Awful company to deal with.... Heat for the Amazon price good drive for PS4...
nige182 to NeoRegia
17 May 17#24
Cheers, I had been waiting for a sub-£80 price again. I have had a few orders with Box fine so will go there unless Amazon drop price by the time I get in later.
supercasual
16 May 171#7
£79.99 bought at amazon on the24th march this year. However, not a bad price at all.
CampGareth
16 May 17#8
Worth remembering the caching scheme is different to that normally used. The SSD portion caches the most commonly accessed blocks across all time, instead of just recently accessed blocks in the last few minutes. Makes it useless for servers, great for consumer PCs where you regularly load your OS and browse the web.
4Real2016 to CampGareth
16 May 171#11
Yes and that's why its good for games, it's not a coincidence these have 8GB of NAND and games require 8GB of RAM, it takes about four loads before it's moved to NAND and then you get near SSD speeds, even the second load can see a 30 second reduction in load time for some games.
superfreddy
16 May 17#9
This will be for my PS4 which is apparently brilliant for it.
slayermatt
16 May 171#10
It's interesting that while hard drive prices have been increasing these SSHD's haven't really budged as much. Bit rich for me, but even just for a 2tb 2.5" you can't complain regardless.
CampGareth
17 May 17#12
Unfortunately I'm after drives for server use. The cache could be very useful if it used a more classic caching scheme but as is the drives are no better than standard HDDs.
Imagine this, I want a HDD to consume little power but be instantly ready when I need it. With an SSD cache the HDD portion could spend its time spun down, then when I write it could go to the SSD cache until that's mostly full, then the HDD could spin up and start offloading data. In that scenario the HDD's spun down until it's needed yet the drive responded instantly thanks to the SSD chunk. Ah well, I can dream.
DaMoUK2013
17 May 17#13
I normally avoid seagate but in this case an going to make an exception. Heat. :smile:
Maclurio
17 May 17#14
Is this a good choice to upgrade from a 500GB PS4 hard drive? Would I notice a difference with this being a SSHD? I'm not really aware of differences ect but have heard that these are faster then the standard hard drives.
BubaMan to Maclurio
17 May 171#15
After a few boots, it should improve startup time a bit as the SSD flash is filled with commonly used files.
If you play the same game a lot, you'll also notice a small decrease in loading times (about 10-20% in my experience) but if you play a variety of games, the 8GB flash is insufficient to provide any real benefit as most games are bigger than that.
4Real2016 to Maclurio
17 May 171#19
As long as you understand how they work then there is an advantage, you wont get faster speeds all the time like with an SSD, you will only get faster speeds after loading the same game/level multiple times.
If you look at these examples, he's probably loaded these between 3 or 4 times consecutively to get these speeds.
Apologies (edited)...
I saw "Game up to 5x faster than with traditional 7200-RPM hard drives" on the product page and made an assumption :neutral_face:
reaper200
17 May 17#25
Sweet. Thanks op!
goatboy_71
17 May 17#26
Are these quieter than the standard Seagate 2tb drive, I put one of those in my PS4 PRO but would gladly swap to this if it's quieter AND quicker. Any help answering this would be great. :smile:
It's not a new version it's a 3.5" drive. The one in this deal is a 2.5".... The one you have linked will not fit in the PS4 the one in this deal will...
ashuk
17 May 17#30
I have this on my PS4 Slim, it's fantastic! Games load really fast and I've only filled about 30% of it
bigmike20vt
17 May 17#31
indeed... and after reading this and other threads it says one thing... .Seagates branding sucks imo. Way too many people get confused and it is easy to see why, with same branding, same colouring and at 1st glance on an image with no point of reference they look the same.
really the 2.5 and 3.5 vertsions of these drives need to be more distinct to stop people buying the wrong drive...... its not like it benefits anyone and having a different colouring on the sticker or something for the 2.5 vs the 3.5 drive is easy enough.
(I myself was considering the 3.5 version of this drive a few days back which is why i am aware of this problem)
Considering this one can sometimes be had in a sale for ~£60, is it worth the extra here for the warranty and slightly faster speeds? Been after a new hard drive for my PS4 for a while
4Real2016
17 May 171#33
Yeah but it's not £60 it's £70, plus you lose the warranty if you open it up, isn't it a question for yourself anyway, you have all the facts.
Slightly faster?
Final Fantasy XV - 1m 41s vs 42s
xbox-360-elite
17 May 17#34
Yeah I guess you're right. I saw the FFXV video, but also the comments here mentioning differences like those are more common after the same level has been loaded multiple times. Just a bit stuck on the fence between ordering and waiting really
brendinho
17 May 17#35
excellent!! cheers!!
Stoofa
17 May 17#36
Ever since the addition of external HD support for the PS4 these have been in less demand. However personally I prefer everything inside my PS4, nothing externally attached just waiting to get knocked over etc.
Installed one of these and haven't regretted it. I paid around £99 for mine, so this is a good price.
Sorry people as I've been informed, wrong size drive, not the same as the one on offer.
4Real2016
17 May 171#39
Yeah it does depend on your gaming habits, if your someone who switches between multiple games constantly then it might not be worth it, but if you tend to play the same game for a few days in a row then it has benefits, in game load times after you die multiple times will improve in either case, as I said above you can see a 30s drop on your second load, it does vary though between games.
terrestris
17 May 17#40
Excellent drive - bought one at the beginning of the year to upgrade my laptop. Considerably faster and more responsive than the 1TB Hitachi drive I had in it before. As it's 7mm thick it should fit any laptop that can still fit an actual hard drive.
superfreddy
17 May 17#41
Received mine today. It's tiny!
tusshona
29 May 17#42
Could anyone tell me if this would have any impact on making the fans on the PS4 quieter? Obviously I know it has nothing to do with the fans, but by allowing the PS4 to access things quicker it theoretically shouldn't have to work as hard for as long and perhaps won't overheat as much?
superfreddy to tusshona
29 May 17#43
I have mine in a PS4 slim and it's pretty quiet. Barely hear the fans, but then again I never heard it with the stock drive as I replaced the drive straight away.
nige182 to tusshona
29 May 17#44
Are you talking original PS4 and have you already replaced the stock HDD with another? I have an original PS4 and had upgraded the stock 500GB to a 2TB, specifically the drive out of this external: https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/B00ILALU9G/ which is a 5400rpm drive (the same as the stock). However with the 2TB installed I did notice random increases in fan speed for short intervals after gaming for a while. Now that the PS4 supports external storage, I have reverted back to stock and use an external drive and haven't noticed it since.
I had read online about it and several people found the same when upgrading the internal drive to a larger HDD (no reports for SSHD but then fewer people had done that upgrade at the time), the fix that reportedly worked for some was to adjust the tightness of a screw.
To be honest though if you are getting random increases in fan speed in an original PS4 and have upgraded the HDD, I would try reverting back to stock first with an external drive (or put your upgraded drive in a caddy to be the external) to save money investing in this as I can't see it will further reduce the fan speed over a stock drive.
superfreddy
29 May 17#45
This drive is way better than the stock drive. It feels faster just using the console in general.
nige182 to superfreddy
29 May 17#46
I don't doubt that, as you use it the dashboard being a commonly accessed item will buffer into the SSD portion well, so it will make the dash quicker. And if you are constantly playing the same game then perhaps that too, but in regard to fan speeds I expect no reduction. When playing intensive games, the like that will get the fans up to full speed, you will still be accessing the HDD portion regularly, so as far as I can see there would be no noticeable reduction in heat generation.
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Imagine this, I want a HDD to consume little power but be instantly ready when I need it. With an SSD cache the HDD portion could spend its time spun down, then when I write it could go to the SSD cache until that's mostly full, then the HDD could spin up and start offloading data. In that scenario the HDD's spun down until it's needed yet the drive responded instantly thanks to the SSD chunk. Ah well, I can dream.
:smile:
If you play the same game a lot, you'll also notice a small decrease in loading times (about 10-20% in my experience) but if you play a variety of games, the 8GB flash is insufficient to provide any real benefit as most games are bigger than that.
If you look at these examples, he's probably loaded these between 3 or 4 times consecutively to get these speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smutqF2cDrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0D2_QC-r2o
I have had one in my Pro for a while and it works well. Not a huge upgrade in speed over a non SSHD 2tb drive but small improvements.
http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/seagate-laptop-fam/laptop-sshd/en-us/docs/100802299e.pdf
I saw "Game up to 5x faster than with traditional 7200-RPM hard drives" on the product page and made an assumption :neutral_face:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01IEKG2HM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
really the 2.5 and 3.5 vertsions of these drives need to be more distinct to stop people buying the wrong drive...... its not like it benefits anyone and having a different colouring on the sticker or something for the 2.5 vs the 3.5 drive is easy enough.
(I myself was considering the 3.5 version of this drive a few days back which is why i am aware of this problem)
Considering this one can sometimes be had in a sale for ~£60, is it worth the extra here for the warranty and slightly faster speeds? Been after a new hard drive for my PS4 for a while
Slightly faster?
Final Fantasy XV - 1m 41s vs 42s
Installed one of these and haven't regretted it. I paid around £99 for mine, so this is a good price.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01IEKG2HM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
I had read online about it and several people found the same when upgrading the internal drive to a larger HDD (no reports for SSHD but then fewer people had done that upgrade at the time), the fix that reportedly worked for some was to adjust the tightness of a screw.
To be honest though if you are getting random increases in fan speed in an original PS4 and have upgraded the HDD, I would try reverting back to stock first with an external drive (or put your upgraded drive in a caddy to be the external) to save money investing in this as I can't see it will further reduce the fan speed over a stock drive.