Ooooo look at all the pathetic pc gaming elitist snobs on here.

Get a grip.

1050 is perfectly fine for gaming even at 1080p.

If the 4gb 960m in my old acer nitro can handle most games at medium-high settings at 1080p then the 1050 is more than enough as its a bit faster.

Oh and not everyone is wanting to play the latest "AAA" turds, especially when it comes to PC gaming. Let alone at high settings. PUBG is the current craze and quite honestly if this can't handle a game trapped in 2005 graphically then it shouldn't really be played in the first place.

Sad thing is my MacBook Air can run most of the "best" games on PC from the last few years. Because they're all indie masterpieces.

But no, if I can't play the newest cash grab from EA on max settings at 4k with 32xMSAA 16xAF fully G-synced @144hz with hair works enabled then its not really "gaming" is it? Because gaming is all about graphics over the game itself.

This or the Dell Inspiron 7000?

So many choices.....

I wasn't sure about this but the bag's swung it for me. Thanks OP!

Any know if the screen's decent on this?

Not sure if it's got backlit keyboard and the warranty is for 1year only comparing to 2years in JL.

I'm thinking the same... This has an optical drive and erm... an MSI bag... The HP has JL customer services and 2 year warranty and is £50 cheaper.

This is a better deal IMO, these are 'better quality', the screens are much better than the HP's and you can just pop in a msata SSD and use the other as storage.

Ahh I'm stuck in a rut trying to decide whether to get a PC it laptop for gaming. Mostly 4X stuff so not always needing top specs. Too much choice.

any good for oculus :smiley:

The msi gl62m doesnt have optical drive, also screen is TN panel with low cotrast and brightness thats almost unusable in sunlight. Automatic cooling and poor battery life is another issue. There is more to complain in terms of stability. For example, the base
unit can be depressed too easily in front of the touchpad. The lid twists too easily, which in turn results in image
distortions on the display. No backlight keyboard, no maintenance hatch, in case you want to change some components you have to strip whole back lid off. I would go for omen far more benefits over this one, also more portable and compact size wise. Inspirion 7000 I dont think worth extra 100£ over omen, it does have m2. ssd but that bulkie size and nearly extra half kg of weight... And most disapointed feature for dell 7000 is TN screen at this price point I think its unacceptable.
My personal pick would be omen but some might prefer others!

Bit confused by this. You say TN panels are crap, yet recommend the Omen, which has a TN panel also, and doesn't have a maintenance hatch. The MSI laptop has settings for customised fan settings, not automatic cooling as you say. As for build quality/flex, the msi should be better than the omen, since the omen is plastic and this is brushed aluminium.. but why would you twist your lid? think you're doing something wrong lol

Omen has IPS UWVA anti-glare WLED-backlit panel not a TN panel like MSI or ispiron 7000.
About cooling, it does have MSI dragon centre where you can adjust your fan setings but by default it runs in auto mode that is not configured properly as fans under full load runs at 100% and also at idle produce a whining noise. MSI is also made out of pure matte black plastic, there is no signs of alluminium anywhere. Lid twisting is just a stability test to check the sturdiness of laptop, just to poeple be aware of it. Think about iphones that bends in back pocket, why would anybody bend them on purpose!? Its just to clarify people that material for the base is not the top quallity especially for the laptop at this price tag!

1050 is not gaming. 1050ti would be the absolute minimum to forge a gaming device.

Where does it say that the Omen 15-ax203na has an IPS panel?
I have an MSI, the fans run at what I set it to and do not whine at all :/
I honestly just think the omen looks like they've stuck it in a cheap HP shell, the cooling on it can't be great. Can you change the fan speeds on the omen too? do you have one?

This is not what I would consider a gamin laptop - For gamin you will need something like this http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-omen-15-ce054na-15-6-gaming-laptop-black-10164722-pdt.html

This laptop is only suitable for retro gaming.

A gaming laptop will need a better graphics card - at least an SSD or ideally combination of SSD and HD.

For this price you will get a decent gaming computer but not a laptop.

This is not what i consider a gamin laptop - for gamin you will.... oh wait..

btw if posting an example at least post a decent deal - that one sucked

In the data sheet:
"Display 39.6 cm (15.6") diagonal FHD IPS UWVA anti-glare WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080)

You're all crazy. 1050 will play games absolutely fine. Not on Ultra settings by any means but definitely low-mid settings on most games.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-750-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Mobile/2187vsm211022

1050 outperforms a 750ti and one of my friends that I game with has a 750ti and can play everything I do with my 970, albeit at a lower quality, but still. This includes Battlefield 1 and Playerunknowns Battlegrounds. Another friend even has a 960M in his laptop and plays these games with me, that is a considerably worse chip.

Stop talking crap.

EDIT: Here's some videos to back me up

Battlefield 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7PGk6iFj1U
PUBG - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwzE1aQY2C4 - tested on this model laptop

Ooooo look at all the pathetic pc gaming elitist snobs on here.

Get a grip.

1050 is perfectly fine for gaming even at 1080p.

If the 4gb 960m in my old acer nitro can handle most games at medium-high settings at 1080p then the 1050 is more than enough as its a bit faster.

Oh and not everyone is wanting to play the latest "AAA" turds, especially when it comes to PC gaming. Let alone at high settings. PUBG is the current craze and quite honestly if this can't handle a game trapped in 2005 graphically then it shouldn't really be played in the first place.

Sad thing is my MacBook Air can run most of the "best" games on PC from the last few years. Because they're all indie masterpieces.

But no, if I can't play the newest cash grab from EA on max settings at 4k with 32xMSAA 16xAF fully G-synced @144hz with hair works enabled then its not really "gaming" is it? Because gaming is all about graphics over the game itself.

Few years back, worked for a company who were MSI partners (MSI laptops actually got rebranded) and the ltps were junk, endless warranty issues and component failure issues. Might have improved tenfold, but i wouldn't punt it - much better off with the JL HP

You know that games dont benefit from ssd, and in most cases people have their game library on large hdd or external sources as its simply takes to much space. You can have odd game that you play most istalled on your ssd to save few sec on loading times, but apart from that cant see a point, unless you have couple terabyte ssd in your machine!
Gtx 1050 ir more then capable to play most modern games on 1080p, there might be some exceptions where you would need to do some graphic tweaking for better in game performance.

Yeah, try running R6: Siege, Arma 3 or PUBG. Not good enough.

As above^^

You are correct about framerates/in-game performance. But I'm afraid an SSD will shave more than a few seconds off your loading times!

BF4 takes about 2mins on a spindle, about 20secs on SSD.

On R6:Siege, whilst in the lobby waiting for other players to load. The ones without SSD always hold the rest of us up by about a minute. I know this because they always tell us they don't have SSD.

SSD will dramatically reduce load-times. But that's all.

I always find it hilarious when people try to comment as if they know what they are on about but in reality they have no idea. This person I would assume has never used a SSD or have any idea about how applications (e.g. games) work.

been reported many times that ssds greatly help loading times on maps etc so your comment seems more than a little ironic

I always find it hilarious when people make assumptions about others.
At age 19 I built my first gaming rig, whilst attending a BTEC Nat Dip & HND in Comuter Science (I'm now 34).
Since age 22, I have worked for various IT companies as an engineer, gaining skills and experience in everything from hardware and networking (which really is book 1, page 1) to MS Domains enviroments, MS Exchange, UTM Firewalls, Disaster Recovery and IT Security.

In total, I have built about 7 gaming rigs in my time, all with different specs and different generations of technology.
I am now Head of IT for a large insurance company, managing infrastructure, service desk & development.

I know exactly "what I am on about" and I assure you, I really do "have an idea".

In summary, through my extensive personal experience in gaming hardware and my extensive professional IT experience: I can tell you on authority that an SSD will DRAMATICALLY improve loading performance for
a) operating systems
b) large applications
c) large games

Buy hey, according to your good-self, I've never touched an SSD in my life - so what would I know?

(of course, this is all assuming your comment was aimed at me)

Yeah, you're just wrong on that. It would run those games (don't know about Arma 3), not on Ultra but the games would be playable. Especially PUBG which is poorly optimised though may be better now.
Just go on youtube and you can watch people playing these games on laptops with this configuration.

Actually, YOU are wrong on that. Look at these figures published by reputable benchmarkers.
It still gets beaten by the 670 - which is quite an old card now.
You can literally double/triple your FPS by moving to the 1060.
to me, less than 30 fps is not playable:

Performance Stats:
- Project Cars - average 43pfs, 1080p - Tom's Hardware
- Total War: Warhammer - ave. 22.4fps @ 1080p - Techpowerup
- The Witcher 3 - ave. 32.4fps @ 1080p - Techpowerup
- Rise of The Tomb Raiser - ave. 19.4fps - @ 1080p - Techpowerup

I conclude, this is not a card which will provide reliable or consistent AAA 1080p gaming performance on a PC.

Think you are misinterpreting what I said. I was talking about the person he was replying to not he was incorrect.

Put it this way, i have a laptop with these specs and it plays The Witcher 3 absolutley no problem. Not on Ultra but more than playable, as is Rise of the Tomb Raider which looks fantastic on it. So 1050 is a gaming card, which is what I disuputed in your original statement.

I can load bf4 40-50sec from hdd just checked, maybe take a bit longer for bfh and bf1 to load but i wouldnt call that dramatically faster. I also had my origin game library on ssd, had it on nmwe drive before but couldnt see any improvements in loading time over standart samsung evo ssd. If you play games frequently its good to have one at least for them games thats benefits a lot from ssd. Sure its one of best upgrades that pc can have to speed everything up in many different ways, but I wouldnt say its a "must have" for games. Since I work a lot with PS CC Im using my ssd's as a scratch disk, and this is where you really can see a benefit of having a ssd over a standart hdd especially when working with a large project or banners.
Also worth mention that todays games use around 40-50gb if you dont have any mods or extra content wioth it, so in a standart 120gb ssd that cames in most laptops that has both storages you will only be able to install 1-2 games on it, and still end with rest of them on hdd.
R6 :S iege You can be waiting in lobby for other players all the time, as there will always be someone who run his games from hdd.

Hi, not sure if this is a silly question but Could you use the ocolus rift using this laptop? I did see the minimum spec is a 960 but curious if this would be fine

I run PUBG and arma 3 on a 1050. Abolutely no problems at all. Obviously not on ultra like i said but mid-high settings at 60-70 fps no problem.

Stop talking rubbish.

Good for you, I published factual benchmarks.