I have a car which uses Adblue (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) to keep emissions legal (Euro6); most newer diesels will need it too. Last year I had to top it up for the first time and this deal got some interest then so, having used that supply up, I've found Unipart's deal is still the best. Cheapest if you can collect from store but I've ordered two 10 litre cans for the single shipment price of £3.75, which seems OK given the size/weight of them.
Car takes 12 litres to fill. Local franchised dealer wanted £3.50/litre to fill it bulk in their workshop or £8 for each 1.89 litre bottle to 'take away'. Terrible rip off and I've heard some places charge much more. Shell fuel station wanted £10 for 1.89 litres!
I did some shopping around and cheapest place I could find on the high street was Halfords: £14.99 for 4 litres.
Internet search came up with Unipart Autostore still doing a half price deal: £9.99 for a full 10 litres. Cheaper than the others by mile.
Consumption varies according to vehicle usage but I'm finding my car uses a litre in around 1,000 miles. It's a bit of a pain having to use this stuff but it makes a massive difference to the emissions and these Euro6 vehicles really aren't the villains that earlier diesels can be.
ordered 2 for £9.18 each with 5.25% cashback on top = £8.72 for 10 litres
Your local Peugeot dealer will top up your AdBlue® tank with 10 litres of fluid for a fixed price of £9.99, if a top up is needed before the scheduled service.
Contact your local Peugeot dealer to arrange a refill as soon as necessary. This is a quick and simple thing to do, so we offer it as part of our while-you-wait service.
jamgin
25 Jun 173#44
Ride a bicycle.
Only emmisions from my cycling commute to work is from eating too many beans the night before... :confused:
So, Adblue removes one of the primary concerns of diesel emmisions.
2) New petrols actually emmit 10x MORE particulates than modern diesel engines.
Following extract is taken from http://articles.sae.org/13624/
Facinating that diesels are getting cleaner and cleaner and petrols are getting dirtier and dirtier.
Shame that none of this is common knowledge, and the headline that gets pushed everywhere is "Diesel is bad"
The government are thinking about pushing people away from diesels to modern petrols, and are making a huge mistake if they choose to do so.
Like I said in post: used that up and this was still the best deal I could find. There must be a lot more cars out there needing it now and it's a shock the first time the warning light comes on and you discover how much some places charge. It takes a minimum of 4 litres to put the light out on mine so if i don't plan ahead it would cost around £30 just to do that a fuel station.
TheBiker
25 Jun 177#2
Buy a petrol car - SORTED.
lukehunter69 to TheBiker
25 Jun 17#22
Given your username, shouldn't you be advocating motorbikes? :man:
Your local Peugeot dealer will top up your AdBlue® tank with 10 litres of fluid for a fixed price of £9.99, if a top up is needed before the scheduled service.
Contact your local Peugeot dealer to arrange a refill as soon as necessary. This is a quick and simple thing to do, so we offer it as part of our while-you-wait service.
Besford
25 Jun 171#7
Thanks. That link seems to be at least 3 years old - will they still do it for £9.99 and will they do it for other makes?
bigwheels
25 Jun 17#8
My peugeot is a 66 plate so i have not checked yet.
I have printed this off to hand in if I need a refil.To get the price on their web site.
I dont think they will do it at this price for non peugeots.
It would just be a quick call to find out ?.
Stu
25 Jun 172#9
If you have access to Halfords Trade it's £10.50 for 10 Ltrs.
flipper118
25 Jun 17#10
I've had this warning message pop up on my 10 months old Audi Q3 about Adblue, and to be brutally frank I haven't a clue what it means. Where does one apply the aforementioned 'Adblue'?
pothole to flipper118
25 Jun 17#13
Depends on the make and model. Some have it in the boot, some have it next to the diesel inlet on the side of the car.
The cap is coloured blue if that helps.
10 litres for £10.44 delivered free from Carpartsforless. See link carparts4less
Still have voted hot, as this is a good deal compaired to rip off dealers.
bigwheels
25 Jun 17#14
Just googled it and it's next to the diesel cap. A little blue cap. I think you fill it up then turn on ignition for 30 secs to reset it. Then start car.
bigwheels
25 Jun 17#15
Audi want £1.50 a litre to fill u up inc vat and labour.
"Aldi want £1.50 a litre to fill u up inc vat and labour." Didn't know Aldi serviced Audi.
Mouloudia
25 Jun 171#17
add code: WEEKEND12 for 12% off
Mouloudia
25 Jun 17#18
20L for £18.37 delivered
luvsadealdealdeal
25 Jun 17#19
yep ordered 2 for £9.18 each with 5.25% cashback on top = £8.72 for 10 litres
much better than OP's deal
luvsadealdealdeal
25 Jun 17#20
don't forget your cashback! :smiley:
luvsadealdealdeal
25 Jun 17#21
already tracked on tcb :smiley:
jhw
25 Jun 173#23
Seems a retrograde step having to put this sort of stuff in a car.
fishmaster to jhw
25 Jun 171#28
The main reason to own a diesel car is long mileage efficiency of which it's still the number one power source. Hybrid cars and electric are better around town and for anything under 15K miles a year, then it's petrol. I do 7K miles a year, a diesel would be a very stupid purchase for me. The number 1 problem with diesel cars is emissions, driving a diesel car means you're contributing to respiratory illness.
The diesel boom started in the 1990's and was supported by the governments of the time, now we have more data they want to reduce the amount of diesel traffic on the roads due to adverse affect on the health of the population.
The reason for Adblue and BlueTec aqueous solutions is to try and reduce known health risks of diesel cars. It should be obvious that driving a diesel car is a public health nuisance. Many people invested in diesel won't like this evidence and will refute it, due to financial and cognitive factors, no one likes to learn that they made a purchase which has negative connotations to it.
It's entirely unrealistic to ban diesel transport from roads, as there's no effective alternative solution as of yet, a diesel scrappage scheme is costly and politics gets in the way. My last diesel car purchase was in 2008 and I will never be buying one again for any reason, that's because I can afford not to require one, many other people aren't in this position.
So, Adblue removes one of the primary concerns of diesel emmisions.
2) New petrols actually emmit 10x MORE particulates than modern diesel engines.
Following extract is taken from http://articles.sae.org/13624/
Facinating that diesels are getting cleaner and cleaner and petrols are getting dirtier and dirtier.
Shame that none of this is common knowledge, and the headline that gets pushed everywhere is "Diesel is bad"
The government are thinking about pushing people away from diesels to modern petrols, and are making a huge mistake if they choose to do so.
TheBiker
25 Jun 17#24
LOOK AT THE AVATAR
ran123ran
25 Jun 17#26
I have 15 reg diesel focus....i havent seen anything in the manuals rs addung this stuff...i take it doesnt apply to all disels
OrribleHarry to ran123ran
25 Jun 17#35
Only euro 6 with the additional tank for it.
luvsadealdealdeal
25 Jun 17#27
haha!
luvsadealdealdeal
25 Jun 17#29
nope - the number 1 problem is diesel is 1p more expensive than petrol
anonymousmackem
25 Jun 17#30
picked this up in a Tesco fuel station last week £8 for 10 ltr
The-Stranger
25 Jun 17#31
petrol gives its own emissions which are just as bad
rickj to The-Stranger
25 Jun 17#34
Quite correct ,if diesels are so polluting why is car tax system based on lowest emissions lowest payment Eg.
VW golf R32 450 a year .
Renault Clio DCI .20 a year .
Based on co2 emission.
99% of goods delivered by derv vehicle ,not seen a petrol lgv vehicle .
Yes ban old buses spewing fumes with 2 people on between 10 and 3.
These reports are scaremongering ,how else will we move goods without derv wagon.
lukehunter69
25 Jun 17#32
I had to put my monocle on first! :man:
Now where did "TheCar-er" go with his motorcycle avatar...
Broxy
25 Jun 17#33
My work sells it me for 40p a litre
118luke
25 Jun 17#37
Land Rover fill mine up as part of the service plan (and free top-ups when needed) :smiley:
monkeyhanger75
25 Jun 171#39
Are petrol cars any cleaner in reality? After a string of diesels, 4 with DPF) I have had a Golf R for the past 2 years. Pre-DPF diesels give out particulates and pretty much no NOx, DPF equipped diesels run hotter to help the DPF warm up and stay hot enough to combust the captured particulates - by running hotter, NOx is formed. Pre-DPF diesels and petrol engines run cool enough to not form NOx. Most direct injected petrol cars give out finer soot particles which are more mobile than those given out by pre-DPF, meaning they get deeper into the lungs when you breathe them in. My R has sooty exhaust tips, its predecessor (a GTD) did not. See the sooty exhaust tips on plenty of other cars too (Minis, Fords, Vauxhalls etc.)
Arguable, a bang-up-to-date DPF diesel with Adblue requirements is cleaner than a bang-up-to-date direct injection petrol car. £1-2 spend per 1000 miles on Adblue is nowt to worry about.
monkeyhanger75
25 Jun 17#40
Electric is just as polluting when you take into account manufacturing requirements for those batteries and the fact that we don't generate much of our electricity via hydroelectric dams, solar, wind power etc. If everyone switched to electric within the next 5 years, this country's national grid would be on its knees.
OrribleHarry
25 Jun 17#41
Not strictly true yes the batteries require specific resources. But this is more than offset by the fact the car itself never emits any pollution. Over its lifetime it's much more environmentally friendly than an ICE which emits hundreds of kilograms of pollution, and that's not including oil changes etc.
There is no reason why an Electric car can't have all its electric generated by your own solar/wind generation.
monkeyhanger75
25 Jun 17#43
Windfarms at home aren't practical for most, nor are they as efficient as solar. If you work normal days, you won't be generating your own juice by solar while you and your car are at work, you'll be supplying the grid at pitiful buy rates (unless you were one of the first to go solar and locked a good tariff rate in) - then buying your overnight electricity at normal rates. Poor range is still the norm on electric cars, more so in Winter, and the cost of replacing these batteries at 6-8 years old is likely to cost more than the car is worth. Take into account the battery running costs (putting a little by for replacement or rental of the battery, and those fuel savings soon disappear).
One day electric might be teh way to go, not yet though for most.
jamgin
25 Jun 173#44
Ride a bicycle.
Only emmisions from my cycling commute to work is from eating too many beans the night before... :confused:
delboyd to jamgin
25 Jun 17#54
Definitely practical for me to ride an 80 mile round trip :smile:
andysfast to jamgin
26 Jun 17#55
What type of greenhouse ass gas emissions does it give off if you ignite it.
OrribleHarry
25 Jun 17#45
The technology is available now.
I have 4kw of solar on our roof, they generate enough to power my wife's leaf doing 1,000 miles a month.
Say the batteries do need replaced after 8 years at a cost of £4k that's still only £500 a year. An ICE car doing this many miles costs £1500 a year to run, a leaf doing the same (if paying) costs £350 a year so each year you could still save £650 a year.
That is if you can live with the 155 miles maximum range, which as a second car ours never does more than this in a day.
Leafs can be had a year old for very reasonable prices indeed.
Its very important to understand that the ad-blue does not go in the fuel tank,its for the exhaust and nothing to do with the engine.
ninjin
25 Jun 17#48
Cheapest place for 10litres of adblue is Scania Trucks parts dept. If you have a Scania Service centre, then there will always be a parts dept attached. I have been buying 10l of adblue from them for the past 18months and it's always been around £8.70 incl vat.
crazylegs
25 Jun 17#49
Thats AUDIi you plank not ALDI
Besford
25 Jun 17#50
Truck Adblue is delivered under pressure - car manufacturers specifically warn against using those pumps!
Besford
25 Jun 17#51
Mine's under the bonnet and coloured black!
READ THE HANDBOOK!
Besford
25 Jun 171#52
AUDI even! :laughing:
shadey12
25 Jun 171#53
it's a trickle, if in doubt, use a container.
it comes out slow and knocks off just like a normal fuel pump.
obsydian
26 Jun 17#56
New diesels are as good as petrol just some people wanna make money like y2k and climate change
Broxy
26 Jun 17#57
Very true. Well our pump it comes out a trickle anyway lol
bedlyblue
26 Jun 17#58
Just shove some de ionised water in :wink:
fishmaster
26 Jun 171#59
They're only taking CO2 emissions in to account not particulate emissions, the science behind this is not scaremongering. You're correct there's not an alternative to derv for many applications, high mileage driving and heavy goods vehicles for example. The solution currently if the government would man up is to reduce/remove the unnecessary derv vehicles of which there are plenty.
monkeyhanger75
26 Jun 17#60
If you think you can get 155 miles out of a Leaf with a new and healthy battery then you're dreaming, 110 miles in the Summer and 85 in the Winter is more like it.
A 50mpg diesel costs £99 to go 1000 miles if you get Diesel at my local Costco, that's less than £1200 a year. A Leaf takes 30kWh to do 100 miles, at 11p per kWh on a decent tariff (without Solar), that's £33 per 1000 miles, factor in the monthly cost of your battery replacement spread over 8 years, that's about £42 a month. Brings the running cost of that leaf up to £75 a month. So you're £24 a month better off with the Leaf, assuming your Leaf doesn't depreciate quicker than the Diesel (which it may well do). When you buy a new car, depreciation is by far the biggest running cost unless you are buying a Duster or Suzuki Alto.
Similar sums with something like a 1.4TSI 150ps petrol Cylinder on demand VAG that can also average around 50mpg.
If you're not using the electricity as you're generating it (because you're out at work), the current GT and FIT is pretty poor.
We're in a prime location for solar (SSW facing, with absolutely nothing in front of us), but those solar panels are pretty ugly unless they flush fitted into the roof (like a few new builds), but with the running cost of the system (inverters etc.) and installation costs, as well as pretty poor GT and FIT, the payback period was way too long to consider. Very early adopters got ridiculously good tariffs (which everyone else is subsidising).
OrribleHarry
26 Jun 17#61
Your information is flawed my tariff is 7.9p per Kwh and only just today I achieved 128 miles on a full charge.
That's 128 miles for £2.37 so less than 2p a mile (that's excluding solar return) yes it does around 85 miles in the winter but averages well over 100 on a charge so say 2.37p a mile.
Even at 112p a litre works out £5.22 a gallon so around 10.5p a mile (around 4 times the cost) so at it's very cheapest over a thousand a year to run. But obviously diesel regularly goes up way beyond its current prices.
That's excluding the fact that a diesel cost around 4 times the cost to service, requires road tax etc.
Obviously I get a much bigger return as our solar returns slightly more than our leaf costs to run.
Think of it like this for a small £5k investment for solar we get 12,000 miles a year for free. Bearing in mind our leaf will get changed after 2 years (its on PCP) so batteries are irrelevant to us.
Stu
26 Jun 17#62
But in reality what use is 128 miles (worse if you only get 85 as I couldn't even get to work) to most people. I'm doing 15k+ a year and there are plenty of people doing more.
How long does it take you to charge it to get 128 miles??
OrribleHarry to Stu
26 Jun 17#63
Depending how you charge it. 60mins for DC public charging or 4hrs with 7kw home charger.
It's not our primary car, although it does far more miles than our diesel as we use the leaf constantly for local miles. I have a 535d as a long distance car.
Everyone's usage is different but as a second car for local miles/school runs etc they are superb.
monkeyhanger75
26 Jun 17#64
The Leaf isn't 4x cheaper to service than the wife's A1 1.6TDI, it's about the same (taking her £500/5 year service pack into account) - Leaf is about £90 first service/£150 second service. No road tax either, does 55mpg around the doors, similar output to yours, and on a long run (can't do a long run in a Leaf) doing 80mph all the way with the aircon on it averages over 70 mpg. The Leaf's range is hammered at 70-80mph (about 70 miles last Summer when I had a weekend test drive in one, it is surprisingly small inside, so the wife's A1 is a good comparison with the Leaf for both power and interior space) Costco is currently 107.9ppL for Diesel (9p per mile around the doors). The gap is nowhere near as big as you make out. You keep avoiding the mention of depreciation. You get a new car that depreciates £48 a month less than your Leaf and your savings are totally wiped out. I'm assuming your quoted cost of electricity is based on deducting your generation or feed in tariff, as i've not seen electricity that cheap for about 4 years. With Solar panels and no journeys longer than 80 miles, a Leaf might just about make sense, without Solar or free charging at work etc, there's nowt in it all in between a Leaf and a comparable output/size diesel that depreciates well.
OrribleHarry to monkeyhanger75
26 Jun 17#65
The leaf service from the supplying dealer costs £79 both first and second service.
As for size it is much bigger inside than an A1 interior space (boot aside) is similar to an astra.
As for tariffs I'm not sure you understand how FIT works? I just get £450odd a year paid into our bank which we use toward the energy bill.
The tarrif I'm on is still current it's with OVO energy and its the overnight price (it's timed to charge at midnight) I have not deducted my FIT payment from this, as I said it pays slightly more than the leaf uses. If I did include that I would have stated minus 0.3p a mile running cost.
Agreed its no vehicle for sitting at 80mph on the motorway as it was in no way designed to do so, our nearest motorway is 50miles away so it's never seen one, I wouldn't doubt a range of 70miles driving it in a manner like that.
But for long distances I use our BMW 535d which barely clears 40mpg but it is 313bhp.
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Car takes 12 litres to fill. Local franchised dealer wanted £3.50/litre to fill it bulk in their workshop or £8 for each 1.89 litre bottle to 'take away'. Terrible rip off and I've heard some places charge much more. Shell fuel station wanted £10 for 1.89 litres!
I did some shopping around and cheapest place I could find on the high street was Halfords: £14.99 for 4 litres.
Internet search came up with Unipart Autostore still doing a half price deal: £9.99 for a full 10 litres. Cheaper than the others by mile.
Consumption varies according to vehicle usage but I'm finding my car uses a litre in around 1,000 miles. It's a bit of a pain having to use this stuff but it makes a massive difference to the emissions and these Euro6 vehicles really aren't the villains that earlier diesels can be.
ordered 2 for £9.18 each with 5.25% cashback on top = £8.72 for 10 litres
much better than OP's deal
see thread
- luvsadealdealdeal
cheaper here http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/10-litres-adblue-needed-for-newer-diesel-cars-for-8-72-for-10-litres-carpartsforless-2725874
- luvsadealdealdeal
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http://www.peugeot.co.uk/adblue/
IMPORTANT POINTS
Your local Peugeot dealer will top up your AdBlue® tank with 10 litres of fluid for a fixed price of £9.99, if a top up is needed before the scheduled service.
Contact your local Peugeot dealer to arrange a refill as soon as necessary. This is a quick and simple thing to do, so we offer it as part of our while-you-wait service.
Only emmisions from my cycling commute to work is from eating too many beans the night before...
:confused:
1) Adblue is used in Euro 6 cars to virtually eliminate NOx emmisions.
Following Extract is taken fromhttp://www.lubricants.total.com/consumers/adblue-for-passenger-cars/adblue-faqs.html
So, Adblue removes one of the primary concerns of diesel emmisions.
2) New petrols actually emmit 10x MORE particulates than modern diesel engines.
Following extract is taken from http://articles.sae.org/13624/
Facinating that diesels are getting cleaner and cleaner and petrols are getting dirtier and dirtier.
Shame that none of this is common knowledge, and the headline that gets pushed everywhere is "Diesel is bad"
The government are thinking about pushing people away from diesels to modern petrols, and are making a huge mistake if they choose to do so.
All comments (65)
Electric is the future.
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-fluids/fuel-oil-additives/adblue-10-litre-can
http://www.peugeot.co.uk/adblue/
IMPORTANT POINTS
Your local Peugeot dealer will top up your AdBlue® tank with 10 litres of fluid for a fixed price of £9.99, if a top up is needed before the scheduled service.
Contact your local Peugeot dealer to arrange a refill as soon as necessary. This is a quick and simple thing to do, so we offer it as part of our while-you-wait service.
I have printed this off to hand in if I need a refil.To get the price on their web site.
I dont think they will do it at this price for non peugeots.
It would just be a quick call to find out ?.
The cap is coloured blue if that helps.
http://www.ajdor.co.uk/secondary/Adblue.htm
much cheaper
carparts4less
Still have voted hot, as this is a good deal compaired to rip off dealers.
https://www.audi.co.uk/owners-area/servicing-maintenance-mot/regular-maintenance/adblue.html
much better than OP's deal
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170522080928.htm
The diesel boom started in the 1990's and was supported by the governments of the time, now we have more data they want to reduce the amount of diesel traffic on the roads due to adverse affect on the health of the population.
The reason for Adblue and BlueTec aqueous solutions is to try and reduce known health risks of diesel cars. It should be obvious that driving a diesel car is a public health nuisance. Many people invested in diesel won't like this evidence and will refute it, due to financial and cognitive factors, no one likes to learn that they made a purchase which has negative connotations to it.
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/why-clean-cars/air-pollution-and-health/trucks-buses-and-other-commercial-vehicles/diesel-engines-and-public.html#.WVAOAcaZPuQ
It's entirely unrealistic to ban diesel transport from roads, as there's no effective alternative solution as of yet, a diesel scrappage scheme is costly and politics gets in the way. My last diesel car purchase was in 2008 and I will never be buying one again for any reason, that's because I can afford not to require one, many other people aren't in this position.
1) Adblue is used in Euro 6 cars to virtually eliminate NOx emmisions.
Following Extract is taken fromhttp://www.lubricants.total.com/consumers/adblue-for-passenger-cars/adblue-faqs.html
So, Adblue removes one of the primary concerns of diesel emmisions.
2) New petrols actually emmit 10x MORE particulates than modern diesel engines.
Following extract is taken from http://articles.sae.org/13624/
Facinating that diesels are getting cleaner and cleaner and petrols are getting dirtier and dirtier.
Shame that none of this is common knowledge, and the headline that gets pushed everywhere is "Diesel is bad"
The government are thinking about pushing people away from diesels to modern petrols, and are making a huge mistake if they choose to do so.
VW golf R32 450 a year .
Renault Clio DCI .20 a year .
Based on co2 emission.
99% of goods delivered by derv vehicle ,not seen a petrol lgv vehicle .
Yes ban old buses spewing fumes with 2 people on between 10 and 3.
These reports are scaremongering ,how else will we move goods without derv wagon.
Now where did "TheCar-er" go with his motorcycle avatar...
Arguable, a bang-up-to-date DPF diesel with Adblue requirements is cleaner than a bang-up-to-date direct injection petrol car. £1-2 spend per 1000 miles on Adblue is nowt to worry about.
There is no reason why an Electric car can't have all its electric generated by your own solar/wind generation.
One day electric might be teh way to go, not yet though for most.
Only emmisions from my cycling commute to work is from eating too many beans the night before...
:confused:
I have 4kw of solar on our roof, they generate enough to power my wife's leaf doing 1,000 miles a month.
Say the batteries do need replaced after 8 years at a cost of £4k that's still only £500 a year. An ICE car doing this many miles costs £1500 a year to run, a leaf doing the same (if paying) costs £350 a year so each year you could still save £650 a year.
That is if you can live with the 155 miles maximum range, which as a second car ours never does more than this in a day.
Leafs can be had a year old for very reasonable prices indeed.
£8.72
READ THE HANDBOOK!
it comes out slow and knocks off just like a normal fuel pump.
A 50mpg diesel costs £99 to go 1000 miles if you get Diesel at my local Costco, that's less than £1200 a year. A Leaf takes 30kWh to do 100 miles, at 11p per kWh on a decent tariff (without Solar), that's £33 per 1000 miles, factor in the monthly cost of your battery replacement spread over 8 years, that's about £42 a month. Brings the running cost of that leaf up to £75 a month. So you're £24 a month better off with the Leaf, assuming your Leaf doesn't depreciate quicker than the Diesel (which it may well do). When you buy a new car, depreciation is by far the biggest running cost unless you are buying a Duster or Suzuki Alto.
Similar sums with something like a 1.4TSI 150ps petrol Cylinder on demand VAG that can also average around 50mpg.
If you're not using the electricity as you're generating it (because you're out at work), the current GT and FIT is pretty poor.
We're in a prime location for solar (SSW facing, with absolutely nothing in front of us), but those solar panels are pretty ugly unless they flush fitted into the roof (like a few new builds), but with the running cost of the system (inverters etc.) and installation costs, as well as pretty poor GT and FIT, the payback period was way too long to consider. Very early adopters got ridiculously good tariffs (which everyone else is subsidising).
That's 128 miles for £2.37 so less than 2p a mile (that's excluding solar return) yes it does around 85 miles in the winter but averages well over 100 on a charge so say 2.37p a mile.
Even at 112p a litre works out £5.22 a gallon so around 10.5p a mile (around 4 times the cost) so at it's very cheapest over a thousand a year to run. But obviously diesel regularly goes up way beyond its current prices.
That's excluding the fact that a diesel cost around 4 times the cost to service, requires road tax etc.
Obviously I get a much bigger return as our solar returns slightly more than our leaf costs to run.
Think of it like this for a small £5k investment for solar we get 12,000 miles a year for free. Bearing in mind our leaf will get changed after 2 years (its on PCP) so batteries are irrelevant to us.
How long does it take you to charge it to get 128 miles??
It's not our primary car, although it does far more miles than our diesel as we use the leaf constantly for local miles. I have a 535d as a long distance car.
Everyone's usage is different but as a second car for local miles/school runs etc they are superb.
As for size it is much bigger inside than an A1 interior space (boot aside) is similar to an astra.
As for tariffs I'm not sure you understand how FIT works? I just get £450odd a year paid into our bank which we use toward the energy bill.
The tarrif I'm on is still current it's with OVO energy and its the overnight price (it's timed to charge at midnight) I have not deducted my FIT payment from this, as I said it pays slightly more than the leaf uses. If I did include that I would have stated minus 0.3p a mile running cost.
Agreed its no vehicle for sitting at 80mph on the motorway as it was in no way designed to do so, our nearest motorway is 50miles away so it's never seen one, I wouldn't doubt a range of 70miles driving it in a manner like that.
But for long distances I use our BMW 535d which barely clears 40mpg but it is 313bhp.