Found these in local Asda Swindon 5km range depending on the environment and terrain. Upto 8 channels combination Belt clip
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gavin1
10 Jun 173#8
Realistically these will have at most a Km range. In built up areas it may be as low as a few hundred meters.
It won't make any difference using another brand. These PMR446 radios only have 16 frequencies they can use and you cannot t change the frequency. At this level they are basic analog radios and different makes and models will still work on the same frequencies. There is a "sub channel" mode on some but that only hides the signal from other radios not set to the same sub channel. If two radios on the same frequency but different sub channels transmit there will still be interference.
Easiest legal way around it is to look at a uk simple licenced set of radios they can still suffer from no free channels but the people who use there professional frequencies tend to be less in number and the radios can be a more expensive. The licence is £75 for five years.
If you camp outside the UK forget using other frequencies. Radio laws differ widely in Europe but the PMR446s are pretty much the only EU wide licence free option and you should stick to them to avoid issues.
There are other ways such as using the cheaper end China ham radios and setting them to frequencies assigned to other users. Chances of being caught are low but if you are the fines are high and you may end up interfering with the emergency services.
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friendlytiger
10 Jun 17#1
Thanks, but which Asda? West or orbital?
sach1636 to friendlytiger
10 Jun 171#5
West Swindon ASDA
Goal
10 Jun 17#2
Hw can we Chk whether it's national or not
Jaden0_5
10 Jun 17#3
probably is as I know the Asda in kings hill had these reduced to £6 a few weeks back (all gone now), so they probably reduced them further to get rid of them.
Dragon32
10 Jun 172#4
Beware if you want to use these in areas where other people may be using them all the channels an get crowded. We have the Terrain 750 model and its normally impossible to get a clear channel with nobody else on it on a lot of the campsites we go to.
I'm thinking of looking into another not so common model.
bought this about a week ago in a different Asda for £2. Was last one
martaluscious
10 Jun 171#7
Hot but probably store specific
gavin1
10 Jun 173#8
Realistically these will have at most a Km range. In built up areas it may be as low as a few hundred meters.
It won't make any difference using another brand. These PMR446 radios only have 16 frequencies they can use and you cannot t change the frequency. At this level they are basic analog radios and different makes and models will still work on the same frequencies. There is a "sub channel" mode on some but that only hides the signal from other radios not set to the same sub channel. If two radios on the same frequency but different sub channels transmit there will still be interference.
Easiest legal way around it is to look at a uk simple licenced set of radios they can still suffer from no free channels but the people who use there professional frequencies tend to be less in number and the radios can be a more expensive. The licence is £75 for five years.
If you camp outside the UK forget using other frequencies. Radio laws differ widely in Europe but the PMR446s are pretty much the only EU wide licence free option and you should stick to them to avoid issues.
There are other ways such as using the cheaper end China ham radios and setting them to frequencies assigned to other users. Chances of being caught are low but if you are the fines are high and you may end up interfering with the emergency services.
Dragon32
10 Jun 172#9
Thanks for the advise - I thought maybe getting a slightly less common model may use different frequencies. :disappointed:
We will prob just put up with these ones as did not really want to spend hundreds as they are only really for when the children go to the play area/toilet on their own as we are letting them have a little more freedom round the campsite.
Thanks.
Toon_army
11 Jun 17#10
Lucky for who ever gets these, I'd of gotten them for the bairns to use at the Caravan should keep them entertained for a day or two lol
turbo_c
11 Jun 17#12
No one else until now. all hotukdealers are going to be one there now!
Chris13ct
11 Jun 17#13
I know that a lot of people get their kids pmr sets which is a good thing but the privacy is not to good even with ct ton,s on a radio with out ct ton on you can still here it you just can't chat back with out the ct ton on.as for a set with a lot more privacy at the moment is the DMR 446 chanals but it more expensive
moosery2
11 Jun 17#14
I would never buy ones that dont have privacy mode - so many people/shops have them now you'll constantly be saying "what?" "nothing" "I thought you said" "no I didnt" "oh must be someone else"
privacy mode.
all day long.
gavin1 to moosery2
12 Jun 17#16
PMR446 radios generally does not really do encryption at this price level.
Privacy mode usually refers to the sub channels, assuming you have both radios set to the same sub channel here the radio mixes into your speech a low frequency audio tone. The receiver will mute out any transmitting on the same frequency that don't have that sub tone present.
It's not really a "privacy mode" there is no privacy at all. If you tell you radio to ignore sub channels you will hear anything on that frequency regardless of what the transmitter has sent as a privacy code setting.
You might get voice inversion but that's only a case of filtering the audio but that's very weak. Any radio that does it can also convert it back to listen on anyone's calls.
Go to digital pmr446 and you can on more expensive units get an encryption boards that do some basic scrambling. Certainly enough to make the audio illegible to the average user.
However none of this gets round the fact there are only a small number of freqencies to use. Privacy mode or encryption actually makes it more likely two people will be transmitting at the same time as the sub channel/scrambling may mean the user may not even know someone else outside their group is already transmitting in the same channel.
Because radios will work far longer, don't need a mobile signal, don't use any data allowance and far easier than any app. They are much easier to use by people and dropping a cheap pmr radio and smashing it up is cheaper to fix.
Live speech apps have their uses, two way radios have their uses. It's a case of the right tool for the job.
gavin1
12 Jun 17#18
Unfortunately it's not legal to use these on the PMR446 frequencies as they are too powerful at 5W vs the .5W of a PMR set. You need to get the Uk simple licence to use them legitimately or every user be a licenced radio Ham.
As I mentioned earlier chances of being caught are low but the frequencies these generally come preset with are problematical. Every abode get I've had fromChina came with at lease on one frequency that was assigned to the mergency services. You can't listen to them as they use encrypted digital systems, but you could cause interference to the emergency services.
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5km range depending on the environment and terrain.
Upto 8 channels combination
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It won't make any difference using another brand. These PMR446 radios only have 16 frequencies they can use and you cannot t change the frequency. At this level they are basic analog radios and different makes and models will still work on the same frequencies. There is a "sub channel" mode on some but that only hides the signal from other radios not set to the same sub channel. If two radios on the same frequency but different sub channels transmit there will still be interference.
Easiest legal way around it is to look at a uk simple licenced set of radios they can still suffer from no free channels but the people who use there professional frequencies tend to be less in number and the radios can be a more expensive. The licence is £75 for five years.
If you camp outside the UK forget using other frequencies. Radio laws differ widely in Europe but the PMR446s are pretty much the only EU wide licence free option and you should stick to them to avoid issues.
There are other ways such as using the cheaper end China ham radios and setting them to frequencies assigned to other users. Chances of being caught are low but if you are the fines are high and you may end up interfering with the emergency services.
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I'm thinking of looking into another not so common model.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/2-x-baofeng-walkie-talkie-uhf-400-470mhz-2-way-radio-18-95-delivered-playtech-ebay-2624936
It won't make any difference using another brand. These PMR446 radios only have 16 frequencies they can use and you cannot t change the frequency. At this level they are basic analog radios and different makes and models will still work on the same frequencies. There is a "sub channel" mode on some but that only hides the signal from other radios not set to the same sub channel. If two radios on the same frequency but different sub channels transmit there will still be interference.
Easiest legal way around it is to look at a uk simple licenced set of radios they can still suffer from no free channels but the people who use there professional frequencies tend to be less in number and the radios can be a more expensive. The licence is £75 for five years.
If you camp outside the UK forget using other frequencies. Radio laws differ widely in Europe but the PMR446s are pretty much the only EU wide licence free option and you should stick to them to avoid issues.
There are other ways such as using the cheaper end China ham radios and setting them to frequencies assigned to other users. Chances of being caught are low but if you are the fines are high and you may end up interfering with the emergency services.
We will prob just put up with these ones as did not really want to spend hundreds as they are only really for when the children go to the play area/toilet on their own as we are letting them have a little more freedom round the campsite.
Thanks.
privacy mode.
all day long.
Privacy mode usually refers to the sub channels, assuming you have both radios set to the same sub channel here the radio mixes into your speech a low frequency audio tone. The receiver will mute out any transmitting on the same frequency that don't have that sub tone present.
It's not really a "privacy mode" there is no privacy at all. If you tell you radio to ignore sub channels you will hear anything on that frequency regardless of what the transmitter has sent as a privacy code setting.
You might get voice inversion but that's only a case of filtering the audio but that's very weak. Any radio that does it can also convert it back to listen on anyone's calls.
Go to digital pmr446 and you can on more expensive units get an encryption boards that do some basic scrambling. Certainly enough to make the audio illegible to the average user.
However none of this gets round the fact there are only a small number of freqencies to use. Privacy mode or encryption actually makes it more likely two people will be transmitting at the same time as the sub channel/scrambling may mean the user may not even know someone else outside their group is already transmitting in the same channel.
Live speech apps have their uses, two way radios have their uses. It's a case of the right tool for the job.
As I mentioned earlier chances of being caught are low but the frequencies these generally come preset with are problematical. Every abode get I've had fromChina came with at lease on one frequency that was assigned to the mergency services. You can't listen to them as they use encrypted digital systems, but you could cause interference to the emergency services.
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