it's not stagnant or mediocre at all, the problem with the Android tablet market is people want to pay this:



and expect this;



Galaxy Tab S3, Pixl C, Nexus 9... All great Android tablets. All iPad money.

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I have two of these, they are pap and not worth the money. They are soooooo slow, and that's with the latest firmware and without any apps on. I would avoid.

Hmm, great price...but...this only has a 720P screen whereas the previous version had a 1080P screen, bit of a step backwards? :neutral_face:

I can only see it at £119.99?

Aaaah... ...so, any good? :smiley:

it won't play Netflix in HD.

It seems to be the standard price now at £99. Hot.

Hmm, great price...but...this only has a 720P screen whereas the previous version had a 1080P screen, bit of a step backwards? :neutral_face:

- Resolution 1280 x 800 pixels :disappointed:

Good spot. Heat added OP

It is coming up as the post says - £99.99 for me.

Does it have GPS? Can't see on the link so im assuming not

can someone confirm?

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I have two of these, they are pap and not worth the money. They are soooooo slow, and that's with the latest firmware and without any apps on. I would avoid.

This is good for the price, but does any one know if this is better than the Lenovo Tab 2, apart from the battery life the specs appear the same or worse.

I did a bit more research, discovered Lenovo lowered many specs on the Tab 3 to decrease the price. Was wondering if it was upgrading, apparently not this year.

Thanks. From what you are saying it appears any upgrade will have to be a different model.

How come phones get better and better every six months, but other than the new nvidia shield theres barely anything out there better than a £135 on launch 2013 nexus 7?

I think the Tab 4 line is due in the summer. Maybe hold on for that?

I got one on the last deal and for quick 'pick up and check' stuff and browsing it seems fine. For anything else I would probably open up the laptop.

Heat for the deal - thanks for sharing.
[/general gripe] Why are we being presented with mediocre hardware? Does it really cost that much more to fit a higher resolution screen and a better CPU/GPU combo, don't get me started on the RAM... [/general gripe] :stuck_out_tongue:

is this the same but has 32gb?
https://www.johnlewis.com/lenovo-tab-2-a10-30-tablet-android-wi-fi-2gb-ram-32gb-10-1-midnight-blue/p3124342?colour=Midnight%20Blue

I had a Tab 2 last year (another deal from here) and had to return is because browsing on Chrome or any other browser was not just unbearable, it was impossible. A full minute for some pages to load, and then it would crash. My LG Gtab 8 (now 3 years old) with a Snapdragon 600 is way faster. Perhaps the Tab 3 is better but I have no way of comparing.

Lenovo uses bargain-basement SOCs from Mediateks in these devices and it really does hobble their functionality. I'm not having a rant at Mediatek in general (for instance, their Helio line of SOCs are pretty good) but what Lenovo has used for these Tabs are dire.

It was an S8 I had, it was the higher range. The 'A' line is the entry level. These are snapdragons btw or at least the a10-30f is.

My apologies, should have been clear - I was commenting on the A10 which I had. Definitely not the S-line, which as you say is faster by an order of magnitude and uses Snapdragons.
Amazing how good Snapdragon SOCs are tbh, I have a 4 year old Lg G2 as well, rocking a rather dated Snapdragon 800, and it runs pretty solid with Lineage 14.1..

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I'm not trolling, but I get why Apple do what they do (make everything obsolete within a small time frame). It's the best way to progress. All I see is stagnation and mediocrity in the Android world. I for one would probably complain about a "forced" hardware upgrade to use the latest software. However look how far Android has come - it now supports assigning storage as system RAM. Surely hardware should not be allowed to exist that doesn't have a minimum of 16GB "working" RAM these days? I for one hate having to juggle what apps I have installed to allow for updates to run...
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I've had quite a few tablets from all 3 camps...android, apple and windows. Windows is so yawn, Apple is so bloody locked down i can't stand it although i use it a macbook pro each day for work...android, well it just works and the best android tablets i have used have been the Nexus 9 (wish i had never sold that) but now have an nvidia shield k1 tablet and love it.....

I bought the 32gb one a couple of months ago have had no problems with it at all

slow...........slow...........slow............I had one and returned after 1 day - my old Galaxy Tab 2 was much much better/faster.

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I do agree, I do believe the market would better off if devices had to meet a minimum spec - rather like a console. That way developers would know the limits of the hardware they are creating for and we would hopefully overcome this out of memory nonsense! I suppose there is no easy fix now...

My bad if link does not work. Trusted Reviews have details on tab 4
http://www.trustedreviews.com/lenovo-tab-4-review

I bought this from Argos and wish I has tested it before hand because I tried to return it and Argos said I couldn't because it had been opened.
Now selling on ebay..

I think that's the wrong way around, much like cats, human desires and budgets, give us a bigger thing and we'll find a way to use all of it. Forcing minimum requirements isn't going to solve people being bad at writing efficient code that doesn't need 3GB of RAM minimum.

Case in point, I have a phone here with 3GB of RAM. Over the last day Chrome has used on average 110MB of RAM which feels a little high but is probably due to having multiple tabs. That'd fit just fine in 512MB of RAM on its own. For some reason though all of my RAM is in use, because things like the app to read data from my bathroom scales is eating 27MB (why?! I need that maybe 0.0002% of the time!).

So yeah my phone should be flying but for some reason every app wants a tonne of RAM and wants to use it all the time. Purely because they can.

lol

1280 x 800, no thanks. LG I bought 3 years ago for £99 has the same spec and better screen.

How does this compare to my aging hudl 2? I really wish tesco hadn't stopped making tablets.

Because there's no money in tablets essentially, especially now everyone has huge screen phones (e.g. most people with a 5-5.5 inch phone don't need a 7in tablet) so companies don't invest resources in them. Where as androids and iphones are constantly neck and neck in features, the iPad (which itself is in decline) is considered so far ahead in terms of content that no one else really bothers, except for the low end. People either buy an ipad or a cheap tab for the kids. At least that's my take.

I got the LG G Pad 8.3 a few years back for the around same price and even now it's still a better tablet overall compared to this.

I still use it now with Android Nougat due to support on custom roms - you won't get this with this tablet.

I still use my G Pad for gaming because I don't want to redo all the levels again. :smiley:
However the Tab 3 Plus I bought from the Tesco deal recently offers better media experience.

Haha, you should root your device as you can back it up and transfer to other devices.

Bigger screen on the Tab 3 is a bonus so I agree that it might be better for multipedia but then it's let down with the 720p resolution. My old old phone had 720p on a 4.7 inch display and could see the pixels compared to a Full HD, can't imagine what it's like on a 10 inch tablet.

No. I mean the Yoga Tab 3 10 Plus ... 2K screen. £179 ... :smiley:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-yoga-tab-3-10-plus-10-1-3gb-32gb-android-6-0-puma-black-179-tesco-direct-2674612

I thought you will lose all your apps when you install custom ROM, no?

£159 after calling Tesco.

I've got the Tab 2 A10-70f which is the generation behind this one and it's cracking, paid £150 for it over a year ago, and I've not had a problem with it. Recently flashed it with Android 6.0 and it's running like a dream.

I remember the Tab 3 and the Yoga 3 were step downs from the previous generation and I'm not sure why Lenovo did it, but the Tab 4 (and the plus versions) are due out sometime next month I believe. Worth waiting I'd say.

Lenovo Yoga Tab 3 8 Inch 16GB Tablet is that better than this? Also JH only have tab 2's at same prices.

I only want it for web pages / perhaps few apps and Kodi.

I love my Hudl2 - I wish Tesco would make a Hudl3. I bought an Nvidia Shield K1 used from Amazon recently (for Nougat) and it didn't seem any better than the Hudl2 so I sent it back.

I'm waiting to see what the Lenovo Tab 4 8" plus is like when it comes out this month. Hoping it will be competitively priced. http://www.techradar.com/reviews/lenovo-tab-4

ipad killer

I use it for the same and also downloading content from Netflix and iPlayer for night shifts. Plays KODI fine.
Its a decent tablet, nowhere near the best but its £99.

Reviews are good. Are they fake?

Nice price -shame about the screen resolution though.

Yeah, the plus models seem to have pretty decent specs. I've got my eye on the Tab 4 10 Plus 4GB/64GB model.
Supposed to be launching in May, but I haven't heard any news recently.

That is terrible. Are there two versions of the Tab 3?

And the problem with the market is not that people expect premium tablets for bargain prices - the problem is that there are no premium tablets. You can get the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2, which is hardly recognisable as Android with all the Samsung software, or you can get the Google Pixel C, which is nice, but also really pricey, and is lacking an LTE version.

If you are happy to use Windows, there is a wide range of reasonably priced tablets available.

seems so. i definitely will :smiley:
also this is a great price too. +1

Have had loads of tablets (many more expensive) at work and home, and for the price, this is the best value for money one. It browses well, apps run well. No use for gaming, but great for streaming, browsing and household apps. Just needs setting up with the right apps.
Doesn't slow down over time like many do... this is one that I haven't had to wipe and start again. If you know what you are doing and appreciate that it isn't an iPad or top end Samsung, then this will be great for you.

Got my mum the last Lenovo for £99 xmas b4 last and it's ok, what do you want for under £100?

Take it back again and tell them it's faulty. They'll give you a refund.

A family member bought this, my overriding opinion when using it was that screen resolution was dreadful. Personally I'd spend a bit more for full HD.

Bargain. My Lenovo tablet still going strong three years later.

Lenovo Yoga Tab 3 8 Inch 16GB Tablet with case – Black. Only 30quid more... is it better than this?

from few forums, it is better not to update the original firmware the tablet is shipped with.

Well the problem with Apple iPad and iPhone is ....

People pay this price:


But only getting this in reality:

That analagy doesnt really work. iPads and iPhones dont slow down nearly as quickly as Android hardware does.
I have a Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 (not exactly what you'd call a budget tablet) - and it suffers from horrendous slowdowns and frequently seems to run out of memory. Yet it is an octa-core with 3 GB of ram.
My wife's iPad Air 2 has never slowed down and cost the same money and is roughly the same age.
The Air 2 is still supported, the Note Pro has long been forgotten.

Thanks

There appears to be an inherent fault with Lenovo tablets.
The WiFi intermitently keeps disconnecting. I have 3 of the 1.7 GB version and
the Wifi does it on all three. Google it. Its a common problem with no apparent fix.

Totally agree, the Tab 2 A10-70f is a brilliant tablet, full HD, fast, and was on offer recently for£129. The Tab 4 should be out this month.

Hey I got a Linx 1010B for £60 Like new (It was refurbished) was that worth it??

JL has Tab 2's for £129.

Hudl 2 is better

Download dolphin browser.

Terrible quality stay clear.

Hi guys, took mine back as it did not have the ability to cast from the notification panel as most Marshmallow tablets do these days. Lenovo support was poor and could not understand what I was asking them for as my previous model A10-30 had this option which was a model lower than the tab 3. Aside from this the tablet it great but could be better on the resolution. Despite this the tablet is great however did take it back as was not a completely satisfied with customer support and options for firmware upgrade

Don't understand

Got one of these a couple months back, love it. Can browse watch videos and play games on it fine. People complaining obviously expected a £500 tablet for a £100 price tag

After reading through this, sounds like the Nexus 9 I got for £190 about 9 months ago wasn't such a bad deal after all.
Would still like to get the Nexus 7 going again as that is much more practical for my use.
I left it too long before charging (only about a week) and now it just seems to have died. Any suggestions?

Known problem. Plug it in then just press both the power button and the volume up button at the same time. Keep holding until it starts up. But don't leave it uncharged again, it's bad for the battery to leave it discharged.

Just got one and it's ok, screen not crystal but very acceptable for movies and reading books, happy for £99

How did you manage to do that, did you have to root it?

Yeah it's really easy, I rooted it. Took it back to 4.4, then rerooted. Installed custom recovery, then installed the firmware for a10-70L. The one with the 3g sim module, which is the same tablet but with that addition.

Then through custom recovery, rooted again and installed xposed framework to customise the tablet more removing the sim warnings.

Easily taken back to 4.4 or 5.01, depending if you don't like 6.0

All you need a computer, and some time/patience. If you're interested let me know and I can provide you instructions and a repository

Thanks for the reply and the offer of help. I would be interested in the instructions for doing this, whether I've got the time or patience is another matter! Cheers

I mourn the child I never had...Hudl3. The leaked specs were going to create a bangs per buck earthquake. I suspect a forced abortion by unknown enemies.

I did say I wanted better. :laughing:

I've not been a fan of Samsung devices, since the Galaxy S3, and to get a better tablet than my Nexus from Samsung, you're still pushing £250. (And we use Samsung Tabs at work, and I'm still not a fan).

I was so happy with my Nexus 7 2013. To be fair, even after nearly 4 years, I can't think of a tablet at that price-point that even comes close to it. That said, I sold mine a few months ago and joined the growing market of "phablets" :wink:

I decided to leave it just now, and bought myself a new Chromebook to replace the one I gave my daughter when her's failed.

I've still got the Nexus, and an Honor 7 for day to day stuff, and the Chromebook if I need a proper keyboard when I'm away from home.

Sorted - thank you.
It gave up the ghost about a month ago and after googling and trying all sorts I gave up. Tried again today as per your tip and eureka!
If going on holiday it looks as if the only solution is to leave it on charge

I have the 2.5k version of this. Love it.