The £39.99 by credit card offer looks cheaper, initially, but it doesn't get you the free Kindle. :sunglasses:

Ordered, with thanks, got the free Kindle version/offer.

A Kindle and some kindling. Heat added.

Wonder what the benefit for them to keep selling this. The magazine is always thrown away while price is not that profitable for them too

Obviously a good deal, however I have to say that I find the Kindle app on my phone absolutely fine...

Offer not visible through TCB! Still a good deal without though.

Karen Gillan is the love of my life, so have some heat

Can you choose to have a white kindle rather than the black version?

Not voted either way, mainly because it is disgraceful that the £59.99 device has forced adware. Even more despicable that Amazon make you pay an extra tenner for a device without it. Obviously in this instance the 'free' device is an adware version.

Proprietary format plus adware, surprised how the Kindle has the eReader market sewn up.

Offer appears to have stopped,no £49.99 option/

The magazine makes its money from advertising. Amazon make money from people buying books & people subscribe to get the kindle. Smart marketing.

Daft opinion? What logical conclusion do you have for that!

The fact people actually are 'praising' Amazon for removing the adverts for them for free to me suggests that there are quite a good number of people that do not want this intrusive business model.

The fact that Amazon are trying to get away with charging for it when others are getting it removed for free is even more absurd.

It does not reduce the cost, my Sony eReader and my wifes Nook Glow Touch were both less than the £59.99 that this is.

If it reduced the cost by revenue for advertising then why did they not go and implement a paid removal service for adverts with the Echo or Fire Stick....I equally would not have bought those if Amazon would have done the same.

Fair point on the convenience aspect, although for me it works the other way around, I have no need to convert digital books borrowed from the library online, but have to convert from AWZ from Amazon Prime.

Err...it is an opinion, I still find it disgraceful they are pumping adware and speaking of which if they will remove ads for free and happily take a tenner from others that do not realise you can, the marketing stinks even more.

I don't need to order one, I already have an eReader that isn't a walled garden. As said not voted either way.

The fact people get done by paying for the privilege at worst or at best get Amazon to remove this from the Kindle would suggest there are a percentage of people that do not want it, one touch on the screen or not.

Simply having it as an option in the settings menu instead of making people who are not in the know pay for it (like the menu option for the Fire Stick) would suffice just nicely.

You think charging £60 for an eReader is some kind of bargain?

That article is interesting that people are still preferring print. One of the reasons for having an eReader personally was to cut down on some book clutter in the house..whilst treasuring some signed hardback books and illustrative books I find an eReader great for generic novels.

I still much prefer e-ink despite the low refresh for books, mainly because I do not need a faster refresh for turning a page at a time with novels, and do find it much less of not only an eye strain but also not having the fatigue with night time reading that LCD displays give...I know it can be lessened with blue light filter software..each to their own though, I like different tools for different jobs...some people are quite happy reading books on their smartphones.

There are children dying of starvation, but some people get het up about adverts on an ereader.

Calm down petal.

I think you need to worry about more things than adverts.

Soooo, If I want the kindle...its not free :neutral_face:

The way the adverts are shown on the Kindle, you don't have to watch them do you? They are on the screen when the Kindle is in standby mode. It's not like you have to watch an advert to get to read the next chapter.

john..wimbledon has finished

Well said. I can't believe that some people are still pulling the old 'there are children starving' line whenever anyone complains about things they want to agree with.

Why are they even wasting their time on such a 'frivolous' site, surely there are more important things to be reading............

It's not disgraceful, just standard corporate marketing behaviour- how many apps are there where you pay to have them removed?

They don't make you pay an extra tenner for anything - you can choose which tier of payment, or not at all. Technically, they knock a tenner off for the subsidised "special offers" device - the ads are that unobtrusive, I forgot I had them undok reading this thread and I couldn't tell you what a single one is for on any of my kindle or Fire devices.

There's certainly far worse behaviour to worry and get all het up about than this first world non-problem!

Does anyone know if it is latest version of kindle that you would receive or the previous one?

It is an opinion as said, counter arguments are what are turning it into a 'first world problem', and others getting 'het up' about my comment.

As said, it is amazing how Amazon have sewn up the eReader market with a proprietary format and adware.

The subscription website also knows the name, address and payment details of someone in their target market.

Advertising inside the mag

Do you get actual mags or is just a digital download to your new device (which would make more sense to me?)

Your right - I haven't eaten for at least 2 hours now.

Yeah I use the kindle app on my phone and tablet occasionally and it's good but I also own two kindles, the standard and the paperwhite and I have to say the kindles themselves are great. I read the paperwhite each night and it only needs charged up monthly, it's great on the eyes and the light emitted from it is very long so I can read and my partner is still practically in the dark.

The standard kindle is good too with the e-ink display being great for the eyes and the battery lasting 3-4 weeks.

I'd also say if u get a kindle all the books sync between devices so you can read on your phone or tablet and pick up from where you left off on your Kindle later and visa versa, that's the best feature for me.

That's fine, not all of us like the Apple of the eReader world.

They don't have the market sewn up (at least in europe, the usa is another matter). You can't even rent library books with a kindle, as Overdrive uses epub in the UK, while it uses mobi/azw3 in the USA, where the kindle is dominant.

Kobo, Onyx or Sony are a better choice over here, and even then, more people use tablets to read on than ereaders.

You racist!!

Try buying one of the other devices other than the Kindle here....Barnes and Noble pulled out of the UK market with the Nook and Sony pulled out of the eReader market altogether. As far as I am aware the only other device left in competition now with the Kindle is Kobo, at least in the supermarket/retail bricks and mortar sectors.

Out of preference I prefer using an eReader for reading paperback books on because of the e-ink, and a tablet for digital magazines/comics.

My trusty old Sony PRS-650 serves me very well, mainly because I have no need for wi-fi, I somehow never find myself stuck for needing to put a book on it when on holiday anywhere, so have no need for an e-commerce store on an eReader device. On the occasions that Amazon have the best price on a book I strip the DRM and convert to ePub.

What a daft opinion. What's wrong with a business model that reduces the price of something and makes up the shortfall with advertising revenue? Plenty of apps do it, as do all newspapers, magazines, TV and radio.
As for kindle being a walled garden, that may be so, but it just comes down to personal preference. For me, amazon's customer service, convenience and variety, plus the ability to borrow thousands of titles included with prime membership make the choice easy.

My s4 mini is too small to comfortably read from but is the right size for a mobile (i.e. not too big to fit in my handbag or my hand for that matter) I have the traditional keyboard kindle and wouldn't swap it for the world. In fact I bought another one recently as my original is getting a bit tired. I don't get ads on it either, lol.
Back to the deal - oh yes, that was what we were talking about wasn't it? (_;) Good find, OP, thank you for sharing. Heat added for a good deal, not one I need or want to take up, but that part is actually irrelevant.

Could you please share how to remove the ads without paying £10? If you can't share publicly then please PM me.
Cheers

Or you can download them for free magazinelib.com/all…17/

Contact amazon, and explain to them it is for your young son or daughter and that you don't want the adds on for them to click. They remove it free of charge.

Sony stopped manufacturing ereaders (although they just released a new pdf reader last month), but it's still possible to pick up new a PRS-T3. It's definitely pretty sad the way the market is, but amazon really haven't got the market sewn up here - although they no doubt will if they are allowed to get their own way.


I've got a number of ereaders, but I prefer to use a tablet for books - refresh rate of eink is far too slow and bothers me, and I've never had any kind of eye strain from reading an LCD panel. I can get ~16hours of reading between charges on a basic android tablet, which isn't much less than I get from eink devices, plus I appreciate the customisation available - to get that level on an eink device I'd have to spend £500+ on an onyx android reader running moon+reader pro.

I wasn't talking about myself though :

The Nielsen survey contained another first: mobile phones and tablets overtook e-readers as the most common device used to read ebooks, with readers favouring multifunctional devices over dedicated e-reader brands such as Kindle and Nook.

Sales of ereaders are falling year on year. Amazon dominate the ebook market in the US, but it isn't anywhere near as clean cut here.


I have no need of stores on my devices either, but I do run an OPDS server hosting all my ebooks, which I'll connect to on the rare occasion I need to copy a book while away from home.

Are you serious?
By that logic anyone in the developed world isn't allowed to complain about anything.

- Excuse me waiter there's a fly in my soup.
- There are people dying of starvation in Africa and you're complaining about a little fly? Be thankful you're getting that extra protein.

- Damn the office AC has stopped working.
- There are people having to do back breaking work in this heat all day long and you're worried about it getting a little warm.

- The car has broken down, it's gonna cost hundreds to fix it.
- There's people around the world who walk for miles just to get water and you can't even cycle a few miles let alone walk. Besides those hundreds of £ could support that family for years.

With further due respect, no walled garden marketing model impresses or benefits me, thankfully Calibre plugins takes care of that in this instance.

As for the confusion on the 'reduced cost' it does not cost any less in manufacture for Amazon to produce ad free versions of their Kindle, that is purely at a software level.

I have and never will never be impressed with the Kindle due to its closed infrastructure, and would have felt exactly the same with the Fire TV if its android skinned architecture would have at rudimentary level prevented the installation of Netflix like the derisible Fire Tablet and Google Play.

But thank you for your insight into Amazon's marketing department, clearly you either work for Amazon or know someone that does, either that or you are clearly surmising.

You still don't seem to understand the concept. Nobody is saying it costs less to produce the model with adverts. It costs the same to make. You don't get charged extra for the model without adverts, you get charged the full retail price.
You can opt to have a £10 discount on the retail price by accepting targeted advertising on the lock screen of the kindle. Amazon then charge for this advertising space to recoup the money they discounted in the first place.
It's like free newspapers, they don't cost nothing to produce but they are able to be given away for free because the revenue from advertising covers the 100% discount given to the reader.

I perfectly understand the concept, does it mean I have to think it is good? If Amazon waiver the £10 fee to have it removed to anyone that complains then the full retail price is nonsense.

Advertisers through Amazon Market Services get charged when their advert is clicked, it is an extra revenue stream for Amazon. In this instance the revenue from advertising cost has nothing to do with discount, Amazon already take a cut from the book publisher in the Kindle Store, they also charge the publisher (and yes I get marketing can actually benefit the publisher) for the click advertising.

The disabling of such I personally feel should not be chargeable, and Amazon will happily take this extra revenue stream from the consumer unless you complain and have it done for free.

Exactly the same for myself, I used to goto car boot sales every sunday and come back with ~20 new books, and constantly raid library sales when they took books out of service along with what I bought new - now it's so much easier to have the same content on a device the size of a hardback.


I fully agree with you different tools for different jobs, it's just that I feel ereaders are a tool that aren't quite ready yet - the incredibly slow refresh annoys me with every page change, combined with the lack of customisation I mentioned earlier and the fact that (at least the mainstream readers) are all tiny paperback size mean I'll stick with 8-9" tablets until eink tech has matured a little. I've been reading from CRT/LCD screens for ~40 years now, so hopefully I won't suddenly suffer from strain or fatigue before that happens. (:: Could never read from a smartphone, though, ereaders are already too small--a phone would be a step too far…

Yeah, really can't stand that cheap short light yo get elsewhere :stuck_out_tongue:

I've not had.a problem with page refresh on a paperwhite, the old keyboard Kindle was a little slow but still faster compared to turning pages one handed.

no mention of a kindle anywhere on the linked page....

Try entering the voucher code.

Linked page shows 26 issues £49.99 BUY NOW. NO MENTION OF KINDLE
DOES PRESSING THIS BUY NOW BUTTON BEFORE INSERTING CODE RPT2917 Commit me to purchasing these issues if free kindle included does not appear

I got this offer previously and 28 days, well 42 days later, the Kindle still hasn't arrived. Coming from a different supplier explains why when I ring up, they take your number to pass onto the warehouse and the warehouse never ring you back.

Thanks for the info, I'll ring them again with my 'Take no doo doo' pants on, ready to kick some!

Just out of interest, did the Kindle package fit through the letterbox or did it arrive in an insanely oversized box?

So, just an oversized box then! X)
Thanks for replying. :smile:

still no kindle for me. will email if it hasnt arrived within next week

Signed up to the offer a month ago and no kindle arrived. I just called them and they said it is now issued and will be with you within 28 days. Poor service, hope it turns up.

Mine finally arrived and I didn't chase them up, I guess they might have been swamped...

Now to figure out how to cancel the RT before I get charged for another load of them.