I saw the BenQ model on offer at the moment for £10 less, although this is a nice alternative if you prefer an IPS panel and aren't too fussed about the extra 1" - Built in speakers too.
I know some will say "You need 1440p minimum on a 27" monitor" Although not everyone has the GPU power to support those higher resolutions, especially for gaming, so it's good to have something that would do the job nicely.
It is a bit of a trade-off based on what you want really and personally I like IPS screens, probably because I'm so used to it. Going back to a TN panel probably wouldn't be a smooth transition. I reckon the VA Panels are a nice middle ground though. You know what you like/want anyway :smiley:
1920 x 1080 Full HD
IPS Display
5ms Response Time
Built in Speakers
Blue Light Filter
Display
Panel Size: Wide Screen 27.0"(68.6cm) 16:9
Panel Backlight / Type: In-Plane Switching
True Resolution: 1920x1080
Full HD 1080P: Yes
Display Surface Non-glare
Pixel Pitch: 0.311mm
Brightness (Max): 250 cd/㎡
Contrast Ratio (Max): 1000:1
ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio (ASCR): 80000000:1
Viewing Angle: 178°(H)/178°(V)
Response Time: 5ms
Display Colours: 16.7M
Flicker free
Audio
Stereo Speakers: 1.5W x2
I/O
VGA
DVI
HDMI
Top comments
Crusty
31 May 174#29
For gaming.. Steam Hardware & Software Survey from April 2017 , 47% still using 1080 as a primary resolution.. 1440 barely makes it into single digits.. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/?platform=pc
Not saying everyone uses steam of course..
Spark
30 May 174#8
Running 1080p is fine. It's still the benchmark standard for PC gaming and 1440p is still an extravagance.
I personally use 1440p and have done for a few years now. For that reason I couldn't really go back to 1080p at this point but if you're not looking to spend a lot of money on hardware than 1080p is perfectly acceptable and arguably far less hassle.
ualla to paulsmith288
30 May 173#5
From the ebuyer site:
Mechanical Design
•Chassis Colours: Black
•Tilt: +20°~-5°
•VESA Wall Mounting: 100x100mm
jukkie to Dziambis
30 May 173#18
You can have HDMI and DP monitors connected at the same time.
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ramiuk1
30 May 17#1
i have this monitor its great,i was getting headaches with my old 2 and i got this one and turned on the blue light,looked a bit off at first but now i m used to it and the headaches have gone.
very pleased with it and its a good price.
throwawaysociety
30 May 17#2
I also have the smaller version of this, and had headaches with other monitors but not with this one!
Zoea
30 May 17#3
IPS is deffo better than TN, I've had 24" 1080p TN, 27" 1440p IPS, and now 24" 1080p TN 144hz, the fav was the second one. This is a great deal. Heat already added. I don't think the extra screen space will be too much of a problem for the resolution.
paulsmith288
30 May 171#4
does it have vesa mount?
ualla to paulsmith288
30 May 173#5
From the ebuyer site:
Mechanical Design
•Chassis Colours: Black
•Tilt: +20°~-5°
•VESA Wall Mounting: 100x100mm
Alfresco to paulsmith288
30 May 17#6
Looks like it on the pictures. I have the smaller one that isn't wall mountable, but it has a nicer stand and B&O speakers. Lovely looking monitors. Heat from me. My only issue with mine is the time it takes to come on/wake up.
r4do
30 May 17#7
Have the MX279H overclocked to 74Hz, very nice IPS panel.
Spark
30 May 174#8
Running 1080p is fine. It's still the benchmark standard for PC gaming and 1440p is still an extravagance.
I personally use 1440p and have done for a few years now. For that reason I couldn't really go back to 1080p at this point but if you're not looking to spend a lot of money on hardware than 1080p is perfectly acceptable and arguably far less hassle.
steve_bezerker to Spark
31 May 17#28
Times have advanced way past 1080p now, I think there is a large base of 1080p gamers still but it is almost certainly not the norm now...we're in 2017! Almost everybody I know games on 1440p now to the point where it's common ground. That's why these monitors are shifting so cheaply because 1080p is becoming more and more redundant.
I think 4K is the only real extravagance, I would consider 1440p gaming to be the norm now, and 1080p to be the equivalent of people who used the large base TV's at the time when LCD TV's were becoming the norm.
anonimousse
30 May 171#9
In direct comparison, the smaller version would be VC239H 24" IPS FHD - which has the VESA mount option, same as the monitor in this deal.
manishman
30 May 17#10
I already have a 27" frameless IPS acer monitor and was looking for an additional IPS monitor. This one just falls right in my ball part with the price. Thanks op
I have 2 displays connected via display port, will I be able to replace and connect this Asus monitor via HDMI?
Or that means other monitor should be connected via HDMI too? Thanks
jukkie to Dziambis
30 May 173#18
You can have HDMI and DP monitors connected at the same time.
galgor
30 May 17#19
very nice find! thank you :smiley:
a3lawy
30 May 17#20
I have the silver VX279H and can't recommend it enough. Fantastic monitor and great price on this.
chp4
30 May 17#21
Shame about the f-ugly stand.
txugo
31 May 17#22
for ps4 and as a second screen. should I get the Asus or this one? ViewSonic VX2776-SMHD
willyzippy89
31 May 17#23
Long shot here
But i purchased a Benq screen few weeks back off amazon its not HD and its out the box now....any one know if i can return it to amazon?? So i can buy this one?
Thanks
ritchiedrama to willyzippy89
31 May 17#24
Yes you can return it. They give you a month but in my experience will accept stuff after that too if you ask nicely.
yav to willyzippy89
31 May 17#43
30 days or more?
Give it a run - you can always say it's not working as intended or something
thomasrykala
31 May 17#25
poor brightness. 350 is minimum for me
thomasrykala
31 May 17#26
poor brightness. 350 is minimum for me
willyzippy89
31 May 17#27
Thanks mate :smile:
Crusty
31 May 174#29
For gaming.. Steam Hardware & Software Survey from April 2017 , 47% still using 1080 as a primary resolution.. 1440 barely makes it into single digits.. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/?platform=pc
Not saying everyone uses steam of course..
Spark
31 May 17#30
1080p may not be what most of your mates are using but it is still the norm and the benchmark, I assure you.
Of the 4 people I play online with most, 2 of us use 1440p, 1 uses 4k and the other uses 1080p but Steam statistics alone prove that we're ab exception rather than the rule.
2k/4k monitors are becoming cheaper because the panels are now cheaper to produce. It has little to do with mainstream adoption rates.
steve_bezerker
31 May 17#31
Steam has a relatively low user-base on AAA games so I wouldn't declare it as accurate. It would be more interesting to see the numbers of players who are using 1080p vs 1440p on esports titles such as Overwatch and Rocket League. I would wager there would be a much larger populace of 1440p by comparison.
steve_bezerker
31 May 17#32
By your own example you just kind of proved my point, albeit a small sample size. 25% 1080, 50% 1440p, 25% 4K.
It may also surprise you to learn that the majority of PC gamers do not use Steam. Steam has something like 7-million active, yet games like League of Legends can accrue upwards of 32 million active players monthly. This is also true of games that run their own launchers like Blizzard game Overwatch which is launched entirely from the Battle.Net client and is the 2nd most popular game in the world (behind league of legends).
These 2 examples are enough to show that steam statistics realistically mean nothing, the 2 most popular PC titles don't even use the application.
You could also couple this with the fact that PC gaming in particular has experienced a 'boom' in sales over the last 2 years thanks to many successful PC titles and the eventual realisation from console owners that they'll never achieve the same level of quality and modifications. The majority of these newcomers are looking for lower budget/entry level gaming quality components, much like the monitor that it is on offer here.
I think denying a movement in price is heavily based in market trend is extremely narrow minded. I wonder if everybody stopped buying iphones how much they would really sell for.
Avenger1324
31 May 17#33
When did playing Overwatch or League of Legends mean you couldn't have Steam installed on the same machine?
Yes it's a valid point to say not all games require or use Steam - I have plenty myself through Battle.net, Uplay, Origin, GOG, DRM free, but I do have Steam installed because as I gamer I have plenty of games from all sorts of developers and publishers. I have Steam installed, therefore it reports back into the hardware survey.
As for your "stats" you aren't even close to comparing like for like. Steam stats right now shows a peak of over 13m concurrent users in the last 48 hours. That's just the peak on at the same time, not counting those that logged off earlier or came on later, or in different time zones. And you compare it to a monthly figure of only 32m whose requirement is to have logged in once in ~30 days, while dismissing the notion that any of them might have Steam installed as well.
It certainly is the norm, the vast majority of people game at 1080p. Not everybody has a 1080/1080ti with a 1440p/144hz monitor. 1080p/144hz is the standard for pro gamers and is much more affordable for the average user.
rev6
31 May 17#36
Huh? Steam is much more accurate than "my friends".
commenter14
31 May 172#37
You need 1440p minimum on a 27" monitor. Even reading text isn't much fun at 1080p 27".
bazzadotdoc to commenter14
31 May 17#52
nope
manincyprus
31 May 17#38
Perfect for me. Narrow bezel, VESA mount. 1080p is enough, my eyes don't go any higher than that! Would fit in nice in my triple monitor setup.
Now, if only Amazon would match the price as I live in Cyprus and eBuyer don't ship here :disappointed:
yav
31 May 17#39
I have an older asus 27"which has stood the etst of time and is superb. But it isnt vesa, so I bought this for less than half price than I paid for my old 27"Asus! Great deal heat added
steve_bezerker
31 May 17#40
Totally missed the point, thanks for the irrelevant comment.
steve_bezerker
31 May 17#41
1080 or 1080Ti is needed for 1440p? Wut?
steve_bezerker
31 May 17#42
I didn't dismiss the information, It just wasn't relevant to the argument.
Spark
31 May 17#44
On that one you are correct. I use a 1070 and regularly get 100fps on most games maxed at 1440p.
Spark
31 May 17#45
The people I was talking about all live in a first world country and all but 1 of them are professionals with a reasonable level of disposable income.
The modern PC market is largely made up of players from Russia, Brazil and China, most of whom cannot afford 1080p, let alone anything higher than that.
I'm afraid the evidence speaks for itself here. 1440p isn't the standard yet and probably won't be for at least another few years.
matt139
31 May 17#46
I should have mentioned 1070 as well but to achieve 100fps+ at ultra settings on triple A titles you need a very good card especially if you want to be future proof. 144hz should be a priority as well in my opinion.
rev6
31 May 17#47
Didn't you say this?
People you know with 1440 monitors is more relevant than Steam survey?
Alrighty then
PhilK
31 May 17#48
Ended up cancelling the monitor I'd bought from Amazon with a better resolution (2560x1440) and bought this instead. Saved £110 - I don't play games much and this'll do fine
joe_shmoe
31 May 171#49
Check steam hardware survey. 1080p is by FAR the most common res.
txugo
31 May 17#50
for ps4 and as a second screen. should I get the Asus or this one? ViewSonic VX2776-SMHD
dvdvicar
31 May 17#51
As some one out of the loop or a few years, would this be an improvement on my DELL U2311H?
No gaming some Photo-editing
Size 23"WS
Colour Depth
16.7 million (6-bit + AFRC)
Aspect Ratio16:9
Colour Gamut
72% NTSC colour gamut, 100% sRGB
Resolution
1920 x 1080
Viewing Angles
178/178
Response Time
8ms G2G
Panel Technology
e-IPS
Contrast Ratio
1000:1 static / 10,000:1 DCR
Interfaces
DVI-D (HDCP), D-sub, DisplayPort
Brightness
300 cd/m2
Colour
Black bezel and base with silver trim
Special Features
Tilt, pivot, rotate and height adjustment. USB 2.0 ports x4
bazzadotdoc
31 May 17#53
The 4 mates mentioned OR ≈ 140 Million in the steam survey?
MadJock46
1 Jun 17#54
Anyone able to tell me the thickness of the side bezel? Possibly looking at something like this for a triple monitor setup and want the screens as close together as possible. Cheers in advance........
joe_shmoe
1 Jun 17#55
Primary display res April 2017.
. . . . . . . . . . . % . . change
1024 x 768 1.43%-0.01%
1280 x 720 0.63%-0.04%
1280 x 768 0.30%0.00%
1280 x 800 1.41%-0.05%
1280 x 1024 3.60%-0.12%
1360 x 768 2.69%-0.04%
1366 x 768 22.97%-0.29%
1440 x 900 4.38%-0.01%
1536 x 864 0.86%-0.06%
1600 x 900 5.69%-0.06%
1680 x 1050 3.35%-0.15%
1920 x 1080 46.17%+0.91%
1920 x 1200 1.13%-0.05%
2560 x 1080 0.55%-0.01%
2560 x 1440 2.00%+0.02%
3440 x 1440 0.25%0.00%
3840 x 2160 0.82%+0.04%
Other 1.77%-0.06%
1366 X 768 is mostly laptops.
I dont know where you get 140 million from,steam only has 125 million active members.
1080p outnumbers 2560 x 1440 by 23 to 1.
Steam numbers ARE gamer focused but I suspect many 1440p monitors were sourced for other reasons and happen to also be used for gaming.
Nobody I know who has a desktop gaming rig has bothered to move up from 1080p yet.
This will change (IF) good quality 27" 1440p IPS panels (particularly with freesync) drop to sub £200,and as old monitors die.
Truth is, nobody is that bothered about larger than 24" for gaming so 1080p is fine.
Use a t.v. for anything needing a bigger screen.
PhilK
1 Jun 17#56
Reason why I sent back the AOC 1440 I bought was the nearly £120 difference in price between the AOC 1440 27" and this. And the AOC was a WAREHOUSE deal on Amazon. NOT brand new.
I didn't think the resolution was worth nearly double the price
The AOC was frameless all round, but the three side frameless on this will do me for half the price :laughing:
PhilK
1 Jun 17#57
.........incidentally, the person I dealt with on the eBuiyer chat was massively helpful
Seems eBuyer have got their act together from how bad I found them 5 years plus ago when I stopped buying from them because of the WAY over 5 day free delivery (but only in my area for some reason)
bazzadotdoc
1 Jun 171#58
"Only", you may have missed the point, anyway it did in Feb 2015, in the last 2 and a bit years the peak numbers have risen by nearly 50%. So I interpolated, extrapolated, then had a guesstimate. Would "A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN FOUR" be easier on your statistical OCD?
joe_shmoe
1 Jun 17#59
Steam's own figures of nearly 1 % increase / month for 1080p, CURRENTLY, verses 0.02 % increase / month for 1440p would indicate you are bull **** way beyond your understanding of the subject;
peak numbers? bull ****.
interpolated.extrapolated and guessed? Bull ****.
I have posted steam's numbers here truthfully.
You on the other hand are just talking 'out of your a noose.
Enjoy your 1440p monitor,I seriously doubt you will get a bunk up without paying similar money for it.
Pkr1
3 Jun 17#60
Hi everyone this is showing at £179.99 for me. Have I missed the boat or is there a discount code? Cheers
meherenow to Pkr1
3 Jun 17#61
Nope, it's expired, usual HUKD though letting it go on and on.
Danglos
5 Jun 17#62
Anyone else's arrive with a European plug adapter and since they don't use kettle leads I might be stuck
cranmerman
6 Jun 17#63
Cut plug off lead, put u.k. 3 pin on. see google if stuck.
Opening post
I know some will say "You need 1440p minimum on a 27" monitor" Although not everyone has the GPU power to support those higher resolutions, especially for gaming, so it's good to have something that would do the job nicely.
It is a bit of a trade-off based on what you want really and personally I like IPS screens, probably because I'm so used to it. Going back to a TN panel probably wouldn't be a smooth transition. I reckon the VA Panels are a nice middle ground though. You know what you like/want anyway :smiley:
Display
Audio- Stereo Speakers: 1.5W x2
I/OTop comments
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/?platform=pc
Not saying everyone uses steam of course..
I personally use 1440p and have done for a few years now. For that reason I couldn't really go back to 1080p at this point but if you're not looking to spend a lot of money on hardware than 1080p is perfectly acceptable and arguably far less hassle.
Mechanical Design
•Chassis Colours: Black
•Tilt: +20°~-5°
•VESA Wall Mounting: 100x100mm
All comments (63)
very pleased with it and its a good price.
Mechanical Design
•Chassis Colours: Black
•Tilt: +20°~-5°
•VESA Wall Mounting: 100x100mm
I personally use 1440p and have done for a few years now. For that reason I couldn't really go back to 1080p at this point but if you're not looking to spend a lot of money on hardware than 1080p is perfectly acceptable and arguably far less hassle.
I think 4K is the only real extravagance, I would consider 1440p gaming to be the norm now, and 1080p to be the equivalent of people who used the large base TV's at the time when LCD TV's were becoming the norm.
I'm looking to upgrade a 75htz 1ms 27" tn 1080 panel for an IPS....will keep looking.
Or that means other monitor should be connected via HDMI too? Thanks
But i purchased a Benq screen few weeks back off amazon its not HD and its out the box now....any one know if i can return it to amazon?? So i can buy this one?
Thanks
Give it a run - you can always say it's not working as intended or something
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/?platform=pc
Not saying everyone uses steam of course..
Of the 4 people I play online with most, 2 of us use 1440p, 1 uses 4k and the other uses 1080p but Steam statistics alone prove that we're ab exception rather than the rule.
2k/4k monitors are becoming cheaper because the panels are now cheaper to produce. It has little to do with mainstream adoption rates.
It may also surprise you to learn that the majority of PC gamers do not use Steam. Steam has something like 7-million active, yet games like League of Legends can accrue upwards of 32 million active players monthly. This is also true of games that run their own launchers like Blizzard game Overwatch which is launched entirely from the Battle.Net client and is the 2nd most popular game in the world (behind league of legends).
These 2 examples are enough to show that steam statistics realistically mean nothing, the 2 most popular PC titles don't even use the application.
You could also couple this with the fact that PC gaming in particular has experienced a 'boom' in sales over the last 2 years thanks to many successful PC titles and the eventual realisation from console owners that they'll never achieve the same level of quality and modifications. The majority of these newcomers are looking for lower budget/entry level gaming quality components, much like the monitor that it is on offer here.
I think denying a movement in price is heavily based in market trend is extremely narrow minded. I wonder if everybody stopped buying iphones how much they would really sell for.
Yes it's a valid point to say not all games require or use Steam - I have plenty myself through Battle.net, Uplay, Origin, GOG, DRM free, but I do have Steam installed because as I gamer I have plenty of games from all sorts of developers and publishers. I have Steam installed, therefore it reports back into the hardware survey.
As for your "stats" you aren't even close to comparing like for like. Steam stats right now shows a peak of over 13m concurrent users in the last 48 hours. That's just the peak on at the same time, not counting those that logged off earlier or came on later, or in different time zones. And you compare it to a monthly figure of only 32m whose requirement is to have logged in once in ~30 days, while dismissing the notion that any of them might have Steam installed as well.
http://prosettings.net/overwatch-best-settings-options-guide/
Now, if only Amazon would match the price as I live in Cyprus and eBuyer don't ship here :disappointed:
The modern PC market is largely made up of players from Russia, Brazil and China, most of whom cannot afford 1080p, let alone anything higher than that.
I'm afraid the evidence speaks for itself here. 1440p isn't the standard yet and probably won't be for at least another few years.
People you know with 1440 monitors is more relevant than Steam survey?
Alrighty then
No gaming some Photo-editing
Size 23"WS
Colour Depth
16.7 million (6-bit + AFRC)
Aspect Ratio16:9
Colour Gamut
72% NTSC colour gamut, 100% sRGB
Resolution
1920 x 1080
Viewing Angles
178/178
Response Time
8ms G2G
Panel Technology
e-IPS
Contrast Ratio
1000:1 static / 10,000:1 DCR
Interfaces
DVI-D (HDCP), D-sub, DisplayPort
Brightness
300 cd/m2
Colour
Black bezel and base with silver trim
Special Features
Tilt, pivot, rotate and height adjustment. USB 2.0 ports x4
. . . . . . . . . . . % . . change
1024 x 768 1.43%-0.01%
1280 x 720 0.63%-0.04%
1280 x 768 0.30%0.00%
1280 x 800 1.41%-0.05%
1280 x 1024 3.60%-0.12%
1360 x 768 2.69%-0.04%
1366 x 768 22.97%-0.29%
1440 x 900 4.38%-0.01%
1536 x 864 0.86%-0.06%
1600 x 900 5.69%-0.06%
1680 x 1050 3.35%-0.15%
1920 x 1080 46.17%+0.91%
1920 x 1200 1.13%-0.05%
2560 x 1080 0.55%-0.01%
2560 x 1440 2.00%+0.02%
3440 x 1440 0.25%0.00%
3840 x 2160 0.82%+0.04%
Other 1.77%-0.06%
1366 X 768 is mostly laptops.
I dont know where you get 140 million from,steam only has 125 million active members.
1080p outnumbers 2560 x 1440 by 23 to 1.
Steam numbers ARE gamer focused but I suspect many 1440p monitors were sourced for other reasons and happen to also be used for gaming.
Nobody I know who has a desktop gaming rig has bothered to move up from 1080p yet.
This will change (IF) good quality 27" 1440p IPS panels (particularly with freesync) drop to sub £200,and as old monitors die.
Truth is, nobody is that bothered about larger than 24" for gaming so 1080p is fine.
Use a t.v. for anything needing a bigger screen.
I didn't think the resolution was worth nearly double the price
The AOC was frameless all round, but the three side frameless on this will do me for half the price :laughing:
Seems eBuyer have got their act together from how bad I found them 5 years plus ago when I stopped buying from them because of the WAY over 5 day free delivery (but only in my area for some reason)
peak numbers? bull ****.
interpolated.extrapolated and guessed? Bull ****.
I have posted steam's numbers here truthfully.
You on the other hand are just talking 'out of your a noose.
Enjoy your 1440p monitor,I seriously doubt you will get a bunk up without paying similar money for it.