People vote hot cause they don't understand specs. They don't realise this is super weak. They just see a low price for a new laptop and jump aboard.

2274 on passmark

Unless I'm missing something it looks perfectly usable to me as a basic machine. Sure it's no i9 but it's nowhere near as bad as some of you guys are making out.

Surely if anything the lack of SSD is going to be the bottleneck in the system not the CPU.

It's perfectly adequate as a machine for the kids to mess about on and at £200 it's not going to break the bank.

The CPU in that is so slow you could replace it with a picture of a CPU and outperform it.

If you buy this I assure you, you'll know what eternity feels like when simply trying to even load the web browser, that's after waiting about 3 hours for it to actually boot windows fully, why AMD even created this awful excuse for a CPU is beyond me, it's not fit to be in a calculator let alone an entire computer.

whats not to like for 200 squid

Ffs why is this gaining heat!!
I would get a MIIX 310 instead of this heavy lump!

And AMD E2??? Seriously??? I must be in another dimension if this is a hot deal!

People vote hot cause they don't understand specs. They don't realise this is super weak. They just see a low price for a new laptop and jump aboard.

Not a great spec... personally wouldn't spend 200 quid on this

The CPU in that is so slow you could replace it with a picture of a CPU and outperform it.

If you buy this I assure you, you'll know what eternity feels like when simply trying to even load the web browser, that's after waiting about 3 hours for it to actually boot windows fully, why AMD even created this awful excuse for a CPU is beyond me, it's not fit to be in a calculator let alone an entire computer.

I made the assumption that this is a slow processor. Turns out that it benchmarks 2.5x faster than the awful Celeron N3050 that so many people buy..

Was in currys and a lot of laptops use the n3050
Which has a passmark of 886 or 450 per core.
Thats cronic , why does currys sell them. Its almost pi3 speed in a 15 inch laptop.

Heat for this deal using a half decent processor

There's nothing half decent about this CPU, in lots of situations it's slower than a celeron and no quicker than a bay trail atom and they're ancient.

With a CPU Benchmark of 2274, so extremely good for standard daily office and work stuff and well balanced with 4GB https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+E2-7110+APU
Most of those, if not all, who know their workload is intensive, already know not to buy this type of laptop anyway as they are typically going for at least 6000-8000 CPU benchmarks as a minimum, database and intensive graphics design stuff.
It is a quad core and its single thread is 700 which means it is just as limited as a dual core at 1200 CPU benchmark for single thread CPU intensive apps (if you have these, you can find out by comparing your existing laptop CPU specs).
Note Photoshop features multi-threading performance comparisons are here https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CC-Multi-Core-Performance-625/
So I would use this laptop for casual photo editing too.

You might be surprised (I was)..

Bay trail z3735f - passmark of 909
AMD e2-7110 - passmark of 2274

Forget passmark, look up some real world applications. Some benchmarks, not all, show the e2 no quicker than an atom.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-E-Series-E2-7110-Notebook-Processor.144996.0.html

Ahhh the Real World. So here's a more Real-World question... What's better (and new, not refurb) for £200?

If that's your budget (even £300 is a difficult budget for a laptop these days), you don't have a lot of options. Compromises have to be made. This is a decent spec. machine for kids & home office use. It's also pretty nicely built with decent hinges and not much flex on the case.

Having looked at all the options I could find in that budget range, I settled on one a month ago for my daughter when they were £249. It's actually not that slow and she's been very happy with it for the usual Netflix / browsing / writing Word documents. It's no i7 but you need to double your budget if you want to avoid Atom / M3 / coreduos.

Gets a hot from me.

About the speed of some Atoms is what I'd expect. However, while NBC didn't review this model, they have one full review of a laptop with this chip:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Aspire-E5-722-2611-Notebook-Review.153467.0.html
And it generally beats the Atom and has far faster graphics. Anyone wanting more performance for £200 should look at used ThinkPads, Latitudes or EliteBooks but I know plenty of people don't want to buy used and this is a reasonable deal for a hard £200 budget.

Waste of money, E2's are seriously torturous and barely qualify as a processor, an abacus is faster.

I have this laptop, it's pretty light at 1.9kg, get about 5 hours battery life out of it using Office and browsing the web with screen at about 50%. 4GB ram is plenty. Haven't had any issues with the chip either, it's more than fast enough. This is with the HDD that came with it too.

Save up then. Just because you can buy a laptop for £200, doesn't mean you should. If you do go for this, the best upgrade is to go for an SSD, but then you might as well have just spent £300 on one that came with one anyway.

If you really must have a laptop purely for writing word docs, watching films, then look at a chromebook, they're often around £200-£250, with decent full HD screens and much much better battery life than this. Currys had a 14" the other week for £229.

Hope that helps.

Usual load of rubbish about basic laptops. If all you want to do is edit Word docs, run basic spreadsheets and browse the net, this will be fine. If all you do is browse the net, then a Chromebook will be a good alternative for around the same price, but it won't run MS Office and it won't have any on board storage, so while Chromebooks are great (I have one) they are utterly useless of not on line and won't run Office. As a result, our Chromebook is useless for the kids' homework which they use Word for. As well as the Chromebook we have a medium spec (ie, higher than this) laptop, but before that we had a basic one with a similar spec to this for four years. It was never switched off, used every day for word processing and net browsing and it's performance was never a problem. It eventually dies after four years of continuous use. So if you want advanced photo-editing, create massive databases, run huge complex spreadsheets or play games a lot, don't buy this laptop. If you create documents and browse the web, it will be fine.

perfectly good for the price & pretty fast for the usual stuff by most people's standards