I've never used box.co.uk before but this seems a good price for a 4TB NAS hard drive. IronWolf drives come with a 3 year warranty and work well with Synology diskstations.
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haileris to shannensdaddy
16 Jun 175#15
1. Lose
2. So what do you recommend we buy - floppy disks?
3. I guess you got that from the Ladybird book of Backblaze?
Seriously people need to start coming up with something *original* - please!
GrahamStoneman to feves92
16 Jun 174#3
I wouldn't rule out using these in a desktop - it depends on your use case. A slower spindle tends to mean lower power and quieter. All the IronWolf models are rated to 600,000 load cycles so I'm not sure where your information about not being powered down regularly comes from?
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CyDoNiA
16 Jun 17#1
I was considering 2 of these for my desktop due to them being cheap (incidentally they are same price on Amazon with Prime delivery too) but be aware they are only 5900RPM spindle speed I think. Fine for a NAS but if like me you're thinking of using it in a desktop there's probably better options.
sergiup to CyDoNiA
16 Jun 17#8
£119.98 at Amazon... would've been tempted otherwise!
feves92
16 Jun 171#2
yeah definitely don't use this in a desktop they are not meant to be powered down regularly they are designed to Stay on for long periods
GrahamStoneman to feves92
16 Jun 174#3
I wouldn't rule out using these in a desktop - it depends on your use case. A slower spindle tends to mean lower power and quieter. All the IronWolf models are rated to 600,000 load cycles so I'm not sure where your information about not being powered down regularly comes from?
4Real2016 to feves92
16 Jun 17#21
They might be optimised for nas and heavy work loads but that doesn't mean they can't be powered down like any other drive, these drives have exactly the same power management modes as any drive.
Their high capacity drives are much more reliable, you can check backblaze failure rates.
EvilMatt to feves92
17 Jun 17#29
I don't know where you are getting your information, drives "intended" for desktop use are the lowest quality (Actually it's probably external drives) and will not be as robust as a NAS drive, intended for multi access and more read/write cycles. The fact that they are able to be run 24/7 is a positive, not a negative. I don't know why you would think they are meant to stay on for long periods anyway, it's not like they have to get up to temperature or spin at a constant speed, they will be accessed whenever they are requested, the same way if they were in a NAS.
But I would really only use them as data storage rather than running an OS from one.
Dave_dave69
16 Jun 17#4
May as well get a drive designed for a desktop from the same supplier and slightly cheaper £108.48
The Barracuda range only has a 2 year warranty though.
theratedone
16 Jun 17#5
Can you use this for CCTV and will it be suitable?
xeroc to theratedone
16 Jun 171#6
Yes
I run two of these on my cctv system. 9 cameras 1080p recording 24/7. Never had an issues
Though unsure if it’s the intended use with low spindle speeds?
CyDoNiA
16 Jun 17#9
They were the same price. I guess some people ordered them and they hiked the price as a result.
vernon_bennett
16 Jun 172#10
The only hard drives to ever fail on me have been Seagate.
kick_u_in_the_nuts
16 Jun 171#11
every segate drive that i have had has been very noisy - drive seeks etc
western digitsl never had this problem
donbarney to kick_u_in_the_nuts
17 Jun 17#25
I have had many wd drives fail on me,
CampGareth
16 Jun 17#12
Doesn't beat the magic £25/TB mark... but 3 year warranty might swing it
shannensdaddy
16 Jun 17#13
Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty high on Seagate drives..
haileris to shannensdaddy
16 Jun 175#15
1. Lose
2. So what do you recommend we buy - floppy disks?
3. I guess you got that from the Ladybird book of Backblaze?
Seriously people need to start coming up with something *original* - please!
GrahamStoneman to shannensdaddy
16 Jun 17#19
Anybody losing 4TB of data when a drive fails deserves to lose all their data...
Roph
16 Jun 17#14
I got a drive from box recently, it arrived safely but the packaging left much to be desired. No padding except the base provided by the drive's own plastic case it comes in. If your drive is coming to you over a longer distance it may arrive DOA.
I've never seen ebuyer, aria, scan or amazon package a drive so poorly.
haileris
16 Jun 17#16
I yearn for the day when 5TB Canvio's were £99. Shuck em / RAID them / sorted.
Mpt11
16 Jun 17#17
I've used them, customer 'service' was pretty abysmal in my experience and I wouldn't recommend them
Dave_dave69
16 Jun 17#18
Sorry - I should have clarified that my comment was to those who were thinking of using it as a desktop drive.
GwanGy
16 Jun 17#20
+1 For the name alone
psd99
16 Jun 17#22
wow good price
I'm Looking to setup a NAS to attach to my switch in a RAID 1 configuration
mainly photos, documents and songs/media.
The only hard drives that have ever failed on me are Seagate Barracuda (multiple) and the Hitachi dekstar (or commonly known as deathstar due to the number of failures). Oh and 1 WD Red which was pretty much death on arrival.
EMM386
17 Jun 17#26
Hitachi are normally very well regarded
the Death Star name was when they were made by IBM (i.e a very long time ago)
sunama to EMM386
17 Jun 17#28
Wasn't the deathstar drive about 15 years ago?
That's a blast from the past. Many people on this site were not even born at that time!
randomnut
17 Jun 17#27
Don't buy Seagate unless you're going to store data you don't mind losing. Absolute garbage quality drives. Do yourself a favour and buy WD or HGST instead.
GrahamStoneman
20 Jun 171#30
Just a quick update for anybody still considering this... My drive arrived yesterday, first impressions are good. It's extremely quiet. I can't even hear the difference between it spinning and not spinning, and there's no noise when data is being read or written. The PC uses about 4W more power idling and 6W when the disk is in use.
However the packaging by box.co.uk wasn't great. It was wrapped in an air filled hard drive pouch inside a plastic bag, but half of the air pockets had burst so part of the drive had no protection at all. SeaTools reports no errors so I'm fairly confident with it, but if I were to buy another one I wouldn't choose this company! And they used Hermes, who (in my area at least) are known to throw stuff around.
TravelSteve
24 Jun 17#31
I brought a different hard drive from box.co.uk. Drive arrived in a cardboard box in a DPD bag. No padding what so ever. Beware.
samwhite9999
25 Jun 17#32
I'd never buy a Seagate drive. I've had 3 in the past over recent years and all have failed in under a year. One within 3 days ! None of which I could warranty because they were backup drives for my NAS with confidential data. Fortunatly I didn't loose any data.Very poor quality drives from my experience. I stick to more expensive WD drives now and never had one fail. Wish I had never switched to Seagate. But I should of known, buy cheap, buy twice !
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Top comments
2. So what do you recommend we buy - floppy disks?
3. I guess you got that from the Ladybird book of Backblaze?
Seriously people need to start coming up with something *original* - please!
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Their high capacity drives are much more reliable, you can check backblaze failure rates.
But I would really only use them as data storage rather than running an OS from one.
Seagate BarraCuda 4TB SATA III 3.5" Hard Drive https://www.box.co.uk/products/cat/Components%7eB%7eHard+Drives%7eB%7eDesktop+SATA/refine/48828~51694
I run two of these on my cctv system. 9 cameras 1080p recording 24/7. Never had an issues
Though unsure if it’s the intended use with low spindle speeds?
western digitsl never had this problem
2. So what do you recommend we buy - floppy disks?
3. I guess you got that from the Ladybird book of Backblaze?
Seriously people need to start coming up with something *original* - please!
I've never seen ebuyer, aria, scan or amazon package a drive so poorly.
I'm Looking to setup a NAS to attach to my switch in a RAID 1 configuration
mainly photos, documents and songs/media.
how loud are these?
http://www.ebuyer.com/776379-toshiba-n300-4tb-high-reliability-nas-hard-drive-at-ebuyer-com-hdwq140uzsva how are toshiba drives nowadays?
the Death Star name was when they were made by IBM (i.e a very long time ago)
That's a blast from the past. Many people on this site were not even born at that time!
However the packaging by box.co.uk wasn't great. It was wrapped in an air filled hard drive pouch inside a plastic bag, but half of the air pockets had burst so part of the drive had no protection at all. SeaTools reports no errors so I'm fairly confident with it, but if I were to buy another one I wouldn't choose this company! And they used Hermes, who (in my area at least) are known to throw stuff around.