Brand new HP chromebook 11 in tesco direct for £169 discounts to £149 with code TDX-WPJC at checkout,only until 30th July.
Was just looking for a small cheap as possible new chromebook for an older relative to replace their accidentally broken one. (an original 2013 hp chromebook 11) Good I thought for a brand new one,successor of original with a warranty,similar price to some refurb deals.
Obviously its a chromebook,no use to anyone who needs a windows or mac laptop or desktop,can concede that without any debate.
Low specs that you'd only get away with on a chromebook,this is a basic entry level model,no touchscreen and no good if you want the new android apps etc to replace a tablet as well.
But might be of interest if anyone on the lookout for just a basic cheap chromebook of the original type for some secure web surfing email facebook HDMI out etc thats brand new with warranty etc.
I personally really like Chromebooks and tend to wax lyrical,I think you have to use one to understand the appeal,especially around security and simplicity and find upkeep of the windows laptop more hassle for more than I need. I don't really need its power or indeed mac's which look nice but a bit expensive just for a basic user. Tend to just grab the chromebook these days for my needs. There are limitations though so they're not for everyone. Horses for courses as they say.
For our very non computer savvy older relative (who originally fancied a tablet but didn't get on too well with touchscreens) it has been a big success. In nearly 4 years of use no dramas around updates or viruses or slow down etc. My own original HP Chromebook 11 does everything I need very well and simply. Although personally for myself I would probably pay a wee bit more and go for a slightly bigger and higher spec Chromebook next time with touch and maybe tablet mode etc but for my older relative this was exactly what they wanted as they had no interest in any of the extras and thought might just help someone else in similar position too.
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ollie87 to Keith9534
28 Jul 173#23
Easiest way
1) Plug in a compatible printer
2) Print
Slightly harder way
1) Setup Google Cloud Print on your existing desktop with a printer plugged in
2) Print
More expensive way
1) Buy a Google Cloud Print printer
2) Print
Zellith
27 Jul 173#6
Unless this model is getting Android support in the future, I would avoid it. My Lenovo Chromebook N22 I got from Amazon for 100 quid has android support (So I can load all kinda apps from the google play store)
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winchman
30 Jul 17#74
Plenty of chromebooks running on 7 or 8k on octane. The N3450 is pretty good for lots of people who aren't wanting to play the latest game.
Picard123
30 Jul 17#73
You sure do talk alot for someone who doesn't offer any working solutions....
alg
29 Jul 17#72
No - I've gone from saying USB printing is possible under ChromeOS to also suggesting that crouton is an option for adding many more (including legacy) printers that ChromeOS doesn't currently support.
For what it's worth, my ChromeBook correctly recognises my Samsung printer, but being even older than yours, I don't expect it to work, but it does from my modern Linux desktop, which is absolutely fine.
And with that, back to work, where even the trolls can be reasoned with....
Picard123
29 Jul 17#71
So now you've moved away from saying direct USB printing through ChromeOS is possible to direct USB printing on a Linux distro is possible.
Don't be disappointed if no one thanks you for your contributions.....
alg
29 Jul 17#70
Of course, the really obvious way to gain support for loads of printers, especially on the x86 based Chromebooks is to install crouton, and then you have a full Linux. That should even work for your Samsung.
Picard123
29 Jul 17#69
The N3450 is absolutely fine basic tasks. Hell, you can even play older games on it. It's memory which more important at this spec.
I've seen all that but never seen it actually working though on any non-HP printer without the HP app.
HottyHotty
29 Jul 17#67
And that has an N3450? I thought Surface line runs i5/i7s. I'll defer to you then anyway given you have experience, I was just guessing. The N3450 has an octane score of about 11k, which is just enough to run a chromebook. Have used windows laptops with far stronger processors that run like total crap.
Evidence of the fact that CUPS is part of ChromeOS is under chrome://flags the search for Native CUPS Chrome OS.
And for the ability to add drivers for native printing: go Chromebook settings -> Printers -> Add Printer -> Add (for adding a printer manually), and then you can install a driver.
Sorry if my attempts to help fall short of your, no doubt, many years of expertise. I guess I'll just have to go back to my day job where my efforts might be appreciated.
Picard123
29 Jul 17#65
Are you able to provide a link to the extension that you say should be installed?
At the moment, you come across as guessing wildly and don't actually know what you're talking about....
alg
29 Jul 17#64
For supported printers, install the extension, plug in the printer, choose print, then select from the list of local printers.
I'm not a Google developer, but if you get in touch I'm sure they'll consider your request to add support for a very old Samsung printer.
Picard123
29 Jul 17#63
The Surface Pro 4 has a "v high resolution screen and windows". Why you do think that is a disaster?
Picard123
29 Jul 17#62
So basically, you don't actually know how to print via USB.
Ok, got it.
HottyHotty
29 Jul 17#61
that processor running a v high resolution screen and windows sounds like a disaster to me. most people would be far better off with the r13. most i emphasise
alg
29 Jul 17#60
There are an awful lot of HP printers in the world - whether they use the HP extension or not, they can work through USB. The HP extension is the equivalent of installing a driver in Windows/Linux/OS X, so why discount them as being the examples you want. (And when was the last time you plugged a printer into a machine that didn't use a driver? Windows and Linux have many of them built into the kernel or driver database, but can always be added to from additional resources).
Just because you have an 11 year old Samsung laser doesn't mean ChromeOS can't print over USB. I'm just waiting for you to argue that it doesn't work through the Centronics port on the printer. :laughing: I agreed in my last comment that not all USB printers will work, but you're still taking quite an aggressive tone over this.
Most printers bought over the last 5 or 6 years are wireless enabled, and will now work with ChromeOS whether or not they are Cloud Print certified, and ChromeBooks by their nature are portable devices which for many people wouldn't want or need to be shackled by USB connections. As I also mentioned, CUPS is now included inside ChromeOS, and with that functionality more and more printer support can happen - it is reasonable to expect support for printers that are five years old, but older than that it really is down to goodwill support from Google.
This has now wandered too far away from the original topic, which is a decent priced ChromeBook, so with that I'll go and get on with the rest of my life.
Dodgermac
29 Jul 17#59
Which second hand Chromebook on ebay would you guys recomend to buy for best value ?
Thanks...
ollie87
29 Jul 17#58
\x0d\x0a\x0d\x0aFirstly, it's "a lot" not "alot"\x0d\x0a\x0d\x0aSecondly if you've got a massive laser printer chances are you probably own a desktop computer too, so setup Google Cloud Print with that. That way you can even print to your printer when you're not at home.
Picard123
29 Jul 17#57
Show me an actual example of a USB printer working that is connected to ChromeOS using USB and which isn't using the HP ChromeOS app. An actual example, rather than making a vague reference to 'something you heard somewhere on the internet from someone you can't remember.....'
janner43
28 Jul 17#56
Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate it.
alg
28 Jul 17#55
So, a printer that came supplied with a Windows 95 driver? And many of the available drivers were GDI?
For what it's worth, there are linux drivers available, according to the manual - the newest version of linux that I saw mentioned was Red Hat 6 - that's way before RHEL 6, and given that Fedora is now up at version 26, that's quite old.
I think the amicable thing to do is agree that some USB printers work, some don't. My original point was that you don't specifically need a network printer - some USB ones do work, and native printing allows some USB and some non-Google Cloud Print devices to work, whereas previously they didn't.
In addition, you can add drivers to ChromeOS if your device is not one of the many included in the OS at present. Or you can always aim for closest relative model.
ottosump288
28 Jul 17#41
Excuse my ignorance, but can you install & run microsoft office software on these?
rheumatoid to ottosump288
28 Jul 17#42
No
Dan_999 to ottosump288
28 Jul 17#54
Not download and install but Office 365 offers web based apps for Word and Excel. Office 365 Outlook is great. Or you can use Google Docs.
Dan_999
28 Jul 17#53
I bought this one a couple of months ago as it seemed ideal but just couldn't get away with the very poor quality screen. It was so washed out, grey and low resolution especially after switching between iPhone and this.
I went ahead and bought the HP 13 Pro and it's excellent. I know it's 3x the cost but worth it IMO. I use it daily, build quality and screen are great. Downside is battery life - it is good but no where near this one. Trade off for better screen I guess.
As with all things, no printer is ever guaranteed to work on all platforms. However, what model of printer is it? and what version of ChromeOS?
Picard123
28 Jul 17#50
My Samsung is plugged into my Chromebook's USB port as we speak.
Tell me how to print.
alg
28 Jul 17#49
Sorry - why wouldn't you be able to use a Windows driver on ChromeOS? ChromeOS is a version of Linux, and Linux has been capable of using Windows drivers with wrappers for printers and wi-fi dongles for years.
As for me not using USB printing, there are comments from people on the internet of people who do print from Chromebooks using USB. Add in the fact that ChromeOS now has a version of CUPS built in, and lots more options for printing open up.
In the meantime, you've just said that you have a Samsung device - but not mentioned what device it is. Of the two printers I have in my house, one is pre-cloud, and works using native printing, and the other is nearly a dozen years old, and has a Linux driver available for it, as it works as a printer and scanner for my Linux desktop. If I need to print on it, I use Google Drive to move stuff between the Chromebook and the desktop machine.
Picard123
28 Jul 17#48
For £250, it will be worth a punt for some, even if it's refurbed.
Please do explain how you install the relevant Samsung printer driver for ChromeOS when none exist and there's nothing on the Samsung website.
That explains alot! :laughing:
alg
28 Jul 17#46
By using a printer driver? Admittedly, I've not tried USB printing, but have seen many people over the past year saying they have done it.
The new native printing support works with my (pre-Cloud Print) wireless printer without a driver, but the, ahem, wizard, does allow the installation of a printer driver. It doesn't say whether it's a linux or M$ Windows one.
I'm not up for digging round the back of my positively pre-historic Samsung SCX-4100 to try getting it to work over USB though.
alg
28 Jul 17#45
No, but you can use Office online.
dozstanford
27 Jul 17#3
Which Chromebook has an aluminium chassis, 4GB RAM with an upgradeable drive.... someone posted it a few days ago in an unrelated post but I can't seem to find it now.
^^^ 4GB, Core m3, aluminium build, 64GB eMMC, high res screen, backlit keyboard etc. Don't think the storage is upgradeable though. The Chromebook that I've seen with a m2 slot for upgrading the SSD is the Acer 720 and that's an older Chromebook.
Acer R13 has 4GB ram, aluminium chassis, 12hr battery life, no ssd upgrade though
One on ebay (open box - I just bought one from same seller it's brand new) for £249.99 at the mo.
rheumatoid
28 Jul 17#43
The Acer for the extra tenner seems generally better reviewed
krazyasif786
28 Jul 17#40
can u add an ssd to this?
thel33ter
28 Jul 17#39
My dad just got one to replace a Lenovo N20 that died a few days before the warranty expired (Amazon gave a full refund). This one is much better built and has an excellent keyboard. Display is ok for the money.
Picard123
28 Jul 17#38
Yeah? How.
There's that HP app, but it's pretty useless for my Samsung laser...
davewave
28 Jul 17#37
totally agree, printing from chromebook to hp printer is seamless!
JohnBUK
28 Jul 171#36
Printing with this CB - get an HP printer (one here for £29). This will print from the HP Print for Chrome app in the Web Store and also scan using the webscan feature (enter ip address of printer into URL when it is on your wifi network). I suspect it will also work with the new "native printing" process via USB connection.
Battery life really takes the cake on these things. I have a toshiba chromebook I paid around £100 for and its perfect for general use. Works great in lectures, even if getting used to google docs took me a few weeks.
gsusx
28 Jul 17#33
Ahhhh the original HP 11 chrome book. One of the best machines I ever ever bought. I loved that little thing, the design was beautiful, every time i used it it brought a smile to my face, yes it was plastic but it just felt so god damn good. The keyboard and screen were lovely. Just a shame about that blasted charging port :disappointed:
Keith9534
28 Jul 17#18
I love my chromebooks...any tips on getting them to print?
ollie87 to Keith9534
28 Jul 173#23
Easiest way
1) Plug in a compatible printer
2) Print
Slightly harder way
1) Setup Google Cloud Print on your existing desktop with a printer plugged in
2) Print
More expensive way
1) Buy a Google Cloud Print printer
2) Print
Hannah76596756 to Keith9534
28 Jul 17#24
I print from my Chromebook.
I used to have to do it via a printer with my desktop connected to it.
But recently I bought a new printer that I can print directly from my Chromebook.
Don't ask me how this works!
But I asked in a good shop and they told me what to buy.
Picard123 to Keith9534
28 Jul 17#28
You need a network ready printer. Google it.
ahenry to Keith9534
28 Jul 17#29
I have a Samsung ML2020W laser printer which supports printing from WiFi, chromebooks, iPads, iPhones and Android, and has reasonably priced compatible toners. It is fine for printing up to 10-20 pages. For more than that, the output tray is a bit small and they can end up on the floor.
It was about £60. It looks like the current model is the M2026W
If you have ChromeOS 59 installed, you can now do printing to devices that are not Cloud ready. Do a google for chromebook native printing for more details.
ro888
28 Jul 17#25
I am sure it won't work in China though, lol.
JayCamp
28 Jul 17#22
nice one --that's one xmas present sorted
deanpaulwalker
28 Jul 17#21
Good deal but chrome books aren’t my thing
janner43
28 Jul 17#13
I love Chromebooks & this price is superb. I'd upgrade... when I can find a 4gb 13" version with an HD IPS screen at under £200...
if this is an old entry model Chromebook, why are people saying they will 'upgrade'?
or are you talking about the other models mentioned in the comments?
jami3rez
28 Jul 171#12
I normally use a MacBook Pro, but have one of these for work and it's utterly brilliant for the price. Really well made and feels good to use, highly recommended!
winko89
27 Jul 17#9
The Asus C302 is damn nice but it's silly money, needs to be around the £300-400 mark
Picard123 to winko89
27 Jul 17#11
Agreed. Nice Chromebook but it is silly money. Maybe it will come down in price later this year as it's only been released fairly recently. We just seem to get ripped off in the UK as it's $470 in the US on Amazon.
happymanuk
27 Jul 171#10
I've had a Samsung Chromebook for a few years now and love it. I am seriously considering the upgrade to this one.
rew33
27 Jul 17#8
Heads up deal ,thanks
Zellith
27 Jul 173#6
Unless this model is getting Android support in the future, I would avoid it. My Lenovo Chromebook N22 I got from Amazon for 100 quid has android support (So I can load all kinda apps from the google play store)
newxperias
27 Jul 17#5
Yes the hp Chromebook 13 looks nice. As does the new Samsung ones and the Asus C302. As you say though not cheap but probably very nice to use.
p.s just reread original post, apologies a bit more long winded than intended
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Opening post
Brand new HP chromebook 11 in tesco direct for £169 discounts to £149 with code TDX-WPJC at checkout,only until 30th July.
Was just looking for a small cheap as possible new chromebook for an older relative to replace their accidentally broken one. (an original 2013 hp chromebook 11)
Good I thought for a brand new one,successor of original with a warranty,similar price to some refurb deals.
Obviously its a chromebook,no use to anyone who needs a windows or mac laptop or desktop,can concede that without any debate.
Low specs that you'd only get away with on a chromebook,this is a basic entry level model,no touchscreen and no good if you want the new android apps etc to replace a tablet as well.
But might be of interest if anyone on the lookout for just a basic cheap chromebook of the original type for some secure web surfing email facebook HDMI out etc thats brand new with warranty etc.
I personally really like Chromebooks and tend to wax lyrical,I think you have to use one to understand the appeal,especially around security and simplicity and find upkeep of the windows laptop more hassle for more than I need.
I don't really need its power or indeed mac's which look nice but a bit expensive just for a basic user. Tend to just grab the chromebook these days for my needs.
There are limitations though so they're not for everyone. Horses for courses as they say.
For our very non computer savvy older relative (who originally fancied a tablet but didn't get on too well with touchscreens) it has been a big success.
In nearly 4 years of use no dramas around updates or viruses or slow down etc.
My own original HP Chromebook 11 does everything I need very well and simply.
Although personally for myself I would probably pay a wee bit more and go for a slightly bigger and higher spec Chromebook next time with touch and maybe tablet mode etc but for my older relative this was exactly what they wanted as they had no interest in any of the extras and thought might just help someone else in similar position too.
Top comments
1) Plug in a compatible printer
2) Print
Slightly harder way
1) Setup Google Cloud Print on your existing desktop with a printer plugged in
2) Print
More expensive way
1) Buy a Google Cloud Print printer
2) Print
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For what it's worth, my ChromeBook correctly recognises my Samsung printer, but being even older than yours, I don't expect it to work, but it does from my modern Linux desktop, which is absolutely fine.
And with that, back to work, where even the trolls can be reasoned with....
Don't be disappointed if no one thanks you for your contributions.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu2kLXL8W6o
Evidence of the fact that CUPS is part of ChromeOS is under chrome://flags the search for Native CUPS Chrome OS.
And for the ability to add drivers for native printing: go Chromebook settings -> Printers -> Add Printer -> Add (for adding a printer manually), and then you can install a driver.
Sorry if my attempts to help fall short of your, no doubt, many years of expertise. I guess I'll just have to go back to my day job where my efforts might be appreciated.
At the moment, you come across as guessing wildly and don't actually know what you're talking about....
I'm not a Google developer, but if you get in touch I'm sure they'll consider your request to add support for a very old Samsung printer.
Ok, got it.
Just because you have an 11 year old Samsung laser doesn't mean ChromeOS can't print over USB. I'm just waiting for you to argue that it doesn't work through the Centronics port on the printer. :laughing: I agreed in my last comment that not all USB printers will work, but you're still taking quite an aggressive tone over this.
Most printers bought over the last 5 or 6 years are wireless enabled, and will now work with ChromeOS whether or not they are Cloud Print certified, and ChromeBooks by their nature are portable devices which for many people wouldn't want or need to be shackled by USB connections. As I also mentioned, CUPS is now included inside ChromeOS, and with that functionality more and more printer support can happen - it is reasonable to expect support for printers that are five years old, but older than that it really is down to goodwill support from Google.
This has now wandered too far away from the original topic, which is a decent priced ChromeBook, so with that I'll go and get on with the rest of my life.
Thanks...
For what it's worth, there are linux drivers available, according to the manual - the newest version of linux that I saw mentioned was Red Hat 6 - that's way before RHEL 6, and given that Fedora is now up at version 26, that's quite old.
I think the amicable thing to do is agree that some USB printers work, some don't. My original point was that you don't specifically need a network printer - some USB ones do work, and native printing allows some USB and some non-Google Cloud Print devices to work, whereas previously they didn't.
In addition, you can add drivers to ChromeOS if your device is not one of the many included in the OS at present. Or you can always aim for closest relative model.
I went ahead and bought the HP 13 Pro and it's excellent. I know it's 3x the cost but worth it IMO. I use it daily, build quality and screen are great. Downside is battery life - it is good but no where near this one. Trade off for better screen I guess.
https://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-ml-6040-printer-monochrome-laser/specs/
...connected to Version 59.0.3071.134 (64-bit)
Tell me how to print.
As for me not using USB printing, there are comments from people on the internet of people who do print from Chromebooks using USB. Add in the fact that ChromeOS now has a version of CUPS built in, and lots more options for printing open up.
In the meantime, you've just said that you have a Samsung device - but not mentioned what device it is. Of the two printers I have in my house, one is pre-cloud, and works using native printing, and the other is nearly a dozen years old, and has a Linux driver available for it, as it works as a printer and scanner for my Linux desktop. If I need to print on it, I use Google Drive to move stuff between the Chromebook and the desktop machine.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acer-Chromebook-R13-CB5-312T-13-3-Touchscreen-Laptop-4GB-RAM-MediaTek-Quad-Core-/192260372111
For £250 though, I'd rather get a Chuwi Lapbook 12.3 (Windows).
http://www.gearbest.com/laptops/pp_622091.html
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/chuwi-lapbook-123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaoIsUK0ZbE
Or Jumper 3 if battery life is a more of a priority:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6LZz9IEY-g
The older Jumper 3 14" is also a bit of a bargain at £150 though it is (very) 'low end' in terms of build, components etc.
http://www.gearbest.com/laptops/pp_607750.html?lkid=10347046
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Jumper-EZBook-3-N3350-FHD-Laptop-Review.209142.0.html
Please do explain how you install the relevant Samsung printer driver for ChromeOS when none exist and there's nothing on the Samsung website.
That explains alot! :laughing:
The new native printing support works with my (pre-Cloud Print) wireless printer without a driver, but the, ahem, wizard, does allow the installation of a printer driver. It doesn't say whether it's a linux or M$ Windows one.
I'm not up for digging round the back of my positively pre-historic Samsung SCX-4100 to try getting it to work over USB though.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/27/asus-chromebook-flip-c302-review/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtSlhqHolso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x-n7SsFq9E
^^^ 4GB, Core m3, aluminium build, 64GB eMMC, high res screen, backlit keyboard etc. Don't think the storage is upgradeable though. The Chromebook that I've seen with a m2 slot for upgrading the SSD is the Acer 720 and that's an older Chromebook.
http://uk.pcmag.com/acer-chromebook-14/83247/review/acer-chromebook-14
http://uk.pcmag.com/laptops/10417/guide/the-best-chromebooks-of-2017
One on ebay (open box - I just bought one from same seller it's brand new) for £249.99 at the mo.
There's that HP app, but it's pretty useless for my Samsung laser...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acer-Chromebook-11-CB3-131-C8D2-Laptop-11-6-2GB-RAM-16GB-HDD-Chrome-OS-/352075111740?hash=item51f94fdd3c
1) Plug in a compatible printer
2) Print
Slightly harder way
1) Setup Google Cloud Print on your existing desktop with a printer plugged in
2) Print
More expensive way
1) Buy a Google Cloud Print printer
2) Print
I used to have to do it via a printer with my desktop connected to it.
But recently I bought a new printer that I can print directly from my Chromebook.
Don't ask me how this works!
But I asked in a good shop and they told me what to buy.
It was about £60. It looks like the current model is the M2026W
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/printers-scanners-and-ink/printers/samsung-xpress-m2026w-monochrome-laser-printer-10132966-pdt.html
same price bracket higher specs?
https://www.tesco.com/direct/acer-116-chromebook-11-intel-celeron-2gb-ram-16gb-emmc-storage-white/357-6595.prd
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/refurbished-acer-chromebook-cb3-431-silver-14-inch-fhd-celeron-quad-cor-a1-nx.gc2ek.007/version.asp
Not a Chromebook, but nice spec for the money, ships from Spain so Def no customs.
or are you talking about the other models mentioned in the comments?
p.s just reread original post, apologies a bit more long winded than intended