Further Info:
https://pricespy.co.uk/product.php?p=4097521

Reviews:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/sennheiser-hd-450-btnc 4.5/5

http://uk.pcmag.com/headphones-reviews/89634/review/sennheiser-hd-450-btnc 3.5/5

http://majorhifi.com/sennheiser-hd-4-50-btnc-wireless-headphone-review/ Excellent

Specification/Blurb:

Sennheiser HD 4.50 BTNC Wireless Headphones
The new closed-back Sennheiser HD 4.50 Wireless headset offers just about everything music aficionados with an active lifestyle could wish for: A stunningly detailed and powerful sound, the latest wireless technology, intuitive ease of use and an elegantly minimalistic, yet robust design crafted from high-quality materials. But most of all: Sennheiser’s NoiseGard™ active noise cancellation, which lets you enjoy your music in peace – everywhere.

The Sennheiser HD 4 Series – Let everyday sound great
You can take it with you. Versatile and vibrant, the new HD 4 series offers you the complete Sennheiser quality package in a range of durable, closed-back over-ear headsets that fulfill your everyday aural needs.

HD 4.50 BTNC Wireless
This new headset was designed after the requirements of demanding listeners who are not content to just hear their music on the go, but want to enjoy it, no matter where. So we gave it our NoiseGard™ active noise cancellation – the power to eliminate any noise that could come between you and your music, which the HD 4.50 Wireless delivers to you in the renowned Sennheiser sound.

Only your music gets in your ears
When you enjoy the sound of the HD 4.50 Wireless, you enjoy the sound of your music. Period. The rest of the noisy world will be shut out by NoiseGard™, the active noise cancellation developed by Sennheiser. Thus, you can indulge in the refined sound reproduction of this great close-back headset: The rich details, the vividness and the powerful bass – brought to you by proprietary Sennheiser drivers.

Great sound with no strings attached
The HD 4.50 Wireless is about freedom – musically and physically. Thus, no cable. Instead, to appropriately complement the Sennheiser quality speakers, this headset comes with state-of-the-art wireless technology and audio codec for reliable transmission and true wireless Hi-Fi sound. While immediate and simple pairing with compatible devices is ensured by Near Field Communication (NFC).

Use your intuition
Everything about the HD 4.50 Wireless is well-conceived. Just get your fingers at the intuitive ear-cup mounted controls and you will feel what we mean. Together with the integrated microphones they make taking and making calls, changing tracks or adjusting the volume a breeze.

Comfort on every street
Streetwise, the HD 4.50 Wireless combines supreme comfort and maximum portability. With its around-ear design and deep, ergonomically designed ear pads it allows you to enjoy the most extended of listening sessions. While its robust foldable headband design can be neatly stowed away in the included protective case.

The joy of a long-lasting battery
Being out and about often means being apart from proper power outlets. Fortunately, the battery of the HD 4.50 Wireless lets you enjoy NoiseGard™-protected music for up to 19 hours (it lasts up to 25 hours with NoiseGard™ switched off).

Spectacular within, minimalistic without
If you develop a premium headset like the HD 4.50 Wireless a short-lived show look is not an option. We chose a sleek frame made of high-quality materials. Timelessly elegant. Making it a pleasure to behold, as well as to use – for many years to come.

Brilliant price . Now how to order in Spanish?!

nice deal :smiley:

Looks like a good find

so even if paying with revolut it's best to pay in GBP ?

Failed by Revolut, imagine that! I topped up my card and transfer has been "Awaiting" for last 20 minutes. Just speaking with support. Just my luck!

Cheers OP, bought myself a pair :smiley:

They usually take £1 off the card and the rest on dispatch, so assuming your order has been approved by Amazon you'll have time to sort it.

Otherwise if it won't go through, order via a normal CC and then retrospectively change the payment method from your Order page.

Just bought them with Revolut!
Been looking out for something like these!

Yep exactly. perfect for the train/tube

Phew, managed the second time!

£137 with Friday delivery. Amazing.

Thank you OP! I've been obsessed with finding a deal for them like this for weeks.

Mine was £137 for Friday delivery paying in GBP. Used the Monzo card

€149.54 for me. Using Revolut conversion that's £131.80.

I thought you pay in the local currency eg € to avoid the fee whereas if you pay in £ then amazon will do the conversion and charge their fee. Although im no expert so I could be wrong, can anyone clarify?

I chose to pay in € on Amazon. In Revolut my card is topped up in £. Revolut will perform the exchange when Amazon debit the funds, as your bank would otherwise do, the difference being Revolut don't charge for that currency exchange, where as a bank will charge a small fee.

That's how it had always worked for me at least.

Up until now Amazon haven't actually taken the money from my Revolut though. They charge on dispatch.

I presume your € total was the same as mine?

Ahh, so you've misunderstood my question. I've asked if I should pay in GBP meaning if I should use the coversion.

Importe de los productos: EUR 118,52
Envío y manipulación: EUR 6,10
Importe total antes de impuestos: EUR 124,62
IVA: EUR 24,92
Importe total del pedido: EUR 149,54
GBP 137.55*

It doesn't matter now.

If you have a fee free card (like nationwide credit card) then it's always been cheaper to pay in local currency

Yes it was, this is how I thought you did it, I was just getting confused at first, I thought you meant buy in £ on amazon originally, thx for clarifying (highfive)

Amazon just took the funds from Revolut, £132.32 with the Friday delivery.

That's what confused me too, including "Always pay in £ not €, your bank will charge you less." in the top description, hence I asked, but it's not big deal, only £5 difference and still a big saving.

My error, should have been the reverse on the OP, corrected now.

This or plantronics backbeat pro?

Is there a socket for a cable so they can be used on an airplane

If you were to get any problems, what is the returns processes like?,

Sorry to question Hoff so no cable but there is a socket? Thanks

Ordered, thanks OP.

I've got another Sony MDR-100ABN coming in from Currys, that one might go back if the sound quality of this is better :smile:

any ideas how this performs for phone calls? Bose and Sony both have problems in that area. Backbeat pro has a cable with a inline mike, so is better in that respect. I cannot find anything about any cable included or even if we can use a third party inline mic cable with this one.....

"Gracias, has realizado tu pedido."
I think I just bought another pair headphones...

does the cable have a mic on it though or will the one incorporate in the headset get used always? If the latter, then based on the positioning of the mic, it might pick up other sounds more - this is the problem with Bose QC 35.
BBP has the mic in the cable such that it will dangle in front of the users mouth so it picks up the users voice more than any surrounding noises.

price went up to EUR 169,84

€151.19 now.

Interestingly my headphones tracking information shows the item was sent from Peterborough.

Going to request my P&P back!

€145.15 now, seems to be changing very frequently indeed.

Mine got delivered. Really pleased with them.

Very comfortable, light and look and feel well made. Sound is very clear, range is extremely good, not really tested noisegard effectively yet.

Only criticism is the headband padding, not a problem for my head shape it seems but they could have done more in that area.

I'd give them a solid 8.5/10 so far.

Now, 142.80.

Now back to 148.31!

My should be delivered on Sunday, if from the UK, I ask for the postage back too...

€169.84 now.

Down to €139.83 now!

Good spot.

I've never witnessed and Amazon price change so frequently as this listing... weird.

Anybody on the fence, order away. Good sounding headphones.

Yeah, I treated myself at that lower price last night. Have some very reliable AKG 450s at present which I've had five years now but four different cables if memory serves so nice to ditch the cables.

Hard to justify given they all work perfectly fine but whatthehell.

I see that even with amazon prime the delivery costs are about 5£.

What happens if one needs to return the product? How expensive at that point?

You're not Prime on anything other than the UK site, unless you sign up for it.

Returns are free, if it's faulty, it's within the EU so no issue with grey stock.

Received mine. Love them.

Yeah, pretty good aren't they?

One issue I have is with noisegard turned on, if I walk heavy footed I can hear a thud in my ear. No issue turning ANC off while walking in fairness, but not noticed it on other ANC headphones... Used to have some Bose but got sick of the wind whoosh when walking.

At £126~ I'm very happy with them.

I had the same issue with a pair bought here in the uk and I personally found that to be a deal breaker. A clear flaw, as noise guard actually created a terrible sound when walking.
Hoped it was only my unit but then I kept reading of other people experiencing it...

I haven't found an ANC system that's flawless across any device, it's either horrendous wind noise or this.

How do you know when noise cancellation is on? When you long press to on/off it flashes purple lights three times but there's no clear indication when it's on or off . When you turn on the headphones is it turned on by default?

ANC is never on by default regardless of if it was on prior to turning off.

Best way to recognise it being on/off is if you have no music/sound playing. When you turn it on you'll notice a slight background noise, sort of like standing in a tunnel, this is the external microphones playing an ambient noise to cancel out the noise around you.

One of the benefits of these having used them some more is just how well they isolate the sound around you without ANC being on. With music playing at low volume there's very little I could hear outside of the music.

The walking noise is a real PITA though.

With regards to postage, did you write to amazon Spain or the UK? On my local UK account list order details does not exist.
Sound compared:
to my AKG K551, AKG is better (more crystal clear and more middle range) just a little,
to my Klipsch - Sennheiser way, way better.

Contact Amazon UK via chat, tell them as a Prime member you'd like to reclaim the postage costs, give them the order number. They'll transfer the issue to the ES team who will contact you RE a refund.

"I certainly understand that you have placed an order from Amazon.es and the item is shipping from UK warehouse. I certainly understand that you wish to have the delivery charge to be refunded as you a prime member of Amazon.co.uk
In this case, as you placed the order from Amazon.es, I will transfer the contact to the Amazon.es team and they will update you the details via email within 24 hours."

RE sound comparisons, they're not really fair comparisons (if you were expecting them to align), 32mm drivers vs 50mm drivers, portable and foldable on-ear vs over-ear non-folding or portable, wireless vs wired. I mean... my Audeze Sine sound better, but they're 70mm planar magnetic non-folding £350 headphones :smiley:

Thanks,
You are definitely right, however later when I went out with Spotify and the HD 4.50 - much better, more convenient, cable free and more reach with sound. Previously I was listening on my Yamaha amp...

:P
Thanks Mr Hoff
Te escribimos para confirmarte que hemos realizado un reembolso de 6,82 GBP
para tu pedido....

Ha, mine got rejected. Good work.

Got your conversation log handy?

I sent you pm

Anyone help with Revolut? Registered and used it for the first time for this purchase, using the virtual card. When I log into amazon.es, it prompts me to update/confirm payment details (and says that fine when I re-select the Revolut details). But I'm locked out of my Revolut app - was prompted to add the 4 digits from my debit card top up. Did that this morning, scanned the card (as prompted) and then got even more locked out!

I'm not sure whether the amazon.es purchase will go through but also there's not a lot of help on the Revolut app.

Use the chat feature within the app. They're pretty helpful.

Otherwise try following these steps:

If your account is blocked, there are two key things you should do:

Verify your identity:
If you open the app you should be given the option to ‘Verify your identity’. You will be prompted to take a photo of your international drivers licence/passport and a photo of yourself. Your account should be verified within 15 minutes. Please go to the Profile section of our support for more information on how to do this.

Confirm your top up card:
You should also be given the option to ‘Verify your card’. To do this, you just need to look at your online banking and find a recent top up to Revolut which looks like Revolut1234. Then, you need to go onto the app and enter the 4-digit code here. That’s it!

REF: https://revolut.com/faq/#my-account-is-blocked-what-should-i-do

Ta. I literally have no options in the app - I enter my PIN and just get a 'your account is blocked and we'll be in touch' kind of message. There's a pink button for support/chat but that is just a bot which says they can help with locked accounts.

I've sent them a DM via Twitter with the full story. Ta.

Cor! What an absolute ball-ache. Contacted Revolut support - wanted pictures of bank statements, my photo, my id, photo of me holding id. That's not that outrageous but then they wanted proof of a card which I didn't use to top up (I went to, then changed to a different card so they know the details). I don't have said proof to hand (at work, can't log in to that account without a card reader which is at home) so suggested they just delete that card as I'll never use it. Not good enough - still wanted proof. Then the pictures I provided earlier were too big so I had to do them again. At that point I just asked them to return my initial top up. It's more trouble than it's worth!

Appreciate not everyone has had that experience and if you make transactions overseas regularly, fair enough, but my word was that hard work for no gain!

Hmm not suffered that before, but at least I know it's secure :smiley:

Try Monzo, same deal and Revolut.

170 euro. Expired

Is anyone having delivery problems with amazon.es? I ordered mine on 20 July but it’s still not been dispatched and they have debited my card.

Mine came as promised mate, 2 days after I ordered, though I choose the faster delivery service. Drop them a message.

Ordered mine on the 20th of July. Still no dispatch.

Just to clarify around the use of these, ANC (noise cancelling) is ON by default. Unfortunately the LED indicator is useless, it blinks the same colour and number of times whether you turn it on or off (dumb).

If you out them on with them switched off and power them on (with no music playing) when in a suitable environment you'll immediately notice the background noise drop.

I've been wearing them a lot with no music even playing in the office, a great aid for concentration.

I emailed and their response included this - so worth contacting them to chase your order:

Also i have communicated with the distribution center and they informed me that because this is an international shipment,there has been delays in the process of logistics of international shipping, due to the availability of international carrier, and the shipping method chosen for this order, but this situation has been resolved and your product will be shipped soon.

I requested to speed up this delivery meet the estimated delivery date (lunes 31 de julio de 2017).

Ordered on the same day as you and mine is arriving tomorrow, the tracking said it was dispatched from Germany :confused:

Could be that they were low on stock hence the fluctuation in price and delivery dates.

Arrived?

Yeah, they're quite nice. The pouch could be a bit better, my gf saw it before seeing the headphones and asked if I've bought some 30-quids headphones :smirk:

First time using headphones with NC so my expectations were a bit over the top, I thought I wasn't supposed to hear any outside noise! :neutral_face:

Used them on the tube this morning and my it was such a different experience from when I was using Beats! I could actually hear the background sound in the track. Not sure if these or the Sony ones are better tbh, but for the price I'm happy with what I've got.

NC only ever stops continuous low frequency, it won't ever completely cut out a baby crying or more infrequent percussion.