Still overpriced confused

You got a mobile PS4 with higher specs?! (For the record I have the switch, two ps4's and an xbone)

Your comment isn't being put into perspective for its USP and placement in the market

Mario Kart 8.1

£250 with MK8.1 and i'll bite :smiley:

A whole new platform deserved a whole new game, or at least a handful of new GP courses. As someone who's already paid out for mk8 on the wii u I find it difficult to get excited about parting with forty quid for more of the same. You go for gold though by all means.

The best multiplayer kart game ever, yes. The best single-player kart game would still be Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed (PC version). :smirk:

Does the average poster in HUKD threads criticising/defending brands and products strike you as an expert constructor of electronic devices?

Calm yourself Beryl, what a bizarre comment :confused:


You're spouting mainstream console propaganda Kirst, thus your skewed opinion stating technical spec facts are not welcome in here :smirk:


I think you'll find my wording did completely dissect you from the HUKD division of the NDL if you wish to look at it again, I have managed to upset all 'da mushroom mass-if' in here so I do know you're not someone I recognise as one of them.

That article is not about everywhere, yes it's doing well across the pond in septicville, it's doing well in Japan but that is their manor after all and as someone else said above it's doing well across the channel in Juncker's Euroland, namely Mutti Merkel's region.

I can confirm having lived in Germany and Austria there is almost toxic hate towards Xbox by a significant amount of gamers, many a time you hear them talking about the "English and their Xboxes" with genuine disdain.......it's all about Sony and Nintendo round that neck of the woods.

It has clearly had a better start than the Wii U did, of that there is no doubt but it seems we are already getting chatter from 3rd party devs saying it's not really what they expected and we're probably ending up at Nintendo being totally reliant on in-house titles to sell the system to the punters.

That policy did not work too well for them with the Wii U did it, and of course the Nintendo Fans will say it's all about Nintendo's own IP's and yeah I get that myself BUT the vast majority of consumers don't. The types that only buy one console do so for the sort of games the Switch won't have, my life even the FIFA game coming is meant to be PS3 spec. They also quite possibly look at it as an option for another DVD/Blu-Ray player, in the case of the Xbone S a 4K/UHD one, which again Nintendo have chosen not to pursue.

Contrary to popular belief I am not anti Nintendo merely anti their persistent inexplicable corporate policies and anti their lala fanboys/girls, only time will tell if the Switch becomes the roaring success the lovers predict or the abject failure the haters do.



You nailed everything with hybrid concept, Nintendo always has to have some gimmick concept or other when a current gen fully powered standard console with standard control accessories would be just fine.

It's why since the launch of the original Wii they've alienated so many gamers, the casuals have moved on to Candy Crush and My Smurf Village so all that's left is the hard core Nintendo Fans who would still claim it's all about enjoyment and the uniqueness of Nintendo's IP's had the Switch been a 1991 Gameboy :smirk:

Mario Kart 8.1

It isn't a custom Tegra X1 it is the off the shelf chip without customisation and has already been pointed out it runs much slower than the chip is capable of. 150 gflops is the normal gpu performance for portable mode with 200 gflops for a fast portable mode (likely Zelda is using) and then there is 384 gflops for docked but the chip is capable of up to 500 gflops. There cpu's are run at half speed too, 1ghz instead of 2ghz even in docked mode. It most definitely is a powerful portable though, at least 3x the gpu power of vita, 4x with the boost mode. It's there abouts, about the performance of ps3/360, a bit less here, a bit more there but that is its performance level but as a portable. I doubt it will ever get the range of impressive games those consoles got, they had the best developers who have since moved on to ps4 and xbox one except for Nintendo themselves of course who will probably provide the majority of must have games for the system. As a wii u owner I guess I'm disappointed that Nintendo is now 2 generations behind its competitors when it comes to a home console (I don't do portable gaming as much nowadays), Switch is only a marginal upgrade on wii u and effectively the Switch delivers as a home console what PS3 and 360 delivered back in 2005/6 over 10 years ago. Games like Mario Kart and Zelda BOTW are often better emulated on pc with 4k resolution and 60fps, it's a much better experience emulated than on Nintendo hardware.

Mariokart wii u running in 8k with an enhanced graphics pack on pc here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYhrm-VBA0g&t=16s

What you're asking for is impossible though. The Switch has a custom Tegra X1, that's a top of the line mobile chip. Assuming Nintendo want to keep to the hybrid concept, for it to match the processing power of the PS4/X1 in an affordable portable small factor would have meant they'd have had to steal some tech from the future.

Purchased a Switch on launch for £280 and got Zelda too. Picked up Mario Kart 8 on the weekend and I have no regrets what so ever! The graphics are beautiful and especially when you first see Zelda on a hand held or blown up a big screen. No concerns about the hardware or software from me, the systems are flying of shelves worldwide and that will bring more interest from third party developers.

It was never gonna be able to be or try to be a PS4 or Xbone beater when the mobile concept was decided to be implemented and that was a trade off they were prepared to accept.

Just like many of the purchasers have clearly chosen to accept it's limitations and buy it anyway

Each to their own.

Surprise surprise the Nintendo Defence League are still obsessively talking about the Switch's handheld credentials as regards it's lack of power when compared to Playstation and Xbox.

Nintendo announcing yet another new handheld in the shape of the 2DS XL in the last week would suggest that's not the market the Switch was aimed at, just saying :smirk:

I paid £35 through Tesco direct and it's still worth a go

Well said. By Turtle1992's logic, no product of any type should ever be criticised or have its shortfalls highlighted in product reviews!

His or her comment also omits to mention that Nintendo didn't actually develop the product's core technology because Switch is based on two year old Nvidia technology whereby the custom API improvements were coded for them by Nvidia as has been clearly documented by Nvidia itself.

It's all rather sad that some gamers are so emotionally invested in defending global corporations (who care not one jot about them) that they resort to using logic that essentially seeks to silence debate. If Kim Jong-un made a console then he'd doubtlessly approve of banning people from criticising it! :smile:

Cheers for all replies, I'm guessing/hoping there'll be bundled for about £200 come Xmas. We never have much time flee gaming and the pick up/put down family style gaming the Wii provides is what we like and this seems like the natural progression of that console. I appreciate the graphics may not be PlayStation or Xbox level but our lounge telly is still 32 inch so we're hardly modern tech mad lol.

...and the two year old Nvidia Shield on which Switch is based! Both mobile devices feature the same old Nvidia Tegra X1 processor and while Shield runs at the full clockspeed, Switch, despite being a more recent product released at a premium price, is massively downclocked even in docked mode.

Selling out on the same day apparently according to gamestop. Its exceeding expectations: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-05-01-switch-shipments-selling-out-same-day-gamestop

I don't own a switch, I never bought the Wii-U so I'm hardly a rabid Nintendo fan lurking. I don't actually know what amibos are or do. :P

I mostly choose to just game on Xbox one these days. Nintendo's last 3 consoles have never been about pure technical power, they have always been about the games. I do wish Nintendo would make a more conventional console but that's not their way and really we have xbone and ps4 so maybe its good to see something different.

Like you I plan to pick up a Switch at a later date.

Judging by how rapidly these things drop in price, how much are we predicting this will drop to by Xmas? Missus loves Zelda, and I love Mario Kart so those two games alone would keep us going for ages, hell we still have a Wii that gets used (7 year old loves the dance games and the sports). If it's coming down say £10 a month do we reckon it'll be more like £150 come Xmas? Cheers for any response.

This is a dreadful mindset to have, up there with you shouldn't criticise a movie because you would not be able to do better. By this logic, nothing should ever be opened to criticism... and at that point you basically remove the core of what discussion and debate is all about.

Switch seems to be doing great business in the US and Japan plus Germany and France but other markets not such a huge success and in UK fairly low level launch but we aren't a strong Nintendo territory. Not a console I want currently mainly because I have a wii u and have Zelda and Mario Kart already and its some wait until Mario Odyssey.

I think pricing will be based on how much momentum it has. In the UK sales seem to be slowing so I expect we are more likely to get a price drop than the US and Japan for example.

Who cares about these console/pc fan wars. The thing is selling out still and really gaming should be judged on enjoyment not technical specs.

I'm not convinced by this but will get it. I just want to see more titles for it and I'm not too convinced on the online passes that will be charged for.

OOS

Can we expire?

I can get it for £30 with the Prime Now £10 voucher so may take a punt.

It is still good but needs to be fixed to be perfect

It could be great with a bit more updating from the developer so maybe worth a punt

I was thinking of getting this, would you recommend against it then?

Pretty good deal on a decent screen protector if you've purchased peeps - Spigen screen protectors

if your not interested in any of the games announced so far, perhaps nintendos not for you. your probably need look at other consoles

There's no harm in waiting - Nintendo has a pipeline of some strong titles coming out more or less monthly (Arms, Splatoon, etc) during which the e-shop is growing nicely. E3 will likely see a number of announcements with firm release dates and then by the end of the year you will have probably the only game that could possibly topple Zelda in Mario Odyssey.

I have pumped a ridiculous amount of hours into Zelda (and Mario Kart this weekend actually...). Have 4 games on preorder and looking forward to each. I love Street Fighter 2 so much that paying £30 for it is a no brainer for me.

Anyway, sit and wait. I reckon by Christmas, Switch will be hard to resist with it's Virtual Console arriving and some key holiday period launches - and no doubt a strong bundle package.

I can get why people think Switch is pricey but for me, watching my kids (6 & :sunglasses: working out Zelda and loving every minute is worth the asking price. Should have seen the face of my youngest when he worked out how to catch & register horses!

If you've not got a Very account, you can get the console + Mario Kart for £263.97 delivered. Their new customer discount is applying a 20% discount on electrical items, when it should only be 10% (according to the t&c's).

Specs don't matter so much as long as the games are great. One of the reasons I still love the Megadrive.

It's been fixed by an update...

£250 with MK8.1 and i'll bite :smiley:

I ordered this on Friday with the same code it arrived yesterday. I got MK8, Snipperclips (which I'm yet to try) and Zelda. I'm blown away how good the Switch is in all honesty. I know my whole day today is going to spent on it :-)

Original post just needs to be un-expired.

I desperately want the grey version which has been out of stock for days...

Lack of games and lack of specs comments are infuriating on here. Yes, other consoles may have more games, but if you only have an hour or two a day to play, Zelda will keep you going for months. Mario Kart is great fun too on friends Switch, with two controllers included.

If you don't want to play Zelda or Mario again, that's fine. But if you want to play two of most fun games around, you'll need this.

The specs for this as a handheld are fine - Tegra 2 would have been nice for battery/power but it's good enough to run Zelda. There's enough games coming through with Arms, Splatoon, Mario and Skyrim to surely keep most people busy? There's only so much time to play these games - have over 10 games on XBox from Games with Gold which may be good, but I'm never going to get time to play them so kinda pointless.

Can't see it being any cheaper for a while with the cost of making these and fact that they're selling out each day they appear in stock. Be crazy to reduce price when rarely in stock (although wouldn't put anything past Nintendo after cancelling Nes Mini)

Obsolete console specs are appalling

ignore me. I think the code was already applied to a switch in my basket.

Code should still work, to quote... From 20:00 on Thursday 27th April 2017, when you spend £150 on qualifying items and add the voucher code to your basket you will get £20 off (the "Offer"). This offer ends at 23:59 on Sunday 7th May 2017.

Who knows with Amazon though!

We're still experiencing controller lag in two player single console multiplayer. Really frustrating when it could be awesome

I initially was worried by the lack of games but bought one anyway.
It depends on the kind of games you're into, but I have Zelda, Mario kart and rmx racing, and these alone will last me several months. By which time, other games will be available. If you have loads of spare time on your hands, then maybe the current library of software could be more of a worry.

code does not seem to be valid......

I thought it had last Friday along with new free DLC?

Worth a purchase and I only have Mario kart and Zelda.many months of fun ahead :smiley:

the price is a little off putting but the biggest problem for me is its lack of games, it's hard to buy this an know there's barely any games currently out or even coming out soon. I feel like by the time theres more than a few games I wanna play on the switch, the price/bundles will be far better for value

Mario kart is amazing though

And don't buy bomberman! What a waste of money that bug ridden thing is! I loved the mega drive and snes versions but this one is horrendous! Controller lag makes it impossible to play at times. Disgusting it hasn't been fixed by an update

So carry on waiting till next Christmas when it will be more at your biting price point.

Still overpriced confused