This.

Even £5000 scopes won't give you colour images to the naked eye, just brighter grey smudges as opposed to dimmer grey smudges. you'll need a proper mount, small refractor, with mono camera, software, guider, lrgb filters, Photoshop, deep pockets and a s**t load of patience to get something Hubble like.

And then you find out the UK gets about 20 nights a year where you get really decent seeing, and of those 20 you'll find youll be on holiday or need to be up for work at tw@ o'clock. So 5 nights a year realistically. Then you find you need to do windows updates before you start, or camera won't talk to sharpcap, or the ascom driver fails, or your polar alignment is crap, plate solving not working....

Quite possibly the most frustrating money pit of a hobby imaginable. I wish I never looked up sometimes :wink:

Please don't. I am a bit of a star gazer and have 3 telescopes. These are very poor quality. The RRP's are not representative of what you should get the for the money.

Agree with Lonebod. I'm also an astronomer and I would say these are a complete, utter waste of money. It's not true that you need a huge aperture 'scope to look at the night sky, but there is a certain minimum quality these just don't make. About the best starter scope you can get - not too expensive, optically good and dead easy to use - is the Skywatcher Heritage 130p. Buy from a decent supplier such as this lot:

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes/skywatcher-heritage-130p-flextube.html

It has enough aperture to let in sufficent light to see some interesting stuff. Just don't expect Hubble like views.

How many friends do you have that have ordered telescopes? Did they all just decide to get into stargazing or something?

Awful awful awful scopes.

As others have said, either spend a bit extra for a Celestron or Skywatcher or save your cash. A decent pair of binoculars would probably be a better option fir most casual astronomers.

Surprised so much negative reaction. I have had a pair of Bushnell binoculars for over 20 odd years found them excellent.
Maybe now everything is made in China reflects in the quality.

absolutely spot on! been there done that too with a heq5

This listing is complete junk, dont do it.

Even the most expensive one has awful reviews on Amazon. I would stay away from this deal.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bushnell-789946-Voyager-Reflector-Telescope/dp/B004P0JG74

well its a shame that the earth is actually flat, and planets are not really light years away, im sorry gents these telescopes aint no ticket to far away galaxies,

Typo? Celestron 12x70, maybe. The first number is the magnification, the second the aperture. Celestron 12x70 are usually about £75 new. If you want 20x magnification, more common is 20x80. Typical cost is about £120, but you WILL need a tripod for 20x magnification.

im pretty sure all the ones in the deal are crappy

I just bought some Celestron Cometron 20x70 binoculars from Ebay for £50 odd pound and they're really good. Thats a great place to start if you're new. Or you can jump right in and pick up a Heritage 130p as mentioned for £137.

This.

Even £5000 scopes won't give you colour images to the naked eye, just brighter grey smudges as opposed to dimmer grey smudges. you'll need a proper mount, small refractor, with mono camera, software, guider, lrgb filters, Photoshop, deep pockets and a s**t load of patience to get something Hubble like.

And then you find out the UK gets about 20 nights a year where you get really decent seeing, and of those 20 you'll find youll be on holiday or need to be up for work at tw@ o'clock. So 5 nights a year realistically. Then you find you need to do windows updates before you start, or camera won't talk to sharpcap, or the ascom driver fails, or your polar alignment is crap, plate solving not working....

Quite possibly the most frustrating money pit of a hobby imaginable. I wish I never looked up sometimes :wink:

Agree with Lonebod. I'm also an astronomer and I would say these are a complete, utter waste of money. It's not true that you need a huge aperture 'scope to look at the night sky, but there is a certain minimum quality these just don't make. About the best starter scope you can get - not too expensive, optically good and dead easy to use - is the Skywatcher Heritage 130p. Buy from a decent supplier such as this lot:

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes/skywatcher-heritage-130p-flextube.html

It has enough aperture to let in sufficent light to see some interesting stuff. Just don't expect Hubble like views.

Please don't. I am a bit of a star gazer and have 3 telescopes. These are very poor quality. The RRP's are not representative of what you should get the for the money.

Poor quality.

Get a Celestron or something you can mount a camera to.

will this give me a close look at uranus.

poor customer service from this bunch

Ok thank you for the information.

£52 one is the 789931 model selling on Amazon for £117,now the bad news reviews are poor and these are poor sellers

still good to go by the looks of it,not surprising really not many stargazers on hukd or anywhere in UK .for that matter,would buy myself as it looks value for money but selling them on would be a long slow slog.

Is the telescope priced at £49.99 any good? Or have they got inflated rrps?

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