Probably a bit too late for the heatwave but still worth purchasing (efficient heating for winter also). I went for 2x of the dual "easy fit" units for 4 rooms so needed an engineer install, but you can fit these "quick fit" units yourself as the pipe is pre-gassed and the connection uses the quick fit clamps. (I fitted one of these at my old place years ago when B&Q sold their Airforce units).
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DSantini to Bitbotbang
22 Jun 176#35
So you don't own a BBQ, you don't have a patio you don't have any decking, you don't go on holiday and you don't own any Christmas decorations? Weird.
DSantini to awastedyouth
22 Jun 174#13
They're not disposable, you can use them next year and the year after. Massive exaggeration to say only a few days per year. Worth the money just for a perfect night's sleep all this week let alone additional days, and for "occasional" heating when it's not cold enough to fire up the central heating.
DSantini
22 Jun 174#7
Wrong, wrong, wrong. That's 3.4 kW of heating capacity not electricity consumption.
Heat pumps don't work like that.
With heat pumps and heating you get 3 times the efficiency of a conventional electrical heating.
These work out to be around 3.4 kW of heating from 1 kW of electricity,
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mastablasta
22 Jun 171#1
How effective are these in the winter? I haven't looked into them in detail but I thought they had a cut off minimum temperature and the efficiency is reduced in cold weather.
I would still like to install my house with them as hot water radiators see so old fashioned.
M_z to mastablasta
22 Jun 17#4
I could be wrong, but you would need to combine this with a ground source of heat to even contemplate replacing traditional central heating - and these will cost thousands and require a suitable garden.
Aeschylus to mastablasta
22 Jun 171#6
They are 3.4KW, so that is like leaving your kettle running all day, will cost you a small fortune... at 3.4KW for 8 hours a day (depending on your electric rate) you are looking at £100 a month for one
at 12p a Unit electric, you are probably paying more
3.4 x 8 = 27.2 x 0.12 = £3.26 per day
Brownbloke11 to mastablasta
22 Jun 17#27
They do have a cut-off - usually just above freezing. We use one and it does heat even if very cold outside but if it is below zero outside then you need other forms of heating or a ground source unit that takes heat from down in the ground. Great for quickly taking the chill off one room if you need to and don't want to heat the whole house, but more useful as a cooling unit
ibzman
22 Jun 17#2
Just to note does not come with remote or wall bracket. Have to purchase separately.
DSantini to ibzman
22 Jun 17#3
Remote included, wall bracket optional (can be bolted to the floor).
What's in the box?
The eIQ-9WMINVQC Quick Connector DC Inverter is comprised of two main units. There is the internal unit which is mounted on the wall of the room you wish to cool supplied with an indoor wall bracket, and then the corresponding external unit (called the condenser) which sits on the ground or on a wall bracket (can be supplied separately if required ) on the outside. A 4 metre coil of interconnecting copper pipe, electrical cable and a remote control also comes in the box.
You can use the supplied remote control to set your desired temperature and then let the air conditioner automatically regulate the heat throughout the day at a maintained level, without having to change settings yourself. Many of our customers are now installing these super inverter air conditioners for their impressive heating ability as well the cooling.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. That's 3.4 kW of heating capacity not electricity consumption.
Heat pumps don't work like that.
With heat pumps and heating you get 3 times the efficiency of a conventional electrical heating.
These work out to be around 3.4 kW of heating from 1 kW of electricity,
Aeschylus
22 Jun 17#8
ah ok, I worked it out on usual consumption then, so working on your theory of 1KW, you are looking at £35 ish a month, still expensive for 1 room per month, and that is based on 8 hours, and if these are like normal convection heaters where the room goes cold almost instantly you turn them off they will consume more than 8 hours?
nousernamesavailableaaagh
22 Jun 17#9
Similar available from CPC also - £414 including VAT and free delivery
A few days in the low 30s and everyone rushes out to buy air conditioners. We might have another few days in August tho... :smile:
DSantini to awastedyouth
22 Jun 174#13
They're not disposable, you can use them next year and the year after. Massive exaggeration to say only a few days per year. Worth the money just for a perfect night's sleep all this week let alone additional days, and for "occasional" heating when it's not cold enough to fire up the central heating.
DSantini
22 Jun 17#11
That's not "quick fit", you'll need an engineer install (£300+). Appliances Direct have cheaper non-quick fit units too.
freakstyler
22 Jun 17#12
Some of the houses here have split system heat pumps installed even though all the properties have gas central heating. From what I've been told they're good but most people only use them for cooling in the summer months.
What would be the actual consumption when cooling. It just seems to quote 'nominal' figures, thanks
DSantini
22 Jun 17#17
Not "quick-fit" so requires an engineer install and only 8000BTU/2kW cooling.
These are simple to fit, basically just drill a hole in the wall with a holesaw, pass pipe through the wall and connect. No vacuum pump/pressure testing required.
Would this be enough to put on the landing with 3 bedroom doors open to have an effect? Thanks for the post anyway, interested in this type of air can at the moment , was looking at the LG Artcool.
Brownbloke11 to deeperthought
22 Jun 17#26
Not really - we have tried it - suppose it depends on how hot the landing is, and how big, etc. but bear in mind cold air falls so it basically goes downstairs and cools down there. If you want all bedrooms cooled, either fit 3 or get dual ones (one external unit) or portables. The more complex ones will need fitting professionally due to current regs.
Rick.Ward to deeperthought
22 Jun 171#44
Yes. We have one in one room, when there's hot weather we turn in on at 16 deg C, leave the doors open and it will get several rooms to a comfortable temperature in a few hours. We leave it on all night sometimes. Even when it's 30C outside most of the house is lovely and cool.
BigG9262
22 Jun 171#19
These are great for conservatories,bro has one and he can set it to 20 degrees and it will sit at that all year long if required.
pants2000 to BigG9262
22 Jun 17#20
pants2000
22 Jun 17#21
How has he got it fitted in there?
alexjascott
22 Jun 17#22
Looks a good price - how much did it cost to get someone to fit?
Leery24
22 Jun 17#23
Is this actually a good price or is it just being voted hot because of the temperature outside.
These air-source heat pumps will work even down to around -20 to -30, I use Panasonic one in Finland and it's fine around -10 or so.
Relatively warm UK winter temps mean there's plenty of heat in the outside air so they are great for here. No need to dig up the garden and all the expense of ground source.
Shengis
22 Jun 17#29
So take 1kw of that output and feed it back into the machine, use the other 2.4kw for heating, free heating :smiley:
Troll science, aka overunity, ftw :laughing:
englands28
22 Jun 171#30
Best thing I ever did was put this in my conservatory, cools from 50 degrees to 20 degrees in 1/2 hr then I open the patio doors that lead to the conservatory and it cools the living room as well.
You need the correct BTU though!
Now looking to do the bedrooms and not have to sleep at 28 degrees- nightmare!
hullu
22 Jun 17#31
The SCOP figure gives you the efficiency, so 5.6 means 1kw input and up to 5.6kw out, depending on prevailing air temp. Its really simple science, you just refrigerate the outside air, so you just run an electric compressor motor instead of burning loads of electricity in an electric element.
Inverter means the motor also slows depending on load saving even more power.
cezar91
22 Jun 17#32
it was pre-charged. I installed it myself.
pants2000
22 Jun 17#33
Bitbotbang
22 Jun 17#34
WHY and WHY would I buy something I use for a few days in the year??? £500 for at the most 10 days use a year! Someone please pinch me!!!!! Am I in the right century???
DSantini to Bitbotbang
22 Jun 176#35
So you don't own a BBQ, you don't have a patio you don't have any decking, you don't go on holiday and you don't own any Christmas decorations? Weird.
englands28
22 Jun 17#36
I put the outside unit at the side of the conservatory and then piped in on the house wall , fitted the unit to the wall then the house wall I fitted 3x2 wood to the wall and then put plaster board over it so I could hide all the pipe work.
I did the whole back wall and then got it plastered.
You could run the pipe behind the skirting board then go straight up to the unit and just hide the pipe with a section of plaster board so it sort of looks like a chimney breast wall, just a idea. Not sure with buildings regs if you could go behind the skirting board. Just don't whack a nail through it.
Bitbotbang
22 Jun 17#37
Some of us like to live in the real world. If you lived in a nice area like where we live, you would not need all these cr*p you buy!
bbdom
22 Jun 17#38
"*These units contain a gas governed by
F-Gas regulations. The gas must be handled by qualified F-Gas personnel.
2 year warranty is subject to commissioning by qualified F-Gas
engineers. 5 years extended parts warranty is subject to annual service."
englands28
22 Jun 17#39
So I couldn't use air conditioning in the winter as a dehumidifier, can't use it in the winter as a heater and can't use it in the summer to cool the house. Even nice areas have damp , hot and cold weather ! That's the real world !
slojo
22 Jun 17#40
Good deal. Voted cold :sunglasses:
DSantini
22 Jun 17#41
People in nice areas have air con. Why are you on a "deals" site if you don't want to buy anything? May explain your lack of contributions, zero deals in three years?
patrick_000
22 Jun 171#42
I'm currently replacing two gas heaters in my house in New Zealand with heat pumps like this. They give you aircon in summer and heating in winter. And work out similar price to gas in nz. They aren't much good in climates where it gets very cold - the temp range varies according to model. So if you're on the south coast where you rarely get snow or London then you should be fine.
hullu to patrick_000
22 Jun 172#43
I must digress on cold climates, we use them in Scandinavia no probs . Mitsubishis for example work down to -30 deg C.
Most of my neighbours in Finland now have them.
deeperthought
22 Jun 17#45
Thanks sounds good.
deeperthought
22 Jun 17#46
To do list: Need to invent an air con/ pool heater all-one-unit.
ibzman
23 Jun 17#47
Yes that is in the blurb but if you read the faq it states
23/08/2015 Dobby: Does the kit include remote control and wall mounting bracket?
jasoncooper: no remote control and the wall bracket is seperate
So it may have what you say but will need someone to confirm as conflicting info.
UZOR
23 Jun 17#48
It depends on 2 things. the heating/cooling load of the room in which it's installed (Watts per square meter per difference in indoor and outdoor temperture(delta T) ) 2. The effieciency of the unit at a given delta T.
Because temperatures outside vary all the time projections about consumption are given as nominal figures which make assumptions about how long the unit will operate for and at what temperature differentials. These may or may not be figures that reflect your usage scenario in the UK.
OrribleHarry
23 Jun 171#49
Doesn't sound like a nice area to me if you're restricted in what you can buy.
DSantini
23 Jun 17#50
Saw that, it's a mistake (cal them and they'll confirm). Would be highly unusual for an A/C unit to have no remote (as you wouldn't be able to use it).
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Top comments
Heat pumps don't work like that.
With heat pumps and heating you get 3 times the efficiency of a conventional electrical heating.
These work out to be around 3.4 kW of heating from 1 kW of electricity,
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I would still like to install my house with them as hot water radiators see so old fashioned.
at 12p a Unit electric, you are probably paying more
3.4 x 8 = 27.2 x 0.12 = £3.26 per day
What's in the box?
The eIQ-9WMINVQC Quick Connector DC Inverter is comprised of two main units. There is the internal unit which is mounted on the wall of the room you wish to cool supplied with an indoor wall bracket, and then the corresponding external unit (called the condenser) which sits on the ground or on a wall bracket (can be supplied separately if required ) on the outside. A 4 metre coil of interconnecting copper pipe, electrical cable and a remote control also comes in the box.
You can use the supplied remote control to set your desired temperature and then let the air conditioner automatically regulate the heat throughout the day at a maintained level, without having to change settings yourself. Many of our customers are now installing these super inverter air conditioners for their impressive heating ability as well the cooling.
Heat pumps don't work like that.
With heat pumps and heating you get 3 times the efficiency of a conventional electrical heating.
These work out to be around 3.4 kW of heating from 1 kW of electricity,
Your text here
https://www.carltonsales.co.uk/hitachi-summit-rak-18pec-air-conditioning-system.html
These are simple to fit, basically just drill a hole in the wall with a holesaw, pass pipe through the wall and connect. No vacuum pump/pressure testing required.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDXEQpE1xwM
http://ecoairdirect.com/air-conditioning/split-air-conditioning/bravo-range/inverter-air-conditioning-9000btu-bravo-inverter-mk2-eco916sd-mk2.html
I'm using the 12000BTU model for about 4 years now and I cannot really complain.
When cooling is set to lowest settings, it takes around 500W. I have installed it in my bedroom only. We turn it on 1hr before going to bed and leave on around 22-23 degrees which is perfect temperature for sleeping.
Relatively warm UK winter temps mean there's plenty of heat in the outside air so they are great for here. No need to dig up the garden and all the expense of ground source.
Troll science, aka overunity, ftw :laughing:
You need the correct BTU though!
Now looking to do the bedrooms and not have to sleep at 28 degrees- nightmare!
Inverter means the motor also slows depending on load saving even more power.
I did the whole back wall and then got it plastered.
You could run the pipe behind the skirting board then go straight up to the unit and just hide the pipe with a section of plaster board so it sort of looks like a chimney breast wall, just a idea. Not sure with buildings regs if you could go behind the skirting board. Just don't whack a nail through it.
F-Gas regulations. The gas must be handled by qualified F-Gas personnel.
2 year warranty is subject to commissioning by qualified F-Gas
engineers. 5 years extended parts warranty is subject to annual service."
Most of my neighbours in Finland now have them.
23/08/2015 Dobby: Does the kit include remote control and wall mounting bracket?
jasoncooper: no remote control and the wall bracket is seperate
So it may have what you say but will need someone to confirm as conflicting info.
Because temperatures outside vary all the time projections about consumption are given as nominal figures which make assumptions about how long the unit will operate for and at what temperature differentials. These may or may not be figures that reflect your usage scenario in the UK.