I've had the G4 Plus until now and just got the G5 Plus and it really does feel like a noticeable step up - like previous poster, I love the sensor swipe to navigate option and the camera results indoor look really really promising so far.

But it is twice the price. The G4 Plus is a good phone, it's just I love the G5 Plus.

Surely the myth that more pixels is better has been dispelled by now? It simply is not the case, surely you know that? The Spark X camera has an aperture of f/2.8, generally f/2.0 is the standard for budget cameras now (pretty certain the 13mp on the standard G5 is for f/2.0 for example), f/2.8 is really poor. The G4 Plus came in the top ten mobile cameras on DXOMark a very respectable result (oh and it has 16MP, the even more excellent G5 Plus camera has 12MP)
https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Motorola-Moto-G-Plus-Mobile-review-a-very-capable-camera

13mp vs 12?

Surely the Wileyfox Spark x is a better deal for £80?

Thanks for the reply. I decided to cancel the g4+ and went for the g5+. My original budget was £200 when I was looking at the p2 and the honor 6x. This ticks most boxes for me as it's a fair bit smaller than the note3 and the camera gets good reviews and figures crossed will see the next android update. Looking forward to seeing the back of this note3!!

Well the camera on the G5+ is better, not night and day better and it still isn't perfect but it is better. The G4+ shoots slow motion at 520p while the G5+ shoots it at 720p (not a big deal but it's another bonus)

I can't say whether it's worth an extra £100 as it's subjective but my missus got the G4+ after I got the G5+ and I don't regret paying more.

For me both are great phones and are better than the budget tag they get given. I really enjoy the 5 and she really likes her 4 but neither of us are really into phones so for our budget and needs we are both happy.

If I had to recommend one it would be the 5+ but that £100 is a big difference so it's a tough choice.

I'm afraid to say I don't know as I've never used it. The phone has NFC and from what I know that's what makes android pay work but please check with others who use it. Sorry I can't help

Could you kindly tell me if its worth going for g5+ instrad of the g4+? Worth the extra money?

Mine sits around 1.2gb. It's a good phone though, I've been very pleased with the G4 for the price.

People moan about the lack of ram but forget there is a lack of bloatware too.

2gb Ram is fine on the G4 plus. The lack of NFC therefore Android Pay will put off some but didn't bother me. I'm going for the G5 plus for the extra CPU grunt and the extra low light camera performance, plus longevity and the current g5 plus deal makes it a good time to jump while I can still get a good price for my G4 plus... As soon as the G4 plus Warehouse deal goes obviously :smile:

My girlfriend has the G4+ and I have the G5+. Not that anyone will but feel free to ask any questions regarding them if it helps :smile:

I have a G4 and love it - BUT - the ghost touch is a right royal pain in the rear when it starts doing it ....... it's hard to get it to power down, by the time you do it has done all kinds of stuff by itself which can be really annoying.

So, I would go for the G5 ..

Used like new all gone

Really tempted yesterday but after a bit of research found out the 16GB version is only 2GB RAM. Went with the G5 instead and will give it a try tomorrow cheeky A bit smaller screen but an extra GB of RAM and Dual Sim worth the extra £30 to me cheeky

Thx OP have just ordered a "Like New" one for £104.61. I've been thinking of the G5+ Carphone Warehouse deal for most of the day at £190 (£200 - £10 cashback), but how could anyone justify the extra cost compared to this deal? Insanely HOT!

can android pay be used on this phone?

Think this is better than paying more for smaller screen G5

thanks I think I will go for the moto G4 plus for the bigger screen but thanks for your opinion

I have a Moto G4 Plus right now, but I'm upgrading to the G5 *Plus* for the camera boost.It all depends on what you want from a phone and what budget you have. You get a bigger screen and similar CPU performance to the *standard* G5, for less (plus Gorilla Glass) with the G4 Plus. But the G5 will likely get one version Android further than the G4 Plus.

White version is also the dual sim version.

Link comes up at £259.99: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01GZZK95O/?tag=ho01f-21