It may be the 2017 model but those specs are straight out of 2015. Same aging chipset, same dated display panel, virtually the same stagnant design. I enjoy Apple products but £849 for this laptop is ridiculous.

Slight improvement to Apple logo... added outer shadow... looks better in Starbucks :confused:

Still on 5th CPU generation... this is really poor Apple

Heat for the deal as if you want one new it's the best price you're going to get (and with decent warranty). In real terms, though, this laptop is worth around £500 at the most.

The only reason Apple keeps this around is so they can keep it under the £1000 price point and maintain their margins on it. Its specs are mediocre at best (that display is shocking at this price point) and the old CPU is an insult. It staggers me that you can pick up Kaby Lake i5 laptops with IPS displays and 256Gb SSDs with the same aluminium build/ultrabook form factor (Acer Swift 3, Asus Zenbook UX310UA) for £600-700 yet people will still choose this for macOS.

I've been both a Mac and PC user for nearly 25 years but there's a point where the price gouging is just too much.

Still on 5th CPU generation... this is really poor Apple

The macbook air is the ipod shuffle of the macbook lineup.

Deliberately poor works better? :smile:

It may be the 2017 model but those specs are straight out of 2015. Same aging chipset, same dated display panel, virtually the same stagnant design. I enjoy Apple products but £849 for this laptop is ridiculous.

What's better, to go up to the new Macbook's?

It says 2017 but what's new compared to 2015?

Ridiculous price for such specifications..

As a confirmed Apple fanboy of many years standing, even I am appalled that Apple is still flogging this ancient model with its low res screen at an outrageous price. Good deal if you really must have one, but why would you?

Heat for the deal as if you want one new it's the best price you're going to get (and with decent warranty). In real terms, though, this laptop is worth around £500 at the most.

The only reason Apple keeps this around is so they can keep it under the £1000 price point and maintain their margins on it. Its specs are mediocre at best (that display is shocking at this price point) and the old CPU is an insult. It staggers me that you can pick up Kaby Lake i5 laptops with IPS displays and 256Gb SSDs with the same aluminium build/ultrabook form factor (Acer Swift 3, Asus Zenbook UX310UA) for £600-700 yet people will still choose this for macOS.

I've been both a Mac and PC user for nearly 25 years but there's a point where the price gouging is just too much.

It is a shame they don't just produce an Air with a Retina screen, rather than the confusing 'New MacBook' as I find the form factor of the Air pretty much perfect. However, I too couldn't live with the display, so bought a MacBook Pro, although I still find it is nowhere near as nice to use, screen notwithstanding.

Cold. Absolutely horrible spec for the money. Old 5th gen i5 processor, screen that isn't even full HD, and it weights 1.35kg. Literally nothing good about this absolutely atrocious deal. Maybe if it was 500 I'd reconsider, but you'd have to be a right mug to buy this very mediocre laptop for 850. If you're looking in this price range I'd go for a Dell Xps 13 or Microsoft Surface Pro, you'll get a much, much nicer machine for your money. If you want an apple then go save up and go for the Macbook Pro.

This is just the same as previous models, Apple didn't do anything with the Air.

You're right. In fact Apple would surely like people to forget about spec and just think it's Apple, you're paying for the Apple experience. However once you do actually need the CPU power you find their products lacking or at eye watering prices. Yes Windows 10 isn't MacOS and often has a monthly update that breaks things (looking at you May update, you broke the Windows Search and by doing so killed the search facility in Outlook at the same). Windows 10 as a business stable OS is a complete joke, as a general consumer OS well it's 95% there with MacOS so good enough, and therefore certainly good enough to not warrant paying silly money for massively overpriced hardware. The form factor has aged but aged well. You'll certainly not like a £300 HP Pavilion 15 plastic but very popular laptop over the Air, what you will like is almost everything else, the main one is saving money.

I am however interested in what Apple is doing with their file system APFS. Apple are ditching their dinosaur HFS+ file system for APFS, a bold move and one that will bring the first modern consumer file system for what 20-25+ years? So we have a system with a file system designed for the storage of today. Microsoft have attempted different file systems but never rolled them out so we're still stuck with NTFS another dinosaur. Everyone who can upgrade to the next MacOS called High Sierra will get APFS. Notice I say MacOS this is because OSX was rebranded MacOS in late 2016 when MacOS Sierra came out, it's predecessor was called El Capitan.

So regardless of the hardware APFS will make the user experience quicker depending on how they use the OS. File duplication is one of the main strengths of APFS and Encryption. I also like how Apple are utilising encryption and embedding it deeper and deeper in to their systems.

The Acer Swift 3 for around £569 is better

£849 - BLOODY ELL.
And Macbook Air isn't even good for all that video editing, might still be able to handle the photo editing - I know this, I'm a Mac support guy. Apple are seriously ripping people off.

I have never seen so many jealous people gather simply because they desire to own a mac but could never afford to buy one.
Quite shocking lol

Just to add balance to the hate, I had an i5 11" air from 2015 until last year, and it was very quick and very convenient. Granted I didn't do heavy video editing or gaming on it. The only thing that bothered me was the screen resolution really.

No idea why people spend twice as much on these when compared to something far better for Windows. This thing is so dated now, the screen is rather poor too.... I just don't get the appeal. I own an iMac, an iPhone and I have a Macbook as well... but this thing is a waste of money.

I also have an iMac that's higher spec'd than this, but I paid £2569 for it in early 2016.... I agree it could be considered a rip off. I mean I could have built myself a much beefier Windows Desktop for that, probably 1080ti SLI and still had the extra £500 for the 4K Monitor I use that blows my iMac Screen away.

I got it though cause I make an app for my Mum's work that makes it worth it, but if I didn't do that.... I agree with everyone else, they're a rip off.

But the Surface products from Microsoft are also a rip off.

Heat added. Apple's are highly optimized PC's without the typical Windows bloat, so these specs are perfectly acceptable. Also, that Apple logo just personifies "cool" that you will never get with a Windows PC :sunglasses:

A marvellous machine is the mac Beautiful looking & absolutely silent in operation with it's sleek & beautiful design. I find it laughable that those who have never owned or used one slate them without EVER having had any experience of owning one. seeing them rage in threads about apple macs gives me great pleasure as I sit in my penthouse apartment in the City of London.
Such joy to see the minnions squeak on here.

Poor display for the price.

I refuse to upgrade from my 11" air to a macbook. Just a clear money making exercise by them to discontinue the 11" version.

Strange you can afford a "penthouse" apartment in the "City of London" yet you can't spell minions.....

Better off sourcing the last decent Mac Apple made, the early 2015 13" Macbook Pro, for less second hand.

Hot. Going to pick one up as soon as I get back from Hamburg.

My god this is such stupid logic.

I have owned and enjoyed multiple Macs (three laptops, two desktops), and compared to my camera setup and headphone collection, my Macs aren't even notably expensive in the grand scheme of all the techy sh*t that I blow my money on. I sold my most recent MacBook Pro because I decided I wanted to build a computer I could game on, and in a couple of years I will probably want/need a portable computer again and Apple's notebook lines will be right up there at the top of the pile of laptops I consider.

But as much as I enjoy them, that doesn't mean I'm blind to the crappy decisions Apple have made and continue to make with their product lines, and by god I'm going to call them out on it rather than let people buy crappy tech. The MacBook Air is a pile of hot garbage, anyone who genuinely thinks that OS X offsets the ageing spec sheet enough to justify an £849 price tag quite frankly needs their head checking, because it's just not. Owning a Mac does not induct you into some secret club where untold wonders are revealed to you, anyone competent in the modern landscape of the computer industry can tell when the negatives of a product outweigh the positives by just too damn much for the price tag to be justifiable. The idea that people calling this spade a spade are just jealous or unable to afford one is exactly the sort of douchy elitist attitude that makes people hate Mac owners on the internet, and I say that as a long-time Mac owner on the internet.

Of course you have owned many Mac's - Big Mac's

ALERT! Spelling police are even crying they can never afford a mac.

Excellent misuse of apostrophes there!

At risk of dignifying your stupid comment more than it deserves to be with a response, here's the gumtree listing for the mac I most recently sold.
https://www.gumtree.com/p/macs/2015-macbook-pro-13-with-retina-display-29ghz-i5-512gb-ssd-8gb-ram/1241010634

Never really understood why all Apple laptops don't have a Retina display.

Such anger from those who can never afford one is hilarious XD

Did you not see the gumtree listing I gave you, or are you saying that I'm lying?

Specs are quite poor for 2017, but it will be used for browsing and word processing, so it doesn't matter. The problem is that it's not got a retina screen which is important and crazy it wasn't included. Get the MacBook instead.

The Air is a great form, but still no Retina? The screen is by no means bad, but i'd expect higher res for my cash.

Listen Chap.
I have no need to pander to your attempts to climb the success ladder as I have no concern. I do however love to laugh at those desperate to prove themselves on the internet who could never afford a new mac.
Carry on raging & make me laugh a little more.

It's amusing how you're saying I'm the one desperate to prove myself despite you being the one desperate enough for validation to share your own mac's specs as proof... twice. And neither were even prompted by other users, you just decided to share them.

And you think it's me that's desperate?

As long as it's an absolutely silent mac that is all that matters.
At least your not crying like the people who could never afford to buy the silent machine with no noise from fans everything is OK (party)

Indeed I did share the spec of MY mac :smile: & as a direct result of me doing so YOU became enraged & replied XD

I've used my Macbook Air pretty much daily since I bought it in late 2013 and it still works great. Admittedly I only use it for things like internet browsing, messaging, email, word processing, budgeting, etc but it never skips a beat! No faults whatsoever for 3.5 years and I imagine it may well keep me going for quite a bit longer yet!

But I paid this for mine when I bought it. Shouldn't still be paying the same 3.5 years later with nothing but a slight processor/memory bump which doesn't actually make any difference to real world performance for most uses for this laptop (you're never going to be using it as a video editing workhorse or gaming machine).

128gb, cute.

Used to sell loads of these in John Lewis. Why, I don't know. The screen is horrendous - I've seen better on £300 laptops.

Sure, it's light. But I guess the real reason is that it's a mac, and cheaper than the rest. Still, I managed to dissuade a few people getting them and to get the MBPr at least, or if they were happy with Windows still, a few of Asus' offerings, which tremendous displays and Apple-like build quality.

You can always have your cake and eat it: http://blazinglist.com/top-10-best-laptops-hackintosh-2015/
Just shows what a rip off macs are.

Its Apple - people are prepared to pay for computers that have pictures on the front, and they have got the same as their 'friends', who cares if the technology is five years old.

Genuinely bemused at those that use a £849 machine for word processing and web browsing but it's ok it has an Apple logo so it's just great as is....ps it's an overpriced underspecced lemon just like every apple device before it.

Usually bought by those that look like they need a good wash haircut and change of clothes but Apple = wealth wealth = success ....derp

Bonus points if you still live with mum and dad at the age of 35 have a 3 yr lease on the never never 50k audi sat the drive and bemoan the cost of home ownership stop buying over priced tat enjoy a better quality of life

Haha, I have a 27" iMac, Mac Mini and 2x 11" Airs.

It's impossible to actually own a Mac if you disagree with him, apparently.

I have a MacBook air and mine is also 128GB. I upgraded the processor and RAM, but not the SSD. Big mistake! 256GB is a must and when your paying that much for a laptop, it should have it.

As someone who has 3 macbooks and an air, I am utterly dismayed at the prospect of these new macbooks with no upgradibility and on top of it a deficit of input ports. Still only apple can get away with it but sorry, I will not get another iphone till theres a headphone jack in it or a mac computer unless it is upgradeable and with proper ports.

Sure this means I might never get one again but that's just fine. Apple wouldnt miss me and I wouldn't miss apple.

Acer Swift 3 won't hold its value as well and runs Windows but has more spec for £200 less and is very well liked in reviews. If you want an Apple laptop stick with the Macbook Pro