Or if you've got prime, schedule the delivery for next week. That'll lock in the current price and give you enough time to cancel the order before dispatch if the price changes after annoucement of the new models.

She works at Carphonewarehouse and the deal is on Amazon. She is not paid to tell customers that they are better off buying from Amazon!

If this phone was £179.99 she would say it was a good price because......... she works there, she paid to say that.
If this phone was £174.99 she would say it was a good price because......... she works there, she paid to say that.
If this phone was £169.99 she would say it was a good price because......... she works there, she paid to say that.
If this phone was £164.99 she would say it was a good price because......... she works there, she paid to say that.
So yeah..... it's obvious because she works there.

Massive issue on this phone is the lack of compass. Being such a cultured gentleman, I like to follow Google Maps around on holiday and it's nigh on impossible without a proper compass in the phone.

@james stam. Then maybe, just maybe, what you need......is......a compass.

Not a phone :smiley:

I think you will find that most phones do have a notification LED. It just depends on how much you want to spend and what your expectations are? PM me if you want to chat.

That said, the price still seems to be the same today

Amazon live chat bod informs me this discount ends on Tuesday 4 July. He also informed me the phone would be featured in Prime Day deals but would not comment on the discount. Make your choice

2 gb ram for £119, worth £40/50 more for the extra ram ?

I think the best thing about this deal is it has stock android and has dual SIM.

though I heard g⁴ is yet to get android 7. so seems like you don't have full advantage

I have heard good and bad things about Xiaomi, great if they work but if there are problems they don't care.

My Moto 4G G4 is feeling its age - are there no other phones with notification lights?

Exactly. I couldn't live without the notification LED.

Shouldn't be true.......but totally is.

Xiaomi Mi5 that I purchased recently does. Let's you choose seperate led colour for calls and notifications which is pretty swish!

Don't believe so, unlike the G4+ dual simmer which definitely does.

Apparently this dual SIM is only 2G on the second (non data) sim unlike the fabulous G4+ dual sim which does 3G voice on sim2 while 3/4G voice/data on sim 1.

not having 3g on the second sim means it's not gonna work on a Three sim or those mnvo's that use Three's network.

Do any of the other phones mentioned have a notification LED? I find it incredibly useful at work to see if I have a missed call or a notification.

I believe they also cut out the gyroscope, which the G2 had. I get that this is a middle class phone, and the RAM is really good, but some of the features are a bit too budget for me.

a stupid simple sheep

OH has one of these and the biggest issue is the lack of a notification LED.

I replaced the screen + digitizer on my original Moto G twice, DIY £25 a time, it's not difficult at all.

Been very disappointed how rare that seems to be for most phones, I'd absolutely consider replacement a factor in buying now I've done it. Honor 6X seems to have spares around for about £30.

See my earlier post with a link to the Redmi Note 4 Global edition which is 5.5 inches. Amazing phone!

Comparison here but be aware this is the superior Moto G5 plus the Xiaomi is being put up against and still easily holding its own

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-4%3Famp

I've never once got import charges. Just use free standard delivery and you will be fine.

I have the Moto G5 and can confirm that it works with Google Cardboard without problems. You actually need a gyroscope equipped phone for that which this has. A compass isn't, strictly speaking, needed for VR apps.

When I first heard "stay hungry, stay foolish" I thought Mr Jobs was mocking such people :/ :O

Yep, it seems like companies today have lost their way! :wink:

And no Photospheres (brilliant for holiday snaps, show off a view far better than a normal photo) and no cheap and cheerful VR (if that's your bag).

My HTC Hero had a compass 8 years ago, how phones come without them today baffles me.

Same here

Why have dual sim when you can buy 2 iphones? £1200, 2 pockets, 2 chargers etc. What's not to like?

Exactly, 3 x the price, but not 3 x better.

Funny, just had to change my other half's Xiaomi for a Moto G4 plus as the digitiser failed after 12 months on the Redmi Note.

Both good phones, but I know which one's easier to make a warranty claim on...

Which dual SIM iPhone do you recommend?

What Xiaomi is the best to buy then?
I quite like the 5.5" screen size of phone.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/motorola-moto-e4-plus-for-149-99-from-amazon-5000mah-battery-5-5-inch-720p-display-2718058?p=31212302

That seems like the better deal if you are after battery life. Almost the same phone except 5000mah battery and 720p screen instead of 1080p. No idea why it's cold.

Duel, you say?
http://fencing-future.com/engine/doc_images/duel.JPG

sorry I could not resist
back on topic, Xiaomi ftw

Good price for this but only got a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 last week which is great for the price. I'll stick with that!

For how many times the price of the Moto? :-)

Doesn't everybody get import charges?

I have had this phone for a few months now, good size screen, battery last two days for moderate use, 3GB ram helps for running multiple applications, I am happy with the camera. Would recommend for someone who is after a sub £200 phone.

I have this phone, initially I liked it a lot but it's about as durable as a block of cheese. By all means buy it but unless you are extremely careful with it you'll need insurance.

If you do damage it Motorola repair centre are horrendous, they refuse to give you a repair cost until you send your phone to them. They charge a £19.50 release fee to send your phone back if you decide not to pay whatever price they concoct. It's sketchy at best.

Defo not a phone for teenagers, parents with kids who play with their phones or anyone prone to butter fingers.

I have the older version and love it but I did read somewhere that this was not much of an update from the last but the camera is excellent and one of the best tested (Only Google Pixel was better)

Not sure why anyone pays £££££ for phones when you can buy stuff like this

They refunded a price change for me yesterday, the re-issue of Purple Rain if you're interested...

No notification LED? WTF? Talk about a dealbreaker.

I'd guess that the performance is not much of a step down due to almost stock Android vs Bloatwiz. Both phones have 3GB RAM. What will perform much better is the battery life as the S6 had a crap battery from day 1.

Had this phone for a few months and I'm happy with it for the price other than 2 niggles, it has no compass so apps like stargazing ones can't scroll themselves and I'd guess it's no good for Google cardboard etc. The screen scratches very easily, get something like this Hard screen protector before you order it and fit it straight away.

No compass is a deal breaker for me. Can't understand why a company would leave this out. An essential feature when using the phone for navigation such as walking around a city.

In low light it struggles a bit, but download camera zoom app and it sorts that.

I have had this phone for a few days, so far so good. Lots of good features, a few lost such as no compass and notification light. but the Moto quick start features make up for it. Battery is okay for a smart phone. Don't go for the 2gb RAM, 3gb RAM is worth it for smoother running.

The best Xiaomi at a great price is the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Global edition. Lots of deals on this site but goes for around £115 -£120.

Build quality is on par with anything from Samsung. You won't find better value anywhere.

Global Version Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm 3GB 32GB Mobile Phone Snapdragon 625 Octa Core 13MP Fingerprint MIUI8.1 CE redmi 4 G
http://s.aliexpress.com/BJV3IVZJ
(from AliExpress Android)

This looks like a good deal for a phone I've been looking at for a while.
I could do with dual sim for work (trips to Russia) but don't want a big step down from my Samsung S6 - any thoughts of the performance difference?

Not everyone has £600 to spend on a phone. Even the people that do, don't like losing £200 in the first year due to depreciation. Even if this phone loses half of its value in the first year, the loss is only be £85. That's much better value than a £600 iphone or any other flagship. Its not as if a £600 phone performs 3 or 4 times better than this Moto either.

I've got prime and ordered it whilst in holiday. I scheduled it for delivery for when I was back home two weeks later but they delivered it the next day (after I ordered it)!

This is what I do in my One Plus 3 and my yearly bill is about £40. Dual Sim may cost a little more but the savings are HUGE.

LOL, this comment could apply to sooo many things!

Or don't be a sheep.

Of course she did. She works in sales. She's not going to say it's a bad price...

are both sim slots 3g/4g, and allows 3g on both slot simultaneously?

Just buy an iphone then the job's done

This dual-SIM version of the phone enables you to get a good deal on a calls/text-only SIM, and another good deal on a data-only SIM, even mixing contract / PAYG / or 30-day SIMs to get a really good saving on your mobile bill.

When my mum bought her moto phone last year, the staff at the Speke CPW/Curry's store actually told her not to buy it from them but to buy online. I was a bit annoyed as she'd taken ages to find the one she wanted. We did get it direct from Moto online in the end for the same price due to a deal plus she was able to choose her own colour and have it engraved with her name so she was happy. I guess we either had very helpful and honest staff of just staff who hated their job and the company they work for - from the look of them at the time I think it was the latter.

Amazon online chat would not honour price difference, but the assistant replying to my email said they would give me refund on difference! (it was only Friday I received my phone)

3GB RAM, now that's more like it!

I have a moto e second generation which does have an sd slot but it seems you cant transfer apps to the card. So yes space would be important but surely if it is all on internal memory wont that clog the phone and slow it down?

They don't refund but you can return and re-order. Re-order first so your not without.

I have the 2GB version and its brill but only paid 89 pound for it new from John Lewis after massive cock up on the order there end and 3 delivery' later as they kept sending to wrong store for collection so i got massive cashback from them and dont forget 2 year warranty as well with john lewis

I just switched from an LGG4 to a G4, and I think you would be better off saving £40 and getting the G4 instead of the G5. Of course it depends on what size screen you prefer. But the G4 is fast as hell, throws anything I have at it, and I can't see how the G5 could be that much of an improvement other than aesthetics.

might try this - wouldn't have Xiaomi again - Redmi note 2 which failed after 4 months (bootloop) was told motherboard was faulty and after a fight managed to get a replacement which died after 3 months, couldn't be bothered with the hassle as the Chinese don't want to honour their warranties (supposedly 2 years!).

i just tried online chat with them, even put through to the Supervisor! I have to return my current phone and order a new one! What a hassle for the P&P and time for just £15!

Depends how you ask them! My son got a 25 quid refund on an Echo when it went down to 125 quid the day after he bought it. was refused initially but just said he was disappointed what with him being such a good customer. Worked like a dream!

16GB internal memory is pretty paltry these days.

My daughter in law got this a few weeks ago and is made up with it! Xiaomi are one of the world's largest smartphone companies and their build quality is up there with the best of them TBH. 4GB RAM/64GB internal memory, 5.5 FHD screen, 4100mAh battery, supports all the UK 4G networks, full metal build for 134 quid delivered. What's not to like?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Global-Version-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-4-Smartphone-4GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-Snapdragon-625-Octa-Core-CPU/32802702957.html?spm=2114.13010208.99999999.262.08K2bh

Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 owner here - excellent. Doesn't 'feel' any less well made than my Galaxy S6 which it has replaced.

No issues with the camera - I'm aware it's not as good as the S6 but nothing noticeably 'inferior' in terms of the shots I've taken.

Have installed Lineage OS on it.

£133 for the 4GB RAM / 64GB storage option.

Amazon do not refund price difference, even if one has bought this just a few days ago at the higher price :disappointed:
Good phone and at this price even better.

Motorola are Chinese, they're owned by Lenovo.

I've also got a 64gb Mi5 - excellent phone for the money. Minor gripes would be low light camera performance and battery life.

But for the £150 I paid for it? Amazing

I like that fone a lot but i am concern abour the coverage, How is the 4g coverage?

Just bought this phone last week (at £179.99 from Amazon), great phone and works well. Decent battery and camera. At this price its a good offer. Also Amazon are matching the 2 year warranty with JL (I have email to confirm this from them).

Just replaced my daughters aging Moto G2 for a Xiaomi Mi5/3gb/64gb for £177 from gearbest. Has duel sim but no sd slot but with 64gb of space that shouldn't be a problem. Really impressed so far. Feels and looks premium.

Get a xiaomi. I was a Moto g fan until I bought one. You won't regret it.

Massive issue on this phone is the lack of compass. Being such a cultured gentleman, I like to follow Google Maps around on holiday and it's nigh on impossible without a proper compass in the phone.

You have just listed 3 of the main priorities I look for in a mobile phone so the Moto G5 would be an easy winner for me.

At least you get it :wink:

I'm just highlighting that ANY PRICE is a good price because she works there, she paid to say that.

She works at Carphonewarehouse and the deal is on Amazon. She is not paid to tell customers that they are better off buying from Amazon!

If this phone was £179.99 she would say it was a good price because......... she works there, she paid to say that.
If this phone was £174.99 she would say it was a good price because......... she works there, she paid to say that.
If this phone was £169.99 she would say it was a good price because......... she works there, she paid to say that.
If this phone was £164.99 she would say it was a good price because......... she works there, she paid to say that.
So yeah..... it's obvious because she works there.

Unless you want a reliable warranty or a dual SIM phone which can take a 2 SIM cards and a micro SD card at the same time. Depends what your priorities are

Is there expectation for a further drop after tomorrow?

There's a few videos on YouTube comparing both phones and the G5 performs better in terms of the camera.

The only place that sells the 3gb version is Amazon
They do sell the 2gb version but it's £170 (I think)
She did say it's worth paying the extra for the 3Gb

So how is that obvious?

absolute love my g4 plus .. for the price you cannot go wrong

She is obviously going to say that right?, she works there.

Got one of these, top phone for the money

wait for the 27th when news of the g5s and g5s+ come out

Cheers

Have been watching this for a week or so and contemplating buying @ £179.99 not expecting it to price drop. Even the girl @ my local carphone warehouse said at £179.99 it's a good price

Have some heat