Been on the look out for a home alarm system to replace current one for some time.
Wanted something wireless and easy to fit, must have external siren, with phone / email notifications, remote arm/disarm and that could work with IFTTT or yonomi and compliment our blink camera system.
Not many around that fit the bill - majority of the 'smart' systems only have an internal alarm, ismartalarm which was my first choice still hasn't released an external siren in the UK, so this looks like the best value option.
This is compatible with the various HSA6000 addons like door sensors, keyfobs, PIR etc so easy to expand.
Comes with:
Alarm hub
Siren
Dummy siren
2 x PIR motion detectors
Door / window contact
Keypad
Fixings and batteries.
Seems to be £250+ in most other places so this looks a decent price imo.
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jaydeeuk1 to Infinitysecurity
12 May 175#14
Have you had experience of this system then, or is it just a generalisation?
Our expensive professionally installed system didn't last very long and when it did work it was iffy, so going the diy route. No need for contracts or servicing with these to keep up warranty , parts easy and cheap to replace and upgrade. Not saying you'd have an ulterior motive to knock these diy systems being a professional installer and all, but combined with my CCTV, motion activated lighting and water firing intruder detection system (or a garden cat water sprayer to you and me) I'm pretty confident it's enough of a deterrent to whatever p1key happens to be wandering through.
dilyes
15 May 174#24
I would read the 4th review:
" Alarm works well however:
The internal basestation has no sounder, and consequently:
1. The door sounders do not operate despite the software suggesting otherwise (option to turn door opening sounder exists)
2. There is no sound to warn on entry to disarm (a feature on every other alarm system on the market)
3. There is no audible indication that the alarm is set or disarmed
4. If the alarm sounds outside, there is no sounder inside so you don't know it's gone off. The outside alarm cannot be heard inside the house.
It needs a sounder inside the house. I would not have bought it had I realised there isn't no audible sounder inside. If someone was to break in during the night, we probably wouldn't hear the alarm go off. Very dissapointed. "
Dipbill to Infinitysecurity
13 May 173#15
I have a wireless Yale Ef premium, had it about 4 years. Have added a remote fob to activate it from upatairs and it currently has 3 IR room sensors and 2 door contacts.
No false alarms, lets you know when batteries need changing, and the sensors always work (I hate house alarms, we only have it to keep my OH quiet, and I always forget its on and set it off).
So I can certainly say that the one I have fitted is very reliable.
jaydeeuk1 to ben1979
12 May 173#3
Slightly different thing, no android integration email or sms alerts which I need.
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Interloper
18 May 17#49
People comparing this to things like the Response and Visonic alarms are missing the point. Those are both good conventional alarms but this is a Smartphone app-enabled alarm system with remote functionality for under £180! If all you want is to press buttons on a panel when you enter/exit the house then great. But this allows way more control from any location with an Internet connection.
I have the Yale EF Telecommunicating alarm and it's a superb system (connects to regular landline so no worries about 2G/GSM). I'd much prefer a 'smart' alarm like this, though, but the lack of an internal sounder was a dealbreaker. If you can live with that, it's a great deal.
J4Y_B
17 May 171#47
@jaydeeuk1 inspired me to find a new DiY alarm for my house - I've posted my potential purchase below for a HUKD roasting...:laughing:
Won't work if the UK shuts down the 2g network in 2020 (already happening in US)
Vodafone were planning on shutting down 2g network later this year, september/october time.
So that ruled out any of the 2g based sim card systems for me, no point if they have less than 3 years life in them
It uses a gsm sim and q&a indicates it has an internal alarm
unhappybunny
16 May 17#44
Id like to get this system, but I want an internal buzzer, and need 3 in total window/door things.
And also would like the option to extend to get CCTV linked in.
sundaydeals
16 May 17#43
Does this mean you have to keep the internet hub on all the time if you want to get phone (not just email) notifications?
unhappybunny
16 May 17#42
Is there any CCTV cameras compatible with this system
unhappybunny
16 May 17#41
So this deffo doesn't have an internal sounder for alarm?
trevor9
15 May 17#40
I've been sat on the fence looking at this alarm for months. This isn't a new price, but is a good offer.
My concern is that the system isn't forward compatible with future updates. However it currently does everything I want (zones, remote function via app, decent priced additional PIR's) ... so, I've committed to buying one!
gsusx
15 May 17#39
I already have the Yale wireless system with loads of pir and stuff. Would just love the ability to turn this on remotely (rather than the dial in function which is useful but a pain) if only I could add that bit of functionality.
J4Y_B
15 May 171#38
Dude, I ain't knocking you...I voted hot (but won't be buying) however for the last year or so HUKD has become a bit of a joke as its so inconsistent...I mean, STEAM deals get heat but when you post a Simplehuman bin deal (or any other premium product) you're a moron for spending too much on a bin...lol
p.s. I have a Simplehuman bin but have never posted a deal for one on here. haha
When I submitted this deal no other matches were found...
LordH
15 May 17#33
if you read the Yale website....the control panels do have built in sirens that can be configured on or off. some of these smart alarms are clearly smarter than their owners or potential owners who don't read the facts from a reputable source before commenting incorrectly
jaydeeuk1 to LordH
15 May 17#35
Not on this one though.
snoopy18
15 May 17#34
It means there is no internal alarm, then it depends how your house is set up .
I sleep in the back and with my last alarm when it was going off outside at the front of house I couldn't hear a thing
So replaced it With premium version
J4Y_B
15 May 171#32
Is this the exact same deal posted a month ago which got voted -66?
I would read the 4th review:
" Alarm works well however:
The internal basestation has no sounder, and consequently:
1. The door sounders do not operate despite the software suggesting otherwise (option to turn door opening sounder exists)
2. There is no sound to warn on entry to disarm (a feature on every other alarm system on the market)
3. There is no audible indication that the alarm is set or disarmed
4. If the alarm sounds outside, there is no sounder inside so you don't know it's gone off. The outside alarm cannot be heard inside the house.
It needs a sounder inside the house. I would not have bought it had I realised there isn't no audible sounder inside. If someone was to break in during the night, we probably wouldn't hear the alarm go off. Very dissapointed. "
SCOUSEKEVIN to dilyes
15 May 171#25
Well Spotted, this makes it a NO NO for me I will have another look at the PYRONIX ENFORCER systems which are supposed to be as good as it gets for wireless systems, my daughter and her motherin law have have them and they seem really reliable.
MK_Nath to dilyes
15 May 17#31
Is there a reason why it can't be heard inside the house if it's going all guns blazing on your exterior wall? Surely it's audible? I mean if it's on my wall below my bedroom then surely I'm going to hear that?
Powermax alarms are decent I know a guy who maintains over 40 of these as part of his company role. All he does for his money is change the batteries once a year. Very rare to get failures on them.
Infinitysecurity
12 May 17#13
I install service and repair alarms for a living. These systems are a cheap DIY alternative to a professional alarm. They are not very reliable which is not what you need as a security security system.
jaydeeuk1 to Infinitysecurity
12 May 175#14
Have you had experience of this system then, or is it just a generalisation?
Our expensive professionally installed system didn't last very long and when it did work it was iffy, so going the diy route. No need for contracts or servicing with these to keep up warranty , parts easy and cheap to replace and upgrade. Not saying you'd have an ulterior motive to knock these diy systems being a professional installer and all, but combined with my CCTV, motion activated lighting and water firing intruder detection system (or a garden cat water sprayer to you and me) I'm pretty confident it's enough of a deterrent to whatever p1key happens to be wandering through.
Dipbill to Infinitysecurity
13 May 173#15
I have a wireless Yale Ef premium, had it about 4 years. Have added a remote fob to activate it from upatairs and it currently has 3 IR room sensors and 2 door contacts.
No false alarms, lets you know when batteries need changing, and the sensors always work (I hate house alarms, we only have it to keep my OH quiet, and I always forget its on and set it off).
So I can certainly say that the one I have fitted is very reliable.
snoopy18 to Infinitysecurity
15 May 17#29
Not my experience at all
Been using these 10 years
Been fine, regularly test them
What's your experience of them
gsusx
15 May 172#28
The lack or internal alert is a deal breaker for me. Real shame :disappointed:
bfam
15 May 17#27
Heat for price.
I'm looking to buy the Response miGuard. Last time I checked that was a better option.
RajUK
15 May 17#23
does it have a GSM sim provision? or does it use the internet connection?
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shakerstevens
15 May 171#22
AS far as I can see no, it does not need a sim. on the Q&As on screwfix, one person asks if it needs to be plugged in a phone line, Yale themselves replied and said:
"Hi it will need to be plugged in to the internet router using the cable provided, there is no need for it to be connected to a phone line Thanks Yale Consumer Team"
So the hub that is provided with this sends a message to the Yale servers which in turns sends a text to your phone (the hub plugs into your router).
FTOdude170
15 May 17#21
so this still needs a phone line to connect to?
tom6195
15 May 17#20
Any word on whether it takes SIM card?
ruheluddin86
15 May 17#19
Does it take a sim or is it connect to tel line?
hosanyanwar
14 May 17#18
Does this take a sim card?
ruheluddin86
14 May 17#16
Does this use a SIM card rather than wired to tel line?
jaydeeuk1 to ruheluddin86
14 May 17#17
Not installed mine yet only opened box but it mentions 20 SMS for free but Yale reserve right to charge for more - guess it uses their servers
toffee_paul
12 May 17#11
slightly off topic but does anyone know if it's possible to connect the panel of this alarm to a QNAP NAS and have it send some kind of signal to the NAP (and more specifically the Surveillance Station app) to get it to start recording via the attached IP cameras? Or am I asking too much :smile:
jaydeeuk1 to toffee_paul
12 May 17#12
Does the qnap have ifttt integration?
Interloper
12 May 171#10
This is a great price for a Yale (or any) "smart" alarm kit; heat from me.
Bear in mind this is not compatible with the newer Easy Fit/EF accessories. If you need additional PIR's, door contacts and so on you will need to make sure they are for Yale HSA systems.
This also operates on the 433 MHz band that is allegedly easier to jam although this is probably a load of nonsense and isn't going to affect you either way as most opportunist thieves aren't walking around with signal jammers. The newer Yale alarms use the 868 MHz band instead but, again, there are likely to have never been any cases of this being an issue.
tom6195
12 May 17#2
Thanks was literally thinking about getting one of these today, any ideas on installation?
jaydeeuk1 to tom6195
12 May 17#4
All wireless so should be pretty straight forward.
MIB15 to tom6195
12 May 17#9
Very easy, takes a hour (or two max), you will have to drill a few holes in the wall, but that is about it.
Although the pictures show two yellow alarm boxes, one of them is a "dummy box" with nothing inside it.
Dragon32
12 May 17#8
Shame you cannot just buy the panel (that I know of) to replace my Yale that uses the telephone so I can do away with the phone line as that's all we use it for and want the option of alerts and also being able to turn it off remotely if we accidentally lock the cat in the living room. :smile:
johnszi23
12 May 17#5
Anybody knows the different between this and the 'premium' one? Without me Google it... I can see that this one send alert to your ios/android phone, but other than that?? Many thanks in advance.
jaydeeuk1 to johnszi23
12 May 172#7
Thats about it from looking about (they're both HSA 6000 compatible) so you can arm/disarm via phone (and presumably geo location) you'd need to purchase remote controls for the premium or type in keypad each time, If you bought the hub thing (which alone is over £100) then they would both do the same thing.
Premium comes with an extra door sensor (about £17 from amazon) and looks like its hard wired to the phone socket if you want it to dial out.
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Opening post
Wanted something wireless and easy to fit, must have external siren, with phone / email notifications, remote arm/disarm and that could work with IFTTT or yonomi and compliment our blink camera system.
Not many around that fit the bill - majority of the 'smart' systems only have an internal alarm, ismartalarm which was my first choice still hasn't released an external siren in the UK, so this looks like the best value option.
This is compatible with the various HSA6000 addons like door sensors, keyfobs, PIR etc so easy to expand.
Comes with:
Alarm hub
Siren
Dummy siren
2 x PIR motion detectors
Door / window contact
Keypad
Fixings and batteries.
Seems to be £250+ in most other places so this looks a decent price imo.
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Our expensive professionally installed system didn't last very long and when it did work it was iffy, so going the diy route. No need for contracts or servicing with these to keep up warranty , parts easy and cheap to replace and upgrade. Not saying you'd have an ulterior motive to knock these diy systems being a professional installer and all, but combined with my CCTV, motion activated lighting and water firing intruder detection system (or a garden cat water sprayer to you and me) I'm pretty confident it's enough of a deterrent to whatever p1key happens to be wandering through.
" Alarm works well however:
The internal basestation has no sounder, and consequently:
1. The door sounders do not operate despite the software suggesting otherwise (option to turn door opening sounder exists)
2. There is no sound to warn on entry to disarm (a feature on every other alarm system on the market)
3. There is no audible indication that the alarm is set or disarmed
4. If the alarm sounds outside, there is no sounder inside so you don't know it's gone off. The outside alarm cannot be heard inside the house.
It needs a sounder inside the house. I would not have bought it had I realised there isn't no audible sounder inside. If someone was to break in during the night, we probably wouldn't hear the alarm go off. Very dissapointed. "
No false alarms, lets you know when batteries need changing, and the sensors always work (I hate house alarms, we only have it to keep my OH quiet, and I always forget its on and set it off).
So I can certainly say that the one I have fitted is very reliable.
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I have the Yale EF Telecommunicating alarm and it's a superb system (connects to regular landline so no worries about 2G/GSM). I'd much prefer a 'smart' alarm like this, though, but the lack of an internal sounder was a dealbreaker. If you can live with that, it's a great deal.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/yale-smart-home-alarm-view-control-kit-plus-sr-340-plus-costco-2693272
Won't work if the UK shuts down the 2g network in 2020 (already happening in US)
Vodafone were planning on shutting down 2g network later this year, september/october time.
So that ruled out any of the 2g based sim card systems for me, no point if they have less than 3 years life in them
http://www.screwfix.com/p/yale-wireless-premium-gsm-burglar-alarm-kit/8612g#product_additional_details_container
It uses a gsm sim and q&a indicates it has an internal alarm
And also would like the option to extend to get CCTV linked in.
My concern is that the system isn't forward compatible with future updates. However it currently does everything I want (zones, remote function via app, decent priced additional PIR's) ... so, I've committed to buying one!
p.s. I have a Simplehuman bin but have never posted a deal for one on here. haha
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yale-YEFKIT2-Easy-Telecommunication-Alarm/dp/B00B8UR6LM
I sleep in the back and with my last alarm when it was going off outside at the front of house I couldn't hear a thing
So replaced it With premium version
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/yale-app-enabled-alarm-179-99-screwfix-2662582
Gotta love HUKD!
" Alarm works well however:
The internal basestation has no sounder, and consequently:
1. The door sounders do not operate despite the software suggesting otherwise (option to turn door opening sounder exists)
2. There is no sound to warn on entry to disarm (a feature on every other alarm system on the market)
3. There is no audible indication that the alarm is set or disarmed
4. If the alarm sounds outside, there is no sounder inside so you don't know it's gone off. The outside alarm cannot be heard inside the house.
It needs a sounder inside the house. I would not have bought it had I realised there isn't no audible sounder inside. If someone was to break in during the night, we probably wouldn't hear the alarm go off. Very dissapointed. "
https://www.alertelectrical.com/visonic-powermax-express-e-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwo-XIBRCOycL7hsuI_NoBEiQAuS6HtFaXqrCM_MCZq-yyjIFVZLTByVW1m-vN0w6wlgy5h4EaAjoE8P8HAQ
Our expensive professionally installed system didn't last very long and when it did work it was iffy, so going the diy route. No need for contracts or servicing with these to keep up warranty , parts easy and cheap to replace and upgrade. Not saying you'd have an ulterior motive to knock these diy systems being a professional installer and all, but combined with my CCTV, motion activated lighting and water firing intruder detection system (or a garden cat water sprayer to you and me) I'm pretty confident it's enough of a deterrent to whatever p1key happens to be wandering through.
No false alarms, lets you know when batteries need changing, and the sensors always work (I hate house alarms, we only have it to keep my OH quiet, and I always forget its on and set it off).
So I can certainly say that the one I have fitted is very reliable.
Been using these 10 years
Been fine, regularly test them
What's your experience of them
I'm looking to buy the Response miGuard. Last time I checked that was a better option.
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Hi the Alarm sends messages through the internet connection Thanks Yale Consumer Team
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"Hi it will need to be plugged in to the internet router using the cable provided, there is no need for it to be connected to a phone line Thanks Yale Consumer Team"
So the hub that is provided with this sends a message to the Yale servers which in turns sends a text to your phone (the hub plugs into your router).
Bear in mind this is not compatible with the newer Easy Fit/EF accessories. If you need additional PIR's, door contacts and so on you will need to make sure they are for Yale HSA systems.
This also operates on the 433 MHz band that is allegedly easier to jam although this is probably a load of nonsense and isn't going to affect you either way as most opportunist thieves aren't walking around with signal jammers. The newer Yale alarms use the 868 MHz band instead but, again, there are likely to have never been any cases of this being an issue.
Although the pictures show two yellow alarm boxes, one of them is a "dummy box" with nothing inside it.
Premium comes with an extra door sensor (about £17 from amazon) and looks like its hard wired to the phone socket if you want it to dial out.
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