Can't believe how long I just watched that for

What would you be using 3g for on this phone? Yes, it then excludes some networks (Three) but it's designed for low use and high battery life. 3g would severely affected battery with very little gain.

Dual sim version for £25

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/253025947511?_mwBanner=1

I can remember way back when, the day I got the wee snake to the full size of the screen. Took me about a year of trying. Miss them days. 3310 FTW

The new snake game is nowhere near as good as the old one, but I love this phone as a replacement for my old work one. It's tiny and the old predictive text took me way back, instantly got reacquainted with it.

The camera is crap but nobody is buying this for its camera.

Locked to Vodafone - should be mentioned in the title

The silly numptys making this couldn't add 3G. :disappointed:

Pretty overpriced for what it is, but if you wanna honest review, here you go: https://youtu.be/k799nxlIC5Q

I wouldn't bother with this. I use a V3 which is the best phone EVER!

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/motorola-razr-v3-the-greatest-phone-of-all-time-1294669

Around £25 for one in good condition and they last forever.

Dual sim version for £25

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/253025947511?_mwBanner=1

Be careful there cheap fakes.

Because 2G networks are slowly being allowed to slide into oblivion, cause network congestion and are being phased out. Your comment about 3G adversely affecting battery life was probably true back in 2006, it's more efficient than 2G these days, if only because you'll get better signal.

Is it bad i watched it to the end and then read your comment :confused:

You aren't alone,I also watched it until the end... my heart was racing like an epic episod of Antiques Roadshow!

Fakes

Bought one of these, it was fake - plenty of clips on youtube to comparing them - the seller wouldnt admit it was a fake - eventually got them to accept a return

Don't like the design of it, pity they couldn't have made it exactly the same case wise as the original.

This is pretty expensive for what it is

Pray tell, where can I get one? Need a backup phone. My very old Nokia is acting up. Thanks.

This is incorrect information. In the UK it's a far more likely scenario that 3G will be turned off well before 2G. The original estimates for 2G & 3G turn off was initially around 2020, however this is no not at all likely for 2G. The reason for this is primarily due to the volume of embedded devices that have been sold and are still in action. These devices are everywhere from nurse call systems, to alarms, to industrial machinery and even 'smart' meters. Although newer embedded devices such as cars have the option to update the majority of these systems sold in the early 2000's do not. Estimates in the industry for certain networks put the data around 2025. It is likely that 'EE' will be able to switch off 2G much earlier, however this is not the case for O2 and Vodafone.

Additional, 2G radios are still more power efficient than 3G (for standby time, making calls and sending SMS).

This is hot VS the RRP, especially if it turns out to be unlocked.

Not entirely sure why people are so keen to buy these though as they look pretty rubbish to me, but a £10 saving isn't to be sniffed at.

I bought one from here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unlocked-Pink-Motorola-V3-RAZR-Mobile-Phone-V-Good-Cond-Optional-Charger-Bundle/272760983709?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

I'm convinced that Lenovo are going to re-release the V3. It was as iconic as the 3310 in the mid 2000s.

Wild goose chase time (y) Good luck finding one.

Locked to Vodafone and if you're with them then it's fine otherwise no point in getting it as they can't be unlocked.

Its a shame this isn't on 3G because i was interested in getting one and before anyone starts moaning.

I have a Three pay as you go sim because they are the cheapest for sending texts (2p each) they also seem much better with the call costs then other networks, we don't all sit here paying £100s a year locked up in contracts some of us just want a phone, so its rather stupid that this rather nice looking and cheap phone is not available on the cheapest pay as you go network

I get that in principle I honestly do - like a bit of nostalgia myself - but my overriding opinion of this is that it neither looks like a 3310 nor acts like a 3310. They shouldn't have put a camera in it as this is an unnecessary upgrade for a phone that's supposed to look like its original and ruins the back of it, yet they only put 2G bands in it, which restricts its ability to get coverage in areas that have 3G and no 2G - this would have been an actual useful upgrade on the model.

Basically I don't think for the money it is either a very good tribute to the original model nor does it make up for it by offering features above and beyond £20 dumbphones which also don't look like the 3310.

For those that want it though, fair play. Not pouring scorn on them I'm just a little disappointed with this attempt from HMD as I think they could have done a better job and made some better decisions.

I've successfully unlocked payg phones from vodafone a month after a purchase. Just make sure you also use the free SIM card they usually provide. You have to wait 30 days before making a request.

They allow 3 unlock requests a year.

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/vodafone-uk/forms/unlock-code-request/

The name's the biggest issue I have with it.

I wish they called it the 3310e or something because now it makes research/discussions more annoying, plus it fits old school Nokia naming schemes. To me they're just abusing the name to sell a phone few would otherwise care about.

Same goes for anything, if you have to put a date at the end to distinguish it then it's a bad name.

I think we have to put this device in context:

What the NES Classic Edition teaches us is that at the moment there is a buzz for nostalgia. HMD have bought the Nokia brand and some of their patents and workforce and want to remind people of the brand. The 3310 was their first major attempt to do this, and to revive the brand for those who were teenagers and beyond when the 3310 came out, and for those who went on to become Nokia fanboys and enjoy devices like the N95. For those people the 3310 could have looked like a potato with '3310' on the box and a Nokia logo on it and they would pay £50 for it. I know a fair few people who are buying or who have bought this phone, even though they will never use it - though they convince themselves they will.

I used to be a fan of Nokia but I moved on long before they sank, so I perhaps can take this device on board with a little more cynicism than some...or maybe I'm just a grumpy old old.

Either way this is a device littered with anomalies and which doesn't look as much like the 3310 as it should be. I wonder if the design team actually ever owned one. The ideal 3310e (as you described it) would be as follows:

The same size and pretty much the same design as the old 3310, with a resultant massive battery due to the shrunken innards.

A transflective screen of the same size as the original, albeit colourful and much higher res

No camera - this is a dumbphone after all

All major world bands to increase the flexibility of the phone and make it at the very least an unbeatable 'glove box phone.

Lots of bright colours - much like this model.

It didn't really need much else. The thing that stops me spending £50 on this is not that I'm tight or that I don't think the tech is adequate; it's that no amount of convincing can make me think of this as a 3310 - it just feels like a cynical money grab, and for the first time ever I feel that a cheap knock-off from eBay actually might be at least as good as the original device.

V3 me

Rehash.

Thinking about upgrading my 6310i, might go for this one

Can anyone please recommend a good smartphone sim free for around the £50-60 marks? Looked at Amazon and its coming up with this one below which has been picking up bad reviews lately

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mobile-Unlocked-DOOGEE-X10-Smartphones/dp/B071KXBKJL/ref=sr_1_2?s=telephone&ie=UTF8&qid=1500978742&sr=1-2&keywords=smartphone

Or should I buy a second hand Apple 5C/5S? I know the latter will stretch the budget to around £80 for a used one.

Can anyone please advise?

Err isn't this a non smart phone thread!

Any good for trapping

Thanks for this

I don't understand why they didn't just enhance the features it has. Better camera, better screen, better connectivity and i would have bought this. No point getting a 2g 2mp phone in 2017 especially for this price.

"Handset must be purchased with £10 airtime. This will automatically be added to your transaction. Handset not available without airtime."

So it's not £38.99 it's £48.99

There are plenty of cheap(er) 3g phones around. If you must have the nostalgia feel look out for the discontinued Nokia 301, still some new ones knocking around on aution sites. Battery lasts ages and has an excellent solid feel. :smile:

I didn't give any fixed timeframes but the reality is, it's still a grey area - they're certainly not investing more in 2G or 3G infrastructure. Yes, old devices need 2G but 3G coverage is still good and does exist in places that 2G doesn't, given the falling cost of these SoCs, why they didn't put 3G in it is kind of inexcusable - you can't even pretend it's part of the 'classic charm'.

And as I said, 3G is more efficient because finding a 3G signal is more likely - no signal is incredibly inefficient for 2G or 3G.

I love the way people keep banging on about 2g at&t turned it off and sigapore and australia! Personally and according to EE's head 3g in europe is more at risk! 2g is fine for voice and texting and 4g for the internet! What exactly is 3g for? The pings are too high for the internet and voice quality difference is negligible! Also it does not penetrate as far as 3g. We will see in due course

No-one's 'banging on about it'. The cost of adding 3G and therefore extra coverage, is/was negligible these days, so they should've put it in this phone and made it a lot more useful to many at the same time, they could probably have charged slightly more too and people wouldn't have cared.

I wasn't talking about you but people keep saying 2g is obsolete just cause one countries mobile network has dropped it. I personally only use 2g as battery life is longer. Standby time is the same but talk time is reduced. I personally agree wi what your saying as 3g hasn't been dropped yet!

But I can see 3g going before 2g as 3g would free up more space than 2g for 5g. But i might be wrong. We'll see in due course

Bit like incandescents bulbs, CFL's and LED's. Its clear that incandescents will live on via halogen lamps (as more energy efficient) and CFL once deemed as the replacements for incandescents will be dropped by the appearance of LED's

I do think 2g is more resilient than what people seem to think especially in europe and asia

I have avoided this when buying other handsets by checking out using Fast Track. Both times I was given the handset without being asked to buy airtime.

The problem I have with it, is that instead of keeping the software on it basic, they have over-complicated it for a phone that's supposed to be simple to use... My 75yo aunt still uses the original 3310, because she's seemingly incapable of learning to use any other phone... when I heard of this new 3310 being released, I was going to buy her one, but it's so different to the original she'd never learn to use it, and probably keep using her old one.

Cold. £40 quid for that phone is ludicrous, not a deal at all since its just a rehoused nokia 105 with a £20 markup + £10 airtime. If you want something that looks like a 3310 for a reasonable price get this http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_662897.html £15 no airtime required

Is this locked to voda as well? The last emergency phone i bought from there was locked to EE

Watched all of that, strangely addictive lol

If you are on O2 or Vodafone, then 2G has better coverage (internally and externally) than 3G. I am not sure where you are getting any other conflicting information from. Not sure about EE as I do not have first hand information about their network.

In example you will actually find that areas where 4G has been rolled out that 3G signal has degraded. This IS intentional on the part of the network operators. Whatever they may claim, power levels have been reduced to prevent interference issues.

O2 & Vodafone's 2G signal utilise lower frequency spectrum, these frequencies have the best range, however have little bandwidth. This does not really matter for 2G. 3G on the other hand runs across multiple bands, and many of these bands do not have good range characteristics.

Or even numpties you numpty (annoyed)

Not exactly identical to the old one in terms of looks and certainly not the same OS/software. The only thing that makes it different to modern smartphones is the keys and the crApp store. All the tracking and analytics 'features' from modern smartphones are present here.

As with most retro products these days, I'd say this won't satisfy those who owned the original, only those who vaguely remember it and want to pretend they are oldskool and owned/remember it.

Sorry. I forgot to add supporting stats.
Landmass Not Covered (all networks) - 2G = 10% / 3G = 16%
Indoor Coverage (all networks) - 2G = 89% / 3G & 4G = 80%
No Coverage of A&B Roads (from any network) - 2G = 6% / 3G & 4G = 11%

Over the next few years we will see 4G have better coverage than either 2G or 3G.

To be honest, I think it's all missing the original point and that was, that this phone should always have had 3G in it from the get-go. You may be right about 2G, but anecdotally I seem to spend more time with 3G signal (when I don't have 4G) than 2G/no data and that's on O2, Vodafone and EE as I have phones on all of those networks (well, I dropped Vodafone last month as I was sick of their customer service). Yes, I know that O2 and Vodafone run on GSM900 which does penetrate and travel further. You still can't deny that if this phone had 3G, it would be better for everyone, and cost fractionally more only. I also don't trust their coverage maps - I've had them argue blind with me I should have strong signal in areas where I have none and they just pull up their map and you have no comeback.

I don't see why they couldn't include 3G voice, they could even have included 4G VoLTE for full voice coverage.

If the device has a proper browser than yes, it makes sense to have 3G. No idea if this phone does, or does not. If it doesn't have a browser then it's pointless having 3G (unless of course you want to use 3-Three).

Although, my points above relate to the network as this is the line of business I worked in for many years, so get frustrated if peoples opinions are being relayed as fact.

The coverage checkers are computer generated. If you don't have signal then O2 are able to raise a network incident regardless of what the online checker states. A separate team will investigate these issues as no network signal is higher priority than just lower signal strength.

Most phone radios are programmed to latch on to the 'superior' network, even if this is at the expense of battery life (the broadcast signal is increased to compensate). Thus you would very rarely drop out of 3G down to 2G even if 3G is only 1 bar and 2G has 4/5 bars.

Nice to see this bad boy making a comeback :P Tempted to get one as i can't use the latest smartphones as give me migraines! I assume i should be ok with this as its so basic and still does everything i need, cheers op :smiley:

Sadly this has tracking features. If only it were like the original we could go off the grid.

"still does everything" well not really.

Please explain how you can be "off the grid" with any phone - the network operator is always going to know what cell you are in, and, in areas with multiple towers, can triangulate your location. The only way to avoid this is to have the phone switched off, with the battery disconnected for the truly paranoid - in which case it's not much use as a phone!

russian text after....hmmm is this to do with russian hackers?

For £10 is ok, but why would anyone want this phone for £38.89 ??

and far better :wink: I've sold loads since they came out !

maxmix

Nokia never sank. It made a smart move selling its mobile phone side. Nokia went to the bank with money, Microsoft lost a lot then shutting down the mobile division. Not a great move for the employees of that part but it's done similar in the past. Nokia Networks is still very much in the telecommunications market.

Can you get emojis on there?

You know nothing.

That all sounds very reasonable and believable. I didn't want to what I said to be fact, it's just anecdotal evidence based on my own usage - and yes, I definitely agree the phones will try and hold the 'better' network type over signal quality, but as you can't override that (without putting it to '2G only' or similar) that's all I have to go on. But still, this handset (the 'new' 3310) should really have included a 3G compatible SoC, maybe not 4G but the addition of 3G would have been a fraction of the BoM. I suspect the browser is going to be a basic WAP affair (if those pages even exist), I can't imagine a non-smartphone rendering some of the complex pages we have today.

The vast majority of the 2G spectrum on all UK networks is being reutilised for 3G & 4G so there will be fewer and fewer places you will be able use this 2G only phone as this activity progresses. Stupid that they didn't put a 3G chip in it.

What's the battery life on this

Waiting for the 3330 to be re-released

I know someone who got one free doing a survey in Croydon .

The episode where they pull knives, spit on each other and wrestle in the sand arguing about valuation ? (Happens at various landmarks around the country) :confused::laughing:

Phones were great. But Microsoft were 110% to blame for its failure - just fiddled around with a good product and delayed and delayed updating so owners said "Screw this" and went back to iPhone and Android

Don't waste your money, the 2g network gets turned off in 2019.

It is a refurbished, import.

How does this compare to the iPhone 7 ??

I'm not sure which to get..

Thanks in advance..

I am sure nokia had one model where they claimed standby up to a month which in real life a few weeks, so I doubt this one can do that either.... But good to bring memories :innocent:

No, it's fake - there's a difference.

Yea I bought cheap one as had seen so many advertised around same price so thought worth a punt, different seller but same spiel.
Photos on listing were genuine Nokia, what arrived certainly wasn't. When questioned was told it was Malaysian spec, which wasn't mentioned on listing I bought but I see it is on the one from this link. Was offered a further discount but now arranged a return.

+1

Does this come with Snapchat or Facebook pre installed

Be careful with that link, says new in title, then at bottom of listing says it's a refurb, with some accessories possibly missing,imported from malaysia,but seller location london,so on bright side hopefully no import duties.

Does the fact its a rehoused 105 mean that it's has not got proper Bluetooth for handsfree calls then?

How many of you who voted yes will actually go on to buy it?:stuck_out_tongue:

This is to do with the wavelength of the frequencies used. Orange came late to the party and had to settle with 1800mhz, half the wavelength of the other operators which meant reduced coverage meaning more base stations.

The Snake led us to buy the Apple, the source of knowledge.

That may make sense to some


Beware mobile phones.

(The Bible didn't mention android though)

*Nokia 222

Question still stands..

It's only Dual Sim replica 3310's I do ! If you want to see a photo jiust LMK :wink:

maxmix

No WhatsApp! That's the deal breaker for me otherwise would definitely have bought one.

My 950xl works great. Unfortunately there is no replacement to move to on the windows ten ecosystem.

Exactly the same in phone usage.

There is huge market for phones where you are not tracked by Google , Bing, Amazon, Apple.

Rollicks. I've tried to buy a few times all the batteries are rotten or DoA.

does it have whatsapp?

Is this forum for Nostalgia hunters or bargain hunters?
How could you justify such basic phone for about £40. Moreover with the current way of people using the phone, it is practically useless due to the keyboard structure and old 2G technology. Unbeliavable it reaches over 1000 degrees

Load of [email protected], waste of everyones time and money. And doesn't even look like the original!

Suspect hot votes are for Nokia nostalgia as if you do have to top up then this is basically RRP + potentially locked to Vodafone.

A load of people seem to love this new 3310 so I guess I'm just going to have to accept that I'm the crazy one and it really *is* a good design that they've thought through. Clearly they're going to make a killing on these as they can't cost more than 38p to make.

whats the point of this in thud day and age? cant upload your breakfast on social media wjth this (_ :wink:

That's unlucky....

I can't take my eyes off it !

who watched the whole movie as me?

Hmmmm....a couple of eBay feedback comments mention these are fakes. Seems too cheap to be genuine. Do u know if they are genuine? Article on how to tell if it's fake or not.... https://devs-lab.com/spot-fake-nokia-3310-2017.html

What a bag of ****. CPC will sell you a fonerange handset for £13.

There's no point checking if they're real as they're £25. There's no way anyone could be importing and selling these in the UK for half the price of the RRP when there's such high demand.

whats the point?

Is it in China?

Been fancying a non-smart phone, something small, long battery life, however the only deal breaker would be Whatsapp. Is there anything like this available?

you guessed right, they exported all their Xiaomi, Huawei abroad

Only one series Nokia S40 (or Blackberry) WhatsApp stops its support at the end of 2017
https://nokiapoweruser.com/whatsapp-extends-nokia-s40-blackberry-support-till-end-2017-drops-symbian-support/

Several points: smartphone refuseniks, day smartphone - evening basic phone users, no App tracking feature (though of course network knows where you are), backup, a week worth of battery, workplace doesn't allow smartphone but allows emergency phone, work phone issued to employees for call-outs; BTW it has Twitter and email.

Makes some sense, but not at this price.

You do need to by a Vodafone voucher for £10 however its not locked just has a voda sim card pushed in the box. I used a giffgaff sim no problem.

i can confirm this is unlocked tried putting in different sims seems to work well

Tempted to buy his for my dad. Has an old Nokia but wont work in his car Bluetooth. Hoping this one will. However might give me my Wileyfox Swift once my new phone arrives.
He has a Jag XF if anyone has one of these and has trouble downloading the phone book via Bluetooth? Works fine on Android so thinking must just be the Nokia OS on the device...

i have a BMW and will try to see will it works with the idrive bluetooth....

2G 4G 3G.... blah blah blah you guys be like: "3G signal only 2G but we need 4G for **** to HoneyG."

when it said 2.4 polarized curved screen I was thinking this

Yeah that's true. The design is more similar to the 3410 than the 3310 too. The 3210 was the most popular and most sold so I don't know what they're doing.

Picked mine up today. Came unlocked and they voided the £10 voucher at the till, so £38 for an unlocked phone. Happy with the purchase. Cheers OP.