You muppet :smile:

This 2016 flagship phone has the Snapdragon 820. It's the mid range Z play that has the 625.

Apart from a smaller battery and less RAM The Moto Z has nearly everything a flagship should have over the top of the midrange Lenovo Z2UK. E.g.:-
* 2K 5.5" Amoled VS 1K 5" LED
* micro sd slot VS none
* NFC and Android Pay VS none
* Fast UFS 2.0 memory VS slower eMMC 5.1
* Skinny full metal construction VS fragile glass
* Full UK 4g support VS no band 20(800)
* faster f/1.8 camera with OIS VS f/2.2 with no OIS

However the main reasons I'd be tempted to avoid any cheap but good import are:-
* Near stock Android 7 VS whatever unsupported non stock old Android version your importer has flashed
* Monthly OTA security updates VS relying on the modding community for any bug fixes and updates. (Fun if you're a hobbyist but probably not for the mainstream.)
* 2 year John Lewis warranty VS keeping your fingers crossed that you don't have any problems.

John Lewis should be the ONLY shop you buy from, their warranty service is second to none. I menti
on this because Motorola/Lenovo's warranty repair service is absolutely rubbish. In short, My Moto z blew it's bluetooth motherboard - should have sent it back to John Lewis, didn't - was assured by moto/lenovo that they don't send refurbished phones back,,,, they did,,,, but worse than that they sent a bent phone back that worked with bluetooth, but speaker vibrated and the repair quality was pathetic. Company they use is called Anovo (look it up on internet). The phone also needed a mobo replacement so a new IMEI was given. 2nd time sent to them to fix the poor refurb and they had the phone for 6 weeks, finally sent it back with a slightly straightened but still bent chassis and a new bent speaker foil to fix the "vibration". Finally, I contacted John Lewis, mentioned my phone's IMEI wouldn't be what they sold me. They completely took me away from this hell and replaced my phone with a brand new Moto z within 24 hrs! Massive KUDOS to John Lewis. Avoid ALL motorola devices (whilst owned by lenovo) at all costs unless you purchase through JL.com.

You can double (or disable) the screen load animation speeds in developer mode.

To enable developer mode
1) Open the Settings menu
2) Scroll to the bottom and tap "About Phone".
3) Scroll to the bottom and tap “Build number” seven times.
You should now be a developer.

4) Now go back to the main settings menu.
5) Scroll down and tap "Developer options"
6) Scroll down and set the following 3 options to .5x
6.1) Tap "Window animation scale" and set to .5x
6.2) Tap "Transition animation scale" and set to .5x
6.3) Tap "Animator duration scale" and set to .5x
Your phone should now fly.

I wouldn't mess with the other developer settings unless you know what you're doing.

Hello does anybody have one of these to sell? John Lewis have removed this deal from their website :disappointed:

Wonder if they'll release new mods with the Z2?

Admittedly it's a very good phone, really balanced and one of the better Snapdragon 625 implementations. But I can't justify the hotness of this deal when you can get a Lenovo ZUK Z2 for £130ish or an LeEco Max 2 for £150ish... or for those concerned about shipping from China a Lenovo P2 from Three for £200

Picked mine up from Waitrose this afternoon. Not much bigger than my old X Play but significantly thinner. Finger print scanner work very well.

Took a long time to update to Android 7.0 and install all of my apps. Going to put a 64GB SD card into it and I need to buy some extra USB-C chargers.

Don't really care about the boot time as my phone is hardly ever turned off.

Thanks a lot for this...much appreciated.

No this is for daily use, the boot is still slow. I suspect google want you to notice the cool animated transitions as you start or switch between apps, go from landscape to portrait, etc. As nice as they are, they're a bit too slow for my taste. Fortunately there's an option to speed these transitions up, disable them or slow them down, whatever floats your boat. I personally like my apps to start that little bit faster.

Hi, when u say fly....not in the general sense of daily use but the boot sequence part, is that correct?.

Ha, I certainly don't know what I am doing ( in case you haven't guessed.) Have just done as you suggested and it is now much quicker than the LG G3. Many thanks.

Had read somewhere that there had been issues with Bluetooth connection. Connected mine to my car and earphones no problem.

your kidding me, no jack, i was going to pick this over the g5 plus

You can double (or disable) the screen load animation speeds in developer mode.

To enable developer mode
1) Open the Settings menu
2) Scroll to the bottom and tap "About Phone".
3) Scroll to the bottom and tap “Build number” seven times.
You should now be a developer.

4) Now go back to the main settings menu.
5) Scroll down and tap "Developer options"
6) Scroll down and set the following 3 options to .5x
6.1) Tap "Window animation scale" and set to .5x
6.2) Tap "Transition animation scale" and set to .5x
6.3) Tap "Animator duration scale" and set to .5x
Your phone should now fly.

I wouldn't mess with the other developer settings unless you know what you're doing.

Ok, picked mine up today from John Lewis and am very pleased with it.
Though if honest can't really see much difference in size of screen, picture quality or time to load screens compared to LG G3. The phone itself is bigger however the screens are more or less the same size
However much quicker scrolling down pages and the apps seem to be opening quicker.
Love the feel of it. Bought a set of 2.transparent covers from Amazon and am using one of these rather than the official Moto back as I want to see the gold cover.
The camera is very good and I love all the gizmos such as the finger print sensor, chop chop motion to turn on the torch and the sensor that tells you the time etc when it is turned off. Just a gimmick I know but would be handy if you want to know the time during night.
Thinking about it I didn't really need it but it is definitely feels like a step up from my LG G3 and I definitely prefer it. Which I wasn't sure I would. Does feel like a flagship phone.
Glad I bought from JL for reassurance of 2 year guarantee.

I have a Moto X play which I have been very happy with but it needs replacing soon as the battery life is fading. I'm too am trying to decide between the Moto Z Play and the G5 Plus (currently £229 at CPW). Not too bothered about the "mods" but the Z Play does seem to have a better screen.

My ageing LG3 needs replacing, I have been looking at the Moto G5 Plus, is this phone worth the £50 extra?

boom.....right in the sucker

Good call! I mistook it for the Z Play. Hotness is deserved then

I ordered from the other deal at Motorola at the weekend, but now ordered from JL so i'll send the other one back for a refund when it arrives tomorrow. My last Motorola phone bought from JL developed a fault and they exchanged it no questions asked which is the only reason i'll go through the returns hassle as the JL warranty is definately worth it.

.[/quote]I'm really tempted. Unfortunately I'll be working on Holland for several months so I'd have to fly back to return it to JL in case of problems. And I always seem to have a problem with new smartphones that makes me need to return them immediately.
What android version do you have? I'm still on 5.0 as previous LG upgrades have completely destroyed the phones.[/quote]

I'm still on 5. Only cos until you said I have never even thought of upgrading!!! I have a horrible feeling that I may prefer my LG G3 but couldn't resist this deal. Any problems I will return. That is why I couldn't be bothered to buy from elsewhere.
Don't think I would bother upgrading if I was going to Holland, have been to Rotterdam a few times with work and had a great time. Enjoy Holland.

What's wrong with his grammar ?

I'm really tempted. Unfortunately I'll be working on Holland for several months so I'd have to fly back to return it to JL in case of problems. And I always seem to have a problem with new smartphones that makes me need to return them immediately.
What android version do you have? I'm still on 5.0 as previous LG upgrades have completely destroyed the phones.

Is this the phone that will finally replace my LG G3? I love my G3 so much, but it's been slow as hell for the past month and the battery is like a sieve now too. Should I sacrifice 300 quid, a pretty good camera for an upgrade?

Thanks for the reply. I'm using Sony MDR-1ABT headphones at home. Have other sources for music playback. But for running with earbuds etc I just want a reasonable quality and loudness.

It's not Hi Res audio like the HTC 10 or LG G6. (Although there is possibly a Hi Def audio mod on the way).
Audio is so subjective and it depends on the headphones you're using. I'm happy enough, but if you're an audiophile, you may not be.

John Lewis should be the ONLY shop you buy from, their warranty service is second to none. I menti
on this because Motorola/Lenovo's warranty repair service is absolutely rubbish. In short, My Moto z blew it's bluetooth motherboard - should have sent it back to John Lewis, didn't - was assured by moto/lenovo that they don't send refurbished phones back,,,, they did,,,, but worse than that they sent a bent phone back that worked with bluetooth, but speaker vibrated and the repair quality was pathetic. Company they use is called Anovo (look it up on internet). The phone also needed a mobo replacement so a new IMEI was given. 2nd time sent to them to fix the poor refurb and they had the phone for 6 weeks, finally sent it back with a slightly straightened but still bent chassis and a new bent speaker foil to fix the "vibration". Finally, I contacted John Lewis, mentioned my phone's IMEI wouldn't be what they sold me. They completely took me away from this hell and replaced my phone with a brand new Moto z within 24 hrs! Massive KUDOS to John Lewis. Avoid ALL motorola devices (whilst owned by lenovo) at all costs unless you purchase through JL.com.

Hi

Really want to buy this phone. What's the audio quality/loudness like through earphones ? Thank you in advance : )

Just remember you probably would need to buy the battery pack with this phone according to reviews. Its only a 2,600mAh.
The Moto battery cover pack is £60 rrp which is a lot. So its either that or a powerbank.

It is a good deal, but I prefer slower with a better battery life, so the Lenovo P2 is tempting me.

No! But I would like one too!

Think I'm good thanks, but sweet come-back bro...

I wish there was a simple rear panel (magnetic, of course) with a hinged front flap (for screen protection) attached.

Has anyone found such a thing?

I think you should learn more about grammar before attempting smart Alec comments.

Answered your own question

Well yes, but chupar is the Spanish verb "to suck...."

No idea why anyone would buy this when you can get a smartphone with a newer Snapdragon processor for half the price from one of the Chinese sites!

A lolly?

Lenovo are crap though. Google should have maintained ownership of the brand.

will they match this instore

Got JL to pricematch CPW with the Speaker Mod a few weeks ago @ £299.
Fast phone and still is even with lots going on.
Great Battery Life, even when connected to 5GHZ WIFi.
Speaker Mod is very good, just wish there was phone case that encapsulated the whole unit when attached.....!!
A great phone for £300, not worth spending double on a S8 or G6 etc

dont know whether to get this currenty own a note 4

Brilliant phone, had one but dropped it on tiled floor and screen broke. Ordered a new screen... but thanks to this deal have now ordered the complete phone!

Never found anywhere that stocks the battery mod, and Motorola constantly delay the launch of their own...hopefully will be out when the Z2 launches in a few months time

I got this last time it was on offer.

It has rubbish battery life when connected to a 5GHz WiFi network... Around 2.5h SOT.
If I connect to 2.4GHz WiFi or stay on Mobile data I get between 3.5 and 4h.

Tasty tasty, chupa chups.

This mod would make this phone out of this world.
Shame it didn't have many backers

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/moto-z-the-storage-mod-smartphone#/

i saw a good magazine review for the moto g5 - the reviewer said it had the second-best camera on the market (only exceeded by the google pixel - if a good camera is important for you).

https://www.motorola.com/we/products/moto-g

Adding the Incipio battery pack can give you up to 3 days off one charge!!!

does this suffer from the pink line screen issues like the other Motorola flagships?

More than happy with mine, paid 300 with the speaker mod.

Yes the battery isn't the best but in my eyes the ability of the Turbo charge more than makes up for this.
Performing well and I've found myself using the speaker a lot!

I actually prefer the size of the phone with the speaker attached lol

Been waiting ages for the JBL sound boost mod to drop below £40 but it keeps going up in price :disappointed:

cracking phone, solidly constructed, the battery lasts a day after nougat update unless you're using it really heavily. camera is great too.

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I bought this for £299 with a free Moto Mod speaker at Carphone Warehouse a few weeks ago. Great phone. Only downside is the lack of a headphone jack (adapter supplied with phone).

Moto Z 2 is on the way and Motorola have committed to releasing a load more Moto Mods that will be backward compatible with Moto Z 1st gen.

Good price for this phone (its not a top phone, but for 50% the price of a top phone I think its a good deal)- there was a deal a few days ago at the same price but that expired. I didn't want to miss it again so have bought this!
Thanks!

You muppet :smile:

Misread the retailer and removed my comment

Isn't that a Currys voucher code?