "redmi note 4 muffled voice" to see all the people affected. There are lots! I have trawled the MIUI forums for a fix, but a bit of tape is as good as it gets for now. It's also not limited to the note 4, and people have been crying out for a fix to the developers for years for it on the MIUI forums (earliest reports I can trace to 2015 and the note 2). It's a deal breaker for me...

It's possible rooting your phone may fix the issue... have seen a lot of reports of success with this - I'm lazy and have stuck with my trusty bit of tape for now :worried:

Can anyone point me in the direction of an easy rooting/ flashing lineage rom guide for this phone that perhaps they may have followed.

Have googled but can't seem to find any straight forward guide.

Search for the issues and you will see. But here's just 2 examples;

c.mi.com/thr…tml

c.mi.com/thr…tml


You might be fine, doesn't mean there are not issues with this phone and it's not £100, it's nearer £140. And £500 saving? This is not a top end smartphonem it's a 625 Snapdragon mid range phone with a 1080p screen, at the most, you're saving £100 against a phone with full UK support if it goes wrong.


Really, if you think this compares to a phone worth £650 then you are too much of a fanboi to listen to.

Oh and the point of having a decent camera on a phone is to not have to carry a camera around with you everywhere. The best photo is one you have a camera to capture with.

AliExpress are the knock-off choice of service.
Enjoy your products folks!

From the tone of your other comments it seems like you've already made up your mind about RN4 so this might be a rhetorical question but I'll try to answer from a price standpoint. The 3/32GB black RN4 Global Version is £113 @ Gearbest so using £150 as the price isn't an even comparison when it's 4/64GB whilst the Xperia X is 3/32GB. You mentioned a £229 price match. Not sure if that's because of the recent Argos price but they're both £300 at the moment. Even if it is £229, that's still quite a price disparity. You'd essentially be paying twice the cost (or more) for the benefit of 2 years warranty + NFC whilst sacrificing a lot of battery life (GSMArena 67h Xperia X endurance rating vs 119h RN4). You can highlight other advantages of Xperia X as justification but in my opinion, it wouldn't be worth the difference.

Had this phone for about a month after reading positive comments on here. To date the best phone I have ever had. :innocent:

My bad £112 then because that's what I paid. And I'm no fan boy, only had 1 xiaomi device and imo it's brilliant.
There are issues with every single phone that gets released... Course this is going to have issues but I don't care when it cost £100...

Iv paid so much for phones in the past. £45 a month contracts for 2 years over and over again. Had them all. Samsung, HTC, iPhone, Sony. HTC by far the worst even when something went wrong what did buying in the UK do for me? They just palmed me off n told me to take it to the shop I purchased.. Which was CPW and guess what they did? Told me to ring HTC... Ended up ringing my insurance.

Of course it doesn't compare to the new flag ships.. But check out some YouTube videos of this phone keeping up with the likes of Samsung s7's and s8's.. Its madness that it cost a quarter of the price.

And the camera... It's not the best.. I don't mind that. Your the one complaining it's rubbish.. It wouldn't be this price if they put a decent camera in also...
Please link me a phone with spec as good as this with a better camera, nfc, and uk support.

My experience with the 3GB/32GB using MIUI official based on Android 7
has some idosyncracies:

1. while taking call on headset, call volume cannot be lowered less than 20% total volume. Had headphones half in half out.
2. unplugging headset, the mobile still thinks the headset is connected. (occassionally, but reboot sorts it out. Others have reported this issue)
3. pluggging headset, the mobile still uses the speaker. (occassionally, but reboots sorts it out)
4. using fiddles to get Google Assistant to work, nevertheless, I am unable though to send SMS txts handsfree via Assistant.
5. MIUI seems to kill apps.

Its not all roses and the quirkiness does inspire me to get a UK-based mobile.

I'm on EE with the 32gb 3gb Global version... my 4G works perfectly.

Word of warning if you intend using this phone for roaming in Europe. I have been using this phone for the past couple of months and it has been fantastic. However since the recent software update to version 8.5.4.0, I have been unable to connect to data whilst roaming in Europe. Due to my business I am back and forth on a weekly basis and this only started after the update. The sim works in my spare phone so nothing to do with that. Hopefully they will release an update to overcome the problem. Otherwsie I will need a dummy's guide on how to install the previous software version.

XDA guide - forum.xda-developers.com/red…095

Rom- download.lineageos.org/mido

Hey man thanks so much for replying man

If this were the 4X edition SD625/4GB RAM/64GB, I would be a little tempted.

The camera sensor (Samsung ISOCELL) on the Redmi Note 4 is poor. Also the Sony IMX 258 sensor on the 4X is great for stills but it real disappoints when it comes to video recording (that is another con for me).

For those who carry a DSLR with them anyway or are simply not fussed about camera quality then this is a good buy. Good battery life, good build, great audio jack output.

Also for those who would like to milk out as much quality as they can from the camera, then definitely install OpenCamera from the PlayStore and also the new ported Google Camera: xda-developers.com/goo…ed/ which should be compatible on SD625 Redmi Note 4.

I was going to get this but 60 days for delivery.........no way.....

How does this compare to a HTC m8?

Yes using laptop.
I was unable to pay earlier on today. It went through verified by visa then came back with the message "Payment failed
Reason: The service is currently unavailable " I tried 3 times with the same result.
I then tried using the aliexpress app on my phone and successfully paid with my card using that.

Maximum 60 days typically less than 20.

So you're saying that Note 4X = Sony IMX whereas Redmi Note 4 = Samsung ISOCELL but in your comment here< you said you can't be certain which camera you get, even for the Note 4X? :thinking: As you stated in your previous comment, it can be either Samsung or Sony on both the RN4 SD and RN4X: en.miui.com/thr…tml So I'm not sure why you're going against what you had said previously? Techtablets RN4 Global Version unboxing< @5:20 shows that theirs was Sony IMX and then they state that their Note 4X was Samsung.

The price for gold version is £135.71 if you apply their store coupon.

Incidentally, fairly easy to check who makes the camera in your Redmi Note 4.



Just checked ours and it's the Sony imx258 sensor. Kimovil suggest this is the same sensor as used in the LG G6 - surely that can't be right...can it?

kimovil.com/en/…258

Edit: just checked and the LG G6 uses TWO imx258 sensors.

I didn't contradict myself. That's correct, you can't be certain which sensor you'll be getting. If you read around, some people with the 4X have Samsung on both rear and front. But what I implied was that you're more likely to get the Sony sensor if you go for the 4X.
It's literally a lottery in the camera department for this phone, but what one can almost be certain is you'll likely get the Sony sensor on the rear on the Note 4X, and Samsung sensor on both on the Note 4. Note the emphasis on the likely.

"The camera sensor (Samsung ISOCELL) on the Redmi Note 4 is poor. Also the Sony IMX 258 sensor on the 4X is great for stills". How do you expect anyone to interpret that as an implication that Sony IMX on Note 4X is "more likely"? Also how did you conclude it is more likely on Note 4X but not Note 4 SD? As shown in the thread in my previous comment, there are plenty of people saying their Note 4X is Samsung. Did you tally up the 22 pages of comments on that thread and discover more than half said Sony? The Note 4X can also have Omnivison: en.miui.com/thr…tml If you search "Note 4 Omnivision" you'll see only Note 4X threads. So Note 4X with the possibility of 3 different cameras is somehow more likely to have Sony IMX than the RN4 SD? Can you find many incidences where someone specifies they have the RN4 SD (not Note 4X), and that is has Samsung sensor or are you concluding the RN4 = Samsung because that's what the original Mediatek uses?

Im going for this, Ive always wanted to get one of these ton chinese phones but not brave enough. this looks like the real deal and if it breaks in a year so what ill get the 5. Just bought a samsung galaxy s4 off cex and the effer who sold it too them didnt tell them about the battery drain problem. I found a battery in the bottom of the phone box. Why dont cex ask questions if someone has bought an extra battery.

Finally grabbed one from a decent seller in black ... yay :grin:

See a lot of scattered recommends for cases/screen protectors from those ordering : but wondering if anyone who has had plenty of experience with the phone on their preferred types of both?

Ah, I thought what I'd ordered (4GB/64GB) was called a 4X, but it appears to be called a "Note 4 Global" on the order.
So in your link there, the "Redmi Note 4 Global" would be the one to choose, in that case? (no pun intended!)

For £1.96 that would be a good deal if so! BTW, just looked at the listing for this phone. They've been selling an average of 43 a day for the last 6 months. Seems quite popular!

What would be better this or ASUS Zenfone Zoom ZX551ML 4GB/64GB 2.3GHz -White - £112.99 @ eGlobalcentral?

Yeah, this is called Redmi Note 4 Global Version but basically it's Redmi Note 4X in terms of housing (usually). Due to the name, most people will just search "Redmi Note 4", which would be for older Mediatek housing but this is Snapdragon like Note 4X, hence searching for "Redmi Note 4X" instead. Not because this model is called Note 4X but because it shares the same housing.

For that case, the Note 4X option is likely the exact same but Note 4 Global would be the one to choose since it's there. Here's another listing for the same case<. In the description they distinguish the 2 different types but still have separate options for many that they point out as being the same type. So the different options are sometimes just there to help people select the right one.

Sheesh, are you a detective or a prosecutor or something? I'm only basing my views on the searches I've done with Google. My findings were that people were quite unhappy to find a mixture of camera sensor in the same model.
Obviously as everyone knows we all don't go out and carry out impirical or statistical studies on smartphones unless one works for a smartphone manufacturer.

Hopefully you're not asking me to publish a paper backing my every opinion and review of a product.

So yes, I'm more or less generalising, from the comments I've found from Google, and most people have said the 4X has the Sony sensor. Although probably, Xiaomi may have changed their batches by now so the difference in the camera department or at least the model differences are becoming less obvious, I.e. the 4X model may well disappear. Anyway, I'm basically disappointed with the fact that you can't be certain on the sensor you're getting.

So I'm a detective or a prosecutor for disagreeing with your comments and providing reasons why? My point is that your initial comment suggests RN4 = Samsung whereas RN4X = Sony, which is misleading to others. You then stated you were implying it was more likely, therefore I asked how. You're now saying you're generalising and basing it off your own searches but seem to disregard my findings which say the opposite? "I'm basically disappointed with the fact that you can't be certain on the sensor you're getting". Then why state you'd be tempted if this was Note 4X? To me, your initial comment clearly implied there was a definite difference between this RN4 Global Version and the RN4X hence my reply to clarify that isn't the case.

The Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon launched in India approx 1 month before it came to China as Redmi Note 4X. Due to this many sites that comment on the differences in camera are speaking about Snapdragon vs Mediatek, not RN4 vs RN4X so I can't see how you're concluding "most people have said the 4X has the Sony sensor" especially when people who speak of Samsung sensor disappointment are speaking about RN4X due to expectations that RN4 Snapdragon = Sony.
gsmarena.com/xia…php
"Here’s an interesting note - the Redmi Note 4 that is powered by a Snapdragon 625 used a Sony IMX 258 sensor (13MP/1.12µm) while the MediaTek-powered model from China used a Samsung S5K3L8 ISOCELL sensor (13MP/1.12µm)."

Tried looking into this a bit more but can't find anywhere that suggests Note 4X is more likely to have Sony IMX. The earliest incidences I can find of people noticing Samsung with Snapdragon, was on Note 4X rather than Note 4 SD: en.miui.com/for…485. The 2 following comments then show 1 person has Note 4X with Samsung, but the other has Note 4 SD with Sony, which is what Techtablets got as well. So I'll ask the same thing in a previous comment: "Can you find many incidences where someone specifies they have the RN4 SD (not Note 4X), and that is has Samsung sensor". RN4 SD actually seems more likely than RN4X to have Sony IMX. Very few (if any) comments of people saying RN4 SD with Samsung whereas RN4X has had multiple people saying Samsung or Omnivision as well as Sony.

I wish that were true, but having been burned by buying an Xperia Z5 based on battery life that I pretty much have to have on charge constantly, I don't buy it.
I also use my phone for GPS in the car and without fast charge that drains far too fast

Literally gone OOS in the last half hour. Word of warning refresh the page (clicking on the options is not enough to refresh the stock counts). Quite happy to pay £9 extra for Grey (same listing; 32820984172) or £10 more for black (slightly cheaper on listing 32810130288). Must keep telling myself I do not need a new phone!

How much faster would this be over an LG G3 (UK 2GB model)? VLC, Candy Crush & Jackpot Joy free games :smile: being the most demanding things I reckon I use

We were out travelling for most of yesterday and my wife had data/bluetooth/gps on for most of the day, then on the phone a lot in the evening when we came home. Result? Battery was showing 60% when she went to bed.

The Z5 has a 2900 mAh battery coupled with a SD 810 SOC whereas the Redmi Note 4 has a 4100mAh battery coupled with a far more efficient SD 625 SOC. Not rocket science to tell which will have the better battery life...

Had my eye on this phone for a while after reading all the reviews on HDUK. Was waiting on the 64gb / 4gb version so cheers OP! Finally ordered! Any recommendations/links to cases? Read that you have to be careful and make sure you get the right size depending on the chipset. Could someone post a link to a black case and glass screen protector? Would be very much appreciated

Sure - i get that it's better, but I go through 3 charges a day. Still sounds like it holds up in daily use - my Z5 def doesnt get what it was supposed to

Does this have NFC?- edit, nevermind, i see it doesnt. Still tempted tho

Am I likely to get charged VAT / import fees on this?

3 charges a day?? Crikey. I read a review of the Z5 by trustedreviews which stated Sony's claims for battery life tend to fizzle out a after a few months of use. Maybe fast charging mobile batteries has a detrimental effect on longevity similar to ordinary rechargeable batteries? No idea.

With regards to getting charges opt for the free delivery option and you would be very unlucky to get stung. No guarantees though.

This phone's Antutu score is approx twice the score of the LG G3.

In GSMArena's battery endurance tests, Xperia Z5 = 48h< whereas Redmi Note 4 = 119h<. Their tests don't necessarily equate to actual everyday usage so it can differ due to many variables, but in theory you'd get over twice the battery life.

Seems the black has gone up in Price :disappointed:

147 quid here

aliexpress.com/ite…e98

141 here (but the store is a new one on me)

aliexpress.com/ite…128

Wish I waited couple months now

The first one is the one I found (I posted the item number, which is handy for those using TCB). As for the second one, great price, but I would avoid; "4G Bands LTE band 3(1800), 5(850), 40(2300)" - not exactly global!

May I ask when you bought & how much?

Definitely stating it is the global version in the FAQ but they are seemingly a very new seller on there so treat with caution

Even forgetting them being new - I think those bands are too few, even for the Chinese version - I smell a rat.

Next question (sorry) this video suggests an Antutu of 59500 for the 3GB 32GB model & a couple of places suggest that the Helio X20 version can beat that by 25000 (getting on for 85K). Do you happen to know the Antutu of this 4GB model?

Actually I had one more go & found my answer: around 62200. So the 4GB ram doesn't make much difference in the benchmark... now many will say that 4GB is overkill & this is not a surprise, while others will eulogise about Android's memory management & how it will use it cleverly to keep a lot in memory so that it is available like lightening! For me the thinking is 32GB vs 64GB - with a 32GB I would likely want the headroom of an SD card, while with 64GB I would be happy - effectively meaning that the 64GB is dual sim, where (because I'd need to use sim 2 as an SD slot) the 32GB is not. Now £30 for that...

I completely 'get' your reasoning for going for the 64GB version. It's well worth the premium over the 32GB version imo. My wife has the 64GB version and finds she hasn't got to worry about putting on the phone basically everything she wants. It makes the whole mobile-owning experience remarkably stress-free....

If only I could like that twice - I had a warm 'yep I know exactly what you mean' nod reading it! Bit like the difference between the 'set free' feeling moving from the G2 to the G3 - beats me why they ever make no-sd card phones! The dual sim or SD is silly enough! Does it really save that much space/cost?

Showing as £156 here :disappointed:‌ prntscr.com/gg40f3


Also, do we get hit on customs here or do these prices include?

True - all prices up to £150 for black/grey! :disappointed: I wanted to pull the trigger, but umm'd & ahh'd that long I was too tired to do so!

EDIT: Except for the very dodgy one who has no ratings & doesn't list half the bands - AVOID!

As for customs questions; probably not & definitely not!

Phone is brilliant bought this model for £133 and got £6.25 quidco cashback, yes the camera is not the best in low light but so happy with the price and quality ! Arrived within 2 weeks and no customs charges.

Was after black 4GB 64GB version after reading glaring reviews of Xioami redmi Note4. Replacing my nearly 2yrs old LG G4 that has served me well. Finally ordered yesterday for £148 with TCB 3% :smile: let's c when it arrives. Any links for strong screen protector that fits it well. Not bothered about case/cover

These fit my wife's Redmi Note 4 Global just fine. Choice of colours too lol.

aliexpress.com/ite…SsN

May I ask which postage option you chose & how long it took?

The free delivery option and it took 10 days.

Would this be able to run Hearthstone smoothly? I haven't paid any attention to phone tech since buying my 1st gen moto g and that's the most demanding thing I'd run on a new phone.

What's the rate tart option with the sim cards I'm assuming sim 2 is 2g only so a three 321 / three data reward setup,wouldn't work so the next best option is o2 classic / three data reward at 5 p / min

mi.com/sg/…cs/
Dual SIM use: When two SIM cards are used simultaneously, the primary SIM can support 4G+/ 4G / 3G / 2G calls and data while the secondary SIM can support 3G calls only.

It's 4G+3G, rather than 4G+2G so dual Three SIMs would work.

thanks man

Did anyone got it shipped? Been over a week, still not marked as shipped.

Hi got email today that mine has been shipped and tracking no provided

My order is also stuck in Awaiting Shipment stage since Wednesday. Very cross as I ordered few items from other sellers and all of them were dispatched next day. Xiaomi MC Store can forget positive feedback now.

I only ordered yesterday so I am not holding my breath now for a quick dispatch.

Damn!!, it's a shame I missed it when it was £137!. :-(

And missed it by just over 1 week as well ... (and it was cheap as chips at the time as well!).

Ohhhhhhhh well?, lol.

I doubt it'll ever be that cheap again, huh? (which is such a crying shame really ... )

Well, it arrived and it is GREAT! Just one big problem - I have spent two hours now, and I cannot get it to connect to 3 data. Voice, sms, everything else is fine. But I have been through all the settings, changed preferred data etc, still no mobile data.

Has anyone else got this phone working on 3 UK?

I'm fairly certain there's nothing wrong with the phone or your settings and that the problem is due to Three data being down in your area. I haven't had data connection since around 5pm (on a different phone to this).
twitter.com/Thr…088
downdetector.co.uk/pro…ap/
hotukdeals.com/dis…387

Ugh! Do you know, because it must have happened at exactly the time I was swapping the SIM from the old to new phones, I assumed it was the new phone at fault! I spent flipping ages trying to sort it - very grateful to you for posting this.

Judging by the comments on the downdetector link, it appears to be coming back now in quite a few areas. Just noticed mine is back too. So if yours has still got the same problem, it'll probably resolve itself shortly :thumbsup:

Right, so there's been a issue with the 3 network? I've not had data since about 5 of clock

Has your status of the phone changed? I ordered mine on the 1st of September and mine still says awaiting shipment too!

Same here, ordered on 31st August and still awaiting shipment.

No change, still awaiting shipment. Really pis**d off now and have contacted seller who replied that they have backlog and order would be processed asap

Just got the email that it's been shipped

Finally got confirmation this morning that the phone is shipped with Singapore Post. Hopefully this will arrive in a week or so.

Yeah got an email on Friday saying it's been shipped but when I checked AliExpress, it still needs to be shipped from China so not expecting a quick delivery.

Anyone know which phone case and glass screen protector I should order?

I ordered these for my dad's phone which finally has shipped

Screen Protector

Case

So how's everyone getting on with their Redmi?

Don't think this will turn up anytime soon. Got shipment notification on 9th Sep, still waiting. I expect this to come via the snail mail in few weeks.

Can any kind soul link me to the correct case which has a square cut out on the front of the case so one can see the message without flipping open the case. For the redmi note 4 global edition. Thanks

Mine was on the plane from China to the UK earlier this morning. Will hopefully get it by later on this week.

Has anyone received theirs yet? I'm starting to get slightly impatient now

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If getting that Nilkin listing, be sure to select the Note 4X option otherwise the smart wake/sleep functionality of the flip cover won't work for RN4 Global Version.

ive got so many things coming from banggood and gearbest ive lost track of everything..lol

I have asked elsewhere before but no replies.
But can someone confirm if on taking a call, its not possible to reduce volume below 20% ie to zero.
This happens with headset and without. This minimum volume is still too loud on headset for me.
Is it just my unit?

Mine's still on a plane from China, after three days, that's one slow plane!

Think you're right, I listen to radio while falling asleep and find that can be to loud also, everything or nothing at lower end of volume

Mines is the exact same :disappointed:

Whoa, the plane's landed, my phone is now in GB. :smile:

And, it can be tracked on Royal Mail's "Track and Trace."

Look's like I'll get it before Christmas after all :sunglasses:

Did you order it via the tracking option?

Don't think so, just standard, cheapest delivery. The tracking number from Aliexpress.com works with Royal mail.

DW they only update the tracking info every 3 days or so.

Mines reached 'shipping destination' yesterday but still needs to be sorted and go through customs I would imagine

Received yesterday, no customs charges. Thanks op.

Yes, received mine this morning. :grin:

Just got mine yesterday but I hate the miui. Is it just me missing the whole android experience?
I used to be able to (on my wileyfox swift phone) quick reply to texts and WhatsApp messages from the notification panel which I can't do anymore. I also can't split screen and multitask on this miui.
Plus why is it trying to be so much like an iOS interface? I like having an android feel to my phone

Have you installed a launcher. Can't live without nova

Got my phone in 2 weeks. Very happy with the service from AliExpress and the seller. no custom charged and very well packaged. Came with screen protector and transparent cover. Phone is top notch. For £148 it is a real steel. Sealed box and ready to go. No Chinese apps or custom rom. Doesnt seem cheap at all. Very well-built and looks beautiful in black. Definitely faster than my old LG G4 and the battery is amazing. Mi software is also quite good and intuitive - though agree with above user that it is quite similar to iOS. Had an issue or 2 with Gmail not syncing and Female for English notification but both solved after Googling. Using Nova launcher so that is quite helpful. Only thing I thought it will come preloaded with Android 7 (Nougat) but it is still on 6. I am hoping it will get an update soon. Cant understand people still buying Samsungs Sonys Apples when you are getting so much value with Redmi. First time for me with Chinese phone and I am already impressed. Hope it will last at least a yr as the only main issue is the warranty

Well I need some advice. Gearbest have messed up my order and saying the redmi 3 discontinued. They are offering me a redmi note 4 in exchange.

Can anyone give me some pointers on which version so it works with the ee and three networkd in uk.

I have a Redmi Note 4 with both a EE and 3 sim in and they both work fine. It's the Global Editon from Aliexpress.

Well, it took just 29 days to arrive, will never use this particular store in the future. No problem with the phone but but the supplied cover is pathetic, true Chinese rubbish, need to look for a better option.
Btw back camera sensor on ours is s5k3l8 so inferior Samsung

How'd you check the camera sensor? Thanks

See bellboys post

Thanks have also got the Samsung sensor

Well, now I know why the image quality is so poor. Really the only downside of this phone, but what a downside!
Really, really poor low light - lots of images very badly blurred too. Also, lots of pixel artefacts... having come from an Honor 7 where photo taking was a joy with stunning images, this is a real let down if you get the Samsung sensor.

Which is a real shame, because in all other respects, this is a superb phone.