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Even a lot of the £700 tv screens don't have 10bit panels. Why do people insist on making this comments for low end television screens, it's absurd.

It's a £450 55" TV, nothing at this price has much in the way of HDR hardware. You need to be looking at stuff twice the price if you want that.

If only people understood instead of their misconceptions.

LCD has always been cheap to manufacture. From the early days of CCFL backlighting to the cheaper to produce LED edge lighting or such 'technological' advances as full array localised dimming to try to compensate black levels due to lack of contrast.

Throw in the buzz word "LED TV" to replace what still is "LCD", ramp up the production line with cheap 4K LCD panels, throw in HDR to a confused marketplace, leading to an onset of 10 million 4K sets unable to receive HDR10 content.

Add UHD to streaming options, don't tell the general public that with its streaming bitrate it is that compressed it is marginally better than 1080P Blu Ray disc titles.

Throw into the equation 4K Blu Ray discs....you know, physical media, the shiny discs most people scoff at these days...the only way to get true 4K content on 4K televisions without resorting to piracy (providing you have the bandwidth).

So, with that said, I vote this deal 'hot' its a good price for a 55" budget TV, but for anyone scoffing about Plasma, there is one word I have not mentioned yet 'OLED', the true successor to Plasma.

Personally, I am delighted with my cheap Plasma purchase with 5 years warranty at its production death knoll two years ago. Whilst I await the battle for the 4K format to mature, broadband speeds to meet required standards to stream true 4K content and OLED prices to drop I know that the picture on screen I am currently getting is way more to my liking.

I have a philips sound base , no lip sync problem I use hdmi for the sound base connection

Does anyone recommend a good priced sound bar with this?
There have been reports that some sound bars have lip sync issues with this.

Thank you buddy :smile:

check out https://www.avforums.com/video/philips-49pus6501-best-tv-picture-settings.12947
and/or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qANS2QgxkDo

Hi,

Hoping some kind hearted person will give me advice on the perfect calibration settings for this TV ? Just opened the 55 inch version and excited to get the best picture.

Any help is much appreciated.

Folks there is new firmware for this tv came out the other day

Also if you want a keyboard remote, i got one off Ebay for £14 delivered works straight away and so much easier to use and far better than the remote that comes with the tv

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PHILIPS-for-PUS6501-PUS6521-PUS6561-Original-Remote-Control/272582114363?_trksid=p3693.c100102.m2452&_trkparms=ao=1&asc=20140212121249&meid=180815491ddc4744a6c0afb5afbdc0e0&pid=100102&

Hi can anyone help?

Hi can someone please help me as I don't know much about tv's;

If you had to choose, this tv or this toshiba one; http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/toshiba-55u6663db-55-inch-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-399-99-delivered-costco-with-5-year-2742774

Thanks in advance :smiley:

Is it worth getting extra Argos warranty at this price?

Use photo mode, it delivers vibrant and sharp image. Found the other settings way to dark.

ordered this yesterday luckily found one, the code didnt work but TV10 did!

Has anybody found better picture settings prior to defaults?

Try TV10 as a code. I used it this morning for the 10% off on this TV.

Would be great if the Site wasn't down right now :disappointed:

What relevance does this have to this thread ?

Updated firmware to latest version Netflix now working,

Got mine tonight, won't connect to Netflix just a blank screen, everything else on internet works fine, any ideas

Ps yes you can turn off ambilight, has loads of differentbsettings

Just picked up a 55ks9000 for 1k lovely jubbly

Put it in photo mode setting and the picture looks gorgeous.

Bought mine Sunday. They didn't know the code and it wouldn't work in store. But they honoured it anyway after I showed them the codes through here and voucher cloud etc... Got the TV and the wall bracket for £470ish.. 10% of the TV and half price on the bracket. Can't fault that... Not hooked it up so can't comment on quality etc. But happy enough with the price.

Doubt you will get much cash for it, if any, you could always donate it. I run a cadet unit and we are always looking for new audivisual equipment for running classes and building simulators with. Although plasmas aren't always the most welcome, if it's 1080p that's great, but someone gave use a monster one that I don't think is even 720p and it weighs over 50Kgs which makes getting it mounted nigh on impossible.

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you

YES! Just spoke to Argos and they gave me: TVSAVE

Code expired. Any other codes?

Is the KS9000 49" worth an extra £350 over this?

It needs to be connected to HDMI 1 or 2, not 3 or 4 (just in case it isn't). I only have a PS4 (not pro).

Is HDR automatically enabled out of the box ?

Received mine today and tried hooking up my PS4 pro, but I am only seeing up to 1080p supported? I am doing something wrong?

Got mine yesterday too. Havent hooked my Xbox One to it yet though but your screen has eased my concerns now :smile:

Got mine delivered yesterday through the Argos Fast Track service.
I'm over the moon with the TV, and the price is absolutely phenomenal.

Also got myself their deal for the Xbox One S with Fifa 17 Download and the extra free controller for £199.99 and despite not knowing anything about all the 8-bit and 10-bit stuff I can tell you that the Xbox TV details screen has all the boxes ticked confirming that this TV supports 4K 10-bit for Games, Movies and TV with HDR.

Over the moon!

how is this done? thought Philips blocked out side loading a few years ago, I've got kodi running fine but it would be nice to sideload the catch up apps like all 4 and ITV hub.

Great looking picture and TV, and the Ambilight is awesome! Great TV for the price :wink:

hot

I'm still using my 1080i TV

Sideload Movie HD onto this and you're sorted. A massive repository of movies TV shows new and old steamed in HD

I have a One S, and will most likely upgrade to the One X at some point this year or next. Maybe I'll just bide my time until Black Friday and see if any of the HDR 10bit sets drop down within £100 of my price range. I suppose my main thing will be getting the most out of gaming on it but would be nice to watch 4k blu rays on it as well.

OLED > everything.

Pointless investing in 4K without a 4K player.
New titles will be available in 4K and I'm just gutted we will never get the classics at the quality we're seeing now.

£499, use code TVS10 to get 10% off discount = £449.

could try side loading the app using ES explorer

hisense 55 m7000 is worth the extra money got m8ne for 559 with code at ao

You're welcome, buying a TV right now I think is hard, assess your needs over the next few years. Is picture quality important to you? At which level HD or 4K? Are you going to be investing in a 4K Blu Ray Player or have you a games console/PC that is 4K?

At £500 you are not going to get the current best in picture quality which is OLED, you are also not going to get the best in LCD technology with quantum dot/nano crystal technology to really make the colours pop. But you may or may not be concerned, or have the budget for supreme picture quality.

If you are buying into 4K because you are thinking you are future proofing but have intentions still to majorly have HD feeds and your budget it £500, then perhaps either reconsider and get a deal on a 1080P set, save up more money or buy something like this very TV as a stop gap.

You have missed the market now for new Plasmas, so it is LCD/LED or OLED. If I was in the market currently for a new TV, I certainly know I could not afford an OLED at current prices, and would most likely be budgeting the same amount.

It is an awkward time I think at this price point. Personally I would be hesitant in buying a second hand Plasma, and I would also be hesitant in getting a 4K LCD without 10 Bit HDR and quantum/nano technology.and sooner hunt out a reduction in a higher market 1080P panel like a Samsung Series 7, although finding standard HD TVs new these days is getting harder.

I am glad I got my 50" Plasma when I did, more so two years down the line, I would not like to be faced with the predicament with what is currently available and at what cost and will gladly let it play out over the next 3-4 years, see how far they can push LCD with these enhancements and reduced costs or hope that there gets a sizeable reduction in price of OLED, the true successor of Plasma.

Read the very first line of the deal.

Argos price is £499, use code TVS10 to get 10% off discount = £449.

brought the 49" what an incredible tv. . the 55" wouldn't fit on my tv stand

Very informative post, thanks. Why does buying a TV have to be so hard.. what is the best ~50inch 4k tv currently available for ~£500?

My Xbox One S and Sky Q both pick up on 10Bit. I know someone who had this TV and it said 8Bit, he took it back and Argos replaced it and the new panel said 10Bit. Maybe there is a difference in the manufacturing of this panel over time but in your case would seem a software issue.

£499 when you follow the link. :disappointed:

Should i buy this or the Hisense H55M3300W?? Both priced pretty much the same, any help much appreciated :smile:

It's an 8 bit panel:
http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/2f4b443

It appears it does not have a dual sat tuner and no picture-in-picture. So if this is a feature you would expect check twice.

I've got the 43" model and its not 10bit. Before the TV was updated it did say 10bit on my Xbox One S. But now it says its 8bit?

I would keep the plasma, probably 100 times better than this.

Haha true...my previous plasma was around 370W...my new OLED is just around a third of that!
But there are areas where Plasma > OLED but majority of it is OLED > Plasma.
Moral of the story - if you're leaving plasma...don't get LCD but OLED.

4k TV is still in its infancy and barely worth it for the majority of people. I bought a Samsung KS7000 10bit HDR TV (this is an £800+ TV depending on size) and have practically found nothing that makes use of the tech it has. Games consoles are somewhere between 1080p and 4K, most of the time just doing some sort of 1080p upscaling, Blu-ray's are 1080p, 4K streaming is marginally better than 1080p and not full 4K, I don't have Sky Q or anything, Chromecast ultra is just streaming again...short or actually having a £400 4K Blu-ray player (or Xbox One S to play them) there's practically no content available for these TV's.

It's not a failure like 3D was, but we're just not at the point where 4K is actually worth it yet for the significant majority of people. The ones who are saying how good 4K stuff is on their TV are probably not even seeing full 4K and rather just upscaled full HD.

I still needs like another 5 years odd.

Incidentally also the electricity cost to keep them running for a month

Your plasma has a better picture than any HD TV. They only stopped making them because the cost of repairs were huge. New 50in plasmas in today's market would be north of £2k.

Plasma > LCD

still the same price once voucher code is applied?

I have the 32" version you can only download certain apps, you definitely can't get ITV hub.
Great TV all the same, I just use a smart box anyway (NOW TV) for all the catch up channels like ITV Hub

If only people understood instead of their misconceptions.

LCD has always been cheap to manufacture. From the early days of CCFL backlighting to the cheaper to produce LED edge lighting or such 'technological' advances as full array localised dimming to try to compensate black levels due to lack of contrast.

Throw in the buzz word "LED TV" to replace what still is "LCD", ramp up the production line with cheap 4K LCD panels, throw in HDR to a confused marketplace, leading to an onset of 10 million 4K sets unable to receive HDR10 content.

Add UHD to streaming options, don't tell the general public that with its streaming bitrate it is that compressed it is marginally better than 1080P Blu Ray disc titles.

Throw into the equation 4K Blu Ray discs....you know, physical media, the shiny discs most people scoff at these days...the only way to get true 4K content on 4K televisions without resorting to piracy (providing you have the bandwidth).

So, with that said, I vote this deal 'hot' its a good price for a 55" budget TV, but for anyone scoffing about Plasma, there is one word I have not mentioned yet 'OLED', the true successor to Plasma.

Personally, I am delighted with my cheap Plasma purchase with 5 years warranty at its production death knoll two years ago. Whilst I await the battle for the 4K format to mature, broadband speeds to meet required standards to stream true 4K content and OLED prices to drop I know that the picture on screen I am currently getting is way more to my liking.

Gone up slightly in price I think

You would be downgrading doing this especially the picture quality on standard tv

Why do you want to upgrade to this? I also got a 50" plasma and the quality is great. Most content is 1080 anyway

I've got the 49 inch of this ... It's brilliant. 4K Netflix works flawlessly. I never had any wi-fi drop out from this tv. The ambient lighting at the back is fantastic, making watching films really immersive.

Genuine question, can those people that want a 10 bit panel tell the difference between a 10 bit panel and an 8 bit panel with dithering/+2 bits and decent software, or is it a case of just wanting it to be 10 bit so you can say it's 10 bit?
I'm only asking as I can't tell the difference, the ones I've seen of both types all have clean, clear colours with no halo/banding effect.

good tv, but we gave up on it when we had 3 replacements and all had really bad bleed and flashlighting. Bought a hisense instead and its got none noticeable. If you get a good panel, though, its a great tv with a nice picture and feature set for very little

Why spend this much on an inferior product. Better off waiting it out a bit longer

TV threads on this forum always end up the same. :disappointed:

Well don't buy it then if u don't want it. End of the day it's 10Bit that's automatically picked up by Sky Q, not the lower 8Bit which I must add is an option. If you don't want it, fine but come on mate it's penny's for this

HDR10? 10bit panel? Wide colour gamut?

anyone know a good place to flog an old 50" plasma 1080p 8 years old

to sell their products

Why do manufacturers insist their TV is HDR when it can't display it? It's absurd.

Terrible TV, don't bother. Keeps lagging, crashing and the HDR is basically non existent. It has lights which illuminate but that's about the only cool thing.

lol 10 bit panel at this price, various sources on the web confirm 8 bit panel, even a few higher models in the Philips range arent even 10 bit ffs.

http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/2f4b443

is there no way to get itv player on this?

It has HDR, and it IS 10 Bit! I got this to replace two grand old Sony TV and this smashes it. HDR on Xbox One and 10 Bit running on my Sky Q coupled with Ambi it's a no brainier. No lag, no bleed, no issues full stop. Apps run quick, built in chromecast etc. Worth ALOT more than this cheap price

bought this tv for 559 couple days ago and got delivered today picture is amazing for the price and quality of the tv overall is top notch of you can afford an extra 100 quid http://ao.com/product/h55m7000-hisense-tv-silver-41264-108.aspx

I brought this TV a week ago at the same price. My only criticism is that the TV does exhibit noticeable screen clouding/bleeding. I found this true on two sets (I returned the first). Nevertheless, a good set for the money.

Is this the best TV at this price range, might get this for the lounge to replace my 3 year old Samsung 1080p display.

yes. sold my old tv there within a week without any problems :smiley:

A friend bought one of these recently, went to look at it as I was after the smaller model for the bedroom. it's a good tv for the money, PS4 and Xbone look great, also can install kodi and other android apps picture is clear, brightness is a little weak, but what do you want for the price!

Not a Samsung SUHD, but you can get nearly 3 of these for the same cost! Bargain price for size, 4k and ambilight... heat added!

Thanx for the top tip I was more wondering if anywhere like cex take them. I have checked cex already and they don't take stuff that big

not bad for this price !

https://ibb.co/dfSUf5

Argos warranty. Shop elsewhere.

review is very good for this TV considering price point