Had to find a cheap, but half decent SSD for a build, and at £114.99 delivered from Amazon this is about the best you are going to find.
Lets clear a few things up first before the comments start.
1.) Yes we know you bought a 500GB Samsung Evo on Black Friday for £79, but that can't happen now due to NAND price increases.
2.) Nope it is not going to break just because you once bought an OCZ Vertex 2 drive, and got stung by it failing, this is a Toshiba drive through and through.
3.) It's SATA III 6Gbps, it's not an M.2 NVMe drive, that runs at 3200 MB/s so if that's what you are looking for then this is not it.
I've probably missed something, and no doubt someone will still mention that this seems expensive, and why not just wait for the prices to come down.
If you need a decent drive, and you need one now this is a good deal. If you don't need one now, then wait until next year when the prices may or may not reduce.
Anyway, hope this help someone. :smiley:
Manufacturers specification and marketing page can be found HERE! and HERE is one of many positive reviews about the drive/range, and another one just for good measure.
Sequential Read/Write
480GB: Up to 550/520 MB/s
Random Read/Write2 (4KiB, QD32)
480GB: Up to 86,000/83,0000 IOPS
Top comments
jamgin
14 May 1717#3
I remember when you could go to pictures, have a fish supper and buy a 480gb SSD all for 20 shillings... :laughing:
Uncommon.Sense
14 May 177#6
Brrr... all these cold votes, clearly people know where they can get a cheaper or better drive for less money, but don't want to share, and just keep it to themselves. Or they are living in the past.
Latest comments (34)
BIGUSHEADUS
17 May 17#34
Yea I just need to put it all together now. You should keep a lookout for the stuff on warehouse, there are some great deals there.
xyhz123456
16 May 17#33
Crazy discount that.
I hope they work well, if so you got a great deal!
BIGUSHEADUS
16 May 17#32
Arrived today, packaging showed signs of use but SSD looks brand new!
godphilla84
16 May 17#31
You can now save an extra 97p if you're willing to wait for delivery?
BIGUSHEADUS
14 May 171#9
While this may be of help to no one, you can get some good deals on amazon warehouse with the 20% off, managed to get a m.2 crucial x300 1tb for 150 yesterday. If it doesnt come off at checkout just ask in customer chat and they will take it off for you.
"2.) Nope it is not going to break just because you once bought an OCZ Vertex 2 drive, and got stung by it failing, this is a Toshiba drive through and through."
LMAO i have this drive, it died after a few weeks, i chucked it aside for a few days, plugged it back in and it came back alive and still works fine to this day in my bedroom pc lol must be almost 6 years old!
Also heat added, good price for a decent drive. Personally using a 240Gb Trion 100 and can't fault it, think it cost me £46 when prices were at rock bottom.
taras
16 May 17#28
Formatted space can vary between file system. that is why hdds/ssds quote unformatted space.
spannerzone
15 May 171#27
heat for the description, I'm sure most of us are fed up with the reminders that a year ago Ssd's were tuppence a dozen and back then they were 4 terabytes as well. Brexit, ISIS , Trump , nand wars, 3d turds are all to blame.
nublets2k
15 May 17#26
Actually that gives 137 :wink:. Effectively it's (128/1024^3) x 1000^3, but you can also do 128 x 0.931 which is 99% accurate.
nublets2k
15 May 17#25
All ssd's with normal (non-stacked) nand start off at the same relative size in GiB because nand chips are powers of 2 Gib in size, so all 120GB drives will be 128GiB and so on. Generally manufacturers use multiple chips of sizes between 8-32GiB as it gives the best price/performance ratio.
V-/3D stacked nand drives are different because the chips are not powers of 2.
This drive has 16 x 32GiB chips, giving 512GiB of space. A portion of this is set aside for the spare area as well as the SLC cache. This looks to be about 11% for the spare area as it's generally bigger on tlc drives as they are more prone to wear than MLC and SLC drives, there's also 1.5% reserved for the SLC cache.
This leaves about 447GiB of usable space, which when you convert it to GB gives 480GB.
Joshimitsu91
14 May 17#24
They do, sort of. (((128 / 1000) / 1000) / 1000) x 1024 x 1024 x 1024 = approx 119. Just different units to what your computer shows.
UriStamonov
14 May 171#23
Heat for the deal and the excellent description
Uncommon.Sense
14 May 171#22
You are all getting it mixed up it's GiB vs. GB
"Hard drive and SSD manufacturers use "GB" to mean 1000000000 bytes. So, the capacity of a "128 GB" SSD will be 128000000000 bytes. Expressed in GiB this would be about 119.2 GiB (128000000000 divided by 1073741824). Many operating systems, including Microsoft Windows, will display such a drive's capacity as "119 GB", using the SI prefix "G" but in the "binary" sense. No space is "lost" or "missing". The size is simply being expressed in a different unit, even though the "G" prefix is used in both cases."
EndlessWaves
14 May 17#21
Gb is Gigabits, drives are always in GB - Gigabytes.
Formatting means something different. A formatted drive does lose some capacity compared to an unformatted one but it's a minute amount, far less than even a single gigabyte. The noticeable difference comes solely from the differing definitions of a gigabyte.
SSDs have always been sold in capacities that are both multiples of ten and powers of two depending on the manufacturer. Popular early SSDs like Intel's X25-M were available in 80GB, 120GB and 160GB capacities for example.
BIGUSHEADUS
14 May 17#20
Sorry can't see as I'm on my laptop, just make sure you get on to Amazon's customer service and ask them to remove the 20% if it doesn't come off at checkout. :smiley:
Mrepg
14 May 171#19
Memberberries. Heat for the intro :smile:
jasee
14 May 17#18
Yes, ok badly expressed by me, it's binary space
roblerner
14 May 17#17
They are talking about formatted size. It's just that a GB isn't the same thing as a Gb. This is 480GB, which is still ~480GB of useable space when formatted - we're just used to using Gb.
Still frustrating, but the problem isn't formatted vs not formatted space - it's different people using different units.
chapchap
14 May 17#16
That seems to be the same in my link. Less than 90 quid makes it a bit of a bargain with current prices.
jasee
14 May 17#15
Ok, but I've always assumed they were talking about formatted size
Asura
14 May 17#14
SSDs come in 60, 120, 240, 480 etc. (as well as the usual 128, 256 etc.) it's not a new thing, it's been like that for a number of years now.
Ian2014
14 May 172#8
The discussion about advertised size versus what the computer sees has been going on for a long time.
Is it 1Gb = 1000Mb or 1Gb =1024Mb?
Yes, of course, but to me the standard sizes have always been shown as
256GB = 238GB
512GB = 477GB
1024GB = 954GB
but now it appears that they are actually making them as 238GB
=221GB etc
jasee
14 May 17#12
It's alright if they quote unformatted space or formatted space, but if it appears to be near the value of formatted space, then I assume it is formatted space!
Your 128 GB disk (unformatted) should have had a formatted space of 119GB.
But it appears that manufacturers are now quoting values which lead you to assume its formatted eg 238GB, 477GB and 954GB, naughty!
i had a 60gb Vertex 2 drive that had just over 55gb usable space,
i now have a samsung 128gb 840 pro which has just over 119gb usable space,
they should advertise the size as usable space :disappointed:
Uncommon.Sense
14 May 177#6
Brrr... all these cold votes, clearly people know where they can get a cheaper or better drive for less money, but don't want to share, and just keep it to themselves. Or they are living in the past.
jamgin
14 May 1717#3
I remember when you could go to pictures, have a fish supper and buy a 480gb SSD all for 20 shillings... :laughing:
gr8h8me to jamgin
14 May 17#5
I had to say...Well done old bean
jasee
14 May 17#4
Obviously, but I didn't realise that actually made them as this size unformatted, I assumed they meant formatted. Rather annoying!
cainer1
14 May 17#2
its 480gb total, so probably nearer 450gb of usable space
drives tend to be 60/120/240/480..
or
128/256/512
which ever you buy you dont get the full amount as usable space
jasee
14 May 17#1
This is terribly expensive of course...:wink:
But for the price it's actually a good deal, 512GB (presumably 480 GB formatted) SSd are difficult come by at this sort of price
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Opening post
Lets clear a few things up first before the comments start.
1.) Yes we know you bought a 500GB Samsung Evo on Black Friday for £79, but that can't happen now due to NAND price increases.
2.) Nope it is not going to break just because you once bought an OCZ Vertex 2 drive, and got stung by it failing, this is a Toshiba drive through and through.
3.) It's SATA III 6Gbps, it's not an M.2 NVMe drive, that runs at 3200 MB/s so if that's what you are looking for then this is not it.
I've probably missed something, and no doubt someone will still mention that this seems expensive, and why not just wait for the prices to come down.
If you need a decent drive, and you need one now this is a good deal. If you don't need one now, then wait until next year when the prices may or may not reduce.
Anyway, hope this help someone. :smiley:
Manufacturers specification and marketing page can be found HERE! and HERE is one of many positive reviews about the drive/range, and another one just for good measure.
Sequential Read/Write
480GB: Up to 550/520 MB/s
Random Read/Write2 (4KiB, QD32)
480GB: Up to 86,000/83,0000 IOPS
Top comments
:laughing:
Latest comments (34)
I hope they work well, if so you got a great deal!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01F9G46Q8/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1494776906&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=ssd+500gb
150 for what you said seems a bit wrong, it's nearly half price for a m.2..
https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Crucial-MX300-Internal-Solid-State/product/B01L80DH1Y?context=search
LMAO i have this drive, it died after a few weeks, i chucked it aside for a few days, plugged it back in and it came back alive and still works fine to this day in my bedroom pc lol must be almost 6 years old!
Also heat added, good price for a decent drive. Personally using a 240Gb Trion 100 and can't fault it, think it cost me £46 when prices were at rock bottom.
All ssd's with normal (non-stacked) nand start off at the same relative size in GiB because nand chips are powers of 2 Gib in size, so all 120GB drives will be 128GiB and so on. Generally manufacturers use multiple chips of sizes between 8-32GiB as it gives the best price/performance ratio.
V-/3D stacked nand drives are different because the chips are not powers of 2.
This drive has 16 x 32GiB chips, giving 512GiB of space. A portion of this is set aside for the spare area as well as the SLC cache. This looks to be about 11% for the spare area as it's generally bigger on tlc drives as they are more prone to wear than MLC and SLC drives, there's also 1.5% reserved for the SLC cache.
This leaves about 447GiB of usable space, which when you convert it to GB gives 480GB.
"Hard drive and SSD manufacturers use "GB" to mean 1000000000 bytes. So, the capacity of a "128 GB" SSD will be 128000000000 bytes. Expressed in GiB this would be about 119.2 GiB (128000000000 divided by 1073741824). Many operating systems, including Microsoft Windows, will display such a drive's capacity as "119 GB", using the SI prefix "G" but in the "binary" sense. No space is "lost" or "missing". The size is simply being expressed in a different unit, even though the "G" prefix is used in both cases."
Formatting means something different. A formatted drive does lose some capacity compared to an unformatted one but it's a minute amount, far less than even a single gigabyte. The noticeable difference comes solely from the differing definitions of a gigabyte.
SSDs have always been sold in capacities that are both multiples of ten and powers of two depending on the manufacturer. Popular early SSDs like Intel's X25-M were available in 80GB, 120GB and 160GB capacities for example.
Still frustrating, but the problem isn't formatted vs not formatted space - it's different people using different units.
Is it 1Gb = 1000Mb or 1Gb =1024Mb?
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2270887/128gb-ssd-showed-119gb.html
256GB = 238GB
512GB = 477GB
1024GB = 954GB
but now it appears that they are actually making them as 238GB
=221GB etc
Your 128 GB disk (unformatted) should have had a formatted space of 119GB.
But it appears that manufacturers are now quoting values which lead you to assume its formatted eg 238GB, 477GB and 954GB, naughty!
i now have a samsung 128gb 840 pro which has just over 119gb usable space,
they should advertise the size as usable space :disappointed:
:laughing:
drives tend to be 60/120/240/480..
or
128/256/512
which ever you buy you dont get the full amount as usable space
But for the price it's actually a good deal, 512GB (presumably 480 GB formatted) SSd are difficult come by at this sort of price