Borrow £14,000 over 4 years with a cheap loan and you could own it outright for £308pm....

https://money.gocompare.com/loans?gcclickid=f809a150-e05e-4fcc-9a87-8b0b6f3ec2c9#/?amount=14000&timeQty=4&timeUnit=years&propertyValue=250000&debtAgainstProperty=125000&sortingcode=apr&page=1

Upgrading to SE spec with metallic paint, giving you parking sensors front & rear, adaptive cruise, NAV, auto lights, auto wipers, and folding mirrors and costs around + £1600.

Upgrading to the 150BHP adds around +£250

I know I'm going to get flamed, but:
1. Great deal OP.
2. I don't get why people would buy, personally, a dull looking car when they could get something that looks decent...each to their own and fair enough...but normal rrp:


Or

Yep i'd agree with that!
Just look at the list of reported issues here with the previous model - all the faults noted are simply a record of actual complaints from real owners.
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/volkswagen/passat-b6-2005/?section=good

Far less reported for the Mazda, though still some diesel issues with older Mazda's, but not on the scale typical of VW group stuff.
I thought it was universal knowledge now VW group stuff is just not as reliable as their advertising makes out, though there is definitely much effort gone into making them highly presentable with a good PERCEPTION of quality which matters a lot - don't get me wrong. But more reliable!?!!

Petrol Passats?

They'll be looking diesels, surely?

Taxi companies will be buying these for their rent me for Uber fleets. Good saving. Great for someone who does high mileage and cant lease at a decent price.

That was just before the "fix". The one in my old Mondeo lasted 9 years and I was able to change it myself in 10 minutes as it was at the front-top of the engine. Seems he wasn't alone: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4849816

Which was referencing VW diesel reliability and emissions

This is the petrol variant so a moot point to be discussing.

I know, dear. Merely replying to what someone else said.

This deal is for the petrol variant.

Polo III was another poor car!


But you are supposing EGR valves last forever. They don't especially when they are doing more work since the "fix".

Compared to what?

Say it was a 2.0i petrol variant, then its using all of that 2.0i capacity all of the time, with fueling to match.

With a 1.4 Turbo, you're only using the turbo when accelerating. When you're at a constant speed, you're just using a little 1.4 engine.

Therefore you're getting better economy, with a smaller sized engine. Emissions are lower too

Yup.

Theres no 4 year old petrol passats to compare it to, but assuming its worth similar money to the equivalent Skoda Superb, you're probably looking at £6K ish trade price with a retail price of £8K.

So for your £308 a month loan x48 + £1911 deposit = £16,695 including interest. Returning £6K after 4 years, means its costing you £222 a month. Probably still cheaper than leasing one (or probably 2 x 2 year deals) and you've the option to drive on at it after you've it paid off.

You pays your money and you makes your choice....

"VW must be more reliable 'cause it said so in an 80s advert". The last reliable VW I had was a P reg Polo. That all stopped with the MkIV Golf which was the most unreliable car I have ever had, not just wear and tear but many cost-cutting design faults. VWs are way overpriced these days but people still buy because of that 80s advert, a triumph of marketing over the facts. Each to their own I suppose and I'd like to say they are more reliable now but a colleague's Golf EGR valve only just made it out of warranty before failing, so maybe not! Then there's the emissions - (cough!).

For someone who does not know one engine from another can some one please explain the merit of the high revving small capacity engines over the slow revving high capacity ones. It seems to me to get the same power output the smaller engine has to do more work and therefore consume more fuel and so there is no real advantage over the large engine

Factor depreciation in to your figures and you will get a clearer picture whether it's worth owning or leasing.

In your opinion.

Its been covered off now.

You'll have to find some other argument to have elsewhere.

And rightly so. There is very little to be positive about a B6 Passat.

Ezzer brought it up in the negative context. I countered. Others also brought it up.

But that is more relevant. Stating that his Bora is bullet-proof when history/warranty claims/reality prove otherwise is largely irrelevant, is it not? I think ezzer and yourself mentioned the B6..

Neither was historic reports of unreliability of the B6 Passat (two generations / over 10 years ago now), but it didnt stop some people quoting it.

A 13-year old Bora is relevant to this deal. No - it isn't...

Because it's by the same manufacturer and people were talking about reliability, hence I wanted to give my opinion based on my experience of owning a VW.

I'll have half a dozen then

And likewise its simple fact that the Honda Accord was priced above its peers and was average dynamically, hence it didnt sell

Borne out by

(a) my own experience
(b) independent reviews like honest john
(c) common sense.

Yes, the UK has a bit of an obsession with German cars, but if you're the right product dynamically and / or the right price they will sell - the XF and now XE jag springs to mind, as does the Tesla Model S, Lexus IS and the new Volvos. At the lower end you've now the Hyundai i40 and KIA Optima, along with Skoda.

Even Vauxhall and Ford still sell large saloons and as they are excellent dynamically and well priced, they sell.

Mazda have hung on in there with the excellent Mazda6 too. As have Toyota with the Avensis.

The entry level Accord in 2015 was priced at £24,500. Heres an entry level Passat for £15,911. Paying another £8,500 for what people consider to be a brand on a similar par is a tough ask.

Interestingly Honda outside of the UK DONT price their car in this way, and it sells well.

Honda tried to sell a dynamically average product at a premium price in the UK. It didnt work.

Didn't say there was a conspiracy, just highlighted the obvious fact the Auto express & Autocars biggest advertisers get better reviews. This is not conspiracy, it's simple fact.

Yup. Absolutely. Stuff like this will be very cheap to lease.

Different options suit different people.

Watchdog tonight

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08y7ntl

The team meet people whose vehicles have suddenly lost power in the middle of the road and ask if one car giant's efforts to fix a problem are creating a more worrying concern.

Fine if you want to keep it for 4 years.

Otherwise, if you're selling after 2 years, the residual value would make it more expensive than leasing. Ownership is overrated.

It does look a boring car and reliability is "average". But, if you can actually get it for the £15,911 brand new...upgraded to the SE for £1600 = £17,511 then it is a good enough deal!

There have been problems with piston rings and timing chains in four cylinder 1.2 TSI.

The 1.8 TSI did drink oil

Old 1.2 TSIs and 1.4 TSIs were chain cam and 122PS twincharger engines were not as reliable. Current 1.4 TSIs (such as the ones in this Passat) are belt cam and have suffered no issues (thus far).

What has it got to do with this Passat deal?

that vag 1.4 engine is a dog. riddled with problems such as piston slap and drinking oil from fairly low mileage.

opt for a larger engine imo

Still worth listening to the report as it looks like "petrol gate" may be on the cards and 've may not be so honerable.

It was an Arnold Clark fleet car so I guess it was leased to an organisation, maybe more than one or it was just used by Arnold Clark themselves. I'm not sure how business leases work these days, but Arnold Clark clearly owned this car from new before I bought it; so six years. It has service history from them ranging from 21/06/2005 through to 23/06/2010 showing 20k, 30k, 50k, 65k and 80k services plus smaller things like tyres, blades, bulbs, brakes and cambelt being done. I bought it in October 2010. There are no gaps in the service history.

Under warranty repaired by VW it has had the EPC & ESP wiring checked as there were faults there, and the external temp sensor wiring was checked. There is warranty paperwork for those three faults which in the grand scheme of what could go wrong I would say is pretty minor.

I also had the wings replaced last year by VW under their 12 year anti-corrosion guarantee.

If you don't want to believe me that I haven't spent a fortune on this car, then I guess that's your choice. I do wonder what I have to gain from this by lying though?

I don't want to appear argumentative, but cars are not leased for 6 years, so there is missing history based on that info. Also, the service history probably wouldn't include warranty repairs, as these are paid for VW, rather than the owner/hirer.

There is no way it has done 220,000m without fortunes being spent on it - this is not testament to a great car, I could cover 220,000 miles in a Ford Orion if I replaced enough components.

Ah ha!

See! Worst car ever!

No, I'm not. I'm merely explaining to others my experience.

Oh, and I did have a window regulator go on me once. £10 for one off a Leon from a scrappy, been fine ever since.

I know the history of the car in its entirety. I bought it as an ex Arnold Clarke lease car so it came with a full print out of every single item of servicing it had had done, right down to the replacement washer blades. It was on 84K when I got it and no major components had failed.

I'm not about to scan in the entire history of receipts, but yes of course I've spent money on it over the 7 years and 140k miles I've put on it. Why would I lie? Trust me, I don't have a lot of street credit driving around a car that looks like n taxi which is older than most of my mates kids. I'd love to replace it, but the reality is, it owes me nothing and doesn't seem to want to die. I bought a Bora based off my mates experience of one - his went to over 250k before he sold it and it was still going.

I know my experience of one car of a particular brand is relative, but I've had Peugeot, Ford, Vauxhall and rover in the past - all fell apart at a much younger age and lower mileage.

All I do is service it every 10k miles which costs about £50/£60 depending on oil prices. I do oil filter + oil, fuel filter, pollen filter. air filter. Plus I have cleaned out the inlet manifold once.

You said in an earlier post that it's a 2004, so it must have been around 6 years old when you got it?

You mention that it had a clutch and DMF at 191k - fair enough, a clutch is a wear and tear item (though on some brands of car, a DMF isn't...).

What else have you spent on it to keep it going? Thousands maybe? (I don't expect a truthful reply to that question, so please don't bother)

How do you know it hadn't had another DMF, engine, turbo, oil cooler, mass air flow sensor, window regulators etc etc in it's first 6 years??

Although it has done over 220k now, if it is the automotive equivalent of 'Trigger's broom', that isn't entirely impressive.

The Mk4 Golf is truly one of the worst cars ever, it's a known fact.

I didnt say it equated to a better ride? Did one not read my post?

It will probably improve cornering a little but almost neglegable. Likewise ride comfort might change slightly but almost neglegable too. Mines on 17s and in no way would i describe the ride as "firm". Its nice and comfy :smiley:

Its an aesthetic thing predominantly. As i've said i didnt go for the SE Business spec for the bigger wheels, i went for all the extra spec. I do prefer the look of the slightly bigger wheels though

+1

If a car is going well and you're otherwise happy with it, then stick with it.

But does not always equate to a better ride. Does one buy a Passat to be comfortable or to race?

So you are basing that reliable example and extrapolating it to the whole of the Bora range? It's more to do with luck. It has been a car riddled with problems.

Keep the Civic!

Asthetically (and subjectively to a lot of people) they look better under the bigger wheel arches of modern cars. A little less body roll too.

The extra spec with the SE was the deal breaker for me though.

It's called planned obsolescence.

Surely you must have snuck in a few oil changes between those services???

last passat i had i bought at 86k and sold at 260k still running i serviced it TWICE in all that time - these cars are bulletproof!!!

Well I guess that's two people who are lying then because mine hasn't let me down in the last 7 years either. It got through its last mot in June without a single advisory at over 220k miles.

Honest John review - a fairly average 3 stars...

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/honda/accord-2008/

Scuppered by being priced at the top of the market, but being dynamically average in a market with some excellent cars.

THATS why it didnt sell here, not because of some big conspiracy against it.

It sells in other markets because its priced accordingly against its peers.

Its a little bit fiddly to get to :-

On the front screen under Request a Quote (in the big orange circle), select Volkswagen and Passat Saloon

On the next screen scroll DOWN to see the model options and click the model you're interested in

Select any options you want, scroll DOWN to the bottom and click "Get Discounted Price"

Plug in your name and email addy, and click submit. The next screen has the price on it.

HTH

Well as i said its a fairly typical view, buddy. UK magazine or otherwise.

I always liked the styling of them but they were average to drive and overpriced. Honda is on a par with Nissan, Toyota, Mazda, VW and Volvo. When it gets the product right and prices it alongside its peers it sells cars. The Accord isnt that great a package dynamically, and was priced as if it were a premium product. Hence it didnt sell.

No massive conspiracy happening - its just how it was.

Sorry if that upsets the Honda fanboys.

Is this expired? I can't find it at this price? Can anyone help please?

Got a Passat SE business and had it 2 years....turned 90k and apart from the service days (planned maintenance) never been in the garage.only downside is they are prone to rusting discs and warping . Lots of bells and whistles and a pal has the mondeo with half the miles (Aston Martin front) with far more issues such as trim falling off, oil filter working loose etc .
Had a 320d before and it wasn't a patch on the Passat.comfy car that handles well and 60 mpg .

Yep, it's just a big advertising rag for VAG.

Unfortunately buddy, Autoexpress and What Car? are famously biased (paid even?) towards German cars. Basically they print what sells magazines, and in the UK, everyone is German car daft.

tempted but my 10 years old Civic is still going strong

Were talking about the new varient and comparing a newer iPhone to an older one, there is differances. Similarly with the issues and comparing with Mazda is not a true repersentation. You have more VW then Mazda of a similar age as the B6 you are comparing. The argument is non exiting. Going back on topic, its a great deal for those looking

in all honestly everything lasted longer 9 years ago... these days 2-3 years and bin.... Best example check second hand cars with decent mileage after 2 years, interior just peels off on VW's, also I would rather pay extra and get more powered engine it's a Passat not Polo!

Not sure if the engines are the same.. But I've had a 1.4 tsi in an octavia. Just clocked up 108k miles and in 5 and a half years it hasn't ever let me down. Actually quite tempted by this..

As nice as it was to look at, the last in line Accord wasnt all that.

Average dynamically in a class with some exceptionally good cars. Couple that with the optimistic asking price and it just didnt sell.

This would be a fairly typical review...

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/Honda/Accord

No kidding. Why do you think they desperately try to block Tesla's direct sales in the States?

But, but, where's the "you can buy a 10 year old 200,000 mile BMW MSport/Audi RS/Benz AMG for less"???

I had 2, a low spec and a top spec. Both made it easily past 130k before being replaced at 3 years without so much as a loose gearbox. Now I have the new Superb, 40k in and that's just the same.

Nice anecdote, based on the decent 1.9tdi PD engine, but bears no relation to the reality of VAG products introduced from 2006-2007 onwards. As of today, the VW Golf mark 5 and 6 are the two most complained about vehicles on the Honest John website. Mk1 Tiguan, Eos and Touran give them a good run for their money.

Anyone who isnt a millionaire should purchase a car, used or new, PCP, loan or cash, via the Three R's.

Reliability - obviously
Ride quality - because the roads are no longer maintained to a satisfactory standard in the UK
Resale value - the true cost of a car - mpg and tax are just sundries next to depreciation.

Anyone who buys a car for 'soft touch' dashboards or a meaty 'thunk' of the door closing needs to recalibrate on what matters when buying a car.

I've bought Japanese and petrol every time for the last 15 years, and only ever moved them on for changes in family requirements, because they just do not break down. Actually, the glovebox lock broke in the current, brilliant Honda FR-V. Appalling.

Your neighbour is lying. A Bora is basically a Mk4 Golf, which is one of the most troublesome cars in recent history.

They thought right - the quality of a Honda Accord is not in doubt. The problem is, the badge doesn't work here in the UK where all the 'experts' can't see past the German brands.

UK buyers in general have it all wrong, they will all learn eventually though, usually the hard way.

Yes, probably very true....

Reliability wise, VW -> Merc = frying pan -> fire

There are reliable cars out there, but they generally aren't of German origin.

The Lexus line up offers lots of hybrids with less challenging looks

Going up an inch, theres no difference in ride quality as they're not terribly low profile in the first place. The S runs on 215/60R16, our SE runs on 215/55R17 so you're only losing 10mm of sidewall height out of 129mm. A cursory check on price difference is about £1 a tyre on a Michelin.

I think the 17s look better on it aesthetically, but thats a subjective viewpoint.

But i take your point RE tyres, our A45 AMG runs on 235/35R19s @ approx £250 a corner....

Bigger wheels are not necessarily better, i.e. bigger = lower profile tyre wall hence a harder ride.
Replacement tyres cost more too.

The old Bora has a legendary engine and drivetrain. My neighbour has a silver one with 210K miles and he tells me all he has done on it is routine maintenance. He is a stickler for an engine oil change at every 5K though.

And what a fantastic price for this car. According to Autotrader, a pristine 3-4 year old Passat (13 or 14 reg) saloon with under 50K miles sells at around £8-8.5K. If you were to lose 8K in 4 years' time doing average mileage, that's 2K a year in depreciation. No lease deal for a saloon of this spec will ever come close to that.

Heated.

Yes (ish). The DSG variant. You can select it from the drive the deal site

Yes you get 17 inch alloys with the SE.

It's not the size of the engine that's significant these days, it's the bhp.

Ford do a mondeo with a 1.0 litre engine...

Does upgrading to SE get you better (bigger) wheels?

Very surprised that they do a Passat with an engine size of 1.4.

is there an auto gearbox variant?

Yup - ugly things. I don't mind the Toyota Auris as an alternative with the same drivetrain.

They havent imported the Accord to the UK for several years, due to poor sales - predominantly due to Honda pitching its pricing at "executive" car levels. They seemed to think it was on the same par as the C Class, 3 series and A4, rather than a Mazda6 / Passat alternative.

Passat is less reliable than the Mazda but costs less on average when it goes wrong.

Passat
Madza 6

Honda Accord is the most reliable large car which is ironic as mine cost me a fortune!

Yup. You can save £300 and opt for the Skoda Superb variant of this.

As i said, when i looked at year old cars the Skoda variant was more expensive and threw it outside my budget, otherwise i'd have given it serious consideration.

Rather get a Skoda anyday

Even miss out on best manufacturers list

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/driver-power/91289/best-car-manufacturers-2017

Pedantry police you are hereby notified that the correct spelling is "superseded"

Vw don't make top 10

most-reliable-cars-to-buy-in-2017

But rest of the group do ? More emphasis on other brands because people already think vw is good ?

I notice a lot of taxi drivers now running Prius's. Always a good sign when they're in on the act. :smiley:

Unless of course you count its looks. The latest one hurts my eyes!

Joking aside, they're a very good car. I'd really like to run a hybrid / electric car but i just wish so many of them didnt look so weird.

I would say a Prius, from a reliability perspective, is almost perfect. It's probably the most reliable car on the planet.

Yup, as i said earlier, the B6 was stuffed because of the early 2.0TDI engine problems. It never really recovered from it. I'd one of the last of them though - a 2010 Passat 2.0TDI Bluemotion. I really loved that car. Never any issues.

No car is perfect - you only have to look at the amount and extent of recalls by the so called "reliable" japanese brands to see that. Its one of the reasons why buying new at this price is a good deal - 3 years warranty.

We've a Merc AMG also, and i wouldnt want to run it outside of warranty either (they are known to munch gearboxes), so its not like spending stoopid amounts more money buys you any extra reliability.

You pays your money....

The B6 was marred by too many problems for a car people assume will be high quality. That 2.0 TDI had loads of oil pump drive failures and don't even get me started on failed electric parking brakes.

The B7 was better sure but was merely a good thorough facelift rather than an all new car - loads of problems with DSGs.

Current B8 is good but better with a manual than the DSG for reasons mentioned previously. If I were looking for a car of this size, then I would opt for the Superb and if I needed an auto, then a Mazda 6 with the 6-speed torque converter.

Thats the B6 from 2005 Onwards. We'd the B7 after that and this is now the B8.

Probably no more reliable than any other car these days but that doesnt make them a bad car.

You can of course opt for the Skoda Superb variant. It would save you £300 by doing so, if you would prefer to have one of those.

Passats have never been that expensive, relative to Superbs, after discount. Before i bought the year old Passat i have, i looked at year old Superbs, and they were actually more expensive... so much for value brand

You need to look at the power output, not the engine size. This is 125BHP. I run a 120BHP Passat 1.6 TDI and its plenty fine. Likewise you can opt for the 150BHP variant for a little more.

Well its "a" way round paying the 5.9% APR on the PCP loan. You could of course keep it running if you're otherwise needing a loan to buy the car.

Its not that horrendous a rate, given it comes with £4,000 incentive. Also, APR rates are higher on PCP deals just simply because of the way they are calculated.

Yeah two credit agreements is a bit of a pain when your only buying one car.

Agreed.

I went from a 320i (naturally aspirated) to a 1.4TSi (Skoda Octavia). The 1.4TSi is quicker and has so much torque. And it's £30 a year tax instead of £240 for my old 56 plate 320i.

1.4TSi is easily the equivalent of most 2 litre non turbo engines.

Indeed there is.

There is a 1.0 litre 3cyl ecoboost Mondeo available.

Turbo engine, gives 250Nm @ 1500rpm which is more than enough for driving on public roads.

The people requiring a manhood compensator will not be happy with it, but it is the state of modern engines now that small displacement turbos have more power than much larger non turbo engines from just a few years ago.

Are you basing that assumption on yesteryear? The larger Superb has the 1.4 TSI (albeit with 150hp) that pulls 130mph in 4th gear. Ford have 1.5 engines pulling Mondeo estates. Engine technology has moved on.

I have a 10 plate Scirocco. Need a NEW ENGINE after 5.1 years.

I would not recommend VW for reliability. :wink:

(Sigh. I do still love my car though... but bloody hell it's really not reliable. Needed £700 of work only last month, too!)

I fully agree. It's been perceived quality ever since the mkII Golf and whilst they may offer class-leasing ergonomics and drive, from an ownership perspective, they are really quite poor.

Not a fan of VW Group, poor reliability etc. But this is still a great deal and addresses the VW overpriced Skoda problem nicely.

Granted this is a good price for a large car BUT it is for a 1.4l engine which I would think would be seriously underpowered for something this big. By all means someone tell me otherwise but everyone waxing lyrical about the Passat on here currently has a bigger engine - no one (that I could see) has this size engine and said it is good enough for the job.

its a good fleet car or taxi they are everywhere good cars but nothing special....

Yep i'd agree with that!
Just look at the list of reported issues here with the previous model - all the faults noted are simply a record of actual complaints from real owners.
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/volkswagen/passat-b6-2005/?section=good

Far less reported for the Mazda, though still some diesel issues with older Mazda's, but not on the scale typical of VW group stuff.
I thought it was universal knowledge now VW group stuff is just not as reliable as their advertising makes out, though there is definitely much effort gone into making them highly presentable with a good PERCEPTION of quality which matters a lot - don't get me wrong. But more reliable!?!!

Its a little bit fiddly to get to :-

On the front screen under Request a Quote (in the big orange circle), select Volkswagen and Passat Saloon

On the next screen scroll DOWN to see the model options and click the model you're interested in

Select any options you want, scroll DOWN to the bottom and click "Get Discounted Price"

Plug in your name and email addy, and click submit. The next screen has the price on it.

HTH :smiley:

But you would then need to pass a credit check for the car finance and a 14k loan.

Absolutely agree regarding how much better the 7 speed DSG is than the 6 as got an updated model this week and it is so much better....

Actually in terms of how it drives... after 3 days can't report on reliability!!!

So it's almost 900 degrees, anyone managed to get similar to Op's price and can share a screenshot?

The 7-speed twin dry clutch DSG is not reliable. The 6-speed high-torque twin wet clutch DSG is reliable as long as the fluid and filter are changed every 4 years. The new 7-speed high-torque twin wet clutch DSG should be as reliable as the 6-speed and it works much better. The 7-speed high-torque longitudinal twin wet clutch S-tronic (found in in Q5s, etc) has had some problems. This car has the old dry clutch. The Passat will only get it when (or if) the Passat gets the new 1.5 TSI EVO engine.

Jeez!

Lucky you!

No problems at all with my DSG. 2014 passat.

Not read anything about the wet clutch, which cars come with that ? And what is the issue with the dry clutch dsg? Thanks

As someone who drives hire cars regularly and has had both of these, I would go with the VW. Interior is nicer and built in UI looks better. Mazda look good and have a good clutch and MPG but again the drive is different to the VW. Also reliability is another thing. I would take the VW over a Mazda 6

You might get that on a run, but the reality across a full tank and brim to brim is around 55mpg.

Adaptive cruise is great and you get that with SE spec. DSG is best mated to the 2.0TDI, which combined with the SE spec really bumps the price up - it would add over £5,000 to the price compared to this base car.

I think the 2.0TDI SE Business DSG is as you say the "optimum" Passat for a lot of people, but it puts it into a different realm price wise.

When buying mine i made the jump from an S trim level to SE Business spec and that pushed the boundaries of my budget. Adding the 2.0TDI and DSG bumped it out of my budget altogether.

Disagree - this car is vastly better with a manual box than with a DSG especially as this deal is an ownership proposition given that this car still uses the twin dry clutch 7-speed DSG as opposed to the newer twin wet clutch 7-speed DSG that is massively better

I have loads of Passats as hire cars and its one of the few that i would buy but get the DSG auto with adaptive cruise and diesel - i had about 67mpg on it.

Loads of space in the boot - reckon the estate looks a bit better!

FYP2

Sold my 2008 Passat with 180k on the clock last year. Never had any problems or cost more than maintenance. I think the key is that this milage was mostly on motorways and VAG serviced for the first 120k miles. Never buy one with any unknown history.

FYP.

listen to file on 4 on 11th July to hear about VW and the emissions scandal before choosing a VAG vehicle

Yeah, the older Passat was a cracker :wink:

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/volkswagen/passat-b6-2005/

Do they do the cc version?

I know I'm going to get flamed, but:
1. Great deal OP.
2. I don't get why people would buy, personally, a dull looking car when they could get something that looks decent...each to their own and fair enough...but normal rrp:


Or

I owned VW SHARAN it was 2015 without steering wheel controls and that's really annoys me and I finally sold it.
Always buy SE variant
I will never buy a VW again in my life this is what I decided. They have still 10 year old look and charge you for things which even kids toys cars have for free now a days.

Bought two cars from DriveTheDeal approx 12 and 10 years ago - Renault.
All good, genuine Company.

I have an 04 plate Bora (little brother to the Passat / Golf with a boot) which is on 224K. Original clutch and DMF lasted to 191K, still on original turbo. Never had any real issues other wear & tear. So, I would recommend VW for reliability.

And, I've always only ever run it on supermarket fuel!

Really?

Never ending discussion on same level as whether tits or ass is more important.

Seeing how mazdas are rust buckets puts me away in this case as I would like to keep the car over 10 years.

any thoughts if this car will last someone over 10 years and 150k miles?

nevermind I got it now you have to click get discounted price

How do you get it for the price the OP posted? Can't seem to find 4K contribution and price still not near 16k mark. Can OP post the steps please

Good deal if you're into VW's but it does nicely illustrate how big a mark up there is on new car prices........

Went through the prices and the cheapest seems to still cost over 21k, which is after the discount, according to small print:


EXTRA INFORMATION
The quoted prices include:

£3,125 discount on S, Bluemotion, SE and SE Business models
£3,375 discount on GT models
£3,625 discount on R-Line and GTE models
This discount is conditional upon you taking out PCP finance at 5.8% APR Representative arranged by the dealer. If you do not wish to take out this finance, then you will need to add the above amounts to the prices that we quote.

VW are offering PCP finance at 5.8% APR Representative over 18 to 48 months with a 5% minimum deposit. Terms and conditions apply. The dealer that we put you in touch with will arrange the finance if required. Subject to Status. Written quote available on request.

Volkswagen are offering 2 years or 20,000 miles servicing for a reduced price of £149 when you buy your car on Volkswagen PCP Finance.

NOTE: ALL VW MODELS ORDERED VIA US WILL BE SUPPLIED BRAND NEW. YOU WILL BE THE FIRST AND ONLY REGISTERED KEEPER. SOME BROKERS ARE OFFERING PRE-REGISTERED CARS OR CARS REGISTERED TO YOU “CARE OF” AN UNRELATED COMPANY.


Please note that quoted discounted prices on Passat GTE models include a £2,500 Plug-in Car Grant provided by the Government.

Quotes and offers are for cars ordered after 1st July and delivered by 30th September 2017.

Please don't get a fake steer by reading any of sycophantic reviews by VAG loving motoring press. Read Clarkson's review of its brother the Skoda Superb
https://www.driving.co.uk/car-reviews/the-clarkson-review-2016-skoda-superb-estate/

Where is this deal? Link takes me to home page with no sign on special offers?

This has been my favorite car for nearly a decade, can't comment on recent ones but older passats made to last. Beautiful car.

I thought folding mirrors and sensors are standard now and not a chargeable extra. Ahh I forgot, it's a vag car, even dacia gives more nowadays.

might be worth listening to the report on PCPs here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08p4zxq

tempting!

Payments should be around £245 on a pcp deal over 4years with £1780 deposit.

+1

My 2016 Passat is the SE Spec with metallic paint and its a very worthwhile difference.

Upgrading to SE spec with metallic paint, giving you parking sensors front & rear, adaptive cruise, NAV, auto lights, auto wipers, and folding mirrors and costs around + £1600.

Upgrading to the 150BHP adds around +£250