The price looks good for a i5-6200U, 4GB memory and a 128GB SSD laptop. Hope someone likes it.
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vishy01234
10 Jun 174#9
1080p, 256Gb SSD, 8Gb RAM - then you are talking. It's really a bad compromise to not pay the extra £50 or so to get that in the spec.
Agharta
11 Jun 173#29
If you double the pixel density on a 5" phone you see the same amount of info but with twice the DPI.
Moving from 768P to 1080P is also a doubling the pixel density but it also allows you to display twice as much info as the 15.6" screen is large enough to accommodate it.
So you can view 2 documents rather than one all with the same number of pixels.
If you showed twice as much info on a 5" screen everything would be too small as it would be half the size.
Therefore they are not comparable.
Pondlife
10 Jun 173#21
Stop reading anything the reviewer that said that writes
Cenobite to vishy01234
10 Jun 173#11
Hey, do you have a link to that?
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Coulomb_Barrier
14 Jun 17#48
720P screen is woeful in this day and age. Welcome to the dark ages, basically, with this laptop. 1080p minimum for a 15-inch screen.
so you're going to be squinting to see everything? I have a friend who has a 1080p 14inch laptop and you can't see anything. If you're using it long term, you really shouldn't have things that small anyway.
Then again, I do coding. Having a high resolution would really kill my eyes.
pinchez
11 Jun 17#42
I got a Medion Akoya i5-7200U, 8GB Memory 256GB SSD, 1080p 14" screen, 2yr warranty for around £400 2 months ago. It's a great machine an even has backlit keys :smiley:
vishy01234 to pinchez
11 Jun 17#44
Awesome deal!! Where did you buy the laptop from? Aldi?
Wakinglimb
11 Jun 17#43
Mental is a harsh word to use. When 1080p screens exist and can be had in laptops circa this price, not sure why you would entertain it.
redadmiral
11 Jun 17#41
Is it possible to remove the dvd drive and fit a hdd caddy?
congrevecv
11 Jun 17#40
high five to you
mmb76
11 Jun 17#39
:smiley::confused:
afroylnt
11 Jun 171#38
I find 4gb to be limiting when running browsers with many tabs that are open. So unless you are talking about a more portable device I would make sure it can be upgraded to at least 6gb but preferably 8gb
redadmiral
11 Jun 17#37
From ebuyers web page:
"Plenty of Storage
With up to 1 TB of storage space, there's ample room for all your documents, photos, and other digital files"
Is this a typo or reference to some type of cloud storage?
I've just picked up one of the X1 carbon laptops, Tier1 have better eyesight than me as I've yet to find a screen blemish. The worst thing about it was that the stickers they put on the wrist rest were starting to peel so I had to remove them.
tallpete33
11 Jun 17#33
Bought my daughter a Lenovo for a similar price last year. She hates it and I can't blame her to be honest. Still, it will encourage her to work hard for a better one :laughing:
mani5001
11 Jun 17#32
It'd be cheaper to just buy one that's already 8GB and probably with a better build quality
congrevecv
11 Jun 171#31
every one, my Fujitsu a556 has a screen of 1366 X 768. For things like word processing and exchanging messages here, it is perfectly good. If you have more resolution, you most likely have less memory for every thing else as popular laptops are sold with as little memory as possible and with out dedicated graphics memory that is part of a graphics card
donslibi
11 Jun 17#30
You could buy more RAM to make it 8GB.
Agharta
11 Jun 173#29
If you double the pixel density on a 5" phone you see the same amount of info but with twice the DPI.
Moving from 768P to 1080P is also a doubling the pixel density but it also allows you to display twice as much info as the 15.6" screen is large enough to accommodate it.
So you can view 2 documents rather than one all with the same number of pixels.
If you showed twice as much info on a 5" screen everything would be too small as it would be half the size.
Therefore they are not comparable.
mani5001
11 Jun 17#28
400 was my budget for a laptop (got a Ryzen and 1070 in my PC.) Needed a laptop for photoshop while I'm away from PC. Using photoshop means multi tasking, the i5 made me click this deal straight away but 4GB is just not going to cut it for me :disappointed: guess I'll have to save up a bit more or if anyone can recommend anything I've missed?
donslibi
11 Jun 171#27
Nothing misleading about it. I've used 720p and 4k laptops, so I'm helping others realise that for most tasks, this resolution is perfectly acceptable. The higher resolutions provide better clarity in some applications, e.g. photo editing. For info. I have also used mobiles with various screen resolutions and with a screen that small, you'd be hard pushed to justify anything over 720p or at most 1080p. In the case of mobiles, you hold the photo closer than you would a laptop so on balance, the same sort of resolution would be acceptable.
I would suggest providing useful comments rather than trying to tell people that this resolution is slightly higher than 720p. We know that, it's for making it easier for others to related to a common term.
omgpleasespamme
11 Jun 17#26
You comment is misleading. 720p is low for a laptop and in fact this laptop screen has a higher resolution than that at 1366x768.
This has been fairly standard in laptops for many many years now as higher resolutions take more power and cost more. This being said the screen resolutions of my last 3 phones have been 2560x1440 and those have been on 5.5 inch screens, the screen on this laptop is 15.6 inches. My own 13 inch screen laptop has a screen resolution of 2560 x 1440.
I think it was right of spannerzone to point out how poor the resolution is.
congrevecv
11 Jun 171#25
cojack only time will tell, though to be fair, what you say is close to what Apple are known for over recent years
spannerzone your 'horses for courses' is very true. One of my friends, his boy has an HP laptop like my fujitsu. The HP has 4GB, I'm told that it has freezing issues. I'll be truthful and admit that when I bought my laptop, there was a very good deal for 2 of 16GB on Amazon that I bought. I'm regularly on the prowl for a good SSD. I've read reviews that say some are little better than common hard drives
cojack to congrevecv
11 Jun 17#23
In a few years time, there won't be any swappable HDD or Memory modules, they will be soldered to the MB.
kreames
11 Jun 17#22
Not really a fan of the U processors
Pondlife
10 Jun 173#21
Stop reading anything the reviewer that said that writes
congrevecv
10 Jun 17#10
4 GB is not much, windows will be compromised by having to call upon the hard drive a lot. What is the position with extra memory?
jaydeeuk1 to congrevecv
10 Jun 171#12
4gb is fine, unless you intend on running VMS or editing 1080 or 4k video, but then it's a crap screen.
adrianmg to congrevecv
10 Jun 17#13
True up to a point but the hard drive is an SSD so swap is *way* quicker than on a traditional hard disk so this is much less of an issue than it might have been.
I had a Samsung ultrabook with 4GB RAM and an SSD and frankly I rarely noticed a slowdown even when running a second copy of Windows in a VM (eg tinkering with SQL Server), at least for testing purposes. For large databases or heavy loads it would become like treacle, but then that's not really the target usage for a budget-priced consumer laptop. (Having said that, dozens of open tabs in Chrome would do the same.... but you can always close some).
spannerzone to congrevecv
10 Jun 171#19
That's just not really an issue for the sort of average user who'll buy this. WIn10 runs on 2GB (at a push) and is pretty decent on a 4GB machine with an SSD drive. Unless you run very demanding applications in which case you need to not cheap out on a budget laptop :smile:
It is a fairly decent spec but if you work on spreadsheets, word docs or other things that need to display a fair amount of information on screen then that's when a 1366x768 shows its limits and it quite possible is one of those dull wishy-washy LCD's that seem to be on every lower priced laptop these days. Horses for courses, ultimately this is still a very good price for what you're getting.
Wakinglimb
10 Jun 173#6
it's a nice spec, but I totally disagree, 720p is not enough to be anywhere near productive.
dijital to Wakinglimb
10 Jun 172#18
I created e mid to high end IOS/Android racing game on a 720p laptop screen, this included all the 3d model development/texturing/audio/music/physics/scripting on a 720p screen.
Im not saying it wouldn't have been easier on a 1080p screen, it was more to point out how mental your point was.
bytemaster
10 Jun 172#17
The resolution is acceptable on a £200 10"/11" netbook, but woeful on a £369 laptop.
LozzieWills
10 Jun 171#15
I really don't see the issue with this not being full hd. I play games on my Lenovo V110 15ISK (i3 tho), no issue with resolution. So far, I've tried Overwatch (low settings for everything), Cities Skylines and Insurgency. All run with next to no issue.
All those moaning about a 720p laptop screen - please feel free to drop an extra £100 or so on a full hd screen which you won't see too much of a difference on.
Agharta to LozzieWills
10 Jun 171#16
On a 15.6" screen you don't need to scale at all so you get so much more real estate to work with when multi-tasking etc.
This isn't about high density for the sake of it like on phones and ultra dense laptops but usable real estate, twice as much in fact.
So I could have a web page open on the left of the screen and a document on the right both the same size in pixels as the whole screen on the 720P laptop.
congrevecv
10 Jun 17#14
adrianmg as you seem to know your subject, my understanding is that SSDs can only be written to a limited number of times, so more memory would as a result increase the life expectancy of the SSD. Though you have not asked, my I5 laptop here handles 4 browser tabs with 32GB very fluidly
vishy01234
10 Jun 174#9
1080p, 256Gb SSD, 8Gb RAM - then you are talking. It's really a bad compromise to not pay the extra £50 or so to get that in the spec.
Cenobite to vishy01234
10 Jun 173#11
Hey, do you have a link to that?
haritori
10 Jun 17#8
1080p at 15" as a minimum.. 13" you might get away with 720p but I'm using a a 13" mac at 2560 x 1600 and I have to scale it to smallest..the higher the better IMO.
redadmiral
10 Jun 17#7
Any good for a university student to around campus etc?
jaydeeuk1
10 Jun 171#5
720 screen and DVD writer, how quaint.
Goal
10 Jun 171#4
It's very relative.... If u have never used 1080p....720p will be good Enuf
spannerzone
10 Jun 17#2
Decent specs except the screen resolution will annoy many people. heat from me regardless, it's a low price and otherwise decent.
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Moving from 768P to 1080P is also a doubling the pixel density but it also allows you to display twice as much info as the 15.6" screen is large enough to accommodate it.
So you can view 2 documents rather than one all with the same number of pixels.
If you showed twice as much info on a 5" screen everything would be too small as it would be half the size.
Therefore they are not comparable.
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Ideal for uni.
Then again, I do coding. Having a high resolution would really kill my eyes.
"Plenty of Storage
With up to 1 TB of storage space, there's ample room for all your documents, photos, and other digital files"
Is this a typo or reference to some type of cloud storage?
ref; It'd be cheaper to just buy one that's already 8GB and probably with a better build quality
For example what?
http://www.tier1online.com/728-20a8-s0qh00-bscreen/refurbished-x1-carbon-2nd-gen-i5-4300-2560x1600-grade-b-minor-screen-blemish-barely-visible-when-in-use
Or this for £350;
http://www.tier1online.com/728-2347a31-b/refurbished-thinkpad-t430-1600x900-8gb-240gb-ssd-i5-3320m-grade-b
I've just picked up one of the X1 carbon laptops, Tier1 have better eyesight than me as I've yet to find a screen blemish. The worst thing about it was that the stickers they put on the wrist rest were starting to peel so I had to remove them.
Moving from 768P to 1080P is also a doubling the pixel density but it also allows you to display twice as much info as the 15.6" screen is large enough to accommodate it.
So you can view 2 documents rather than one all with the same number of pixels.
If you showed twice as much info on a 5" screen everything would be too small as it would be half the size.
Therefore they are not comparable.
I would suggest providing useful comments rather than trying to tell people that this resolution is slightly higher than 720p. We know that, it's for making it easier for others to related to a common term.
This has been fairly standard in laptops for many many years now as higher resolutions take more power and cost more. This being said the screen resolutions of my last 3 phones have been 2560x1440 and those have been on 5.5 inch screens, the screen on this laptop is 15.6 inches. My own 13 inch screen laptop has a screen resolution of 2560 x 1440.
I think it was right of spannerzone to point out how poor the resolution is.
I had a Samsung ultrabook with 4GB RAM and an SSD and frankly I rarely noticed a slowdown even when running a second copy of Windows in a VM (eg tinkering with SQL Server), at least for testing purposes. For large databases or heavy loads it would become like treacle, but then that's not really the target usage for a budget-priced consumer laptop. (Having said that, dozens of open tabs in Chrome would do the same.... but you can always close some).
It is a fairly decent spec but if you work on spreadsheets, word docs or other things that need to display a fair amount of information on screen then that's when a 1366x768 shows its limits and it quite possible is one of those dull wishy-washy LCD's that seem to be on every lower priced laptop these days. Horses for courses, ultimately this is still a very good price for what you're getting.
Im not saying it wouldn't have been easier on a 1080p screen, it was more to point out how mental your point was.
All those moaning about a 720p laptop screen - please feel free to drop an extra £100 or so on a full hd screen which you won't see too much of a difference on.
This isn't about high density for the sake of it like on phones and ultra dense laptops but usable real estate, twice as much in fact.
So I could have a web page open on the left of the screen and a document on the right both the same size in pixels as the whole screen on the 720P laptop.