Add it to the basket and you'll get a new total, with the 20% discount applied.....
hukdbro
3 May 17#2
What advantages have these over regular 30-40 routers?
zizzles to hukdbro
3 May 177#4
The over 40s can use this model
Johnrg80
3 May 17#3
Been tracking these, bought, thank you very much!
scaryprowler
3 May 17#5
great with Kong firmware!
unconfirmed to scaryprowler
3 May 171#12
#TeamAdvancedTomato
Hiltron09
3 May 17#7
Is it worth paying the extra £30 for the 8500 x8? I'm not techy, I just see the numbers.
callum84 to Hiltron09
4 May 17#16
Was wondering same myself.
8500 has a few advantages but is an older unit with a slower CPU.
General consensus from the the posts I've read is that the R7800 is the way to go.
85256638
3 May 17#8
Hi why I couldn't get 20% off?
Smartguy1
3 May 171#9
Or the R7000 at £73.04 which makes it cheaper than some on ebay
Smartguy1
3 May 17#10
I just got the last one. I have been after the R7000 for a while now and been waiting for it to come down in price. Too good to miss really at this price. Hope it's ok.
qwerta369
3 May 17#11
Perfectly happy with my Sky SR102.
Smartguy1
4 May 17#13
My present router drops from 75mbps in the living room to 1mbps in the bedroom. Just see they got the X6 now for slightly less so not sure which to pick now lol.
doboworth
4 May 171#14
Is this worth getting over a BT homehub?
Edit: In a house with over a dozen wireless devices
Smiler1968
4 May 17#15
I think it's used product as new is showing up as, being around £160+
Jalfraag
4 May 171#17
the ea8500 and r7800 have the same chipset it's just clocked slightly slower. Both suffer from long range 2.4ghz disconnects so if you need that, get a broadcom unit like the r7000. Apart from that the r7800/ea8500 are the most powerful routers you can get short of netgears r9000.
wackyraces
4 May 17#18
Thanks, just ordered.
wackyraces
4 May 17#19
Anyone have any links to get the kong / dd-wrt firmware on this device? Found a few websites with info but quite confusing.
I just cancelled my order for the R7800. I got the last one they had so if you want one keep refreshing the page you may find it comes up for sale again. I went for the R7000 in the end as it should be ok for my needs. My son has that model and says it's superb. Don't forget to click the link for the X6 (R8000), it's actually less by a couple of quid compared to the R7800.
gja65 to Smartguy1
4 May 17#23
Thi
Is the R8000 better than the R7800 then ?
gja65 to Smartguy1
4 May 17#24
Thi
Is the R8000 better than the R7800 then ?
Olly.C
4 May 17#22
I'm trying to decide whether to go for the R7000 or the R7800 here...
What are the main benefits or upgrades in the R7800 in real world usage? I've looked into reviews and they both seem similar.
I'm mostly looking to boost my Wi-Fi range and speed as I currently use an old D-Link DIR-655 because I needed something that allows two Xbox Ones to play on Open NAT types (a number of routers don't seem capable of doing this - You can't open ports or use a DMZ when you have two Xbox Ones, I just use the UPnP on my current one) the downside of using that router is its old and I only have 2.4Ghz Wireless so speeds are nowhere near the 200mb+ download I get on my wired devices.
I'm sure either will do the job way better than my current router (as long as they have good UPnP) but would there be any big difference in the R7800?
Olly.C
4 May 17#25
He went for the R7000 not R8000 unless that was a typo from you?
t2lek
4 May 17#26
I've got the R7000 model and it is fantastic. However, just be aware that if you own a Microsoft Surface Pro then all of the routers listed above have issues with it. It's down to the drivers that the wireless chipset used in the Surface and has been an issue since the Surface Pro 2. I have a Surface Pro 4 and Microsoft still haven't acknowledged or fixed the issue. I have to run a second router just for the Surface which isn't ideal otherwise you have to put up with download speeds of up to 5-6 meg max.
This is well documented on many forums.
I've contemplated swapping my R7000 but I'd only just bought it at the time and didn't want to throw away £100.
Other than that though, it's been flawless with all other devices and has been the best router I've owned to date.
cheaperbythe12 to t2lek
5 May 17#38
Interesting. Was looking at one of these routers to upgrade from my old Asus. I have a Surface Pro 3 so will leave it for now. Have you found any way around the issue? sounds like my old Dell XPS 15 laptop which had a terrible wi-fi card onboard though not had any issues with the surface when travelling.
Oneday77 to t2lek
6 May 17#43
I have an R8000 as my main router and an R7000 as a wireless access point. My Surface Pro 3 works fine.
Other than I should probably switch my routers about for their current function everything is hunky dory.
Oneday77 to t2lek
6 May 17#44
I have an R8000 as my main router and an R7000 as a wireless access point. My Surface Pro 3 works fine.
Other than I should probably switch my routers about for their current function everything is hunky dory.
OrribleHarry
4 May 17#27
Does not work
Jalfraag
4 May 171#28
No it isn't. The R7800 is more powerful than pretty much everything bar the R9000. Its only drawback is poor 2.4ghz performance at long range.
PR1
4 May 17#29
hmm missed the r7800... :disappointed: what else is decent, I guess R7000 zad AC68u are getting a bit long in the tooth, but need to ditch the shockingly irritating BT Smarthub - EA9500 any good?
Jalfraag
4 May 17#30
The ea9500 is pretty much the same as the netgear r8500. It's OK, depends on what you'll be using it for. It has the same soc as the r7000 too, fairly old. The ea8500 is better.
PR1
4 May 17#31
quite liked the look of 8 gig ports, but not at cost of wifi, can always chuck a switch in... I guess relatively heavy home use - 2-3 devices streaming HD/4k and maybe 10 devices on wifi concurrently for web/mail/etc. So you reckon EA8500's better - I guess that's based on qualcomm vs broadcom mu-mimo and age?
Jalfraag to PR1
4 May 17#32
I would think any of them would be fine for that usage so the ea9500 would seem a good choice. where the qualcomm/atheros wins is cpu power if you were to run openvpn on the router you'd get much more throughput.
wackyraces
4 May 17#33
Thanks for the link. Mine arrives tomorrow. Will get it flashed.
Smartguy1
4 May 17#34
Just remember that anything classed as used only comes with a 30 day guarantee from Amazon.
The_Hoff
5 May 17#35
Make sure you update the firmware immediately if you're running the 7000, there's a vulnerability with the stock firmware.
I was informed on chat that it was 1 year warranty but you will only get a refund.
Smartguy1 to wackyraces
5 May 17#37
This is what it says on their website.
Do products come with a warranty?
No. Used products generally do not come with a manufacturer's warranty but all of our items are backed by Amazon’s satisfaction guarantee.
So the question then is what is Amazon's satisfaction guarantee. According to the details section on the item it states 30 days. You can't check that now for the item posted as the Warehouse Deals option is out of stock but you can check it on the R7000 which is still in stock. It states
Condition: Used, Very Good
Comment: Item is in original packaging, but packaging has minor damage. All purchases eligible for Amazon customer service and a 30 day return policy.
To me that means if it breaks after 30 days Amazon won't do anything about it. However, providing the item has not been previously registered with Netgear you maybe able to get Netgear to repair it or replace it. I always register my products just in case. I am sure these items will be fine and I am not sure what Netgear's warranty terms and conditions are but if they apply to first user only and it breaks in month 2 you could be saying goodbye to £100.00 or so.
wackyraces
5 May 171#39
This is off the forum when someone asked the same question,
The reason the items cannot be replaced is because there is no "stock" to replace your item.
Buying from Amazon Warehouse means you will still get full Amazon customer service, just as if it was sold by Amazon themselves.
A replacement is not available if it is or becomes faulty - but you CAN expect a FULL REFUND if it is still within a year of purchase, past 1 year, an exception can be made (and with Amazon's customer service being second to none, this is not uncommon, within reason).
In my time working with Amazon, the worst story I have heard from Warehouse deals is a customer receiving the wrong model of external Hard Drive (possibly a listing error) - Which he was refunded in full, free return and £5 off his next purchase for the hassle.
This is the same as what I received on chat. Not really sure now.
Smartguy1 to wackyraces
5 May 17#40
I still can't see anything on their website which states they will refund a used item should it become defective in the first year. I doubt a copy of a chat conversation from a single employee will help much in a fight should there be a problem although Amazon's customer services do appear to be very helpful. I googled "Amazon's Satisfaction Guarantee" but found nothing. If anyone can point to an actual statement from Amazon from their website regarding warranty repairs or refunds for used goods that will put this to bed.
I received my R7000 today. You could see it had been opened but the product is mint. No marks whatsoever so assume it was a customer return. From a warranty aspect I am not overly concerned as I would have paid around the price I paid for a used item off eBay and I wouldn't even get 30 days to return from there. Will get it configured over the weekend but my fibre connection appears to have three different WAN interfaces, one for ADSL, VDSL and ETHWAN. Not sure why it has the first two so hopefully just using the ETHWAN settings will work unless anyone knows different. I have replaced my router a few times before on ADSL but not since I had fibre installed.
TheAllenFamily
5 May 17#41
Mine was delivered today. Excellent piece of kit for the money. Thanks OP.
tafida01
6 May 17#42
Mine arrived yesterday. It was mint and already fired up and happy with the results
wackyraces
6 May 17#45
Received my R7800 router yesterday. Absolutely mint and not even opened. Easily setup and working great. Had to dig out my old BT fibre modem for use with it unless anyone can advise how you connect it without the modem.
Opening post
additional links for other varieties
R7000 for £73.04
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00HDK4GAK/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
R8000 for £99.62
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00TDV2IS4/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
Although cheaper than the R7800, User reviews are not so good for it.
R8500 for £129.60
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B01BD9TF6G/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
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All comments (45)
8500 has a few advantages but is an older unit with a slower CPU.
General consensus from the the posts I've read is that the R7800 is the way to go.
Edit: In a house with over a dozen wireless devices
Is the R8000 better than the R7800 then ?
Is the R8000 better than the R7800 then ?
What are the main benefits or upgrades in the R7800 in real world usage? I've looked into reviews and they both seem similar.
I'm mostly looking to boost my Wi-Fi range and speed as I currently use an old D-Link DIR-655 because I needed something that allows two Xbox Ones to play on Open NAT types (a number of routers don't seem capable of doing this - You can't open ports or use a DMZ when you have two Xbox Ones, I just use the UPnP on my current one) the downside of using that router is its old and I only have 2.4Ghz Wireless so speeds are nowhere near the 200mb+ download I get on my wired devices.
I'm sure either will do the job way better than my current router (as long as they have good UPnP) but would there be any big difference in the R7800?
This is well documented on many forums.
I've contemplated swapping my R7000 but I'd only just bought it at the time and didn't want to throw away £100.
Other than that though, it's been flawless with all other devices and has been the best router I've owned to date.
Other than I should probably switch my routers about for their current function everything is hunky dory.
Other than I should probably switch my routers about for their current function everything is hunky dory.
https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/582384
https://kb.netgear.com/000036386/CVE-2016-582384
Do products come with a warranty?
No. Used products generally do not come with a manufacturer's warranty but all of our items are backed by Amazon’s satisfaction guarantee.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amazon-Warehouse-Deals/b?ie=UTF8&node=3581866031
So the question then is what is Amazon's satisfaction guarantee. According to the details section on the item it states 30 days. You can't check that now for the item posted as the Warehouse Deals option is out of stock but you can check it on the R7000 which is still in stock. It states
Condition: Used, Very Good
Comment: Item is in original packaging, but packaging has minor damage. All purchases eligible for Amazon customer service and a 30 day return policy.
To me that means if it breaks after 30 days Amazon won't do anything about it. However, providing the item has not been previously registered with Netgear you maybe able to get Netgear to repair it or replace it. I always register my products just in case. I am sure these items will be fine and I am not sure what Netgear's warranty terms and conditions are but if they apply to first user only and it breaks in month 2 you could be saying goodbye to £100.00 or so.
The reason the items cannot be replaced is because there is no "stock" to replace your item.
Buying from Amazon Warehouse means you will still get full Amazon customer service, just as if it was sold by Amazon themselves.
A replacement is not available if it is or becomes faulty - but you CAN expect a FULL REFUND if it is still within a year of purchase, past 1 year, an exception can be made (and with Amazon's customer service being second to none, this is not uncommon, within reason).
In my time working with Amazon, the worst story I have heard from Warehouse deals is a customer receiving the wrong model of external Hard Drive (possibly a listing error) - Which he was refunded in full, free return and £5 off his next purchase for the hassle.
This is the same as what I received on chat. Not really sure now.
I received my R7000 today. You could see it had been opened but the product is mint. No marks whatsoever so assume it was a customer return. From a warranty aspect I am not overly concerned as I would have paid around the price I paid for a used item off eBay and I wouldn't even get 30 days to return from there. Will get it configured over the weekend but my fibre connection appears to have three different WAN interfaces, one for ADSL, VDSL and ETHWAN. Not sure why it has the first two so hopefully just using the ETHWAN settings will work unless anyone knows different. I have replaced my router a few times before on ADSL but not since I had fibre installed.