So? You might have stayed awake all night looking at all the deals but some of us actually have a life and from time to time miss deals so thanks OP

Cars with 0 emissions are 0 not a sliding scale like the old system it's £0 then £145 then onwards and upwards from there!!! Bloody redic

You can't get much for £20k these days. Even a Skoda of similar size will be upwards of £25k. Good deal if you want a well built car regardless of badge snobbery.

Or do more than 5k a year like most people!

When someone uses the phrase "bitch, please" in their sentence can you really expect the grammar to be absolutely spot on?

Its manual. Check Mercedes website for just the standard SE car for the spec.

DONT opt to pay the £500 for the Garmin Nav upgrade. It just needs a card slotted in.

ebay.co.uk/itm…~x6

Thanks.....Where can I find the fullspec? Is it auto or manual?

You would need to check with drivethedeal on that one i think :smile:

Any idea if you have to finance the full balance c18k or can you get the discount and only ever sign up to say 6k finance

Its nothing to do with the dealer. Its a finance contribution by Mercedes finance. Its effectively discounting through the back door, but it helps preserve the price of used cars.

There is nothing to stop you clearing the finance and getting the benefit of the £4,770 contribution.

No. This is a PETROL car. As i keep saying, NO you cant subtract £2,000 from the price here.

Also, for clarification, the price of the car is £23,425. If you take out the finance, then Mercedes finance contribute a further £4,770 to the deal, meaning you're only financing £18,655. You then "settle the finance" within 14 days by paying off the financed amount £18,655 plus a few days interest.

The 14 days is a bit of a misnomer - you dont have to pay it off within 14 days. You can pay it off at any point but by letting it sit for 14 days its getting the finance agreed and in place and you're then settling it.

Is there ANYTHING which stops them allowing you to pay it off? I can`t help but feel they won`t want to give up nearly £5,000 "sales tax"

Is this one of those then?

At £19,000 minus £2,000 for my Zafira tank I would order one and pay off the finance as you suggested ( which I hope I understood that can be paid off within 14 days to keep the £4,770 contribution? )

Positive. This is not a government backed scrappage scheme. Its effectively a sales pitch by the manufacturers.

These cars are sitting in a compound somewhere, have been bought by the dealer from Mercedes group stock and are being disposed of at close to cost price.

There is not a mission that Mercedes are going to allow these cars to qualify for an extra £2,000 of discount.

EDIT: And from a quick google of the terms of the Mercedes "scrappage" scheme - "Any Euro 1-4 car can be traded in, regardless of brand, although the discount can only be applied to low-emission Mercedes diesels. "

Are you sure? I was wondering the same since the scrappage deals often state in addition to the deal you get from your dealer

No.

can this be done with the 2k scrappage deal?

Road tax is based on car emissions and the higher is the figure the higher is the tax. It is basically environment tax. In the other hand what the government do with these billions of pounds every year to improve the air we breath it is a big question mark and it is not only in the uk but in many other countries.

Whats the specific model and trim level? What tyres are you running?

And were those wheels standard?

Road noise could be down to the tyre itself - some tyres are noiser than others, and harshness suggests suspension either set up specifically for performance or not designed for such big wheels.

We dont get any of that in our A45 and its running 235/35 R19s. I think its running Michelin Pilots. Yes, theres road noise and an element of firmness, but not to the degree you're talking.

Our Merc rides on 19" wheels and is one of the most unforgiving, bumpy rides I've ever had the misfortune to experience. Don't even get me started on the resonating noise of the low-profiles on a concrete motorway surface...

No.

Yes. And then you cancel it immediately and get the benefit of the £4770 contribution.

Whats the issue? It would be the best paid 5 minutes effort of your life.

Do you think you can get the £2000 scrappage on top of this price Merc offering for old diesels?

Wait, you have to add £4770 to the price unless you're taking it out on finance or PCP. It's boy that great a deal then.

No, you wont get that extra discount from the dealer. The dealer doing that advertised deal be flat out at the discount they're giving for that drivethedeal price.

I dont think your local dealer will be able to come close to the pre finance discount price. These will have been cars ordered up to meet a specific target or that have been built and are sitting around in a storage compound for too long and are being blown out.

Mercedes OWNS the finance company - Mercedes Finance - so theres no kickback between the finance company and the manufacturer.

Understood. Thanks. Maybe the same sort of discount could be obtained by cash up front. Maybe less as the manufacturer wouldn't get a kick back from the finance company....

The whole amount financed becomes payable.

So say this car was £23,000 and there was a £4,000 contribution from the manufacturer / finance company. That would mean £19,000 would be financed. It would, in this case be made up of a monthly payment and a residual value. However it would be the full £19,000 that would be payable (plus maybe a small amount of interest). You're effectively "settling" the agreement.

It means you get the full benefit of the deposit contribution.

Quick Q I hope someone in the know will answer. On a PCP that carries a deposit contribution, does the whole balance become payable if you pay it off within 14 days....or is it just the balance that covers the initial 2 years (or whatever period is agreed), therefore leaving the balloon payment to pay to the car manufacturer, after the 2 years? (Or hand it back as a deposit on your next PCP deal). Hope the way the question is worded makes sense!!

I dont disagree with what you're saying but my Merc rides on 19" wheels and is the most comfortable car I've ever driven. Mercs generally have a decent ride, unlike Audis for example (not knocking Audis, I have a TTS as well).

That's a really good call. I will have a closer look at those. Cheers.

I've got a CLS AMG Shooting Brake. Only a 250, but plenty fast enough, and much better looking than the E class.

What you've said makes no sense. At all. Can you even count the fingers on both hands?

I don't think you get this. Current prices for this model show it will be worth £15k min after two years. That's £5k spent. You cannot lease this car over two years for £5k. There is no smarter way, being smarter would be choosing to do one thing with the money over another. There is only weighing up the options to get the best value which is the case of this car with a third knocked off its list price would be buying, not leasing. Leasing is often just enables people to get a car they would otherwise not be able to afford.

Okay! but you could pay off the finance within the 14 days? and not have to pay £23,425

OK so you sell the car in 2 years time for £10K what you doing to do, buy another car I presume or keep it. So if you buy new that's another £9K+inflation. Leasing will save you almost £2K every time and the car is new. I'm not even sure why you'd lease this car, there's loads of deals out there, where you can get even better value, but if you want this car lease it. Leasing is the smarter way to use the money.

Where did i say i wanted big alloys on a comfortable car? :thinking:

I want a comfortable car.
I want big alloys.
Pick one. The bigger the wheel the more the car crashes about.

Yes, thats the trick. That gets you the full value of their contribution.

Wow, so much venom, so many assumptions, so many insults.... It seems ok though to behave like a cock and be insulting to others as long as you add "no offence" to the end of the sentence. No offence. :wink:

Firstly, Its poverty spec not because it doesnt have 20 inch alloys and a body kit and a big engine but - as i'd already said in one of my other posts - because it doesnt have the waftiness and comfort levels i'd expect of a (non AMG) Mercedes. All in my humble opinion of course. Your view may differ. As a minimum i'd be expecting an auto box, less hideous looking alloy wheels (not necessarily bigger but maybe an upgrade to a nicer styled 17 inch wheel to fill those arches a bit better), metallic paint, sat nav (which can be added to the base price on this car, granted), maybe heated seats, and ideally really leather not fake leather.

Its the entry level saloon car in the entry level spec in the entry level non metallic colours and other than stick the NAV card in it, you cant pick any options. Personally, that doesnt do it for me. If it impresses you, then great.

I've also already said if i was looking for a Merc saloon i'd look at something like an approved used E350CDI in AMG Line trim and an auto box just to get that big 6 cylinder waftiness and lots of toys. At a push maybe an E250. I'd prefer a used one of those to a new one of these. See how easy it is to have an opinion that differs from someone else without resorting to insults? :wink:

No.

You need to take out the finance to get the £4,770 contribution from Mercedes finance.

If you dont take out the finance you pay £23,425 for the car.

From the site "Please note if you do not wish to take out this finance please add £4,770 to the price quoted."

If you're considering one of these, take one for a test drive before committing yourselves. I wish we had. The current C class must have the worse, most unintuitive, buggy, frustrating control systems of any car on the market today? (Well, in our opinion :))
Also - the C200 returns surprisingly poor MPG (vs. the book quoted figures). Although we have the estate, we're averaging ~28mpg round town and ~34mpg on a long journey (in eco). Local dealership says these values are 'as expected'.

It's not for pre-pubescent teenagers like you though is it. It's for people of a certain age, who value a comfortable ride, over their blinging alloys to impress the next manchild along.
No offence :thinking:

OK clever clogs, post detail of how much a lease contract costs for comparison.
I just done a quick search of how much it would cost over 2 years for 10k miles pa, and it worked out at nearly £8.5k in total for this car. £8.5k with no option to buy at the end, and that's without a maintenance package.
If you bought it instead for nearly £19k, it would be worth more than £10k in 2 years time with 20k miles on it. By my reckoning buying is cheaper.

Why would you lease it for 3 years? Where do you get 3 years from? Lease it for 2 years and repeat, if you can't see how you'll save thousands over buying new well no one can help you really.

Yeah sure! But what about next year?

If it was an "expose" then it was a wasted opportunity - unless of course thats all they could get to sling mud at.

And your woman with the big repair bill because she'd had her car wrecked and badly fixed? Hardly the finance companys fault. Theres published guidelines they follow.

Pretty poor quality show. It was all common sense to the typical user of this site but I suppose it does have value in warning the average Joe on the street against putting too much faith in what a salesman at a dealership tells them.

There was nothing on the show that I'd class as new information that could debunk the idea that the typical PCP or PCH deal that goes hot on HUKD is actually a good deal.

Regarding the emissions/diesel discussions, where is the relevance in relation to the value, or lack thereof, present in a PCP/PCH deal?

You can clear the finance but still avail of the deposit contribution

Yes if you get it on hire purchase. If you want to buy it "not hire" then £4770 extra.

It's got me thinking, I can tell you.

What people are suggesting is get the HP then cancel within 14 days. But by the looks of things you can get the car without HP. When taking out a HP you need £4770 deposit , so the HP will be 18k minus 5k , alternatively it's just 18k. You can always check with the supplier but that's what I've understood.

Pitfalls indeed.

Great Price for a merc.. this makes it cheaper than a Mondeo!

Mercs get stolen and shipped to Poland etc before finding their way to Greece or Cyprus.

Was it Albania where over half of Merc c class on the road were stolen or something?

Tens of thousands of people have disappeared in Syria feared tortured and murdered because they leased a car?? :fearful:

Thank you. :smile:

Lovely house and motors.

For those buying or leasing a car should have a look at C4 program the other night showing the pitfalls that can occur,,,
channel4.com/pro…001

I dont imagine too many people will walk in and hand over £19,000 of their own hard earned for one. They're generally financed in some form.

Also statistically most people buying new will run it for 3 years and then replace it.

Within those boundaries leasing becomes more viable.

Maybe its ok in quantity in better shaped seats. When its in the entry spec SE then i dont think it adds to the overall experience as it were.

Well you did ask. :relaxed:

Thats very good. I think my Passat TDI would be revving higher than that in 6th gear at that speed!

ok
OK, you win the internet today!

We've a Mercedes AMG 45 we bought brand new in November 2016, a 2016 Passat TDI and i've also a 2012 Clio RS200 Cup.

If i was considering adding another Merc, i'd chop in the 2016 Passat and go for new model approved used E350CDI Sport or similar.

You take one thread on a deals forum on the internet as your mantra for personal finance? The only truly sensible way to lease a car is to have the remainder of the lease saved up in your emergency fund.

Any justification? How much would it cost to lease this for 20k miles a year. For £20k you'd get three years at absolute best. In 3 years and 60k miles this will be worth £10k.

You'd lease this car if you couldn't afford to pay upfront. That's the only reason.

Hi yes its a petrol. Was suprised that the rpm was that low at that speed. my Mk6 gti is like 3k+rpm at that speed.

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Can't afford one mate?

I have artico leather in a 40k C Class coupe. I decided against the real leather as you can barely differentiate, even the salesmen told me to only spec it if I wanted a specific colour.

A bit like a beached whale. Does it look better in a dark colour, even if that is less fashionable?

I've never understood the traction this sentiment has, aside from being ridiculously simplistic it doesn't appear to have any other major virtue. Firstly the line between appreciating and depreciating assets isn't cast in stone. There are developed parts of the world where houses are seen as generally depreciating assets (even if land isn't) and if you'd bought property in Tokyo 30 years ago rather than renting you I doubt this mantra would make you feel better.

Even taking extreme examples out it is still too simplistic to be reliably correct. Buying cars is generally cheaper than leasing unless you buy new, and buy a models that depreciates heavily in the first couple of years and get rid of them a couple of years after buying. Someone is paying for that depreciation during the time you lease and you can bet it isn't the manufacturer or the lease company who both need to make a profit to stay in business.

They had a problem with rusting in the late in the mid 90s/early 2000s, but think that's is a thing of the past. My old SLK has admittedly had its fair share of paintwork to keep the rust at bay! My 3 year old CLS is rust free and hand on heart one of the best cars I have ever driven. Soooo comfy and smooth.

Perhaps Mercedes shouldn't name it Artico "Leather" then if it wouldn't be compared to leather. Yes, it is better than cloth but its not for me. I have the real thing in my CLS Shooting Brake and SLK :smile:

Seems like my comment about how bad mercedes are now these days has been removed.
Rust buckets

Best customer service i have ever received from any company so i guess it must be down to the dealer. I am after another AMG if you want rid of it (cheap of course)

The Artico Leather shouldn't be compared with real leather. MB does have a real leather option just like any other car manufacturer. This Artico Leather is a substitute for the cloth seats offered by other car manufacturers and is definitely better than cloth!
And it seems quite durable too judging by the condition of the upholstery in the E-class taxis I've been in.

Wheels can be easily upgraded, but must admit I wouldn't want the fake leather seats. Other than that, what else is this car missing that every other car for £18k would have?

Yep the logic makes sense. But I rarely find a lease deal that works out cheaper than buying. I leased once and hated it. Just didnt feel like my car (cos it wasnt) and was paranoid about getting the slightest scratch on it. I wouldnt do it again.

True. If the wheels bother anyone there's plenty of upgrade mercedes style rims available

Terrible customer services. Worst car dealers I've ever had the misfortune of using. To apologise for all the problems I had they gave me a "free" car clean during my last service - resulting in scratches all over my dashboard and centre console, they even chipped my wheel!! Definitely wouldn't recommend Mercedes and will steer clear in future. Even though I enjoy driving my AMG I'm looking forward to selling the car!!! It's just not worth the stress of having to deal with the main dealers. If you value your sanity steer clear...

Fair is fair really - It's a brand new luxury car for £19k and it's not a diesel. Seems like a good deal if those are your only criteria.

Legally, however you do have rights. In a not dissimilar way to a mortgage

And likewise, theres nothing to stop you taking out the PCP / HP on this car, getting the benefit of the finance incentive then paying it off a matter of days later invoking very little interest if any

Hire purchase - so the company legally owns it until you complete your payments, right?

The quote was never meant to apply to the lifecycle of a car whereby someone could buy new and run from cradle to grave as it were.

However, if you are planning on buying and running a car for a set period of 2-3 years and then disposing of it, leasing can often work out as cost effective or more cost effective without tying up your own capital.

Each to their own and to their personal circumstances at any given point in time. There is no right or wrong answer.

Because you're unlikely to get retail main dealer prices for your car at trade in?

I would say knock £3,000-£4,000 off the dealer price for your trade in price.

Berk in a Merc.

If you are only losing £1k in the first year acoroding your calculations then that must make this a decent deal?

Agreed. That mantra needs to be qualified:
1) If you like having a brand new car every couple of years, then leasing is for you - if it depreciates, lease it blah blah, this only holds true whilst depreciation costs exceed the leasing cost. This is also why I'd say 4yr leases (and maybe even 3yrs) are poor value.
2) If you like to own a car from new for most of its life, buy new. Or buy 1yr old to get better value.
3) If you don't mind not having a new car, then you're probably better off buying a 3-5yr old car and running it for 3-4yrs, then get another etc - your depreciation will be much lower in these years and the car still relatively young.

Would much rather get a second hand one like a 13 plate C250 with better specs and a better engine.

I hear this a lot. It depends what type of car and how often you want to swap it.

Here's where the "if it depreciates lease it" model fails:
I bought an MG ZR brand new for £6k. Having been well maintained by myself (cheap) it's still going strong 14 years later and is perfectly usable car. What would 14 years of leasing cost?
(It's been archived now but kept running as a fall back)
What's more, by keeping it in in good condition long enough it may even start to appreciate.

I get that's not the norm however and you should read Rich Dad Poor Dad and follow that general pattern of advice.

I got so much pum when I got a merc

Great if you like Mercedes, I had one as a courtesy car for some time, in fact similar to the model here but better spec. I couldn't believe how tacky and plastic they are inside now. It's personal taste so I haven't voted as £10K is a big saving. Shiny black plastic wasn't for me.

Sadly you're probably right and explains why this deal is getting so hot

Fantastic deal thanks for posting

Everyone has an opinion. At the other end of the scale my brother in law just paid 5k for a 13 yo BMW X3. That doesnt make sense to me either but he thinks hes the king of all he surveys.

Recession white base spec audi/bmw/mercs seem to account for 90% of those marques on the road now. 90% of people dont understand the model numbers (esp now they dont often correlate to engine size) or trim levels. The badge on the front is all they care about.

Be careful as on first use, I think it locks itself to the car. So its ok to buy if its a brand new card but buyer beware if its a used one.

Facelift coming out soon. Probably clear out of the current model shape.

Is yours the petrol variant? Rpm sound very low for a petrol one?

are they?? Mine seem to work fine, can get my 6ft 4" son in no probs?

Not interested in the car but wanted to correct your statement.

"The quoted prices include a £4770 Deposit...." Meaning it's £18,665 + £500 and the car is all yours with a rubbish sat nav!

had mine for around 2 months now and absolutely loving it. Full of tech, and feels like your driving an armchair. very comfortable and can lap up the miles no problem. 80mph holds around 2krpm.

Great deal, and unlike with BMWs you don't necessarily have to be a complete **** to drive one.

You can buy the Garmin nav card yourself off Amazon or eBay for around £60. It just slots into a card slot in the dash.

The deal is subject to taking out a hire purchase agreement at 4.9%, but there is nothing stopping you from cancelling this agreement within 14 days of taking delivery of the car.

18,665+4,770+500? = car is yours with a satnav.

Amazing deal, heat added

I wish it was that simple. Afaik, lots of luxury watches have gone down in price due to pressure from smartwatches.
Properties in the UK go and then they crash...

Yes it would be an auto box for me. Suits the cars really well and mercedes do a great auto.

I'd personally run with AMG Line trim level but that adds a lot to the price. I'd prefer a used one in the right spec than a new one in the wrong spec.

This exact deal seems to appear every 3 weeks, I'm beginning to wonder if it is not just a Drive the Deal employee (or two) getting a free advertisement (the poster's claim to the contrary looks a bit suspicious).

The last time this was posted it only got to 200 degrees, so the strategy seems to be working :-)

PS. By the way, I do think this is a good price for a new car.

I am no expert in the mechanical side but i was looking at the golf when a colleague suggested i tried the bmw. All i can say is that i found the bmw a much nicer drive especially over longer runs. I have also heard that drivers doing high mileage have had trouble with back stiffness due to the slightly offset position of the pedals on the golf, however like i said i am no expert and based on my own experience was just suggesting that it may be a possibility for you :-

Mercs are nice to drive but I prefer automatic gearbox over manual Merc anyday.

White or silver really suits these cars

And people believe hybrids save emissions.....no, just another mith from the manufacturers the engine cuts in and out producing more emissions. In actual fact start stop technology using 80% torque on the engine probably uses more emissions restarting the car?
gree Ram is unfair and requires rebranding.

The base models are there for marketing so they can say 'C Class starts from £XX,XXX'. Generally speaking you'll get a Merc that does the basics right, but I'd argue you could go with another brand and get a vehcile with all the extras they could throw at you for that price.

LOL I wish it was that simple. Not many assets appreciate in value except properties and luxury watches.

Salesman brother who does 60k a year said its worst company car hes had. Terrible customer service with extortionate service costs and unnecessary additional costs told he needs done to maintain warranty. Awfull uncomfortable drive. Hes changing it year early as its that bad.

Heres what it'll look like

Came in a black benz left in a white one

To get the car for the advertised price you have to use Merc finance, not hugely different from leasing in reality

Not really much of a deal...well if you like new cars, sure. But You can get a 66 reg Merc c200 with 14k miles for about £18k too. That just shows the depreciation of this car in the first year is quite large. I would never promote buying a new car as just driving the car out of the store means you just lost £5k. But depends on people i guess!

Great price, I was interested in the c350e for £29k as few months back (posted as a deal) but immediately put off by the extortionate £450 a year in tax - for a plug in hybrid! Well done Govt.

Won't look much like the pic. It will be on 16 inch wheels.

Also artico leather is man made leather so modern day vinyl.

Cheap car, though what are you really achieving driving a poverty spec Merc?

heavy sluggish cars, hate mercs

There is always a lot of debate about leasing vs buying but one thread on here sealed it for me. It said try to always lease a depreciating asset, only buy assets that appreciate in value. I think that's sound financial sense that difficult to oppose.

I've been seeing these on the site for a while. Problem it's base spec. All the useful features are additional extras and can't be added on a mid range polo has more tech then a £30k merc. Your buying the badge not the car. I'm in the market for a merc c or e class but whilst this is cheap it hasn't got the features I'm after

Does this have a built in sat nav?

The same thing (okay, a different model is quoted, but it is the same Drive the Deal MB offer) was posted only a couple of weeks ago:

hotukdeals.com/dea…263

What is the point of posting the same thing over and over again?

Owned a Mercedes C class for the last 18 months, certainly not impressed with the dealership or alarm system.

the more technological advanced these cars get, the more electrical faults crop up

Agree with admast79

Hahaha @ keeping road safe ... in my town lots of pot holes and cracks on roads even leading to busting car tyres .

England also has terrible English and grammar now too.

Lol how much is this worth in 3 years? A third roughly...

Don't buy a new car, lease it, unless you're going to keep it for years.

This'll be the one with ugly wheels, at least you'd own it unlike all the other C classes that are leased. So many of these on the road now that Mercedes aren't even cool anymore.
Save your money and get a used C63.

Whats the 4.5 grand extra they mention?

Why do all Greek and Cypriot taxi drivers drive these type of vehicles? I thought Greece were on their ass.

It is manual :angry:

What a steal??????

Is it an automatic or manual?

Good price to get into a new Merc but if this is a manual shift, it might be difficult to sell on when the time comes.:{

Back seats are pretty much useless on the c class, still a great price for a Merc.