Price per TB is still the same as 5 years ago, makes me sad.

Wtf 5 years on and drives are still £25 per Tb.

You can thank Brexit and the weak pound for that. confused

No, this is for making waffles.

heat added. Great to see a hdd for sensible money again as the prices have been getting crazy lately...

Thanks, great price, I was about to buy a 4TB WD Blue for a HTPC but can't turn this down at £24 cheaper

thanks OP, ordered given current price of recertified is around 94

thanks, heat added

Seagate lol

same price at ebuyer if you prefer

Bought one, as I'm in no rush, I chose no rush delivery and got £3 toward an Amazon pantry order.. So that's free chocolate sorted for next weekend :smile:

Price per TB is still the same as 5 years ago, makes me sad.

eggs

How long before the "4TB is too much data for a single drive so you should store it across 250 16GB flash drives" comment.

Heat added I might go for it! :smiley:

Wtf 5 years on and drives are still £25 per Tb.

i might still get this tho....faster rpm & buffer...thoughts?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-X300-7200RPM-128MB-Drive/dp/B013J7HO8G/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1494800996&sr=1-1&keywords=x300

Recertified 4TB WD is £71.99 (£10 off a £100 spend is active for 23 more hours):
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/wd-book-new-4tb-recertified-71-99-two-for-133-98-using-code-2691292

is it good for nas driv?

just got a better price in my time machine

Going through amazon reviews it seems several of these failed within a few weeks... Hoped Seagate would eventually start making reliable drives again, but it seems not yet.
For some (odd) reason, in our environment (200+ PCs and 40+ servers), the big majority of failed drives throughout the years were Seagates... I won't buy any time soon, any Seagate

The ST4000DM005 is a 5900 RPM drive, contrary to what you may read on some sellers sites, seagate themselves are also a little vague on the specs.... http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/barracuda-fam/barracuda-new/files/barracuda-ds-1900-3-1608us.pdf I've had one for a couple of weeks 24/7, works fine. Originally ordered from amazon, waited a week then re-ordered from ebuyer who currently sell for £95.69, received next day click and collect (extra, but not much).

Amazon prime first order takes a tenner off

Maybe or maybe not...

Wondering if I should bite now to replace my 5 year old barrracuda or just stick my fingers in my ears and sing loudly :man:

Oh I know I definitely should, but seeing as it's lasted this long it's clear to me it is without manufacturing defects and of a good batch so it could potentially last a lot longer.
I've got some old clickers from the 90s which still work to this day

Even so everything important is backed up and most of the data is just throw-away game installs and applications.

Western Digital 4TB Intellipower SATA 6Gb/s 64 MB Cache 3.5-Inch NAS Desktop Hard Disk Drive - Red (WD40EFRX)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EHBERSE/
This is going for £129.99, is it worth the £30 more over this?

been out of the technical scene for a while but I'm thinking of setting up a NAS with these drives to store my files

what are these drives like? Seagate any good anymore? all my drives are samsungs

If you're intent on keeping large files of files then it's a steady deal.

Personally, I will hang on until the 1TB range of SSD's come down in line with this price as I'd rather have less storage but at faster read/write speeds.

Good for keeping lots of family videos and pictures on though!

Always have two backups though, one offsite.

Can I add this to my pc? If so does the connectors come with it? I had my pc custom built, I just picked the parts and let the company do the rest. Hopefully there is additional room to put this in, spent £3,800 on the pc. Need more space for backup and some projects..

I have one of these and a Toshiba 4tb in a RAID array in my QNAP NAS and they work perfectly fine together :smiley:

No, this is for making waffles.

I would of thought you would of been given enough storage for that sort of money must be gold plated

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q1-2017/ High rate of failure in comparison to other brands, If for important files then id advise to buy another brand.

I have over 3TB and 2 SSD's however have a lot of files and storage..

It's was a serious question... not everyone knows everything about computers. That's why I got it custom built, something wrong with that?

Hard drives are one of the few consumer electronic items that have stagnated in price for years. It goes back to the price hike in 2011 caused by natural disasters in South East Asia, so long before Brexit. That's why the pound has barely moved for months but the price on this hard drive has slowly decreased since it came out.

Or yeah, you know, blame Brexit for everything and all that.

Good deal.

The problem with that is that you spent nearly 4k on something you clearly didn't understand.

In answer to your questions, yes this will work but it doesn't come with any cables and you'll need a spare 3.5" bay to house it. If you're on a full/midi tower then that won't be a problem. If you've gone for some fancy ITX mini set-top box type scenario then you probably need a laptop style drive instead.

According to large scale stats, Seagate disks have the highest failure rate.
If you have a data centre, you may take that into consideration and still buy them if they are cheaper.
But if you're only buying one, I'd pay a few quid more and get one from Western Digital

Lol.. I understand what I need to. Done my research and stuff about the graphics card, processors.. ect.. I have not done anything manually. Therefore wasn't sure as some said this can fit a PS3 as well as some other machine.

Who ever said this would go into a PS3 is wrong. You need some form of ATX PC case for this. Some ITX cases will also house it but not all.

Apologies for the noob questions. Will these ssd's fit in a synology? Or an adapter needed? Or are there some that do? I prefer less space and more speed too.

every seagate disk has been noisy with seeks etc etc

unless your going to put your computer or server on the moon dont bother as the noise that they make will drive you crazy

Give it up dude :smile:

You will regret it, the WD is much more reliable than this.

I wont touch another Seagate, far too many failures, and Seagate have refused to honour the warranty on my last return, despite it failing at less than 12 months.

I have WD, Samsung, Hitachi and Toshiba drives that are 4-10 years old and still SMART = Green, despite daily use; I dont have a single Seagate left - all of them failed within 4 years.

Yes.

No, if it's for important files I'd advise that you backup properly. Gambling with your data is not the answer.

But to be clear, this is not an SSD. You don't want an SSD in a backup device.

I thought we'd got past the point of quoting Backblaze for the Seagate issues? Are people even reading their articles before linking them anymore or do they just not understand the data?


And further on down you can see the annualised failure rates for April 2013 - March 2017



Sure, the 7.51% annualized failure rate looks bad on one specific model, but this is the exact one Backblaze are saying to ignore as they have so few of them.
When you ignore that drive with a tiny sample size (170 out of 82516 drives), then you see that Seagate's worst drive is 3%. Compare this to the others, and there isn't anything too remarkable about it.

HGST seem to be doing the best at the moment.

In the same vein, I've had 2 WD drives fail on me over the last 5 years, but I also have another 2TB Elements that's been going strong for 5 years. I think it's luck of the draw really, some fail, some last forever..
I will only be using this for films and Steam games, the films are backed up on other drives and the Steam games can be quickly downloaded if anything were to happen.
Didn't Seagate buy Samsungs HDD manufacturing department recently?

Please tell me you accidentally put an extra 0 on the end of that price.

Perhaps not everything, but blame Brexit for inflated prices on ALL imported goods? Oh yea we can absolutely blame Brexit because the pound has lost ground against all big importers including Euro, Dollars and Yen. Whatever the price trends were or is .. it doesn't matter because it would have been cheaper with a stronger pound (even with older stocks .. i.e. pre-Brexit stocks because Retailers base their RRPs and even Promotional prices on currents costs.

Or yeah, place head firmly in sand.

No nothing wrong with that its your money so your choice. just alot of people on here Like me can only dream of having that sort of money to spend on a pc. you can get some pretty decent custom looking watercooled systems for that but You would be surprised how easy it is to build your own
With a little research on youtube and using pc partpicker its just a case of screwing in the motherboard to a case and pluging in a few wire here and there really

Thx :smiley: Yes i did read the above and was aware of the stats for the 5%.

https://www.box.co.uk/Seagate_BarraCuda_4TB_SATA_III_3.5_Hard_2012190.html @ £94.99

http://www.ebuyer.com/758008-seagate-barracuda-4tb-3-5-hard-drive-at-ebuyer-com-st4000dm005?fo_c=951&fo_k=ca459d58f0541cdc13126bd96835d583&fo_s=kuolaedi @95.69 + TC%

No amount of cashback would convince me to buy from ebuyer and Amazons CS for 70p over Box.co.uk is a no brainer.

Actual Capacity 3.63 TB

Lovely. Just got myself one. Thanks!

Amazon's CS is far from what it used to be.

I've been in the computer game since 20MB was considered a big capacity; I have seen Seagate drives die in droves, yet other makes plough on; I have thrown away 20-30 perfectly good HDDs in the last few years, as SD card capacity is now so good, and the prices/speeds so amazing, there is no point keeping those 20GB WD and Hitachi drives I bought for Win95, and that have been passed down from PC to PC as I rebuild old parts into computers for babies and toddlers to play with at nursery.
Last year I went through everything and ditched the 80GB and 160GB drives, the smallest I have kept is a pair of 10 year old 500GB Hitachi drives and a similar age IBM drive.
They are sat on the shelf behind me, waiting to go into another PC I expect to be building for my niece for Christmas.

You stick an in-depth HDD analyser on a Seagate drive, and you will see issues showing even on almost brand new drives that dont show up on drives with thousands of hours up time from other makes.

Bad luck with the WD drives though, I hope you werent shouting at them, because that is known to damage HDDs of all makes..

Seagate are the Trabant of HDDs, they may well get you to your destination, but they may equally melt into a puddle of metal and plastic with no warning.

On a serious note, eBuyer pack their hard drives properly. The last couple of drives I had from Amazon were posted through the letterbox in a cardboard wrapper ....

Tell me about it i bought a hdd from amazon warehouse deals last week was meant to be like new. It turned up in a plastic bag loose in a box the best bit is it had a password lock on it which blocked me booting up windows and using it. i spent a all day and night trying to get the password lock off it but i gave up in the end and sent it back what a waste of time. I will never try and save a few quid again and just by new from now on

The prices were like that since the floods, it has nothing to do with Brexit, its more to do with UK retailers milking us. After the floods HDD went up nearly double over night and they never ever came back down after everything was resolved.

Now pull up Seagate's old 3TB models :laughing:

So you admit it was one particular model of drive that was the issue for Seagate?

Should be okay, you don't NEED "Red" for arrays. I use lesser drives than this.

Don't expect super performance, it won't be bad though. Ignore the haters.

The pricing went *up* pretty much as soon as the currency took a dip.

We have been holding off recently to let it settle more, but are going to have to take it on the chin soon.

Other hardware had been a pain to source as suppliers/distributors have been renegotiating prices due to the sudden changes.

There has been stagnation sure, but its didn't go backwards.

Admit? Seagate have had a few bad batches over the years, the last was the 3tb models.

Sounds like you've been through a few. I will probably be installing it at the weekend so we shall see how long it lasts, I will probably check it with HD Sentinel when I get it anyways..

And you're using the "evidence" of those flawed models to brandish every other model produced by that company. I've even got 2 of those 3tb Seagate drives in my system and they've been working fine for the last few years, although I've got my eye on them and the data on the drives (ir)regularly backed up.