Yep, prepping mine now. Just wondering do I stick it to the front or back?
daze24 to gordondavenport
22 Jun 179#3
lol, you obviously never had an apple product before.
Badhumour
22 Jun 177#10
Just reread my post...I was actually trying to ask if the 32gb is better for the £30. Sorry, I put a ! Instead of a ?
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ycsb
22 Jun 1717#1
It's not though is it.
gordondavenport
22 Jun 17#2
does it take an SD card?
daze24 to gordondavenport
22 Jun 179#3
lol, you obviously never had an apple product before.
stoneblade to gordondavenport
22 Jun 1712#4
Yep, prepping mine now. Just wondering do I stick it to the front or back?
eliHd452 to gordondavenport
22 Jun 172#5
lol what is an SD card said apple?
Nighthawk
22 Jun 17#6
Does it come unlocked?
7iain7 to Nighthawk
22 Jun 171#7
yes it is unlocked
naz365
22 Jun 173#8
Heat added OP ! I'm currently using the phone as I type. I went for the 128gb version and I do not regret it for a second.
The phone is very snappy and supports WIFI calling (I'm with Vodafone-check with your network provider). It has a 3.5mm headphone jack in case anyone is wondering :wink:
chrisbenwalker
22 Jun 17#9
I think it was meant to be a joke if his user name is anything to go by :smirk:
Badhumour
22 Jun 177#10
Just reread my post...I was actually trying to ask if the 32gb is better for the £30. Sorry, I put a ! Instead of a ?
chrisbenwalker to Badhumour
22 Jun 171#11
In answer to your question, no the 32gb would be a far better option. With the OS taking up so much space, the phone would soon be crippled with a few apps and media. Very few phones are now available without added micro SD slot for that very reason.
pfagan10
22 Jun 171#12
Couldn't agree more- 16gb is not enough storage, with OS additions and any sort of app usage.
Badhumour
22 Jun 171#13
Thanks
Badhumour
22 Jun 17#14
Thanks
chrisbenwalker
22 Jun 17#15
No worries mate.
le_jaeger
22 Jun 17#16
Don't forget o2 refresh handsets still available at about £153. Not a bad price if you *need* brand new
Slaedkutoh to le_jaeger
22 Jun 171#18
Do you have a link? I've looked for the SE at this price but can't find it.
rodman to le_jaeger
23 Jun 17#30
Brand new 32GB on refresh is same price £289. So no credit check when you buy from giffgaff.
iz123456789
22 Jun 172#17
Wasn't it last week GiffGaff was selling iPhone 6s Plus 128GB for £300 (which I missed, so gutted)
plewis00 to iz123456789
22 Jun 17#20
There wasn't many and it was a mistake they honoured as the price shot up to nearly double this week
Justsuperman
22 Jun 171#19
SD cards are far slower than flash nand memory in Apple devices
fubar888
22 Jun 17#21
Couldn't agree more, go for the 32gb unless you want to be moving stuff on/off constantly of have great 4g everywhere you go and unlimited data so can use the 'cloud'.
haritori
22 Jun 173#22
I recently swapped from android to and iPhone SE..
I cannot get on with large screen phones 4.7" MAX!! so the SE screen size is perfect have to say its also such a fast little phone, its a pleasure to use.
hukd_addict
22 Jun 171#23
ditto... se and 5s size is perfect.
McHotpoon
22 Jun 174#24
SD is good enough for 4k 60fps video so unless your running a database from your IPhone then there not really any arguement for forcing nand on users for storing your photos and music. How many apps need a read speed over 90mb/s, it's about charging the customer over the odds for handsets with larger storage which they couldn't do if they provided SD card slot.
Olliex88
22 Jun 173#25
Very currently have £50 credit back on iPhone SE if you choose buy now pay later . 32gb is £339 but choose buy now pay later and £50 credit back to your account makes it £289 . Great if you don't want to fork out in one lump sum but just make sure you pay it off within period to avoid hefty interest.
CouldntThinkOfAUsername
23 Jun 171#26
Still faster than an S8.
Ted.Wales
23 Jun 17#27
I decided that I missed the smaller iPhone and got one of these recently. I am really impressed! It was a bit of a risk, thinking I'd got used to the bigger screen but it isn't a problem. They are also a lot easier to keep safe and in one piece.
JoelM123
23 Jun 17#28
Nice deal. I went for the 16GB version and have had no issues with memory, i use the icloud storage for photos, which gives aneasy 5GB extra for free. In terms of apps i have light ones. With previous iphone 6, i had 16GB, but i usually had to transfer photos to computer semi-annually and thats it. But for £30 more, 32GB seems to make most sense. Less than a quid/GB is a steal
misterleoni
23 Jun 17#29
Another way of looking at it is that SD is slowing down any decrease in NAND storage costs.
If Samsung had stuck to their guns with the S6 idea of storage tiers then we *might* have started to see cheaper storage tiers.
*Personally* I think internal storage is a better option all round both for OS stability and security - I'd rather have a 128GB phone than even a 64GB phone with the option of a card. As I see it, the only things that makes an SD card option 'better' are the fact that storage jumps are still relatively expensive, and with an SD card you get the option of popping your old cruft and malware filled SD card into your spanking new device to save hassle.
Remember that SD cards are still very expensive when newer and larger storage tiers are released - until production starts to ramp up and the price comes down through economies of scale.
I remember when a 1GB SD card cost £100 - it's not always been this glorious situation where you can add 64Gb to your phone for £1, and in order for the cost of NAND to come down, people have to start buying it - pure and simple.
buglawton
23 Jun 17#31
I got a previous GiffGaff HUKD posted deal, the 32GB 5s, it was about £330 so voted this one here hot. 32GB is just right.
eddibabyyeah
23 Jun 17#32
Great phone for 289. I have been using the 64GB version for just over a year. It was my first iOS device.
I was previously Android since V1.1. But I got sick of all the crap manufacturers put ontop of the original OS. And they were very slow at getting you upto date with new the latest android OS and sometime not at all. I will never go back. Apple all the way. BTW I love the small form factor of this phone, no need for 5 inch screen, its a phone FFS
Nuggy96
23 Jun 17#33
Can you get the 32GB iPhone without having to spend at least £10 on a goodybag? Or do you have to get a goodybag with it? As I'm on EE
BrianM to Nuggy96
23 Jun 17#38
Only if you already have a GiffGaff SIM. I had one from some time in the past and this avoided me having to buy a new one.
TechBB
23 Jun 17#34
I can't believe that after all these years of iPhones, people are still getting into debates about whether SD cards are more practical and the assumption that the only reason SD card slots are omitted by Apple is purely because they want to charge excessively for additional NAND storage.
Contrary to what you've said, some of the arguments for omitting SD card slots have been with respect to the thickness of the device as well as the internal layout. Another argument is the fact that the inclusion of removable storage presents additional security risks since most people don't encrypt the contents of their SD cards, whereas a device with no removable storage that is locked will generally not allow the average thief to access the content until the device is unlocked.
Whether those arguments are valid depends on the manufacturer's vision and the buyer's requirements. However, people can simply not buy an iPhone or other smartphone that doesn't come with an SD card slot. It's that simple really.
Stev00
23 Jun 17#35
will John lewis price match? They have a 2 year guarantee
7iain7 to Stev00
23 Jun 17#36
I got this reply from JL when I tried a price match "Thank you for your enquiry.
In order to apply a price reduction on a purchase, the criteria in our pricing policy must be met. I regret that after review the request you have submitted does not match all or parts of this policy.
In order to match a price request, high street competitors trade on the same basis as us, with premises on a high street or comparable shopping destination freely open to the public in the UK mainland. Unfortunately GiffGaff dont have any stores, they are online only. They should carry a reasonable range of goods in stock for you to buy and take away, with clearly displayed prices. Their websites need to trade under the same brand and on the same basis as their high street shops.
Outlets which trade on a different basis to us, such as those that operate only on the internet or through mail-order, showrooms attached to internet-only companies, collection points, auction sites, factory outlets, membership clubs, duty-free shops, market stalls or home shopping channels, are not deemed equivalent high street competitors. We also don't match competitors who are in administration or closing down.
Therefore, on this occasion I regret that I cannot match the price offered by GiffGaff. If you would like to view more information about Never Knowingly Undersold and our pricing you can do so on our website.
Stev00
23 Jun 171#37
completely beating around the bush Mr lewis. Shame on you
Cloudane
23 Jun 17#39
Now that is a pretty good deal. Heat
Nuggy96
23 Jun 17#40
Could I just order a free sim?
McHotpoon
23 Jun 17#41
The only argument I would agree with would be for security, but honestly knowing Apple is more protectionist than a communist government about its products, market and ecosystem have to go with my gut and having SD available to users would massively change the bottom line.
speedking
23 Jun 17#42
In the camera department how good is it compared to say something like a LG G4? Tempted to downsize to a smaller handset and go back to iOS.
BrianM to speedking
23 Jun 17#45
The camera is one of the best in a mobile - it's the same 12Mpixel as the iPhone 6S. How it compares to the LG I don't know.
gordondavenport
23 Jun 17#43
can i drag and drop music and files on to this phone easily or do I still have to download software like iTunes to do this?
BrianM
23 Jun 17#44
I don't know! I had/have a GiffGaff account with the SiM connected to it (but no credit) ATM. I must have had credit at one time.
Hal
23 Jun 17#46
If you don't want to use Giff Gaff is it just a case of not activating the SIM card or do we have to actually cancel the account upon receipt does anyone know?
BrianM to Hal
23 Jun 171#47
I do! GiffGaff is PAYG but where you can convert credit into "Goodybags" - or not!
If you have to buy £10 credit it will sit on the SIM until used. It need not be used in the iPhone even! You can setup a GiffGaff account to make topping-up easier but it is totally optional. Nothing needs cancelled!
Their iPhones are not locked and will activate with any SIM
Hal
24 Jun 17#48
Thank you BrianM. I was worried by the reference to recurring payment.
BrianM to Hal
24 Jun 17#49
That's if you wish to buy with monthly payments - for which you get charged interest. Looking at one example it was either £259 single payment or ~£303 over 24 months. Unlike contract phones none of the monthly payment is for calls etc.
Hal
24 Jun 17#50
No I paid for the phone in one go. But in the purchase confirmation email it included this (see photo). I guess the secret is to (1) not activate the goody bag and (2) cancel the card details upon receipt of the phone.
Cloudane
24 Jun 17#51
Went for this. Fancied returning to iOS for "lots of little reasons" and I'd been mulling over a return to phones I can use one handed without grip shuffling too.
It's basically a 6S in a small package (without 3D touch) as such I wouldn't pay full price but this is a good deal.
May regret only getting 32gb though! Will see.
superfreddy
24 Jun 17#52
Only dual core though?
rodman to superfreddy
27 Jun 17#61
misterleoni
24 Jun 17#53
You need iTunes to drag and drop things but it is pretty easy. If you install, say, VLC media player you can then open up a VLC file manager window via the 'apps' sidebar in iTunes and just drag any video files into there. There's no confusing syncing or anything like that - very straightforward and the items instantly show in the VLC app (or whatever other app you're using).
If you have a Mac you have to install software to connect an Android device so it's similar in a way - both platforms have incompatible file systems out of the box and need software as a go-between.
trd
24 Jun 17#54
@TechBB But if your iPhone develops a fault, how do you retain ALL your media and documents as you have to wipe the phone clean before sending for repair? If it's on SD you can just remove it and access your data on your laptop etc... lol
BrianM to trd
24 Jun 17#55
Easy peasy! You get 5Gb of iCloud data free with your Apple ID and the phone is normally set to automatically backup there as required (only over WiFi). Any new iPhone (of the same or a different model) just restores itself from there. You can, if you set it to do this, get Photos to also backup automatically to iCloud and only leave thumbnail sized images for indices on the phone (if memory is low)
You can also backup to a PC using iTunes.
Repairs to iPhones are best done at Apple Stores who have (no matter who supplied the phone!!!!!!) an unbeatable reputation of "repair or replace" on the spot for the 12 month warranty period! The handset informs Apple when it is first activated (turned on) so they know (without proof being needed) when the warranty starts and ends.
BrianM
24 Jun 17#56
This is new!
If it's like EE you should be able to cancel the "auto renew" aspect and just leave the £10 on the SIM
hkhk
24 Jun 171#57
Some mentions of £10 goodybag in the thread - which would be instant, as you can get it with the phone purchase, I suppose. But, if it can wait a day or two, a free sim is available from the GG website and they do £5 goodybags there too.
BrianM to hkhk
26 Jun 17#58
If you have a "MyGiffGaff" account associated with a SIM - even, as I have, an old one with no current credit, you don't get charged the £10 when ordering from this account
However I see that all colours of the 32Gb model are currently OOS - so people trying too hard to avoid the extra £10 may be out of luck!
trd
27 Jun 17#59
So my 64gb micro SD has 12gb videos, 4gb music, 5gb photos, 0.5gb docs, 1gb other media and the rest some apps. Hmm so I need over 20gb... well over the 5gb free. How does that work then?
Also backing up to PC may take a while but imagine restoring 20gb from the cloud...would take hours on a 12meg connection :o
BrianM to trd
27 Jun 17#60
£0.79/month for 50Gb
It's never been a problem for me as even a full restore from iCloud on a brand new device has only taken me ~30 minutes to reload (mostly) Apps and Photos.
It's just handy that incremental backups to iCloud "just happen". You can omit things (including photos, video and music) from iCloud backups - if it makes more sense to do them manually.
For known huge quantities of anything I would use iTunes.
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The phone is very snappy and supports WIFI calling (I'm with Vodafone-check with your network provider). It has a 3.5mm headphone jack in case anyone is wondering :wink:
I cannot get on with large screen phones 4.7" MAX!! so the SE screen size is perfect have to say its also such a fast little phone, its a pleasure to use.
If Samsung had stuck to their guns with the S6 idea of storage tiers then we *might* have started to see cheaper storage tiers.
*Personally* I think internal storage is a better option all round both for OS stability and security - I'd rather have a 128GB phone than even a 64GB phone with the option of a card. As I see it, the only things that makes an SD card option 'better' are the fact that storage jumps are still relatively expensive, and with an SD card you get the option of popping your old cruft and malware filled SD card into your spanking new device to save hassle.
Remember that SD cards are still very expensive when newer and larger storage tiers are released - until production starts to ramp up and the price comes down through economies of scale.
I remember when a 1GB SD card cost £100 - it's not always been this glorious situation where you can add 64Gb to your phone for £1, and in order for the cost of NAND to come down, people have to start buying it - pure and simple.
I was previously Android since V1.1. But I got sick of all the crap manufacturers put ontop of the original OS. And they were very slow at getting you upto date with new the latest android OS and sometime not at all. I will never go back. Apple all the way. BTW I love the small form factor of this phone, no need for 5 inch screen, its a phone FFS
Contrary to what you've said, some of the arguments for omitting SD card slots have been with respect to the thickness of the device as well as the internal layout. Another argument is the fact that the inclusion of removable storage presents additional security risks since most people don't encrypt the contents of their SD cards, whereas a device with no removable storage that is locked will generally not allow the average thief to access the content until the device is unlocked.
Whether those arguments are valid depends on the manufacturer's vision and the buyer's requirements. However, people can simply not buy an iPhone or other smartphone that doesn't come with an SD card slot. It's that simple really.
In order to apply a price reduction on a purchase, the criteria in our pricing policy must be met. I regret that after review the request you have submitted does not match all or parts of this policy.
In order to match a price request, high street competitors trade on the same basis as us, with premises on a high street or comparable shopping destination freely open to the public in the UK mainland. Unfortunately GiffGaff dont have any stores, they are online only. They should carry a reasonable range of goods in stock for you to buy and take away, with clearly displayed prices. Their websites need to trade under the same brand and on the same basis as their high street shops.
Outlets which trade on a different basis to us, such as those that operate only on the internet or through mail-order, showrooms attached to internet-only companies, collection points, auction sites, factory outlets, membership clubs, duty-free shops, market stalls or home shopping channels, are not deemed equivalent high street competitors. We also don't match competitors who are in administration or closing down.
Therefore, on this occasion I regret that I cannot match the price offered by GiffGaff. If you would like to view more information about Never Knowingly Undersold and our pricing you can do so on our website.
If you have to buy £10 credit it will sit on the SIM until used. It need not be used in the iPhone even! You can setup a GiffGaff account to make topping-up easier but it is totally optional. Nothing needs cancelled!
Their iPhones are not locked and will activate with any SIM
No I paid for the phone in one go. But in the purchase confirmation email it included this (see photo). I guess the secret is to (1) not activate the goody bag and (2) cancel the card details upon receipt of the phone.
It's basically a 6S in a small package (without 3D touch) as such I wouldn't pay full price but this is a good deal.
May regret only getting 32gb though! Will see.
If you have a Mac you have to install software to connect an Android device so it's similar in a way - both platforms have incompatible file systems out of the box and need software as a go-between.
You can also backup to a PC using iTunes.
Repairs to iPhones are best done at Apple Stores who have (no matter who supplied the phone!!!!!!) an unbeatable reputation of "repair or replace" on the spot for the 12 month warranty period! The handset informs Apple when it is first activated (turned on) so they know (without proof being needed) when the warranty starts and ends.
If it's like EE you should be able to cancel the "auto renew" aspect and just leave the £10 on the SIM
However I see that all colours of the 32Gb model are currently OOS - so people trying too hard to avoid the extra £10 may be out of luck!
Also backing up to PC may take a while but imagine restoring 20gb from the cloud...would take hours on a 12meg connection :o
It's never been a problem for me as even a full restore from iCloud on a brand new device has only taken me ~30 minutes to reload (mostly) Apps and Photos.
It's just handy that incremental backups to iCloud "just happen". You can omit things (including photos, video and music) from iCloud backups - if it makes more sense to do them manually.
For known huge quantities of anything I would use iTunes.