"I could build one, better spec, for £64"
:man:

Back in the days when a GTX 480 used 300W and your pentium 4 used 150W, big power supplies were necessary.

These days a quad core draws 65W, the 1070 draws about 150W, and this thing isn't bristling with optical drives or LEDs. It just doesn't need more than maybe 300W... assuming the power supply can actually output that safely mind you, a lot of the cheap ones can't.

Intel Core i5 quad core.
7400.7th gen CPU.

Processor speed 3GHz.
16GB DDR4 RAM 2133 MHz......Hynix: HMA41GU6AFR8NTFN0

Motherboard ECS: B250H4-EM
PSU HEC: 450TC (450 watts)

HDD Western Digital: D20EZRX-22D8PB0
Hard drive: 2TB


Graphics:

Dedicated graphics.
NVIDIA GeForce 1070 with 8000MB memory.
Interfaces and connectivity:

Multi-card media card reader.
4 x USB 2.0 ports.
6 x USB 3.0 ports.
Ethernet port.Gigabit 10/100/1000 MBit/s
Wired keyboard and mouse.
Operating system and software:

Microsoft Windows 10.
General features:
Size H490, W205, D500cm.
Weight 16kg.
Power saving facility.
EAN: 4015625790737.

Wifi enabled is not certain as specs on argos ebay listing mention it but not on argos.co.uk listing.
Just checked medion website, wifi is enabled on this PC :smiley:

MedionWebsiteListing

Q&A says it is not Wi-Fi enabled.

"I could build one, better spec, for £64"
:man:

Actually an 'okay' deal. Think it would cost around £850 to build in parts (roughly).

Is this Good for 4k video editing and music production? confused

Great for VR too.

Voted hot, seems like a pretty decent deal to me. Actually tempted to order one myself cause as someone has already stated, this is quite close to the price for building yourself but without the hassle! Obviously a SSD and i7 would be better but for £850 I'm finding nothing to complain about!

Hot deal if you don't want to build, max out all games argos having a few decent gaming pc deals recently.

is that PSU correct?

Reserved... now I have until 21st when they deliver it to store to make my mind up! Thanks for posting!

No problem,been a while since i posted a deal and have noticed gaming desktop deals on here have been steadily on the decrease.

Yeah, I've been looking for a good deal for a little while, former pc gamer stuck on PS4/Xbo due to space in my old house! Just moved and the spare room is becoming a little gaming den, this will eat the games I want to play alive! :smile: can't wait!

Wot no SSD?!?

When I stopped building PCs the minimum was 600W of good quality PSUs. I did not expect for the requirements to go down TBH

Any idea how W10 would work if I would swap system drive for SSD?

Processors use less watts nowadays

Back in the days when a GTX 480 used 300W and your pentium 4 used 150W, big power supplies were necessary.

These days a quad core draws 65W, the 1070 draws about 150W, and this thing isn't bristling with optical drives or LEDs. It just doesn't need more than maybe 300W... assuming the power supply can actually output that safely mind you, a lot of the cheap ones can't.

A similar Ryzen system I parted up was only showing a 350w draw. PSU's are getting more and more efficient in low/mid end. Only the insane top end throws efficiency out the window I find.

Should be simple, as far as I'm aware the license is primarily tied to the motherboard rather than the drive with 10 - should be a quick and painless swap. My only concern with this tbh is whether or not you void your warranty doing that.

Confirmed wifi enabled on this PC.From spec list on Medion website.

MedionWebsiteSpec
This model also has a nice hot swap bay for easily adding a ssd /hard drive,also comes with a metal plate, something to do with Graphics card options possibly, will find out more tuesday.

Had a couple of Medion products over the last few years. Wouldn't touch another with a bargepole.

Awesome price. Even if you build it yourself around same price, of course you do have full control of what components rather than this where you may get less quality parts but still a solid pc here.

Really not a bad deal, but regardless of your views on how much juice it actually needs I'd whip that PSU out and replace it with something nice, branded EVGA/Seasonic/Superflower - just to avoid the hassle when the cheap nasty PSU pops.

I was surprised when putting together a build on pc specialist that it came up with a warning that an 750w PSU was way more than the 350w required for this build. They actually tried to recommend a cheaper and lower watt unit, even said they don't like to overcharge customer. Crazy!

Good price. Good deal.

But it would be tragic not to install a SSD boot drive.

Not exactly hot imo. Make sure the warranty is great if you insist on going this route.

Also add a SSD to the price. Its a crime aginst humanity to not use one nowadays :stuck_out_tongue:

A high power PSU can be less efficient, more expensive to run and hotter at low power levels than a lower rated unit.

How does this compare to this pc? https://www.expertec.co.uk/gaming-pc-s/core-i5-intel/core-i5-7500-kaby-lake-7th-gen-gaming-pc-2gb-gtx-1050-windows-7-pro-1078.html

I built a similar rig for less with a 1070 and 32gb RAM. Plays everything over 60fps.

Is this generation of i5 significantly worse than the equivalent i7? 850 quid seems quite expensive for the mid range processor to me.

would this be ok for vr?

Tempted to buy on 12 months interest free credit, been wavering the past few days. Already got a Medion from 5 years back that is still going strong.

Just ordered to go with oculus I bought a few days ago. Quidco giving 1% cashback

Great card. CPU isn't that great for the price. Weaker than my 5 year old cpu.

Voted hot. £849... a good £400 of that is on the 1070 card alone, (yes you can get lower than that if you know where to look). I just built a ryzen 5 1600 pc build with a gtx1060, evga 650 watt psu, crucial 16Gb RAM, seagate 2Tb hdd, Corsair Carbide spec alpha case, Gigabyte 350m motherboard. For a total of 729.95. Having a 1070 instead of a 1060 would most likely bring the cost on par with this offer. the only advantage building one have is you know what goes into your PC. 849 i5 with a 1070 is a sweet deal in any case

If you have access to xexec.com, perhaps through your utilities provider... you can get an 8% discount using argos e-vouchers bringing cost down to £781..i did not mention TCB as last 4 items have not tracked for me so lost confidence in it.

Different socket. You can't replace this i5 with a ryzen unless you buy a new mb as well. £765 for this is well worth it though. I'm using i5 haswell and I think i5s will be good for a few years yet

Mine arrived this evening, setting it up now.

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Speccy reports a 4 GB 1070,but google tells me this is just a software glitch in reporting.

Despite Medion website confirming Wi-Fi enabled on this model, sadly it is not. Have updated listing to reflect this.

I fully understand that - hence asking about the motherboard sizing! :laughing: Obviously i'd take the H110 board out with the i5 for the brother, and replace with a b350/r5 1600.

Yeah, unlike previous gen system gpus there only exists an 8gb flavour of the 1070 :stuck_out_tongue:

Ahh sorry so you're not completely clueless then! I would use the i5 for a few years first. It won't noticeably bottleneck the 1070 for a while. You will get the odd game which uses 100% CPU but that doesn't happen often and only seems to happen in certain circumstances

Yeah I've built a few systems, currently I've an aging i5 2500k and an R9 285... both getting a bit long in the tooth. If 1070s weren't still going for crazy money I'd build myself but at £400 a pop compared to the £300 the lower end ones should retail for the savings hard to ignore.

I was eyeing this up today

https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/palit-geforce-gtx-1080-dual-oc/neb1080u15p2-1045d.html

Only £100 more than I paid for my 1070 before prices went stupid. If I could justify a new pc right now I would probably that in it

If it's listed as having something which it turns out not to have, I'd be insisting on a discount. just point out that they'll have to sell it discounted as a customer return, so they might as well pass the saving on to you. Customer good will, blah, blah and all that.

I'm still working from a 1000W power supply.... I had intermittent power cut outs when the rig was under strain, so it's just easier to be comfortable in the knowledge that I can upgrade further without worrying about the PSU :smiley: There's no point IMHO trying to get a power supply just above what you expect the power draw to be, as it only becomes problematic years down the line if/when upgrading components.
On the plus side, my room is like an oven on a winter's night. On the down side, my room is like an oven on a summer's night.

Any initial impressions on this? Is it quiet?

At current prices its definitely worth the extra 50 or so. But its still excessive for me - I don't plan on moving from a 1080p panel for a long time. Still a route though.

Thanks for the reply. The HD sounds like the one in the last Medion I got, not excessively noisy if gaming but at the desktop could definitely hear it if I were seated nearby. Worth checking to see what the squeak is, I'm guessing it may disappear after a little usage.

Bully: if you do open it up a pic of the inside would be appreciated, thinking about grabbing this. Would be nice to see if the MB has a m.2 slot and how easy it would be to pop in old pc's hdd in.

Cheers.

Hope this helps!

Checked all the connections as best I can but still have that annoying squeak,every 10 to 15 seconds....hopefully I can get used to it, downloading steam games at the moment to test out the 1070.

If the hdd is noisy it might not have acoustic management turned on. depending on the drive brand they usually have a tool that lets you manage internal features of drives, I've used the seagate and WD tools before.

The listing is at 2133, I do think its just an error in the reporting tho like the 4gb 1070

I can confirm speed is 2133

Thanks for the pics bully, looks like there is a m.2 slot under the graphics card. Would really speed up the pc if one is installed. Trying to look does it have any spare Sata power plugs, if you wanted to pop in another hdd? Sure the motherboard has spare Sata ports for more drives.

Now you've used it a little is the performance as good as you expected? I'm imagining it'll hit 60fps at 1080p easily in most titles.

Removed from the Argos website now, though the EBay listing is still up.

Is it worth going to argos argue that they reduced further something a few days ago was "lowest price ever" ?

Hi. I got my PC on Friday and it makes the same odd noise. It was the DVD drive which I've unplugged as I will rarely use it.

No noise now!

Is it wifi enabled?

WiFi enabled???