Yeh its quite nice but I think this shows a bit more class in a business meeting :smile:

I'm not here to show off but rather help people finding a hotukdeal. This post is an area that is my vice in life, premium watches.

This watch does have a huge discount and if you like it, you can't go wrong at this price. Buy It.

However, for those that think because of the discount, a profit can be easily made whether immediate resale or increase in value over the years, you are wrong.

I don't think you would even get £4,000 for this watch as a brand new unworn straight sale to a watch trader.

Whilst a lot of the general public think that a £8k rrp watch is WTF there are many more expensive watches out there of different brands.

Looking at well known High Street brands mentioned in this thread, I would rank the brands like this:

TAG- 4-6/10
Omega- 5-7/10
Rolex- 7-10/10

As to retained value, the 'ONLY' watch that you can buy brand new at a high street shop today that has any chance of retaining value (whilst taking into account inflation) is a Rolex, and even then you have to choose carefully which model.

I'm not going to comment on vintage models as this is not the origin of this deal, it's for a brand new discounted Omega.

Ultimately, you should always buy a watch because you like it and want it. If it does retain value, then you got lucky. But with careful choices you can get a premium watch for free.... My personal experience.... I purchased at brand new Stainless Steel Black face Oyster bracelet Rolex Datejust in 2000. After discount (yes, you got discount on Rolex in those days) it cost me £1250. I sold it to a watch dealer last month for £2000. The watch was worn daily for the first few years then alternated with my other watches. Condition is good for age, but as I said before, after a Rolex Service, will look like new.

Taking into account inflation, at worse I broke even. At best I made some money, maybe enough a decent meal. But at the time, I did not buy the watch with this in mind. I just wanted a Rolex. So in reality I got to use a Rolex for free for 17years.

Do I have Omega? Yes, I do, one I bought in 2004, Omega Speedmaster Broad arrow in White face.

Has it gained money.....Not really. But I reckon it is just about breaking even because I got it very cheap (wholesale price at the time) If I had paid retail or shop discounted, I would definitely be down.

Am I pi$$ed it hasn't gained value.... Not really, because I bought it because I like it.

And that is the Conclusion:

The OP posted the watch at a very good discount. And it has done what I would expect..... to gain good heat.

The debate versus Rolex, Plastic, Casio.... Rich on HUKD... just makes the thread annoying. So annoying in fact that I have spent time to try and answer some of the questions raised on this thread.

Wouldn't it be great if HUKD can just be a place to share deals.....

An internet pic I found of my Omega.

many billionaires who wear very cheap watches i would not judge someone on the watch or car they drive period.

don't care about the 'we can afford it' etc. brigade. it's a watch, it tells time. no matter how much money you've got, if you're willing to spend 8 grand on something that tells time - you are a tit.

I beg to differ (because I know what I'm actually talking about and you don't). I had this watch. If you were to buy the equivalent model then that's £3K. Only way you'd think the midsize has less demand is if you're a complete numpty.

You can on a French scooter!

Nonsense, the midsize have little demand !

Deluded fool, aren't you a clever boy (y)

You can't have enough electrics on a French car :wink:

Most definitely, can't think of another car with double wishbones on the front and multi-link on the rear, with twin piston differential bored brake calipers, not to mention all the rest of the kit and features.

Sub 5k I would hunt down the 3.0 HDi, electric leather heated seats, electronically adapted dampers and of course the engine, used in the modern Jag XJ's so unbelievably smooth.

Nice car, one of the best cars around sub 5k. I had a 2001 986 boxster before the kids arrived which is another great car for value. Driving a C4 Picasso now lol.

I have an automatic Seamaster that I bought about twenty years ago for £850. It has worked perfectly every day. I got it serviced for the first time last year by Omega because it was looking pretty tired. It cost a bit under £400 and now looks new with a two year guarantee. I could now sell it for more than it cost (but not lots more). So I have enjoyed wearing it and it hasn't lost me money.

My watch has never been serviced nor does it need to be. You only 'service' a watch when it's not keeping time like it should be (well done for using Google).
God your're naive. I don't know anyone who services their watch every 5 years.

My dad bought this Rolex Datajust for £200 in the late 70's. It's worth about £3k now (Last time I bothered checking was 4-5 year ago and the value was about £2k). If you adjust for inflation £200 in 1978 is now about £1145.

I can't echo this enough....it's a known thing among people who buy and collect valuable watches that they go up in value. People who don't know this or dispute this simply have no idea, yet they come on here giving their misinformed opinions with ZERO experience on this subject. It's the same with the classic car market right now, you can buy a luxury classic car and park it in your garage and one week later the car value has gone up by i.e £10-20 (again this is a known thing among car collectors).

My Rolex Explorer 2 was bought in 2002 for £2300 is now worth about £4200. If you adjust for inflation £2300 in 2002 is now about £3500.

If you buy a car or TV for £2300 in 2002, how much is it worth now?......Nothing.

You could have also bought a 5 quid watch, invested the money in some bonds and made say a 12% gain on your investment..

Im missing the point?

Once again.. Its not going up in value. Adjusted for inflation the value has not changed.

Also my comment was in regard to those claiming this was a good investment its not making any return.

Yeah and had you got a Rolex it'll be worth twice as much as your campy planet ocean

I am not claiming, it's a fact. You keep speaking on inflation which is very much a factor price increases however the price increases are always over and above nominal inflation.

2009 Peugeot 407 Coupe. The official term is Acoustic Laminated windows. (Two pieces of glass bonded together with an acoustic absorbing layer inbetween).

Not personally. Not keen on the watches mind. Hipster rubbish. Do you have to grow a beard and wear skinny jeans before they will sell you one?

Each to their own I guess :smile:

going to be a lot of people not happy in 10 years

Price increases over the last 12 months are almost entirely due to the falling pound. Brexit has tanked the pound so the price of luxury goods has increased considerably to compensate and protect sales in other markets.

and why not cos the omega at that price is taking the MICKEY lol

The whole situation Rolex is in right now feels extremely artificial to me. They're rising very fast and very high for no real reason. I was looking at a 14060 sub and it jumped from £3.4k to nearly £4.5k within about 6 months.You can only increase the price so much without making any real change to your watch before people start buying alternatives. It took them what, like 20 years or something(?) to even make the most minimal changes to the clasp and improve it. It feels like a total bubble to me and is waiting to crash.

I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would pay £10k for a sub (that's where it's rapidly heading) when for that price you can get real high horology watches and not just a steel tool watch with a basic movement they've been milking for nearly 30 years. They're coming across like Panerai... expensive for the sake of being expensive.

What is it about a watch like this that people desire? I get the appeal of a preposterously expensive car, despite not being a car buff, but it's less clear to me what makes watches like this worth anywhere near what they are.

Its ok stating these luxury watches supposedly go up in value you got to find sucker to buy it though
Goldsmiths are finding it hard thats why there knocking the price down on this deal
What chance do you have trying to sell for top dollar

The people who talk about Rolex making them profit never mention or factor in the service costs. If you bought a Rolex 15 years ago for £2300, serviced it every 5 years like a lot of people do with an official Rolex service center because they're told they should, to a cost of nearly £700 each time that £2300 watch has end up costing you £4400...if you sold it at £3400 fifteen years later you'd be losing £1000.

If you're wearing the thing daily for fifteen years and never servicing it so you can make more profit it's going to be keeping horrifically bad time and raises the question of why even wear a mechanical watch.

Just buy whatever watch you like and don't even concern yourself with profit or investment. No watches are Investments and the ones that do turn out to be, are through sheer luck.

Only 6 figures in London, nothing to shout about.

That's nothing....I bought five of them :wink:

I bought my Rolex Presidential, Rose Gold for £7500 in 2002 and now you pay £27,500.

Shame OOS now, would have ordered 5.

I think you're missing the point. If you buy a £200 TV in the 70's how much is it worth today? The answer is nothing. If you have £200 stuffed under the mattress today and in 5-6 years time come back to spend it ....it still £200.
Luxury items like expensive watches do go up in value.

Saw the heading and for some reason thought of a Vauxhall car.....

6 figure salary and your on here ... looking for a cheap hot tub from Argos! Oh silly me, you live in a bed sit in London with no garden :smile:

Oh great... just went to order and it oos!! Thanks you lot who got it before I had a chance!! :disappointed:

Funny how people view watches really, bit like cars - some people do see it as a status symbol, its a bit of an out dated opinion though I feel, just because someone has a Rolex does not mean they are a wealthy person...I had a friend with a porsche, he did car body work for a living he was not rich! walked around in the most horrid old clothes you ever did see, his house was a tip - however on his living room wall was a photo of his beloved porsche, he loved that car like nothing else and he was a nice guy.

Nowadays its easier for people to own luxury watches and cars with finance etc, its not like years of old where if you had a rolex you bought it cash...

Yes, that's why you've posted your response in this thread.

So funny the comments on here! - you dont have to buy a Rolex to make money and not all watches lose money I bought a Casio Edifice few years back not sure of the model now it was brand new, it arrived I hated it sold on ebay for about £80 profit, I had a G Shock mudmaster bought it new for a good price, had it for around 8 months wore it every day sold it on ebay I made around £100 profit on that....exceptions maybe, but all true.

Not all cars lose money if again you buy the right car, hard to predict what will make money though.

I wouldn't buy one either and I'm on 6 figures, have a 9K car (bought with cash) and a paid off flat in West London..

It's because I'm secure and don't feel the need to impress strangers

Double glazing in a car?...wow.

I feel like this with every post I read on this entire site..hilarious.

If you were buying second hand, would you not pay more for a watch with a documented service history?

It's no different from a car or a boiler - service history does matter and does impact sales value. Just like having the original papers impacts value, despite that fact you don't wear them on your wrist.

Anyway, as explained earlier in this thread, anyone who treats a generic rolex/omega as an investment is asking for trouble. Collector pieces are a different animal, but generic steel submariners are not investments. They loosely keep in line with inflation currently, but the minute demand falls they will plummet. Just a matter of when, I would bet Rolex's bought in the 2000's will be old junk by 2020, unlikely Rolex's bought in the 80s which were produced in much lower numbers.

Wait...no

"I bought 10 to sell for profit".....

Agreed, what car do you drive?

I have a Planet Ocean and a Seiko 5. Even when it was serviced the PO didn't keep as good time as the 5. I know I got a good copy of the 5 and I love the PO, but, it is an expensive fashion statement.

Every post in this thread;

Darn it out of stock.

Agreed a lovely watch for the price of a holiday. Hot from me.

Hasn't made a loss either though has he and got the use of a Rolex over all these years. Imagine that with a car, you buy it brand new, keep it for 20 years and sell it for what you paid for it..... haha no! Most people buy a 30k car and lose about 10k driving it off the forecourt.
Then work their **** off to recover that money so they can do it again.

I drive a £2k car which loses very little in depreciation, has all the convenience you need (double glazed windows, AC, climate control, banging sound system etc etc) but have a £6k watch...the watch doesn't lose me money, cars do though.

Poor people ? I have no interest in buying this watch but can easy afford it
Have no mortgage (house fully paid off ) and earn 51k + for 35 hour week
So dont think I,m poor even by southern standards
But by your thinking I must be poor because I dont want watch lol
By the way voted deal hot because good deal if u want watch

Why would you buy a new car instead of a 10 year old second hand banger???????????????

Just catching up on this thread - some really bitter people here, I really dont like how the term 'poor people' is being bounced around here, just because someone has an opinion 'why would anyone spend 5k on a watch' does not make them poor, trust me - I know people with MONEY, do they drive a Ferrari...NO, do they have a Rolex...NO, they spend their money in other areas, re invest in people and business...

What exactly is poor nowadays really, often I think im poor, but i realise I work hard, pay bills, drive a car, eat, have running water, live in a house, have shoes etc - am i poor...no not at all....compared to my boss you could say im poor!.

My boss is a multi millionaire, he has many cars Porsche x 2, aston jag etc, he has many expensive watches, he has many houses, people judge him purely on that - what people dont judge him on is all the hard work he put in to get where he is today, he took many chances with his families house ie remortgage etc etc, he worked extremely hard to build his business over many years employ a few people etc etc.

Sadly people dont see all that hard work ,risk, worry - they just see the expensive cars, big house etc.

If someone can afford a 5k watch, fair play to you why not, life is short...very short - invest in the right watch look after it it can be passed down to children etc in years to come, the right watch will earn you money no doubt - will my Seiko SKX go up in value...well maybe...maybe not.

I have a few watches seiko, orient, g shock...all low end stuff, but its relevant to what I want to spend and can afford on a watch.

Regardless of it being a 5k watch, surely this site is to show deals to everyone regardless of what it is or what it costs...and im now awaiting the next car leasing deal to come up....

Oh dear, I'll have to continue using my Aldi £4.99 watch that I bought 4 years ago, it still tells the time you know!

Maybe I'll go to Argos for a watch and buy a brand new Fiat Panda with the change instead?

gam3 - have you met Christopher Ward? https://www.christopherward.co.uk/thec9moonphase.html

Out of Stock :disappointed:

I think it is wonderful that this post succeeded in becoming the hottest deal of the day - in spite of some daft comments from people who think HUKD is only for poor people.

Fair enough and it wouldn't reduce it in every single case (unpolished, untouched vintage subs for example). The original point I made was to someone who was providing misinformation stating Rolexs are a surefire way of earning money and a good investment that didn't take other factors into account such as inflation and servicing costs.

Cold. Just got back from Magaluf and there was a guy selling Omega's on the beach with even better discounts than this

^Cries himself to sleep every night.

Nice design, if it's got a calculator i'm sold!

I paid £1700 for my first omega (planet ocean) and it worth £3k now, depreciation is a bitch :stuck_out_tongue:

We shall agree to disagree then as I dont believe just because a watch hasn't been serviced would reduce its value

For exactly the reasons you've just stated. It's only 4 years old and the oils and movement should be good for another few years. It is only since 2015 Rolex has increased the recommended service intervals to 10 years. As the watch I was referring to was purchased before then it probably will require a service in the next few years.

Conversely you could never service a watch for 20 years like you said but if and when the time comes to sell, an unserviced watch will fetch less than a serviced one that has been in line with the manufacturer's recommendations.

Therefore returning to my original point, servicing is a cost of watch ownership whether directly (servicing costs) or indirectly (lack of affecting the value).

Expired the deal - hope someone might have picked one up :smile:

OOS

From that website

"AVAILABILITY: Unavailable"

You're not kidding!

Why do you feel a watch is 'due a service'? As others have quoted I would never send a watch for a service unless it was out of COSC accuracy or it had stopped working, a high quality auto watch should and will likely run for 15-20 years or more without needing to be touched and certainly not to be polished or refurbished at a cost of many hundreds or more.

Out of stock. If I'd had a decent watch I might have made it here in time :man:

Why would you service it within 4 years when it is not yet due a service? I am not "concerned" about these at all, merely stating they are a cost of ownership and should be including in any calculations to determine whether they are a good investment or not.

Good price and find....if you fancy it go for it. For me...id be stretching to a Rolex as much as possible if im already looking in those price ranges. Deserves some heat

I am well aware of this. Most companies increase the prices of their products over the years to counter inflation, a concept which you keep negating in your argument. I thought someone claiming to be an accountant would have at least a basic grasp of this.

Great post.

I really enjoy the informative posts you (eventually) get under threads like this, just a shame you have to sift through all the bizarrely personal mudslinging first.

Alpha will mach the collection perfectly... now waiting for beta, gamma, delta...
Now I need the 24 spaces box.


alpha

I'd love to own an omega! always liked them!

I have had Rolex and I have Omega watches but that was when I was younger and I felt special wearing them, the truth is I was trying to impress, and to be honest I found the Citizen pilot suits me fine these days and is more practical, but for those who are still experimenting then go for it. :smiley:

I do like Rolex.

Good deal but the watch looks like a cheap watch, I would prefer a Citizen watch over this one.

So adjusted for inflation your dads 200 quid watch hasnt made a penny.. Great investment pal..

Threads like this are not hilarious for the reason poor complain. They are hilarious because people with more money than sense and a fragile ego need a 5k ornament hanging off their arm.

Total magpies anything shiny

I'm not here to show off but rather help people finding a hotukdeal. This post is an area that is my vice in life, premium watches.

This watch does have a huge discount and if you like it, you can't go wrong at this price. Buy It.

However, for those that think because of the discount, a profit can be easily made whether immediate resale or increase in value over the years, you are wrong.

I don't think you would even get £4,000 for this watch as a brand new unworn straight sale to a watch trader.

Whilst a lot of the general public think that a £8k rrp watch is WTF there are many more expensive watches out there of different brands.

Looking at well known High Street brands mentioned in this thread, I would rank the brands like this:

TAG- 4-6/10
Omega- 5-7/10
Rolex- 7-10/10

As to retained value, the 'ONLY' watch that you can buy brand new at a high street shop today that has any chance of retaining value (whilst taking into account inflation) is a Rolex, and even then you have to choose carefully which model.

I'm not going to comment on vintage models as this is not the origin of this deal, it's for a brand new discounted Omega.

Ultimately, you should always buy a watch because you like it and want it. If it does retain value, then you got lucky. But with careful choices you can get a premium watch for free.... My personal experience.... I purchased at brand new Stainless Steel Black face Oyster bracelet Rolex Datejust in 2000. After discount (yes, you got discount on Rolex in those days) it cost me £1250. I sold it to a watch dealer last month for £2000. The watch was worn daily for the first few years then alternated with my other watches. Condition is good for age, but as I said before, after a Rolex Service, will look like new.

Taking into account inflation, at worse I broke even. At best I made some money, maybe enough a decent meal. But at the time, I did not buy the watch with this in mind. I just wanted a Rolex. So in reality I got to use a Rolex for free for 17years.

Do I have Omega? Yes, I do, one I bought in 2004, Omega Speedmaster Broad arrow in White face.

Has it gained money.....Not really. But I reckon it is just about breaking even because I got it very cheap (wholesale price at the time) If I had paid retail or shop discounted, I would definitely be down.

Am I pi$$ed it hasn't gained value.... Not really, because I bought it because I like it.

And that is the Conclusion:

The OP posted the watch at a very good discount. And it has done what I would expect..... to gain good heat.

The debate versus Rolex, Plastic, Casio.... Rich on HUKD... just makes the thread annoying. So annoying in fact that I have spent time to try and answer some of the questions raised on this thread.

Wouldn't it be great if HUKD can just be a place to share deals.....

An internet pic I found of my Omega.

Bring back memories. I had that watch when I was a child and I so loved it. The fact that it had mickey mouse made it for me.

That is hideous! If you put it on ebay, you wouldn't get £100 for it as everyone would assume it was an obvious fake.

Exactly my point, my post was a reply to an individual who was concerned about the lifetime costs of servicing. I have yet to service my everyday Rolex which I have had from new for 4 years.

You are obviously not aware that Rolex increase their prices every couple years by a few hundred pounds, causing the second hand market value to also increase. Please factor this into your "submission".

It needs servicing when it goes wrong..... All parts replaced during service (at Rolex and Omega) are wear and tear parts. There is no real benefit to maintaining the watch at a fixed time period like a car. That's why servicing cost back at a Rolex or Omega service centre is fixed price.

Also, you don't want to service too often as they always repolish the case and bracelet. It looks like new when you get it back but polishing takes away material. I think Rolex only recommend repolishing a Maximum of 5 times.

Why isn't that fair? I think it's perfectly fair. If you don't/won't work you get basic support but it's more than enough to survive. It isn't exactly a tin roofed shack & rations.
As for disabled, the support available is incredible. I go to houses I could never afford to find one disabled resident with a team of 24/7 carers & family living with them too, entirely paid for by the state (I asked). Yes and extreme example and most live a sensible life but In my experience most are well supported by the state and have a decent QOL in terms of expensive food, home entertainment tech etc. I can't off the top of my head think of anybody I've come across disabled and genuinely poverty line.

If you work hard and make money you can spend it however you like. Likelihood is your taxes this year were more than most people earn at all (mine were) so I'm more than contributing to society already.

Never assume those who are comfortable financially and long on disposable income, do not spend their money wisely. invariably it is the ability to manage money that got them to their position today.

Many are rich because they're careful with their money.

Why are rich people coming on hot deals? I wonder if they say they do to Barbara over canapes................

I cannot understand why this hasn't been posted yet.....£5000 off the asking price.

Bargain for a Roley !!

http://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/Pre+Owned-Rolex-36mm-Datejust-Watch/p/40510082/

That depends where you work.

Now out of stock. Gutted.

I'm in the market for a new watch. I love my Omega Speedmaster.

I assume you are looking forward to a busy day in the salon?

let me guess... you're a tory?

I doubt I'll ever earn enough to have a watch like that but hell you work hard for your money and you've earned it.

Still the Mickey Mouse screams professional far more than the Omega.

I've got no problem with someone spending 6k on a watch if it looks the part and looks expensive. Sadly this watch is neither

I didn't initially have the hart to reply to your comment, but in hind sight I decided to.

Good luck getting through your midlfe crisis, mate!

Or buy a submariner for the same price and it will keep it's value. Whereas this will probably sell for about 3k in 12 months.

It does seem a bit deer but you'll still get people fawning over it.

*can't. Can't buy intelligence.

Well you're half right, if you're on here you're getting it for £5,600 instead of £8k. Hope that's more palatable for you.

What is it about thread for watches and lease cars? Attracts all the people that seem to actually believe that their opinion, or what suits themselves, is the only correct one. And if anyone else thinks differently, then its time for the year six playground insults to start flying!

I agree to making it hot but be aware that under TCB and Quidco sale items will only attract cashbacks of 2.1% and 2% respectively. Saying that any cashback is good cashback.

I personally prefer the one with the metal strap seamaster 57

That is a really silly (and somewhat rude) comment. I've just dropped my son at school in my £50,000 Porsche Boxster but I still look out for bargains. I suspect there are many subscribers to HUKD in exactly the same situation, some of whom will be in the market for an Omega.

Thanks for listing this deal it gives me a reason to empty out my spare change jar there may be enough in there.

Nice watch, a bit on the large side for my wrist though. The normal speedy and seamaster I've got are both 42mm and thus fit a bit better than this 44.25mm beasty. Good price, but as others have mentioned I think I'd probably go for a Rolex for that sort of budget. Most watches lose value in an initial period, then those which are deemed classics or rare can start to appreciate.

Don't suppose you earn enough to pick this deal up for me

I'd still buy a Rolex if I could for the same money

Do you just go from deal to deal judging and complaining?

funny how frequently items that likely nobody here will ever buy get over 1000 degrees of heat

Well they made over 5000 of the Omega Skyfall watch and retailed at around £4000 now selling for around £6000 second hand, there is normally a time frame for buying a selling watches after the initial release of the watch and it depends on availability on the market to the price you are going to get. James Bond Omega owners tend to hold on to the watches and not a lot come up available on the 2nd hand market.

Nice watch! Looking for a quality Mickey Mouse watch, not seen this model of Ingersol

Firstly I Like the watch and discount and price is good so have voted hot.

Secondly predicting price rises on historic data is the way to the poor house. If investing in anything was that easy we would all be retired and wouldn't need to work. Be very very careful presenting historic price rises/changes as gospel some people may take it as such.

Great price, but why put on such a horrible strap??

It'd be like a La Ferrari coming with citroen cactus airbumps.

For those complaining about the price, this isn't the sort of watch you'd buy if you're up the the balls in credit card debt, or live in a 2 bed semi on a council estate. I think (hope) that those parting with £5k are comfortable financially and the money has come from savings built up over 6 months.

Not my thing but looking at post for amusement and dont feel need to
spend 10% of my salary on a watch
Why do some think that if you dont like or have watch like this you are either to poor or jealous
Also cant see how its investment If they have to discount it to try and sell it
I have no problem with people buying them its their money
But dont delude themselves thinking its investment or makes you look more successful
Would think anyone could afford this watch £5,600 is not loads of money but lot for a watch imo

These watches look no different than a £100 watch?

Sales purchases are only 2.1% at TCB!

If you're on here you can't afford this. Just look on your phone.

I'm pleased this watch has been voted hot and has attracted some sensible comment from people who both appreciate nice things and understand they have cost and a value. There have been a few unhelpful comments from the naysayers (as there always are), but rather less than normal I think.
:-)

"achnoledge"? Really?

Taste is subjective.

This watch looks bloody awful, surely there's better-looking watches for that amount of doe?

I use my phone.

So your watch has magically appreciated from £3400 to £4000 since I replied to your comment? Also it won't be worth as much as you think as you've admitted to never having it serviced.

What is ridiculous/stupid is believing if you write something in bold and CAPITALS it makes it true.

You say all Rolexs go up in value and are a good investment. Please use your horological knowledge and investment acumen to convince myself and other HUKD users that this is the case compared to say investing the same amount in stocks or shares over the same amount of time. However this time factor in inflation and servicing costs instead of your purchase of a Dremel.

Oh, and don't forget the bold font and CAPITALS or I won't believe you.

Available in Southall for a limited period :laughing:

Remember the code of conduct, stick to the deal and be civil to each other.

It's not a Rolex.

Was just gona buy it ... but then thought WATCH OUT ... I'd rather get a smart watch and another watch and book a weekend away with enough spending money and give some money to charity and have a nice takeaway aswell
I think il Still have some change left over to spend on other deals as well

I based my submission on the bank of England inflation calculator and Rolex recommended service intervals.

I never stated you actually use the watch as this is a given. However if you've come up with a formula to quantify this intangible benefit please feel free to share.

Finally, in case you haven't noticed you're the one who isn't supporting arguments with factual information. "I know ..." is hearsay.

Mate, enjoy your watches but please stop pretending to understand investments.

The mere fact that everyone in your family owns up to 3 of these watches is all the proof any sane person needs to know it's an artificial market. Remember when everyone use to own multiple houses back in '06?

You're investing in a brands marketing strategy. Rolex raise the RRP on new models, and as a result old models go up in value. The moment Rolex are no longer able to sustain the price increases, the market crashes.

Not to mention smart watches are becoming a very real threat. Another few years from now I wonder how many people will look at a Rolex as an antique rather than a luxury good. How many of your friends don't use an iPhone / Samsung phone every day?

Reality check, buy watches to enjoy them and if you make some money it's a nice bonus. Don't buy them for investments.

Does someone need to be poor to appreciate a good deal?

Perhaps keeping an eye out for good deals is why people get to be well off in the first place, eh?

It's a misconception to assume that past performance will equate to future gains. Particular popular models of Rolex go up in value (e.g. steel submariner) not due to rarity or materials, but due to artificial price increases in the RRP of new watches. As all Rolex submariners look pretty similar, if the new one gets a price increase by the manufacturer, the old ones become more attractive at a higher price. The moment Rolex prices go down, the price of old watches will also crash.

I'm not saying Rolex prices will go down (I don't have a crystal ball!), but they could. Just recognise that you're not investing in fine art (collectable) or gold (rare), you're investing in a brand and their marketing strategy. As long as you're comfortable with that, it's all gravy.

My 2 cents, buy an expensive watch if you can afford it and will enjoy it. Don't buy it as an investment. If it happens to go up in value, bonus! If not, who cares? :smile:

For £5k? lol, yeah good luck with that.

99% of people neither notice or give two hoots about expensive watches.

Your're mistaken. Some Omega watches go up in value too. I bought a midsize Omega Seamaster chronograph 300m automatic in 2000 for £675 (in the UK they were selling for £990). I sold it on eBay for £770-ish in 2008. In today second hand market it worth around about £2k+

All us go-getters set our watches one day fast, keeps us on our toes. Durrr.
You a h8r or something?

You earn enough, hah? If you earn enough then what you doing on hotukdeals? Go and buy your stuff from big branded shops at big rip off prices!!!

As an owner of both an Omega Seamaster and Rolex Submariner and generally into watches with a substantial collection , I can confirm that Omega watches (owned by Swatch group) will generally not hold or gain in value . Limited editions may hold value or gain slightly if in very limited numbers 500 or less buy the best investment for a cool sports watch that will gain in value is to buy a Rolex Submariner with date. I bought mine for £3300 about 8 years ago and is now worth £4500 . A new Rolex Submariner will cost £6450 as Rolex increase prices by approx 10% year on year.
Buy a watch you like or buy a Rolex as an investment you can wear everyday ...

jesus this thread is ridiculous, not saying whether i can afford one, ten or 0 but hot as the deal is hot!... dont see why all these other comments are needed....

OP Whats your gut feeling on the future value of this watch say 10-15 years from now? Appreciation likely or do you think it will just hold steady?
Bit of a "how long is a piece of string" question I know but just interested to know your snap judgement based on your experience?

Not my style but very good deal. Black matt should look well in black with orange nato.

At one time I had 11 Omega vintage watches and the last couple of years they have gone up. But the man who said this won't hold it,s value is right , think of this watch as a car as soon as it,s on your wrist 2-3 grand lost , gone. Omega haven,t made in house movements for years so Im guessing it's a ETA movement which you could get in a cheaper brand anyway ie Oris etc.You need a very good watch as a investment a very good Rolex and above. You can make more profit on vintage Seiko divers or vintage chrono's watches then on a cheap Rolex watch , good way of making a few pound if you haven,t got a lot of money. As someone else said do not ever ever touch Tag

My watch has never been serviced and works like new. I've only paid £20 for a mini drill and cotton buffering wheels and green polishing compound to polish out the scratches on the bracelet.

So I've paid £2320 in total but well done in backing up what i said before about people on here making ridiculous/stupid comments.
It's a known thing amongst people who own luxury watches that they go up in value. (If you didn't know this then learn). All my family have 1-3 Rolex watches each because they know they're good investment (keep them or give away to your children either way the price is ALWAYS going up).
Currently second hand version of my watch is worth £4k. Which enforces what I know to be FACT.

I lost my miband last week whilst carrying out a rewire :disappointed:

14 squid down the swanny gutted

It used to tell me the time, I didnt have to look at my phone

I miss the little fella feel kinda naked

Would someone like to buy me one of these watches?

This deal is not for those people but there are lots of people with money and they want to spend it. This is a luxuary item and there's nothing wrong with that.

It's also possible that you can't afford one but don't want to do anything about it as you feel good about yourself as it is without having this watch.
The watch looks good by the way.
Heat.

Stop being bossy :stuck_out_tongue:

Great stocking filler :sunglasses:

Stop being nosey :laughing:

Criticism is about perception the ostentatious nature of these items. If you can't see that then you are the very person that is being criticized and saying 'go and get rich and get one yourself' misses the point entirely. Cant' buy intelligence, I suppose.

Came in here to read the comments. Night :smiley:

Potentially 13% cashback through Quidco? Or is this a sale item

I like expensive watches, but your watch should mean something. Don't get a watch because it's a watch. The most valuable thing you have right now is your time, when you look at your wrist it should be a representation of how you spent that time and how you were living in that moment.

I try and buy watches at significant moments within my life as a reminder of that memory.

But hey.. that's just me.

A poor man's opinion.

No problem with the watch but suggest that if you spend a bit more than £100 on a phone you'll get a better picture.

Any particular reason why we've decided to act like jackasses towards this guy?

Well said! Most sense I have read all weekend.

What's the model name?

I voted cold because its ugly, money doesn't guarrantee beauty unless it has a bag over its head!

Has anyone tried the student beans 10% off...?

He asked for a link for a standard Omega Speed master Moon watch. This was not a link to a better deal for the original post.

And the cheap poorly fitted curtains :man:

don't care about the 'we can afford it' etc. brigade. it's a watch, it tells time. no matter how much money you've got, if you're willing to spend 8 grand on something that tells time - you are a tit.

I'd be tempted, if it wasn't for the cheap looking strap

Well if you based all your comments on factual information, I would of paid closer attention. You seem to be making a desperate attempt trying to argue that a Rolex does not appreciate of any significant monetary value. I know of individuals who make handsome profits trading luxury watches. You also failed to achnoledge that during ownership, you actually use the watch; making it a cost effective hobby.

Never mind the size of your wrist, you're wearing it on the wrong one!!

As is his laminate flooring!!

My mates Zenith breaks every other year
But he can't sell it cos his dad gave it to him!

Omega for 5K ? LOL. I'd rather buy Patek Philippe

That a hand or a hoof?

Good watches, like Omega. I have 4 now two speed masters, one from the 70's and one from the 90's. Good watches but I like the size of the newer ones, 44mm looks ok on my wrist and I can get away with larger.

That's a terrible photo :neutral_face:

So your saying a nurse or a teacher, can't earn or save? Some of the top teaching positions earn over £100,000.

Exactly my point.

Rolex do hold their value if you purchase a sea dweller mod. tbf I would say buy Patek Phillepe but then again those watches start at £20k, I've just seen a vintage Patek go for £250k.

I'd buy it if it was £10.88

Count the pennies, the pounds will look after themselves.

x3 on Tesco clubcard
https://secure.tesco.com/clubcard/boost/goldsmiths/UK-003389.prd
Anyone know where I can get 1,866,666 of Tesco clubcard points on the cheap?

Like a good nurse or teacher?

amen

Why are you wearing a watch on your foot?

The watch from swiss watch direct is a different watch. The original post is a ceramic watch not a stainless steel.

I stated this earlier.

If you were my accountant, I'd change to a more attentive one.

Tory supporters, rejoice! Normal people, move on

If you buy one at the right price/time, yes they do appreciate over and above the consideration of the time value of money/inflation. Take that from an accountant :smile:

The people on here who make the most ridiculous/stupid comments tend to be poor and uneducated. Most people who can or can't afford this watch or other watches that are posted up on here have the good sense not to be concerned about the price or what people are willing to pay for a watch. So yes I'm for real in what i said.

£5.6k for a Casio knock-off .... and a fugly one to boot!

Ain't nobody got time fo' that.

You should check how often a Rolex or an Omega requires a service.

As you said it's about buying at a fair price (less to zero chance of this buying new from an AD unless you get your hands on a new Daytona for example which are selling for more than list price).

Also other variables come into play like condition, rarity/demand for a particular model etc. etc. Inflation is a most definitely a factor and so is the cost of ownership (service costs).

The original quote I pertained to was a classic example of how most people don't account for these 2 very real factors when talking about Rolexs appreciating in value. Once they are taken into consideration the increase in value is nowhere near what they originally believed, or in fact a loss has been made in real terms.

This is the point I was making.

... What's the chances of me buying and selling on eBay for a profit? Esp with topcashback.. :o flirt

It is interesting to note that nobody appears to consider service and maintenance costs when viewing a watch as an appreciating asset. Unless folk don't have their watches serviced? Surely nobody goes out and buys a Patek Philippe watch without accepting the eye watering servicing charges?

In the real world those who are intelligent and driven enough to become huge assets to their organisations are rewarded for it and able to buy beautiful watches like this, whilst those who are unable to work and are not contributing to any organisation to receive financial rewards are forced to live on what the government determine they need to survive. It's the real world, life is not fair, deal with it.

"Jealousy is such an ugly emotion" [Cassandra Clare]

This seems like a very good deal and the Speedmaster is one of the better Omega offerings. I however would not recommend this watch for a number of reasons. For this sort of money, you can purchase a Rolex Submariner which will hold it's value and in fact appreciate in years to come and is also a more attractive IMO. Secondly, never purchase a watch with a black case as it wears horribly; the main reason why very few luxury watchmakers produce these. On a final note, Patel Philippe watches should not be compared against regular divers watches or even bought into the conversation for reasons including being in a completely different price bracket.

You're*

That's the one I'm currently watching on Amazon. Waiting for a price drop

Hence my smiley emoticon, my point was rolexs can and do appreciate in value, equally in my experience you will not lose money on a rolex, adding inflation into the equation does not seem to impact that perception either. Its not a blanket statement im making either but in general I would bet in 99% of cases if you pay a fair price for a rolex when you come to sell it you wont lose money and there is a high likelihood you will make a few pounds too.

Which version of Android does it run?

Why have you photographed it wrapped around a gammon joint? Weird.

Goes to show how much profit is in them if they can knock £2,600 off and still make a living.

He wasn't talking about a vintage red sub though was he? I also did not state Rolex watches do not appreciate. He stated he bought it in 2000, is worth £3400 today and that Rolexs go up in value "FACT".

The vintage Rolex subs have appreciated yes, along with the Paul Newman Daytona being another notable example and more recently the batman (BLNR). I don't see how your contribution supports his blanket statement? confused

I heard Micky Mouse wears a brexit team watch....

Here's mine boys. First 10 guys to like my post get my phone number. Form an orderly queue.

Exactly, if it was 1/2000 with a discount like this, it would be a steal.

This is just a new design that they will make millions of for perhaps a year or two. Not limited supply at all.

You for real with the above post!

You mean the 'limited' bonds with 10007 made, not exactly that limited though!

Yep and a Rolex red sub would have cost £220 in 1970 and is now around £12-15000 so allowing for inflation a profit of between £9-12000, pretty good investment I would argue :smile:

Heated.

I came here for the comments.

:smile:

Your watch tells you what day it is! Hahahaha it must think your a fool.. let's face it, if you don't know what day it is the time is the least of your worries :smile:

Feel a bit sorry for those of you on here who can't afford to purchase a quality timepiece. Here's mine, and to be honest, I can only see this as an astute investment, as the price will only continue to rocket.

Don't hate me, riff raff.

Have you considered dropping a couple of hundred on a decent camera? :wink:

Without being disrespectful Im afraid you are talking total tosh :stuck_out_tongue:, most rolexes will appreciate in value and rarely will you ever lose money on one (specifically mens watches as ladies do not tend to appreciate much)

I have never lost money on a rolex over the past 15 years of buying/selling purely for personal interest as I like watches and buy because I like a watch not because it will make me value but any one of the latest steel will probably make money short term e.g. Deepsea, BLNR, GMT etc. and recent releases like the LV, Hulk etc. Will have made you 150-200% if you bought when they first came out.

Taking into account inflation, £2300 in 2002 would be approx £3433.62 up until last year (bank of England inflation calculator only goes as far as 2016).

Presuming you've had it serviced at least twice in those 15 years at approx £500 per service in real terms it has not gained any value but has cost you around £1000 to maintain.

Not as good of an investment as you initially thought eh? (fierce)

Who cares what time it is? Knowing the time is for losers! :/

I hear the UK brexit team all wear one..

That is a sweeping statement that I can say is widely inaccurate.

That's not ironic.

...and you spend your valuable time browsing bargain sites on the internet ?

this watch isn't a Ltd edition watch and not a true moon watch. it's normally the true omega speedmaster moonwatch different varieties or James bond omegas that tend to go up in value.

2015 de ville prestige gents, was in immaculate condition as well.

This was it http://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/Omega-De-Ville-Prestige-Gents-Watch/p/17330999/#fo_c=655&fo_k=9dad3b60830c49fbfb6b8c2a802d40fd&fo_s=slisys

edit: price has actually gone up now another £300 to £4520 from when I bought it maybe brexit and weak sterling?

I'm not saying this is a bad deal, but the above watch cost me £168 as an Amazon warehouse deal. I could have got one even cheaper on Prime Day.

I know the Omega is a far more premium brand etc etc. But at the end of the day it's just a watch. Not even a particularly nice one in my opinion. Fabric strap???
I'd rather have mine and a healthier bank balance. It feels like a premium product and has some nice features.

It's all about priorities in life, and I would never judge someone for buying one of these, I'd just struggle to justify it regardless of my salary. Just the same as I don't judge someone for buying a £40k car. I'd rather do what we did and spend £20k extending the house. That investment is already giving a decent return due to reducing our mortgage LTV and enabling us to remortgage at a better rate.

Still, a good price for someone in the market for one!

It feels like these are the sort of 'investments' people make when they've got the other things in life taken care of and are thinking "what next?"

Wish Rolex deals would get posted. It's always Omega that get sold off cheap on here :disappointed:

That is ironic disabled people in a flat. Hope it is ground floor

And here you are.

If you've got 5 grand to spend on a watch a no date Rolex Sub is a better buy imo. I bought a Seamaster last May, torn between it and a Sub but I instantly regretted it. While the Omega is a lovely watch, feels nicer on the wrist than the Sub it's not a Rolex. I ended up buying a Submariner last November, an iconic watch that's instantly recognisable and will probably never lose its value. I still have and wear the Omega more actually - the Sub only comes out for special occasions and still has the protective plastic on in some places.

I think you'll find its both. There's a lot of Average Joe's whose family members or relatives are disabled.

Ugly watch

As we're having a watch waving competition, here's my every day watch. I like to wear it when I'm driving my lease hire matt black G-Wagon... don't hate me cos you ain't me.

I thought it was a good film too, but I think the first transformers was better :wink:

Of course the value of a Rolex has gone up historically - doesn't mean it will increase in value today. The Rolex brand is on a high at the moment, buying into one as an 'investment' is like buying bitcoin at £2000, and as the Paul Newman Rolex showed, nobody can really predict which ones are going to be remaining collectible.

You speak of the Rolex brand as if it's not mass-produced; Newsflash, it is. Anyone can afford one, all types of trash have them now and they are triggering the bubble to burst. True value will remain in brands like Patek Phillipe.

Thats bad :disappointed:

£3520 is the RRP and price pretty much everywhere. Fair play for the Swiss watches direct link :smile:

Love you long time!

Thats good :smile:

Gorgeous..

How do you wear 75 inch? Would be sticking out a bit... :P

Nice watch - good price.

I can afford it but I would rather spend the money on a 75 inch top of the range sony bravia

https://www.beaverbrooks.co.uk/0010263/Omega-Speedmaster-Moonwatch-Professional-Chronograph-Mens-Watch/p

Cheaper at the following link.

http://www.swisswatchesdirect.co.uk/watch/311.30.42.30.01.005._omega_special_edition_watches_speedmaster_moonwatch_professional

Stealthy, love it. Though I'd personally want the dials blacked out too to suit my tastes :laughing:

So why doesn't the time match the time the photo was take and posted here unless you just had it saved in your camera roll from before?

Which model, and year was this?

An expensive watch thread always draws out the knobheads.

Now that is a beautiful watch.

Lucky you weren't handcuffed

I bought a omega for £4229 in goldsmiths, a year later I struggled to get £1.5k for it :/

I have actually worn the limited edition grey side of the moon (meteor face), was surprised how light it actually was, have always associated quality watches with weight.

Thought I'd get caught red-handed

Yeh its quite nice but I think this shows a bit more class in a business meeting :smile:

Result you deserve a big hand

Your're obviously delusional and don't know what you're talking about. My Rolex I bought in 2002 for £2300 is now worth £3400+, my dad's Rolex he bought in the late 70's for £200 is now worth about £2k. It's a FACT (to people in the know) that Rolex watches go up in valve.

I chopped it off a guy in the street, an extra arm always comes in handy :laughing:

I've still got my omega seamaster which I bought for £850 15 years ago and still looks new.

I love my Omega, I earn enough to have one, I pay enough taxes not to feel guilty. People on this site need to get over themselves if you can't afford one do something about it and stop moaning. If you can afford one, but don't want one it's a free country :smiley:

Don't forget his 40 cigarettes each day

You can't argue with maths.

Some do, most don't.

No guarantee of a rolex keeping it's value or appreciating only certain model years will achieve that. And a rolex certainly isn't a 'holy grail' watch. Something like a patek philippe might be a better bet if you want an investment but I buy watches because I like them not what the future value might be.

You are honestly delusional if you think a Rolex goes up in value. The only ones that do are very limited runs such as the Paul Newman. If you wanted an actual investment timepiece, you would buy a Patek Phillipe.

I was close to buying the aqua terra master deal the other week but realised these watches depreciate in value ridiculously.

Anyway if you want to a holy grail watch then get a Rolex and pass it down the generations..

These watches will be worth the same as your Casio in the next 20 years. Disappointing.

Cold.. why would you spend this kind of money on a watch when you could buy one of those ones in a vending machine for 50p!!?!?





.... kidding guys.. I know the way these threads always go :smiley:

£500 car? More like a £30k on £250 a month payments.

LOL this is clearly a replica.

The average Joe also got eye infection by wearing poundshop sunglasses and after good wait the GP just put the cotton patch on his eyes
But his struggle didn't stop there he stood up and started walking.....
That's when I stopped my fun life broke up with my gf and asked,

If it hadn't been for Cotton-Eye Joe
I'd been married a long time ago
Where did you come from, where did you go?
Where did you come from, Cotton-Eye Joe?

It's a big watch, not for the skinny wristed like myself. Still love it though, the rare time I put it on.
My daily is a Casio f91-w. And before anyone starts, how many of you drive around in a 30k car on a 30k salary, now that's ridiculous. Photo is taken by my 3.5 year old £100 moto G 1st gen. Thing about watches is it is the only real jewellery a man can get away with, they're beautifully engineered precious things that last a lifetime is properly looked after.

Meanwhile back in the real world, British disabled are confined to their flats, with beans on toast if they're lucky.

Pish

The AVERAGE salary is approx £27k in the UK.

At 44mm this is a bit of a beast.

I think that people can spend their money on whatever they want and the people on here who make ridiculous/stupid comments about the cost of this watch shouldn't concern themselves on what other people spend their money on.

Proof that money can't buy you taste.

Very tasty discount that. I actually like the strap, suits the watch.

My head isn't screwed on £5070 it would work out

Hopefully you're not one of the high and mighty as your mathematics is not up to scratch.

Voted hot - I really like the Darkside of the Moon but I think a steel sports Rolex will probably hold it's value better

These are my favourite deals on here because you get all the poor people on here making ridiculous comments about how expensive this watch is and you can buy much cheaper watch brand or people got more money than sense etc etc etc. :laughing:

Its only £5 on ebay flirt

I'll take 10

9.45% topcashback too, seriously considering buying this.

Hot for the discount drop, but wow this price and only a fabric strap...rich ppl toys lol

Well done that man! Cheapest I've ever seen it.
Now if you can find me a standard 42mm moon watch at a heavy discount I will love you forever. True story.

Really good price. This one will hold good value as well.