Appreciate this is far from a deal for everyone, or indeed anybody without a specific need to own arguably one of the finest processors ever created, but this price represents a £50 saving over the UK stores.
This CPU was designed for professional applications, deep learning, AI, rendering and so on, but it will of course do anything you want of it, they also OC extremely well to 4.1GHZ.
Maybe named by Australians. "How many thread's your CPU got, 32?! That's ripper mate!"
Crossbow to Destard
12 Aug 17#52
Threadripper = new name for a troll on HUKD - you heard it here 1st :raised_hand:
vulcanproject
11 Aug 17#36
Good if you are setting up your own small CGI animation/rendering company. Not so useful for the other 99.999999 percent of us. It's a deal like a discounted industrial trouser press is a deal, so take it at face value
The_Hoff to vulcanproject
11 Aug 17#38
It's not mainstream and it's not meant to be.
I mean, it's not as if Intel have tried to do the same, the only difference is they dropped the ball.
12th highest CPU in the Amazon.com sales rank, I'd say the market is bigger than you anticipate.
vulcanproject to The_Hoff
11 Aug 17#41
I'm sure if Intel find their sales heavily impacted they will just lower their prices.
Of course this is much higher up the list than it ever would be, it's the weekend of it's release......I would say more like the market isn't as big as you think it is for $1000 HEDT consumer CPUs.
The_Hoff to vulcanproject
12 Aug 17#46
Who said it's a consumer chip only? You?
vulcanproject to The_Hoff
12 Aug 17#47
It's a HEDT consumer chip. If you contend it isn't then take it up with the entire universe that says it is.
It's also been out a day and dropped a bunch of rankings on amazon below all the $50 celerons so meh.
The_Hoff to vulcanproject
12 Aug 17#49
In the same way that every i7 and Xeon have always been consumer. Consumers demand ECC memory support obviously.
If you were starting out or worked in a CAD or graphic/media business I'd love to know what you'd spec.
vulcanproject to The_Hoff
12 Aug 17#50
i7 is just a moniker for high end processors on any given platform these days, not exclusive to HEDT. Xeon is non consumer, server/workstation etc.
This is not mainstream and it's not server which are the two largest markets by miles. It's a very limited, very niche HEDT consumer chip and platform. It's basically a halo product. High margins, but very low volume. I don't know why I had to tell you this but now you know.
The_Hoff to vulcanproject
12 Aug 17#51
I was interested to hear your very unique opinion. You don't understand.
technobot to The_Hoff
12 Aug 17#45
You're exactly right, look at the passmark chart for high end CPU's:
The 1950x is top of the list which is where it belongs, It feels so good to see AMD, the underdog doing this well, I hope it continues and it should encourage Intel to get their thumb out of their rear. :grin:
mackashworth
12 Aug 17#48
Went with a 1700. Loving it!
Rojo66
11 Aug 17#44
I'm so happy that AMD are back in the game. Going to be looking at an AMD system on my next build.
So much better value than anything Intel can offer right now. :party:
hitman2411
11 Aug 17#43
Bought a 1700x a few weeks ago but would love one of these for game development work. The 1920x is also about £750 from amazon.de so a saving of £50 too.
dan_lesser
11 Aug 17#42
There are 1,000s of people that can use processors like this. Using CAD/CAM, rendering high level calculations etc. Architects, scientists, movie editors, animators etc.
Not for gaming.
dozstanford
11 Aug 17#1
Ok, with the exception of folding, mining and other niche uses, exactly what software utalises more than 4 cores ?
emodan to dozstanford
11 Aug 17#2
Playing games whilst streaming it also. Rendering software like blender and essentially all productivity software available for video editing
CampGareth to dozstanford
11 Aug 17#5
I've got 16 cores in my system (dual old xeons) and it can stream while gaming really well. I'm also slowly converting video from h264 to h265 for the space savings, that takes weeks on a quad core but days on my system.
Roger_Irrelevant to CampGareth
11 Aug 17#8
Out of interest how are you doing the video conversion? I'm assuming if there's loads of them it's some batch file or other util where you just point it at a folder then tell it to get on with it?
Interested in doing this as I have about 1Tb of comedy and 2 of documentaries that would benefit from x265 if there's no detectable loss of quality. :nerd:
CampGareth to Roger_Irrelevant
11 Aug 17#30
In my tests there's no noticeable quality loss until you blow up a frame to 500% or so, then it's possible to notice a very weak de-noise effect.
Unfortunately I'm not doing batch processing though I really should be, it's all manual Handbrake for now. It shouldn't be hard to write a bash script that runs a command on a file when there's a new file in a folder, a batch script running against a NAS on the other hand... (Windows user :disappointed: )
taras to CampGareth
11 Aug 17#33
on handbrake you can queue a folder worth of files to be converted
Roger_Irrelevant to taras
11 Aug 17#37
But don't you have to set the options and output file on each one?
I'm sure there should be an avconv.exe command along the lines of...
for each (file) in (folder) avconv.exe %in.mp4 %out.mp4 -format x265 Next
Or something but I've not used it for ages.
powerbrick
11 Aug 17#3
"Better than Intel in almost every way", except when it gets totally crapped on by a 7740K in gaming.
Ashe to powerbrick
11 Aug 17#6
By "totally crapped on", I guess you mean like how in the review they say "So compelling is the overall Threadripper package that these small differences in gaming performance matter little" ?
The_Hoff to powerbrick
11 Aug 17#7
In the same way that an aeroplane craps on a bicycle. What other irrelevant comparisons can we make?
7900x/Xeon is the only comparison you should be making, go read.
powerbrick to The_Hoff
11 Aug 17#12
Read what? Your analogy make no sense? I just replied to the quote you posted, not my fault if you gave it no context.
Also if you were using this chip in a professional environment you wouldn't be overclocking.
Now wheres that Vega :smile:
Incidently I did vote it hot, cause its a good price.
The_Hoff to powerbrick
11 Aug 17#13
Did you read the Ars Tec review before you took the time to troll?
They like it, you don't, you have an opinion, they know what they're talking about. Subtleties I guess!
powerbrick to The_Hoff
11 Aug 17#15
Please feel free to highlight where I said I didn't like it?
The_Hoff to powerbrick
11 Aug 17#16
Think we've run our course mate, you don't understand the product, that's fine. It's niche as a HEDT processor.
For those wanting such a thing, it's the cheapest price.
Tim1292 to powerbrick
11 Aug 17#25
It doesn't need to be overclocked anyway, it has XFR which will take it to the maximum overclockable frequency of 4.2 GHz. I think all overclocking will do is force all cores to run at that speed instead of only one or two.
strukef to The_Hoff
11 Aug 17#35
but bicycle craps on aeroplane in parking at your local Tesco
K1LLER_HORNET to powerbrick
11 Aug 17#17
If you listen hard enough you can hear the faint sound of Intel sobbing in the corner.
7740K HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :popcorn:
Please tell me you bought that chip so I can laugh some more.
The_Hoff to K1LLER_HORNET
11 Aug 17#18
He'll be a few minutes mate, he's just cooking his breakfast on it.
paulpso
11 Aug 17#34
Is this an improvement on my K6-II 400MHz?
ws007
11 Aug 17#32
"arguably one of the finest processors"
till next week, month, year. :unamused:
othen
11 Aug 17#9
So, this is £50 off a £1000 processor that almost no one needs? Not very hot I'm afraid.
Kushan to othen
11 Aug 17#27
It's a hot deal for those that do need it. Just because you don't need it doesn't make it any less of a deal. You don't downvote a deal on a sofa because you already have one.
Keydogg to Kushan
11 Aug 17#28
This guy gets it
Picard123 to Kushan
11 Aug 17#31
Somehow I suspect that the type of person who spends £1000 on a CPU like this isn't really going to care about £50 here or there....
DevilzGtr
11 Aug 17#29
Can we finally build time machines with this? I really want to purchase some deals I've missed on this place.
Picard123
11 Aug 17#26
Uridium
11 Aug 17#23
I wonder does it support SMT (hyperthreading)?
Does ESXi even support Ryzen CPU's yet?
The_Hoff to Uridium
11 Aug 17#24
ESXi 6.5 U1 has full support for Ryzen, including SMT.
The_Hoff
11 Aug 17#22
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with gaming, let's keep it that way.
Nobody should be spending £950 on a processor for gaming, Intel or AMD.
If you have a use case that requires it, you render, you need huge compute performance you're building a platform, running a VM farm, this is as good as it gets.
Oneday77
11 Aug 17#20
With all this talk of cores. What happens to the empty husk of the Apples that get gutted to make these cores? Think of the fruit.
taras to Oneday77
11 Aug 17#21
awww poor apple :grin:
taras
11 Aug 17#19
hooooooooooot from me..
Considering this beast of a processor, does 4.1ghz on all cores, its a monster for the right application.
This is a niche product for those who need stupid amounts processing power. Otherwise, you should get a ryzen r7 or r5!. As for those who say "oh theres no program or game that needs more than four cores"
lets take that argument, ok, your games may today need only 4 cores, but windows needs some cores; take 2 because that makes windows pretty fluid. so straight off you need 6 cores.
Oh and those games are "yesterday games" as in they were made for specs 18 to 24 months ago. More and more games will use more than 4 cores, so that argument is dumb and stupid.
You should be getting as many cores and high ghz as possible(afford) (now that intel and amd are levelish on ipc)
MikeLondon
11 Aug 17#14
5% discount and you have to get fron Amazon.de - joker
donslibi
11 Aug 17#11
I thought it was an entire PC at that price, and the picture a PC case.
imak
11 Aug 17#10
My CSGO FPS is going.to.go through the roof!!!
emodan
11 Aug 17#4
If your buying an AMD cpu for gaming your better off with a Ryzen 5 as this is not a gaming cpu
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This CPU was designed for professional applications, deep learning, AI, rendering and so on, but it will of course do anything you want of it, they also OC extremely well to 4.1GHZ.
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I mean, it's not as if Intel have tried to do the same, the only difference is they dropped the ball.
12th highest CPU in the Amazon.com sales rank, I'd say the market is bigger than you anticipate.
Of course this is much higher up the list than it ever would be, it's the weekend of it's release......I would say more like the market isn't as big as you think it is for $1000 HEDT consumer CPUs.
It's also been out a day and dropped a bunch of rankings on amazon below all the $50 celerons so meh.
If you were starting out or worked in a CAD or graphic/media business I'd love to know what you'd spec.
This is not mainstream and it's not server which are the two largest markets by miles. It's a very limited, very niche HEDT consumer chip and platform. It's basically a halo product. High margins, but very low volume. I don't know why I had to tell you this but now you know.
m.cpubenchmark.net/hig…tml
The 1950x is top of the list which is where it belongs, It feels so good to see AMD, the underdog doing this well, I hope it continues and it should encourage Intel to get their thumb out of their rear. :grin:
So much better value than anything Intel can offer right now. :party:
Not for gaming.
Interested in doing this as I have about 1Tb of comedy and 2 of documentaries that would benefit from x265 if there's no detectable loss of quality. :nerd:
Unfortunately I'm not doing batch processing though I really should be, it's all manual Handbrake for now. It shouldn't be hard to write a bash script that runs a command on a file when there's a new file in a folder, a batch script running against a NAS on the other hand... (Windows user :disappointed: )
I'm sure there should be an avconv.exe command along the lines of...
for each (file) in (folder)
avconv.exe %in.mp4 %out.mp4 -format x265
Next
Or something but I've not used it for ages.
7900x/Xeon is the only comparison you should be making, go read.
Also if you were using this chip in a professional environment you wouldn't be overclocking.
Now wheres that Vega :smile:
Incidently I did vote it hot, cause its a good price.
They like it, you don't, you have an opinion, they know what they're talking about. Subtleties I guess!
For those wanting such a thing, it's the cheapest price.
7740K HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :popcorn:
Please tell me you bought that chip so I can laugh some more.
till next week, month, year. :unamused:
I really want to purchase some deals I've missed on this place.
Does ESXi even support Ryzen CPU's yet?
Nobody should be spending £950 on a processor for gaming, Intel or AMD.
If you have a use case that requires it, you render, you need huge compute performance you're building a platform, running a VM farm, this is as good as it gets.
What happens to the empty husk of the Apples that get gutted to make these cores?
Think of the fruit.
Considering this beast of a processor, does 4.1ghz on all cores, its a monster for the right application.
This is a niche product for those who need stupid amounts processing power. Otherwise, you should get a ryzen r7 or r5!. As for those who say "oh theres no program or game that needs more than four cores"
lets take that argument, ok, your games may today need only 4 cores, but windows needs some cores; take 2 because that makes windows pretty fluid. so straight off you need 6 cores.
Oh and those games are "yesterday games" as in they were made for specs 18 to 24 months ago. More and more games will use more than 4 cores, so that argument is dumb and stupid.
You should be getting as many cores and high ghz as possible(afford) (now that intel and amd are levelish on ipc)